Type 99A2

>>32582496
A shit

>>32582496
thiccccc

>>32582496

so is it just my eyes fucking with me or is the hull angled forward so that the turret sits angled down

>>32582553
Just your eyes

99A2

Now what, OP?

>>32582496
>meme digital camo

>>32582560

Really? from this vid

https://youtu.be/OS8FVsNLxpE?t=704 (time is 11:44)

it looks like the turret does sit at an angle.

>>32582496
all the era makes it look ugly as fuck tbhfam

>>32582645
>dat stabilization

China should do a beer-jug performance

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>>32582545
Tank is thicc even without ERA

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>>32582496
>Type 99A2

ZTZ-99A is its official designation.

China doesnt do any A2, A3 etc designations.

If anything, it would be A, B, C etc.

>>32582575

irrelevant when the smog kicks in

>>32583026
cause it's smothered in NERA

I can't wait to see some monkeys in the sub-sahara blow up these up in Sudanese hands with some RPG's

>>32582496
Turret is not that well designed. It doesn't have the space for effective composites on the sides nor does it have the Russian turret geometry to hide it's weak turret sides

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First leak of Chinese composite armor.

But it is assumed that the graphics show a Type 96 cheek armor module in fact.

>>32583329
Funny since type 96s in Sudan have been blowing up T72s

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>>32583344
Chinese realized that.

Which is why their new light tank follows a Leopard 2A6 route with actual side armor blocks and they are also working on a 4th gen tank.

>>32583381
I thought that picture depicted one of the Chinese light tanks, not a Type-99 upgrade/successor

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>>32583395
It's the light tank. But the direction of its turret design shows that China is moving away from its faux-russian octagonal turret towards a western styled 'long' turret with bustle and all.

>>32583349
upper left is front hull composite makeup. such inefficient use of space.

>>32583381
>>32583395
it's not a type-99 upgrade/successor, china will definitely maintain all their type-99's as well as their 96's and even less modern tanks for the reward units, similar to having t-90's,80's 72's and 64's if you need them, can never have too many tanks with the size their army is on paper.
The New light tank (i've read it written as "mountain tank") is just that, a light tank it's primarily for export as far as i can tell from anywhere and along with the newly designed(lol) turret cheeks has additional applique NERA for three sides of the hull and turret.

>>32583344
desu, they really just need to remove the smoke grenade launchers from each side and attach side armor blocks extending all the way to the bustle.

luckily, the 99A was made with modularity in mind anyway, with bolt-on armor blocks etc. and I wouldnt be surprised if they will upgrade them in the future.

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>>32583496
The composite armor block is very well in line with how the Russians did it, to be honest.

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>>32583009
Requesting that webm of a Leopard holding a beer.

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>>32583510

>>32583539
Why do these newever tanks have that gap between hull and turret on the back? Isn't that like against the very fundamentals of tank building? The whole convex vs circumvex thing, I mean. Also, what are those two barrels they sometimes put on the back of tanks? Extra fuel or something?

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>>32583497
This seems to be a problem with many asian designed tanks.

The Type 99 actually does it slightly better than most others (Arjun in comparisson).

The Japanese Type 90 also has a kinda horrible designed turret with little side armor despite being a "long-turret" with vulnerable bustle.

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>>32583610
*Arjun related.

Japanese Type 90 in the pic above.

>>32583610
>>32583623
they type-90 has a bustle mounted autoloader though so not as much of the crew is at risk that one might think

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>>32583623
Albeit, even western designs arent that great at all. The Abrams and the Leo2 also have only thin side armor due to weight constrains. And from the recent kills by ISIS ATGM scored against Abrams and Leopard 2A4 side turret armor, we can see that they wont be able to stop anti tank munitions at all.

The Russian turret design still seems to be the best there is. Although that shitty carroussel autoloader...

>>32583699
So, the ideal tank turret would be a crewless turreted tank in the shape of a octagon, like the previous Russian tanks, but which is all round-protected by more or less the same thickness of composite armor - which is now possible since it can be made small due to no crew (and it only needs enough space to house the autoloader and breech).

The carroussel autoloader still has to be maintained in the hull, which is bad, but it could now be armored all around as well and/or physically seperated from the crew sitting in their armored bathtub at the front.

Basically an Armata, but with a less shitty turret design.

>>32583699
of the videos floating around theres more of m1's surviving side turret hits and not giving two fucks than there are the few (i can think of maybe four) of the ammo going up. the only hits we've seen on leo's where well.. yeah.
The philosophy of the soviet design being harder to hit in the first place hasn't helped much with how accurate AT munitions are and a quick look at the conflict in Ukraine(or whatever slavs think it is/isnt) and you can see the results of not having more side armour on the turret. western designs though while they have an okayish amount of side armour they could definitely use some ERA on there chuck some tusk on the turret and call it a day.

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>>32583745
so a t-14 but with a slightly armoured turret so you don't get mission killed in 5 seconds?

>>32583837
Yeah, pretty good.

If only there is a solution for that other instant-mission-kill thing being the caroussel autoloader...

>>32583699

Armor width doesn't mean anything.

Modern ATGMs will go through anything that doesn't have ERA, including Russian tanks.

>>32583837
why even having empty space?

just make a gun-breech surrounded by nothing but armor.

armor exist to protect the gun-breech and the upper portion of the autoloader (rammer etc.) from getting mission killed. Nothing more.

I predict turretless armor will make tank-designers return to the half-egg shaped cast turrets of the 50s.

>>32583881
>turretless armor
*crewless turret

no sleep makes me retarded.

>>32583881
spaced armour to defeat shaped charges.
round shapes are terrible for composites. seems like everyones just gonna cage armour the fuck out of everything

>>32583699
Every AFV has thin side armor though.

>>32583699
Western turrets (Abrams, Challenger 2 and Leopard 2) use armor cavities on the turret sides to provide comparable line of sight thickness from the frontal arc.

Russian turrets use geometry to hide the sides of the turret from the frontal arc.

Chinese turrets lack either, which is why you see the tiles added to the sides of newer models.

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>>32583699
Lets fix that so that it is an accurate representation.

>>32583855
The carousel is pretty low in the hull and protected by a metal plate. It's the rest of the ammunition in the T-72 that's the problem

>>32582496
99A2

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>>32583520
I have it.

Its quite simple how it works once you figure it out, in western mbts.