Dear /k/omrades, If SHTF would you rather have a red dot sight

Depends entirely on rifle.
If we are going smaller size and caliber, red dot
If we are going bigger, 1-4x
The biggest? 1-9x

Aimpoint Red Dot.

It's very reliable and I'll probably die of infection before the battery dies. Plus, i imagine most engagements will be within 300 meters or so. A red dot is suitable for that.

Every 1-4 I've handled has been heavier than shit and kind of awkward to look through at 1x.

>>32583595

>Every 1-4 I've handled has been heavier than shit and kind of awkward to look through at 1x.
Even the good ones?

>>32583562
why not both? EOTech 552 + EOTech Magnifier.
No you can switch whenever you need

red dots are trash past 50 yards at any situation that isnt shooting static white targets at a range. you need magnification.

Magnification is a no-brainer. Weather or not you can shoot it, being able to see and identify things at range is important.

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>>32583562

Where I live there's hills everywhere and you can't see for shit so I would run my AK with iron sights because ULTIMATE RELIABILITITTY

But I do have a 16inch AR15 with a 3-9x scope that can light up but doesn't need a battery to see the crosshair, I'd run that if I live somewhere flatter or planned on tryna camp on top of a hill or someshit.

I also have a 7.5inch AR pistol with one of those Bushnell mini red dots, I'd use that mother fucker as a truck gun or if I had to do big nig stuff like clear a building.

IMO SHTF plans should involve items that are reliable and don't need a constant supply or consumables (like batteries) to operate, rather than what items would be high-speed-low-drag-zombieslayer in a person vs person situation.

>>32584274
>anything EoTech
It's like you really want to to use just your front sights.

Magnification is incredibly important for actual real world shooting, and a 1-4 or 1-6 at 1x is almost as fast as a dot.

Dots belong on cqb guns and nothing else, anyone who says otherwise never goes outside with their rifle.

1-4x. I don't have 20/20 vision and glasses are not prefect, I want to see who/what I'm shooting with clarity.

>>32583562
Maybe the one that doesn't take batteries that are hard enough to find with society existing.

>>32583810
Not the same poster. I have a vortex 1-6x. I like it, but I would prefer a 1x optic (prism, because I have astigmatism). But that's also because I live in an urban area, and I only have to consider ranges of 20ft if someone breaks into my home.

irons with tritium

>>32583562
ACOG

Scope

It lets me see and shoot at far shit
it doesn't need batteries
could be more rugged than the red dot

Can you guys recommend me a magnified optic with an ACSS reticle, or similar? No ACOG too poor, budget is around $400-$600 if possible.

Anyone here still? Thread dead?

If you live in a heavily forested/urban area where you are unlikely to need to identify things at a long range, a red dot is fine.
If you live innadesert like I do, magnification is nice to pick up things in the scrub at long ranges. I can go out in the desert and see for miles and miles on top of a hill or mountain.

Personally, with tiny, durable red dots like T1s and RMRs around, I get both. I use a RMR/ACOG and I'm going to be picking up a 2.5-10x32 and RMR soon. It's nice to have actual 1x red dot speed with the versatility of magnification.

>>32589071
>Can you guys recommend me a magnified optic with an ACSS reticle, or similar? No ACOG too poor, budget is around $400-$600 if possible.

The vortex strike eagle is good, not the same recital.

>>32592921
Fuck I meant Vortex Viper PST 1-4, the strike eagle is their chink shit scope.

The Viper 1-4 is made in the Philippines.

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I would rather have a leupold 9x40 mm scope with a canted rail that would carry a small reflex sight.