US Military "Kill on Sight" Lists

tl;dr

>Is there any unit in any US branch that is so hated that if we were to get into war members of said unit would be killed immediately and never taken prisoner.

>If not, what's as close as we can get?

>>32580324
>Usually (in most cases) the prisoners are humanely treated and held until a transfer or end of hostilities occurs.
Not in the pacific. US troops had to be bribed with ice cream and 3 days leave, otherwise there was an extremely high probability of a prisoner never making to the rear.

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Maybe Navy seals? There would be made up stories of how they eat and rape litle girls

>>32580324
we killed more Japanese high command without trial than we did SS

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>>32580563
>made up

>>32580324
Ive talked to some vietnam vets, it wasnt unusual to kill a prisoner with no information in front of a prisoner who did have info. i will make a list of the torture techniques they used.
>beating them
>water boarding
>killing friends and other prisoners infront of them.
>torturing other prisoners to an outrageous extent infront of them.
>tying together the legs of pregnant women while they gave birth.
>shove flares inside one or more Orpheus of prisoners while its on fire(essential cooking them inside out).
>cutting off fingers and limbs

there are probably more but those are the ones im aware of.

>>32580656
>tying together the legs of pregnant women while they gave birth.
>shove flares inside one or more Orpheus of prisoners while its on fire(essential cooking them inside out).

Damn that first one is "creative" and that second one is just evil.

>>32580656
>morpheus
>orpheus
go eat some walruses
poridges coming out of your orifices

>>32580679

And they are both completely fake.

>>32580689
>orifices
auto correct got me, eh. what are you gonna do.

>>32580721
I assumed they were, but they'd still be useful.

Maybe less so with the first one.

>>32580721
maybe but thats what a vietnam vet told me and a few others confirmed.

Army ISA

A vet once told me they would ass rape male Japanese POW's before they reached the rear because of "muh honor"

>>32581276
no.

>>32580656
Why are so many Vietnam vets so full of shit? It's like they get a kick out of inventing outlandish insane shit just to scare us civvies.

>>32581456
possibly, the most out spoken tend to stretch the truth. While my grandfather who served 3 tours talks about it like he was on a mission trip. He only talks about teaching children english and his regret of escorting some women through agent orange.

>>32581456

Because half of them aren't real.

Vietnam is the most popular war to steal valor in when you're in that age group.

>>32581456
Why do so many couch kommandos assume everyone is a gentleman in war. The eastern front proved civility was but thin veneer. What makes everyone think we are any different today. I have no doubt fucked up shit happens in war like vietnam. The thought that we are better than that is ludicrous.

>>32580656
I spoke to a Vietnam veteran, he was actually a vietnamese man who was a marine himself. Crusty old fucker.

He told me when they captured a VC, they would tie him to a tree, rough him up a bit so he a bunch of open cuts, and then take fruit juice and pour it all over the bastard. This being the jungle of vietnam, seems like a pretty fucked up way to get rid of someone.

Are you that fucking kid who keeps trying to make comparisons to Vikings

>>32581768

Eh? No, I just noticed in a lot of WW2 documentaries and films any time they catch a Waffen SS officer or certain other units they always kill him on the spot while regular Wermacht were generally taken prisoner.

So I wondered if any unit in America could be said to have a similar reputation (in the enemy's eyes, even if it's totally bullshit reasoning).

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>>32581742
indeed, the bugs would make it a horrible death.

>>32581456
keep in minds they are the same guys who guys who carried around skulls and were forced to bring back dead bodies or body parts after a mission to prove they did something. The same fellas who crawled into the abyss of the tunnels.

That before we get into the fact a Vietcong looked just like a civilian and the children had grenades hidden on them.

>>32581882
There were some Canadian units who started doing that, during the fight through the Lowlands, after they found some Canadians who had been taken prisoner and executed by an SS Battalion.

The SS officer who ordered the executions served like 5 years of a life sentence before the US had him sprung to help the German army prepare for fighting the Soviets.

So yeah, lots of injustice all around in war.

>>32581882
most of modern enemies are savages, they either kill us on site or think that they can get a ransom so they kid nap us.

Japs didnt like medics, they saw it as dishonorable so they were often killed on site.

More often than not in formal armies soldiers will not kill anyone on site unless they are far from the reach of the brass.

Fun fact, japanese can no longer kill prisoners even in self defense.

I always hear that pilots would get the short end of the stick in capture. Infantry don't like being bombed too much it turns out.

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>>32582090
Theres a story about a wild weasel pilot going down in nam and the villagers coming after him. He was talking on the radio to his wingman until he was beaten to death. Turns out civvies don't like being bombed either. They were probably vc though.

>>32582252
They were all VC, anon.

>>32580324
individual fighters like snipers and combat pilots (and historically flamethrower operators) are the ones more likely to suffer summary execution due to enemy combatants venting their anger and frustration at them.

>>32582323
also try not to get caught with a shotgun in a German trench

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>>32581951
Axis propaganda vs Allied propaganda

>>32581456
Because they are boomers. It's the most degenerate generation of all time. The Aids crisis is the only reason they didn't manage to completely flush western civilization down the toilet.

Actual Vietnam vets who were diligent soldiers and saw combat are fine, but the vast majority were drug addicted fuckups even before they came back and found that all their peers hated them for west they did.

Just like holohoax survivors, they've convinced themselves that their lies were true (they were all work camps, the camp starvation happened because when Allied air attacks destroyed Germany's ability to move supplies around, the camps stopped receiving enough food, and the camp guards prioritized their own well-being, the records of mass execution and cremation are Soviet propaganda).

>>32582762

Careful man you'll trigger one of the heebs who jerks off to Galils here.

>>32582793
Hey, I'll even go so far as to say that it was genocide.

But when German front line combat units are taking casualties from starvation, it's not a shock or an necessarily an intentional policy when people in remote prison camps are starving too.

Food is a military resource, when you destroy all your enemy's military resources, people are going to starve. It's just facts.

>>32581456
The only war story from a 'Nam vet that sounded plausible was about his buddy who was a LRRP. He went to a village to clear out the VC, but he had to wait until it stopped raining. He fell asleep in his poncho, and when he woke up he was covered with snakes. He panicked, threw off his poncho, and shot it a few times, waking up the whole fucking village. He made it out with minor injuries.

>>32582090
pilots usually are taken good care of, they have lots of information
>also its technically illegal to shoot at a pilot parachuting
>yet is legal to shoot paratroopers

>>32582762
>vast majority were drug addicted fuckups
Proofs or fuck off. Hollywood memes don't count as proof.

>>32582956
Look at period photos, you can see blunts in almost every FOB photo.

>>32582762
>but the vast majority were drug addicted fuckups even before they came back
>vast majority

Youngster, the vast majority who came back just did their thing and blended in. I was a few years too young to go but New Jersey and New York were full of Nam vets doing normal American suburban living. Don't get your ideas from Hollywood. I enlisted in 1981 (Saigon fell in 1975) and worked with many of those Viet Nam vets who stayed the course through the Reagan buildup (which was a beautiful thing to experience in contrast to the Hollow Force era) and Desert Storm. They were greatly responsible for unfucking the US military in the 1980s.

That's not to say shit didn't get fucked up! Enjoy this gem:

https://msuweb.montclair.edu/~furrg/Vietnam/heinl.html

Most Nam vets AND most anti-war activists have highly selective memories. Here's a resource you won't see anywhere else. The movie isn't very good but the library is totally worth reading.

http://www.sirnosir.com/site_sections/library.html

Anyone nostalgic for conscription won't be after a reminder of what a fucking disaster it was.

>>32582932
>>yet is legal to shoot paratroopers

Paratroops are attacking. Pilot is disabled without his aircraft hence considered not a threat. Of course officers wrote the rules...

>>32583006
No different than drinking beer, and considering how many G.I.s alcoholism kills weed is much safer. Smoking was common until much later years. The Air Force didn't tighten up until around 1980. (OSI cleaned out so many rather surprised SPs at my base they had to bring replacements from Bentwaters!)

Weed isn't heroin nor is it addictive, pussy snivelling otherwise may be disregarded. There was a considerable smack problem but "vast majority" is inaccurate.

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>>32582762

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>>32582762
Don't mind the JIDF agent; he's just doing his part in divide and conquering the new and the old.

>>32580346
thank you for the tl;dr

>>32580324
Does anyone have the original pic?

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>>32583782
Ya, here you go

>>32583808
>beady

>>32582762
Go back to /pol/ fuckhead.

>>32585012
>t. butthurt boomer

>>32582252
>civvies being bombed
>wild weasel

>>32585364
It's not actually that impossible.

Consider that aside from the side-effects that Agent Orange caused regarding birth defects and shit, there was also the primary effect, killing plants.

You didn't have to be living on the Ho Chi Mihn trail for that shit to get dumped on you, and if you were a village of farmers looking at starvation because someone dumped chemicals on all your crops, you're going to take it out on the first unlucky bastard who falls out of the sky.

Combat Controllers, para rescue, JTAC forward air control types, special forces, those with antennas coming out of backpacks, and terps get killed by the enemy. Bounty is also usually higher.

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>>32580656
>Vietnam "vets"
This should be required fucking reading. soldiers in Vietnam were better behaved than in WWII. They were better disciplined, adhered to stricter rules of engagement, treated locals better, and were less likely to kill prisoners.

PS: Agent Orange saved lives.

>>32585032
lol k.

>>32585364

Jet is a jet.

>>32581456
Some dumb Vet caimed he ripped out a jerrys throat with his teeth.
Not sure why he told us this during my SAT test.

>>32581882
>Eh? No, I just noticed in a lot of WW2 documentaries and films any time they catch a Waffen SS officer or certain other units they always kill him on the spot while regular Wermacht were generally taken prisoner.
That only started after the Malmedy Massacre.

>>32582396
Disproved.

>>32585610
why terps?

>>32583286
>Paratroopers.
Equivalent of a guy disembarking a APC.
>Pilot.
Possibly wounded, lightly armed guy. If he doesn't surrender shoot him.

>>32582419
to be fair that is a Korean and they are pretty crazy towards other gooks

>>32580721
Read "im auge des jägers" by sep allerberger, one of the most successfull german snipers in ww2. This is everything but Made up, mate...

>>32586483
sends a message to not aid the opposition to the populace me thinks

>>32580324
from what i hear most of the german military was tourtored after the war what usa did was horrible

apparently most interigating officers and soilders that were in charge of looking after the soilders were all jews

they would rape women infront of the german soilders and do other fucked up shit

usa army really is the bad guy durring ww2

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>>32587044
shut up you silly natzi sympathizer

Snipers usually get fucked if captured.

>>32583269

>conscription

Most American troops in Vietnam were volunteers.

And yet they still snuck off, did drugs, and fragged NCOs and officers.

Honestly I think most boomers were pieces of shit. My grandfather who has shrapnel in his upper back from nam speaks very poorly of those he served with, and holds nothing but contempt for most of the boomers.

>>32585758

They also threw grenades at "overzealous" NCOs and officers.

>>32586497
>Possibly wounded, lightly armed guy.
inbound enemy presumably with a weapon 'fire'.
>>32587096
occasionally literally as well as metaphorically

>>32580559
nips didnt allow themselves to get taken prisoner. death before dishonor.

>>32580324
I believe pilots are often singled out for ransom and torture, because US pilots are seen as cowardly killers, and often fighting much further afield than US ground forces where they are seen as imperialist oppressors
there is probably a perception that they are more likely to have pertinent intel, are more valued by the US than infantry; and many foreign fighters feel personally victimized by the US air-force

I imagine SF would all be shot on sight, because they are the designated US martyrs and would be killed by their own country rather than being left as POWs; if not hostile forces would be afraid of a SF recovery team.
because SF are often directing air strikes
the fear of air strikes is hard to describe to non nato citizens

it would be country dependent as well, in some countries certain units had a reputation for disregarding civilian casualties, or simply for general crimes against the populous
couldn't give any insight into which though

taking prisoners is not a luxury many small forces have, either because they need to be highly mobile, have no facilities for holding prisoners, even because they have no spare food and water
for the US a prisoner's intel is worth more than the life of an enemy who is in all likelihood some local criminal or millitia
for other countries a US soldier is worth more in cash than their entire unit, and the death of one US troop is a significant enough victory not to jeopardize

>>32587650
Pilots are generally officers and thus are taken care of.

>>32587675
when was the last time a US pilot was captured?
probably the 60's in a cold war

if a US pilot went down over china, russia they would probably be simply interrogated and ransomed back for political reasons; because neither side wants an escalation in the conflict

but if they went down over an area where the US was fighting non-state forces (ISIS), or where the hostile country wasn't afraid of US retaliation (n-korea) have no doubt that they would be seriously messed up, and whatever was left of them ransomed back

russia is in the same possition, anyone the russians are not bombing the shit out of would probably return a pilot out of fear/some trade
but any force the russians would not or could not give concessions to would surely be tortured for intel and propagandize value

non-state actors need graphic holstiliy and injustice to maintain public support in their region
if ISIS tortures a pilot they win
if the US tortures ISIS personnel ISIS breaks even, they suffer a moral blow; yet are given the fuel for ongoing hostility

this is all fairly machpol though

>>32580656

Had Christmas dinner with my grandfather's youngest brother. Was a farmer in Rhodesia during the bush war.

Told me a favorite method to get captured terrorists to talk was to stuff a snake down the pants.

Wouldn't that count as a war crime?

>>32587740
>when was the last time a US pilot was captured?
>probably the 60's in a cold war
During wartime, yes.

Though the most recent one I can think of was April 2001, when that spy plane crashed in China.

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>>32587044

>>32580346
Pretty much every pilot and SOF guy had a bounty on their head from 1992 onward. IIRC the bounty for someone from 160th SOAR was close to a million USD.

So yeah.

>>32581534
No, the eastern front proved slavs are subhuman filth.

>>32585787
>>32585493
It is that impossible with a Wild Weasel, which only carried anti-radiation missiles and usually 1 Sparrow or (later) a Sidewinder. They DID NOT carry bombs, Agent Orange, or anything else that would endanger a "civilian" unless that "civilian" was operating a SAM or AA battery.

>>32581073

>Implying CENTRA SPIKE can be captured alive
They'd just suckstart their pistols or pop a ricing capsule or something.

>>32593233
The point is that civilians don't know what a wild weasel is.

>>32593373
And the counter-point is that they would thus not specifically target a Wild Weasel pilot, and the fact that they're a Wild Weasel pilot is totally irrelevant to the fact that the NVA had rather significant bounties on ANY captured coalition servicemember but paid extra for people from units like MACV-SOG and the DIA.