Single action only or DA/SA carry?

>>32570467
Carrying a single action revolver would be pretty bad.

You really should try to carry something that's striker fired. DA/SA handguns aren't bad but they require a lot of training to get down.

Buy a good holster that you are comfortable drawing and reholstering on... The gun doesn't matter as much, but when I carried a DA/SA I figured the first shot would probably be a throw away and to focus on the followup shots or learn to cock the hammer as I drew...
>those shoes
disgusting

>>32570487
I don't think I'd feel comfortable with striker fired. All of the pistols I've ever shot (not alot admittedly) have been SA only (1911) or DA/SA.

Striker fired just doesn't inspire confidence for me. It seems too much like carrying single action with no safety.

>>32570502
Fuck, never noticed the shoes. I did wanna rail her, but now... them clogs 'gotta go first.

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>>32570506
Striker fired handguns are extremely safe. You just need to use a proper holster as is the case with handgun.

Really the only time a striker fired handgun goes off accidentally is because people draw with with their finger on the trigger.

I've carried a revolver (ruger lcr 9mm), da/sa (p226) and a striker fired (glock 19) for my ccw and unless you have thousands of dollars and hundreds of hours EXTRA to spend training I very strongly recommend striker fired

>>32570579
with any handgun*

also don't be like >>32570502

you're responsible for every bullet you send down range, one stray and you could be on the hook

>>32570579
Or if clothes get in it on the re holster or any number of things. I dunno maybe I'm old school but having a DA heavy weight trigger just feels safer than having a 6-7 pound striker fired gun to me. Maybe it's my lack of experience but that's just how I feel.

Also you can thumb the hammer on the re holster for an extra bit of safety.

>>32570597
If you're dead set on carrying da/sa you can, but they really aren't any safer than a striker fired gun. Pretty much anything you could do to set off a glock (for example) will also set off any da/sa gun.

It might not be possible but if you can try carry both and doing drills with both and see what you do better with

>>32570644
I don't own any striker fired firearms I was looking into possibly getting a Glock but I believe I'll be purchasing an AR 15 first.

I just feel like where I am now given a striker fired carry gun id almost want to make the mistake of carrying it condition 3 and I know that's not good.

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>>32570673
If it makes you feel better a huge number of police departments carry Glocks and accidents are almost unheard of. Same with 3 gun which is 100% striker fired pistols. A huge number of people use those guns during vigorous exercise without failure.

If you have a local range make some chitchat with the people there. Someone will almost certainly let you try out their glock or p320 or w/e.

Any gun is better than no gun, so if you really don't feel comfortable with a stikerooni carry whatever you can. Just make sure that you know where that first bullet is going when you have a second to pull and fire

you could also get pic related

>>32570467
Ushijima is all kinds of hot.

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>>32570506

>>32570726
I heard that the d.c. police department has had 160 ad cases since the adoption of their Glock and that's a record. Maybe that's not a whole lot considering the number of guys but still.

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>>32570757

>>32570523
>>32570738
I have it on good authority that she's awful looking in person.

I'd still hit it though.

>>32570768
You must be talking about this:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/local/longterm/dcpolice/deadlyforce/police4page1.htm

But I can't see any other department reporting similar stories so I think it may be a training issue or something else on the side of D.C. police

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>>32570866

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>>32570888

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>>32570918

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>>32570946

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>>32570964
I spent $350 on mine boy.

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>>32570974

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>>32571008
Is the 1911 a piece of "Americana" by now?

I think yes.

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>>32571125

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>>32571131
H.I.G.H. T.E.C.H.

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>>32571165

What is with all this 1911 shitposting I don't even want to carry a 1911.

>>32570768
Glocks and their clones are the most unforgiving handguns when it comes to handling/user errors. Some might argue that this is irrelevant as long as you follow the four rules and have good firearms handling practices, but the stresses of shooting outside of a range environment say otherwise.

Consider that the problem with Glocks/Glock clones and accidental shootings was serious enough that Glock had to change the 5 lb stanadard trigger to an 8 -12+ lb one for major police departments, most notably the NYPD.

The only reason accidental police shootings, of which there are many, don't get more widespread coverage is that it is incredibly difficult to prosecute the police without overwhelming evidence of wrongdoing.

I'll leave you with some links to consider:

http://weaponsman.com/?p=16611

http://www.latimes.com/local/california/la-me-sheriff-guns-20150614-story.html

http://www.cbs46.com/story/27742162/peachtree-city-chief-of-police-on-administrative-leave-after-wife-shot

>>32571229
Yeah see that's what makes me want a DA I mean people can harp on muh training as much as they want but when shit goes down you never know.

>>32571255
If that's what you're interested in, then look for a DA/SA automatic or DA revolver that interests you. If you intend on using it for carry, be sure not to get one that's too big.

Take a look at the HK P30 or a Smith and Wesson J-frame.

>>32570467
>SA revolver
The only SA only revolvers out there are super unsafe b/c they lack a hammer safety. That said, it's pretty much impossible to ND a DA revolver in a holster since the trigger needs to be pulled to fire. And the pull on a DA revolver is typically 10+ pounds with a long traverse.

Also, your already on a list. I checked.

>>32571435
God dammit I knew being a pedophile was a bad move

Strongly considering da/SA revolver

>>32571435
Ruger SA revolvers all have transfer bars. It's safe to carry them loaded to capacity. That being said, I would not recommend any of them as a carry gun unless you live in Alaska and plan on OCing them to ward off bears.

>>32571575
A Smith and Wesson 442/642 is ~$330. A used Model 36 is ~$400 +/- $50. A Ruger SP101 is ~$530 +/-$50.

All of them are great guns that can do 2 inch groups at 15 yards in the hands of an average shooter with some practice.

>>32570726
Idiot question - how the fuck do bufferless AR builds even work?

>>32570974
Holy shit that gun is ugly af.

>>32571660
that's a good question

sa revolvers are retarded to carry unless you spent your entire life shooting them and are too stubborn to learn anything else

>>32571657
I really like the sp101 but it's rather expensive I do think I want an exposed hammer unless that's too problematic. I would like a gun that's not a pain in the ass to shoot.

>>32571894
Here are some good options if you want a nice revolver with an exposed hammer that's cheaper than the SP101:

S&W Model 36 (used)
S&W 437/637
S&W 438/638
S&W 360J <- my pick

The 360J has a scandium alloy frame and comes with a much better default grip. It also has a pinned front sight rather than a fixed one, which means that you can put night sights on it if you want. Last I checked, they can be had for slightly under $400 if you look around and are a steal at that price.

>>32570830
>taking /cgl/ and hamplanets seriously
I'm sure as far as pretty girls go she's very average-looking without the makeup and cameras (as in you would likely not recognize her among other cute Japanese girls), but "awful looking" is unlikely.

>>32570502
>has never shown nipples
>no full frontal nudes
>no unblurred nudes
Those are the real crimes here.

>>32571660
shorter spring, ass of bolt carrier is chopped, or the return spring is put around the gas piston over the barrel and the bolt carrier is chopped

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>>32572014
Not /cgl/, a personal friend of mine who's a somewhat well-known Japanese cosplayer (he's been on Japan's World Cosplay Summit team a couple of times) and has seen/met her at cons numerous times. He's a dude, too, so it's not hambeast jealousy or anything.

He came to the US and stayed with me for a few weeks a couple of years ago and I happened to mention her. His reaction was "eww she looks like an ugly old lady."

Pic related is the dude in question, he's a westaboo and going to the range was the the top of his list when he came to the US.

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>>32570579
>you need thousands of dollars and hundreds of traoning hours to learn how to flip off a safety as you draw.
>my face when

>>32571984
Would a 3 inch barrel be hard to conceal? I like the looks better

>>32572435
Depends how you want to carry it. If you were thinking about pocket carry, which is a good choice for a snubnose, a 3 inch barrel is going to be too long. If you planned on doing IWB though, it's not an issue.

>>32573476
Is the 360j pocket carry capable? That's interesting if so. I don't like the snub but damn that's a practice little gun if it's that small.

I'm 5'9" 155 lbs

>>32570487
>>32570506
Walther P99AS: DA/SA striker-fired, sexy ergonomics, glorious trigger, kraut-engineered.

>>32570579

> Striker fired
> Safe

Pick one

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fn6GFSwTEw

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>>32573552
>taurus

>>32573536
Smith and Wesson J-frames like the Model 36, 642, the 360J, or any of other countless variations that exist were the most popular pocket guns for decades before the recent pocket auto boom. Even now, they're still a good choice since the reliability of most pocket autos is not at the level of their larger counterparts and you lose practically nothing in capacity.

As far as how they conceal, I am 5'10 and 140 lbs and have been pocket carrying a J-frame daily for around half a year now. I am able to do so in slacks, work jeans, sweat pants, cargo shorts, or anything short of tightly cut fashion jeans without printing. Even someone staring at my crotch area intently would not receive any hints that what's sitting in my right pocket is a gun and not a wallet or a smartphone covered in a padded case.

The biggest obstacle to pocket carry is not the cylinder, as you might expect, but the grip length. A grip that's too long will stick out of the pocket. This is something that's easily remedied though. J-frame grips are incredibly plentiful, very cheap, and uniformly fit all models with the same grip shape (ie round butt/square butt). Alternatively, just appendix carry.

>>32573818
>Appendix carry

Noty

Really thinking about that as an option now though

>>32573874
Get some thunderwear. Strap it off center, apendix carry.

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>>32570467

DA/SA has two distinct advantages. One of them is being able to do what is called the press out which is when you prep the trigger when your sights are just coming into your peripheral vision, giving you a quicker first shot compared to a SA or striker. Another is being able to stop as you're pulling that double action shot if you decide that whatever you're going to shoot at is no longer a target that needs to be shot.

There's loads of people who don't understand DA/SA and never really try it then dismiss it as something needlessly difficult/complex when it isn't at all.

Some good links to DA/SA mastery

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FsoX26OhDCY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZplH6zreQI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nod5qLlSGUM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bU4v5i5c42k

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7YdjrvB718

But if you aren't willing to put the practice into learning the double action trigger but still want the safety of drawing/reholstering, look into a Glock with a "Gadget" striker control device. It allows you to thumb the backplate of your Glock as if it was a DA/SA gun like a Sig or Beretta giving you tacticle feedback on whether or not your trigger is being inadvertently pulled. It is a completely passive safety that does not interfere with the function of the firearm if it does so happen to break. Test models have exceeded a combined total of ~300,000 rounds with no breakages of any kind.

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/gadget-a-striker-control-device

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4t69VcNx-58

>>32570467
Striker is fine.

I carry DA/SA with the hammer down, round chambered, manual safety off.

When I carried striker, I carried round chambered, manual safety off.

Get a good holster and you're fine. I recommend Aliengear, but go with whatever floats your boat.


Don't carry with the safety on.

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>>32570467
what the FUCK is up with those boots?

>>32574418
Striker may be fine but it seems to me undeniable that DA is safer