QTDDTOT

>>32557726
Keep doing what you're doing. If you're worried about it then shoot some wd-40 down the tube and around the fiddly bits, let it drip dry then use a real lubrication like you normally would.

>>32557726
Just do what you're usually doing. The only chrome lined part of the 104FR to my knowledge is the barrel. I have an SGL31 and I spray everything down with boiling water mixed with some ballistol, dry then clean as normal.

And technically, you don't have to clean the gas tube as it doesn't really affect the function of the gun if it is rusted, but you should anyways because it's a $1,000 gun.

>>32557726

Hot, soapy water down the gas tube and barrel along with a cleaning around the bolt, particularly the bolt face. That's all you need.

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How do you find gay/bi/'straight' men who like femboys of a /k/ persuasion?
A-Asking for a friend.

>>32557892
Soap is unnecessary. All you need is the water to wash the salts off. The water doesn't even really NEED to be hot, that just helps it dry quicker.

>>32557844
Gas block is chromed too

>>32557919
go to a mental institution to help with your mental illness, faggot.

Anybody heard what kind of gun the airport shooter used?

>>32558196
I'm not mentally ill. i just like being fucked while wearing girls' clothing, that's all.
It's not like there are any institutions that would even try to help anyways. They'd probably just tell me I'm a tranny and that I should pay some kike "doctor" to mangle my cock.

>>32557919
I'm pretty sure half of the people on this board, myself included, like femboys

>>32558310
Oh. I thought that was mostly memes.

/k/ meetups it is.

>>32557726
Cleaning semi-autos after using corrosive is such a bitch. Just pay a couple cents more and buy wolf.

>>32557726
learn to take the gas tube off.

pour hot soapy water through it

dry interior of gas tube with an old sock attached to a cleaning rod

>>32557726
Where the fuck did you find 7n6? And how much was it?

>>32557726
I use ballistol and water. Try it.

>>32558490
Try ammoseek

>>32558518
Shit, where did all that come from? A little while ago the only place that had any was UN Ammo and that guy is a total tool.

>>32557919

idk but find one soon, the sooner you do the sooner you'll die of AIDS you deranged subhuman faggot.

>>32558582
Why are you so mad?
Besides, I'm white and only like other whites so my chances are lower than coal burning women.

>>32557726
Run Hoppes #9 down the barrel. Stop using hot water. Hoppes will clean all the shit out just fine and properly lube everything at the same time.

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>>32558612
I actually looked it up and African Americans are barely above gays. If you factor out gay blacks I'm sure you "people" are worse overall.

I live in kommiefornia and want a full size pistol maybe with rmr cutouts. I think my only options with this is to build a gucci glock or get an existing slide for a pistol machined. The main reason is my eye focus is pretty bad so red dots and reflex sights really help. Thoughts?

Anyone have a /k/ guide to body armor?

What's some good cheap armor for emergencies?

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Anyone here ever done a parts kit build? How'd it go? Is it worth it? I am thinking of doing a bm59 build but not sure if it is worth the effort.

>>32559436
Armor
>Good
>Cheap

CHOOSE

>>32558310
I second that.

>>32559436

highcom body armor

google it

>>32561777
Trips of truth

I second this. I bought the wrong size (i'm a fatass) and had them sent back. Within 2 days of shipping I had my new plates at my door.

I did a LOT of research on the right plates before buying, highcom is the top tier.

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/k/ did I fuck up?
I got an M48A yugo Mauser.

I got a little deal and picked up some 8x57mm JS Mauser ammo, but I can't get the bolt to lock down. Did I buy the wrong ammo?

What's the longest realistic engagement distance of the proverbial one man army?
I always see niggas talking about how their .338 LM bolt gun will let them take out nasty customers from ~1600 yards if SHTF but when the fuck are you actually going to 1) have that kind of shot and 2) even know someone is way the hell out there?

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What would cause my pistols slide to not lock back when I empty the mag? I keep my guns oiled and tried using higher grain rounds but I still get this issue.

>>32562188
9mm btw

>>32562007
After I typed up all the stuff below, I googled romanian 8mm mauser and found link below. Read that link before you read all the crap below that I typed.

http://www.waltherforums.com/forum/free-range-time/36658-warning-romanian-mauser-8mm-ammo.html

8x57IS and 8x57JS are interchangeable, and that's what your gun is supposed to take.
it's possible there could be a problem with headspace.
OR there could be an obstruction in the chamber, like dirt or crud, keeping the round from going all the way in.
OR there could be a problem with that ammo.

If it were my gun the first thing I'd do is clean the fuck out of the chamber and try again to get a round to chamber. Don't force it, like retard strength. If it doesn't close with normal strength, step back and try something else.

Next I would buy a different ammo and try to close the bolt on it.

If that didn't work I would take the rifle to a gunsmith and ask him to check the headspace.

>>32562188
>>32562209

Weak magazine spring maybe...not pushing the follower up far enough to engage the hold open. What make and model is the gun? Is it new, used, milsurp? Have you tried other mags? Same result?

>>32557919
just leave a throwaway bby ;)

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>>32562240
Happens on my sig p226, German made and kept very clean.
My friend also just got a new VP9 and he got the same issue after a few mags down range.

I have not tried new mags because It did not think that would be an issue.

>>32557919
got kik? I want a cute bf who likes guns

I have a question about German WWII -military acceptance markings aka. "Waffenamt stamps", I know that weapons issued to Wehrmacht (Heer, Kriegsmarine and Luftwaffe) were marked with the Nazi eagle with a letter below it, what about weapons that were never property of Reichswehr or Wehrmacht & went straight from factory to the SS? Also could a Waffen-SS unit formed in summer 1941 & sent to the front in 1942 even have had weapons manufactured for the SS rather than for the Wehrmacht & later have been transfered to SS?

>>32562225
Fuck, I'm looking at the Sportsmans guide reviews for it and they're all saying the same. The ammo just isn't fucking sized right.

Bore's clean, chamber's clean, and I'm fucked.

I guess that's what I get for thinking I was getting a deal.

>>32562164
Maybe 1600 yards if you had open space and were actively looking for people. Wyoming comes to mind.

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Looking for recommendations for an AR pistol IE Truck Gun.
Must be WA legal.

>>32562485
How much of that ammo did you buy? At least you know the gun is most likely OK, and that's the important part.

>>32562498
>>32562164
The Flyover states and any type of Farm land would be ideal for this distance especially in the off season when its just barren ground.

>>32562516
I mean, it was only 60rds at $25 but I am not a rich man and I was hoping to actually get to shoot this damned thing.

>>32557726
Spray glass cleaner down the bore

>>32558506
Gun specific detergents, solvents, and lubricants are all bullshit or at least just overpriced versions of their generic counterpart.

SP2022 or the Rex Zero?

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>>32562532
>le glass cleaner maymay

>>32557726
Can I leave magazines loaded? And should I load 2 rounds less from the full magazine capacity or can I load them all the way.

>>32558490
Got 1080 rounds from Sarge's surplus for $250, roughly 23 cents a round.

>>32562563
Yes you can leave them load, no don't load them under capacity unless they suck shit and malfunction when fully loaded.

>>32562498
>>32562527
Yeah but why would you be there in a crisis situation?

>>32562563
The only thing that causes the magazine spring to 'decompress' is loading and unloading them constantly.

>>32562571
>1080 rounds from Sarge's surplus for $250

Good lord the last time I bought any 7n6 it was a full case (2160) for about $20 more than that.
Also you can get non corrosive for 22 cents per round. Why pay more for corrosive ammo?

>>32562007
That Romanian ammo is shit man, it's so out of spec it's not even funny.
Try each individual round though. I bought about a hundred rounds when I first got my Gewehr 98 and about 30 actually did work. It seems each individual round is made with different sizes.

>>32562607
Currently am, first 40 ain't shit

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>>32562572
mfw I keep a shittonn of mags loaded at all times...

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>>32562591
Perhaps because you can shoot someone from 1600 yards away from there?

Sitting at home while SHTF sure beats running around in the woods with all the autists and bears and skinwalkers oh my.

>>32562607
Not him, but I was under the impression that only the Romanian surplus made in the '70s was the shit stuff.

>>32562624
It's not surplus, it's commercial ammo, just Romanian made. Look at that green box in his picture. I've also seen it with an American flag-print box.

>>32557726
I personally do not use any water on my weapons less chance of them coming down with rust. Use CLP and don't cheap out.

>>32562603
I'm guessing that was several years ago? Kinda like how people keep insisting Mosins are cheap.
And it was because I wanted 7n6, the 22 cents/round stuff was only 750 rounds per pack and I didn't feel like buying more than one shipment yet.

>>32562660
>less chance of rust if I use water
>after shooting corrosive ammo

'Scuse me while I enjoy my free anti-corrosion cleaner because I'm not too retarded to dry my gun out after running water through it

>>32562616
shit ton is an actual unit of measurement as opposed to a shit load which isn't. Well done, anon.

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>>32557726
Alright OP, first of all there is a lot of disinformation on the subject involving "neutralizing" a corrosive salt. It's pure bullshit, the only reason they suggest you mix windex with water is because the Windex evaporates fast and water alone causes it to rust even more.

The fact is the only action you should be taking to avoid corrosion is whiping the corrosive residue out of the barrel, and a bore-snake works wonderfully for that.

On the bore snake you should use something that evaporates quickly like Hoppes #9, the more it stinks the faster it's evaporating.

Do not put water onto your rifle to clean out corrosive residue, ever.

My after-shoot cleaning regimen entails running a Hoppes soaked bore snake through the bore at least 5 times. It works.

>>32558200
handgun of some sort
magdumped 3-4 times then lied down and surrendered according to what I saw

>>32557919
are you in OR/WA? If so, like bears? If so, I would meet.

God fucking damn it, not a single one chambered.

>>32557726
POURING WATER ON A RIFLE WITH CORROSIVE RESIDUE ON IT IS NOT THE RIGHT WAY TO CLEAN IT.

>>32562687
>>32562719
Hot water has always worked for me. As long as you dry it out and oil it afterwards there's zero issues.

>>32562704
Damn dude, that sucks. Maybe try to sell it on Gunbroker or something, maybe some LGS or pawn shop will take it.
I recommend Turk surplus. It's the next-cheapest thing you're gonna find. Maybe PPU if you're lucky.

>>32562750
it is
1. more work
2. you have to dry every part you got wet or it WILL rust
3. will still need something to jam down the bore

Why not just use a fucking Hoppes #9 coated bore snake and be done with it?

Well, the ammo itself is non-returnable so I just set out an email to bitch and maybe it'll get me somewhere, probably not.

I guess today's lesson is watch for the Jew hidden behind sportsmans guide

>>32562763
Yeah, hopefully someone with something that'll take it will show up on my path.

>>32562767
Maybe it was just the particular ammo I was shooting, but my Mosin still rusted a little with both Hoppes and Ballistol. I caught it fast enough that I could get it out but it left a bad taste in my mouth after that. I know it should work but at the same time, after that I'm just nervous about it.

>inb4 'you just weren't using it right'

>>32562450
>>32562450

anyone?

>>32562791
Generally that means you didn't get all the corrosive stuff out.

Just like cleaning you gotta run a bore snake through it several times, 7 is a good number to shoot for.

>>32562719
Yes it is. You pour water down the barrel to remove the salts. You make the water hot so it dries quicker. You scrub the barrel with patches or a borensnake to get remaining water. Then you clean as normal with oil.

>>32562825
I guess I'll give it another shot on something that I can live with getting rusted, gas tube or something. Everything that google turned up with said that Hoppe's either didn't work for corrosive or required several days of cleaning in a row but I'll just have to see how it turns out for me.

>>32562825
Or you just pour a bit of hot water in and run a snake through. If our wole argument is "using water is too much work" I'll counter that running a snake covering in oil through seven times to clear the salts is way more work.

>>32562847
>>32562825
>>32562839

I don't shoot very much when I shoot, but I shoot often. I can verify a boresnake w/ hoppes works perfectly for keeping it from rusting.

it only takes like 3 rounds for it to rust on top of the fucking chrome lining in the bore, the grooves and the geometry around those cuts are where it's most likely to start rusting.

>>32562859
It's more work because you have to dry the fucking water off of it afterward. You should be running a snake through the bore several times anyway if you are cleaning it.

It really is the easiest and most time-effective way to do it.

>>32562886
Drying is usually done just in the basic course of cleaning though? Wiping shit down with a rag dries it. For the bore, the patches dry it, or the soft brush if that's what you use.
I'm not the other guy but I really don't see either how running a bore snake with Hoppe's >7 times is easier than some water (not even necessarily hot water) and once through with a brush.

>>32562911
how are they applying the water?

Because I've heard everything from boiling a pot of water and pouring it down the bore to holding it under a spigot in the yard for a few seconds. Then you have to dry every droplet of water off of it, and it's going to take quite a bit of water or a lot of scrubbing after that too.

But whatever, if you shoot enough corrosive 5.45x39 you'll figure it out, as long as everyone knows that hoppes + bore snake is an option eventually I will gain converts.

I don't think red army standard and silver bear and that 5.45 stuff is corrosive though.

>>32559497
I built a Hungarian Underfolder. Bent the receiver, spot welded, heat treated, black oxide finished it. Was a fun experience.

>>32562937
It doesn't have to be hot, the heat just makes it evaporate more quickly. The water is what actually flushes out the salts. People who claim their favorite cleaner is "salt neutralizing" don't really know what they're talking about; if Hoppe's and a snake works for you it's because you run it through a bunch of times and it clears the salts out. A few seconds of water to flush them out seems a little easier imo. Not really sure what you meant by "quite a bit of water or a lot of scrubbing after that" because a single flush is actually all it takes. I've cleaned my Mosin and Mauser like that for years.

And "you have to dry every droplet of water off of it" is a pretty big exaggeration. A few drops of water isn't gonna rust a gun.

>>32562937
I don't know about AKs, but for corrosive ammo in my Mosin all I do is pour a bottle of water down the chamber and make sure to get a bit of water on the bolt face, firing pin, and muzzle area. Then I run a water patch down the barrel and proceed to clean like normal.

Never had a rust problem.

>>32562991
since we agree on the action of preventing the rusting (scraping the corrosive shit out) then it's much more clear that something that evaporates quickly is likely less work IMO.


>And "you have to dry every droplet of water off of it" is a pretty big exaggeration. A few drops of water isn't gonna rust a gun.

It might OP's Arsenal. It definitely would my Bulgarian kit build, lots of nooks and crannies around the rifle for water to sit in.

How corrosive is 54R compared to 7N6 anyway?

>>32563015
probably because your normal cleaning regimen scraped the rest of the shit out.

>>32557726

Is it wrong that I find the Geico Gecko attractive?

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>>32563037
da.

>>32563023
I guess as long as it works it's really not a big deal. To each their own. It's just my opinion that water is easier. I don't think a few droplets is going to rust an Arsenal if it didn't do anything to a Mauser with a lot of the finish worn off. Even if it does, like I said before drying can usually be done just during normal cleaning.

54R is significantly more corrosive than 7n6. Also the Turk surplus 8mm I shoot is some of the most corrosive shit you can possibly buy, the Turks were huge fans of KCl.

>>32563023
>probably because your normal cleaning regimen scraped the rest of the shit out.
My normal cleaning regimen is a patch or three of CLP down the barrel, a dry patch, and then one last patch of CLP. Then I wipe down whatever outside metal surfaces I can reach with a CLP patch. It's not really that intense.

>>32563053
Where do you live that guns don't rust?

Southern Indiana here.

>>32563071
I didn't say that guns don't rust, I just said that a couple drops of water doesn't rust. Nice reading comprehension.

OKfag. If you don't know it's usually humid as hell here.

>>32563071
Arizona, I left my mosin in a creek and when I came back two years later the creek was gone and the mosin was fine

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>>32563095

What?

>>32563089
whatever the case may be, putting water on your firearms is a silly idea.

>>32563156
How is it silly if it works? Russkies pissed down their barrels when they didn't have solvent available, but it worked.

>>32563174
pissing down the bore of your rifle because you don't have a proper solvent available isn't the same thing as choosing the appropriate solvent.

>>32563207
Again, I really don't see how it's inappropriate if it works just fine.

>>32557726
I shot some of that corrosive Yugo x39 through my Saiga the other day and used my Enfield funnel to pour boiling water down the barrel and gas tube/block. Wiped everything down with oil afterwards. Just be sure to do it over your bath tub, don't want to get boiling hot water spraying all over when it comes out of the bent holes in your gas block.

>>32563156
Water dissolves the corrosives salts. The salts are hydrophilic, much like you are homophilic, and get swept away when the water is washed away.

This isn't rocket science.

>>32563228
It's not my job to give you common sense, boy.

>>32563242
source: your ass

>>32563249
>source: your ass
Source: highschool chemistry level knowledge, i.e. it's salt you dumb faggot. Try graduating and then come back.

>>32563249
Source: basic science. KCl is a hydrophilic compound.

Why are you so desperate to make everyone use Hoppe's, when flushing with water is what actually clears the salts? In fact it's the water in Hoppe's or anything else that actually clears out the salts. The main component of Hoppe's is Ammonium Hydroxide, or Ammonia dissolved in water. Basically the same shit that makes people think Windex works--it's not the ammonia doing the dissolving, it's just water flushing it out.

What was that about "common sense" again?

>>32563312
>>32563308
You fucking faggots want to show up now and bring something new to the discussion?

Besides that, they never advocated windex + water they said plain old water.

Windex + water evaporates faster like Hoppes does.

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>>32563312

Do you smell it too? That smell? A kind of smelly smell, a smelly smell that smells...smelly.

>A hoppeso-sapien.

>>32557726
Boiling water is actually less effective than warm soapy water

>>32563312
I think Hoppes is a petroleum distillate like Kerosene instead of ammonia.

>>32563349
British army doctrine was to flush out a barrel with boiling water to flush out the barrel after firing corrosive ammo in enfields. There was even a special funnel issued to fit in the chamber to necessitate. Boiling water will evaporate quickly, and if you aren't a complete dumbass you'll do a wipedown of your gun just in case anyway before wiping it down with something like CLP

>>32563397
It also doesn't have a gas block + port.

>>32563349
What did we bring that's new? You're the one who said "source: your ass" when it was brought up why water works. And plenty of people advocate Windex, nobody said we did. Your reading comprehension is slipping really, really far.
>>32563392
Maybe one of the older/newer receipes. Last I was aware it was Ammonium Hydroxide.
>>32563407
And that makes it less effective how? You haven't been arguing that at all until it was brought up that an official military used water, like we do.

>>32563446
You'll probably never shoot enough corrosive ammo for it to matter anyway--but why not give it a try sometime.

Anybody here shot the Chiappa Rhino? Is the 6 o clock barrel just a meme or a real improvement?

>>32563466
Why not try water? I use water and it works great, fag.
And nice job making assumptions. I've shot thousands of rounds of 54R, 8mm, 7n6, and Yugo 7.62. Water has always worked fine. I've only had rust issues after using Hoppe's and Ballistol, like I said.

Is there any good way to approach somebody who is "concealed" carrying but doing it completely wrong withiut being a tool or autistic?
>in safeway
>see guy walking kind of awkwardly like he's wearing an uncomfortable holster
>see tell-tale picking at jacket near holster
>massive print of full sized handgun because his jacket is too tight.

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>>32563446
>>32563516

Again, in a pinch using water will work if you dry it out really well afterward.

The salts "dissolving" into the water is fucking bullshit, if you don't believe me, try with a pathc of water vs a patch of hoppes or something.

The action we are using is scraping it out of the barrel to prevent corrosion.

>>32563527
But nobody said anything about it dissolving in water. I even said earlier that the goal is to flush it out. Are you even trying anymore? Or have you been huffing too much Hoppe's?

>>32562531
Break it down into reloading components or sell it to me cheap (Ill break it down and reload it if it doesnt fit either of my 8mm mausers)

>>32562450

still no-one who knows?

What's the cheapest way to get into concealed carry? I don't have shit, carry ammo, holsters, or even a firearm small enough to carry, and it costs like 150 dollars for the permit, and mandatory 16 hour training costs 100-150 dollars.

I only have 500 dollars I can devote to this, and if I was in any other state besides Illinois, I could get some very good carry options in that price range in any other state but the fees just to process the application suck so much into my gear money that I don't think it's possible.

>>32563606
I think the SS weapons used a slightly modified Waffenamt. Also, they used a shit ton of weapons taken from other countries--i.e. the CZ-383 and the Vis35.

>>32563623
>I think the SS weapons used a slightly modified Waffenamt.
well fsck I ran out of patience & wrote a short story with the presumption that SS didn't use Waffenamt, thanks anyway, I'll play the "artistic license" -card if someone complains...
>Also, they used a shit ton of weapons taken from other countries--i.e. the CZ-383 and the Vis35.
right, I probably should have specified I was talking about German-made weapons

>>32563527
If you're having luck 'scraping it out' you might be overcleaning like a motherfucker. There was a guy on one of the other gun boards who did a test popping corrosive primers over metal washers (like 30 or 40 of them) and doing a wipe down over each with a different cleaner. The point was to find a cleaner that you could by to skip the water step. Some of the washers rusted a lot less than others, but the only washers that didnt rust at all iirc were the washer wiped with water, and the control.

You are spreading disinformation that could damage peoples property.

>>32563677
Bullshit, it works perfectly for me.

>>32563676
I looked at some documentation, it looks like they didn't use the Waffenamt from 1941-1943, and after they became super huge in late 1943, they used a Waffenamt that looks a lot like the Wehrmacht one, but the eagle is more detailed.

What are some good trigger mittens that are warm, comfortable and grip onto things well?

I'm eventually moving to Alaska, and I want to be prepared. I gotta be able to operate my bolt action rifles and shoot 'em reliably in the cold, as well as use tools and stuff outside.

>>32563677
>>32563691
Oh yeah, I remember that test. I don't remember how well Hoppe's did, I only noticed that Remoil rusted like shit.

And it only works perfectly for you when you scrape it out with ~10 passes with a bore snake. How is that not overcleaning compared to pouring some water down the bore?

>>32563722
bore snake bristles are mostly worn down, it's just cloth on bore for the most part.

Bore snakes take multiple passes to remove solvent anyway.

>>32563735
Wasn't it you who said that salts dissolving in any kind of fluid was bullshit? How are you "scraping out" the salts if you don't have bristles left?

>>32563735
Bore snakes are shit. Advertised as a convenience, but involve you running dirty shit back through your barrel, often repeatedly.

Why do you think everyone else in the world, including the militaries that used corrosive primers, are wrong, but you alone are right?

P.s. if youre using Hoppes Elite its water based.

>>32563697
ah, good, then the timeframe fits after all, I have to stretch things a bit but still...

>>32563798
>>32563764
cloth on bore with hoppes #9.

I also wash my bore snakes.

>>32563798
>Why do you think everyone else in the world, including the militaries that used corrosive primers, are wrong, but you alone are right?

They're just poor and can't afford bottles of scented kerosene.

>>32563836
But bare cloth on bore wouldn't scrape out salts. That's the entire point of using water or some other thing to flush out the salts.

>They're just poor and can't afford bottles of scented kerosene.
So you're implying you're richer than organizations that have multi-million or multi-billion dollar budgets?

>>32563836
>they're just poor
I get it now, you're a richfag! I should've guessed, trying to get everyone to use a product that doesn't work as well as something that's free.

If a gun I'm looking for is out of stock everywhere both local and online, can I do special orders or anything, or am I SOL until they get more stock?

Just curious, does anybody here browse /qst/?

Do i put the rust protection on last or the lube last when cleaning my guns?

What's the most I should pay for an SKS?

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I want to build an RPK.

Isn't like the AR where the lower is considered the gun and needs a 4473?

ive seen the in range video. How do you seal the ak better?

Are there any better replacement systems than the piston?

I don't have the webm but it showed just how much the ak barrel flexed and imparted a wobble on the bullet. Im willing to bet the piston has something to do with it.

>inb4 build ar with 24" barrel

Looks ugly. RPK is aesthic

Ps ive seen the rest of the mud tests. Why do they keep saying there is no objectively best rifle? What can the G3 M1A Mas and AK do that the AR can't do light years better

>>32558310
yea hello i like feminine dicks

>>32562571
I've heard from several people who got their cc info stolen after buying there.

>>32558898
>Hopper #9 is gun lube

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Hey /k/
Why do some Artillery pieces have spikey bits on the muzzle?

>>32565906
AFFIX BAYONETS

How highly do we rate our sticky? In need of an update or /fit/ tier?

>>32565906
truck hooks.

>>32558200
A Walter PPQ.

>>32566106
explain.

What's the civilian equivalent to the sg550? I know the ones with the actual Sig name are almost the same.
Is the 556 version good enough? I fucking love that Swiss Ass gun and know I can't shell 7k for an original antique mother fucker.

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For my Feminism and Media studies class I'm doing my final project on toxic masculinity. I told my Teachress that I was going to do a performance piece on toxic masculinity where I blow off my dick with an AR15 to demonstrate the destructive nature of america's obsession with guns and how it relates to small penises and insufficient manhood manifesting itself as a violent facade.

The problem is I'm too poor to afford an AR15. In California they are really hard to find too! I did manage to walk straight into a walmart and buy 5.56 ARMORED PIERCING BULLETS because it's SO EASY to get them.

Will this work? do I really need a rifle since i"m only shooting at like 2 inches?

>>32566247
To hang the gun on the truck for towing - why use a separate pole when the barrel is already there.

What is a good resource for detailed processes and troubleshooting for reloading? I'm new to the skill and feel like the reloading manual I have (Hornady) breezes over the whole process so it has more room for special snowflake calibers. Really looking for info on problems I should look out for and how to effectively use the tools like the trimmers, chamfer/deburr etc.

>>32566269
I'm sure that someone nice gun owner in your area would donate his weapon to watch you blow your dick off!
Ps. I know it's bait but ayyy

>>32566258
pretty sure it's called the Sig 556 but I could be wrong.

>>32566269
Should be fine.

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>>32566270
Unless I see photographic evidence of this being done I'm going to assume you are either a retard, a troll, or both.

>>32565906
....we spend billions of dollars on our military and the best earpro they can think of is their fingers....

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>>32566292
http://www.eme421.com/M777.html
So, how much of a cretin are you?

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>>32558162
The block is chromed, but the tube itself is not.

Neither is the KVar muzzle brake.

Clean both!

>>32566331
Not sure if I'm a cretin or not but I concede that you are neither a troll or a retard.

>>32564859
>Why do they keep saying there is no objectively best rifle? What can the G3 M1A Mas and AK do that the AR can't do light years better

It's because, by their own admission, that mudtests are very specific situational tests. Guns that perform well in the mud test may not perform well in other adverse condition testing. ARs, as far as I understand, do pretty poorly after being submerged in water, whereas AKs wont give a shit.

Also, it has a lot to do with the complexity of the system and what type of army you're outfitting. ARs are good rifles but they are more complicated to maintain (and actually require maintenance) as opposed to an AK platform which does not require that much careful handling. ARs are good for trained troops, AKs are good for untrained irregulars

>>32566592
They don't do poorly unless you don't let the rifle drain. So, if you're in some situation where you have to come out the water and a nanosecond later fire the gun, maybe it's a bad choice. I don't think that's a realistic scenario, though.

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Anyone know where I can hunt down some 15rd CZ 75 mag followers? Everywhere I've looked seems to be out of stock atm

I want to become more self-sufficient, would learning how to prep be a good starting point? My dream would be to not need money for anything, but I know how far-fetched that is.

Just busted out an old revolver my mom owned back in the 1960s to give it a proper cleaning. The barrel and cylinder wiped down pretty well, but there's a lot of fouling around the breach that the cleaning oil (Hoppes) isn't picking up too well, is there something more I can do to polish it up?

>>32565202
Really? Shit dude. Hopefully the chances are still low. I haven't seen anything unusual.

>>32567987
Maybe keep a close eye on it for a month or two and notify your card company the second anything pops up.

I kinda still want a can or two so I'm thinking about loading a prepaid card for the transaction.

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Bought my first handgun the other day, it's a Girsan Regard MC (pic related). Does anyone know if I could use a .22 conversion kit for the 92FS on this?

Should I tumble brass before or after sizing?

>>32568166
From what I'm seeing on AKFiles it was a few isolated cases, and some of them may or may not have actually been Sarge's. My guess it was some stockroom employees. Do you have any other stories of it online?

>>32569150
I do it before so there are no gaps in the process of sizing, depriming, priming, loading.

>>32569181
Ive already deprimed it with a hand depriming tool, just wondering if sizing is gonna mess up the finish.

>>32569403
>just wondering if sizing is gonna mess up the finish.

No, and stop worrying about if your ammo is pretty.

>>32569429
Fuck you, I want my rounds to be

a e s t h e t i c

>>32569469
I keep forgetting this board is full of gay people.

>>32569469
Just like /fit/ says, it's all about C.O.L., HEAD FACE, CARTRIDGE WALL

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>>32557726

Got a new Remington 700 in .260 with a 24 inch barrel and 1/8 twist for Christmas and I'm looking for some good loads for it. Just going for groupings on paper, no hunting.

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where do i get those pistol sleeves for gun safe doors? you know the things that have velcro stuff on them and you attach them to the actually door and can put your pistols in?

>>32562512
>Must be WA legal.
Nigger what? There's no ban on anything in WA, what are you talking about?

>>32562544
Arex
>>32562603
It's not 2014 you fucking mongoloid. Jesus Christ how ignorant are you? Please show me non-corrosive 5.45 for 22 cents. I'll wait
>>32566292
Way to badmouth someone who helped you with factual information you fucking idiot

>>32570492
p!$$ off lumploaf

I'm getting a BDC reticle scope for my bolt action (matched to the round I'm using).
I can get a 3-12x40 or 4.5-18x40 for the same price as the latter is on sale.
Which one should I get? Is higher power automatically better?

Since there's not an /AKG/ up right meow

I bought an Ultimak for my SLR104 but didn't get the shims they recommend for the smaller diameter barrels. It seemed to torque up to the barrel just fine tho

Should I worry about losing zero or should I be alright?

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Do I need a concentricity tool for bulk reloading, or is it more of a precision oriented tool?

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Is there anywhere else to bid/buy for guns online that isn't Gunbroker? They rarely have anything at a decent price, or you get dimwits who ruin everything for some unknown reason.

>bid on a cheap Marlin 60 because it's only $60 bucks
>someone bids on it for more
>"Oh well, I don't want it that badly, but I'll watch to see where it goes"
>ends up going for $140 (plus $30 shipping, plus FFL fees, etc)
>realize that's fucking stupid because even Cabela's of all places sells them for $150 brand new without getting gouged by shipping or FFL nonsense
>mfw people bid like this

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>>32572232
That's some F-class level precision. Unless you are trying to shoot 1/4 moa groups, I wouldn't worry about it

>>32570139
Check brownells, midway usa or maybe even amazon. Or check the website of whoever made your safe.

>>32572366
Thanks, I'm still assembling my setup. Any recommendation on tools beyond the basic press kit? Have hornady classic LNL kit, sonic cleaner, tumbler, shell holder set, die sets, hand deprimer, plenty of ammo boxes.

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>>32572457
calipers and a case gauge for whatever calibers you intend to reload. Checking OAL is super important for safety. Also maybe consider a second reloading manual, I suggest Lyman. It's good to have a breadth of information about different loads.

What are you reloading?

>>32572680
9mm, .45, .223, and maybe .fuddy-fuddy

I sent some guy a message through armslist and he replied to it. I sent a response back through my email and haven't gotten anything even though the first was timely.
Do armslist messages not go directly to e-mail? Should I just follow up with another armslist message or should I just wait it out?

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>>32571887
According to their website you only need the shims for Romanian 5.56mm and 5.45mm rifles. Bulgarian should be fine.

http://ultimak.com/SH1.htm

>>32562188
My brother's Makarov has this same issue
The slide locks back on an empty mag if it was loaded halfway
His is East German

Has anyone ever been to the Antique Arms Show in Vegas? It's coming up in 2 weeks. Looking for old military surplus.

retard here, I bought an AR kit and it didn't come with any of the safety parts. Customer service literally refuses to respond to me.

Where can I get a decent one/ the tools needed to install one?

>>32573285
People on the internet are flaky as fuck.

>>32557726
I went to REI to get my feet fitted for some Salomon boots and it turns out that I have Flintstone feet...my feet are to wide It seems that I wear a 10.5 US 11.5 UK they are a tad snug on the sides so I am not sure if I want to get them because of the snugness while hiking/ going on the range. I however tried some Lowa boots and they fit my feet better. Is there a consensus about the two?
Lowa Men's Zephyr Mid TF Hiking Boot
vs
Salomon Men's Quest 4D 2 GTX Hiking Boot

>>32573590
the only tool you need to install an ar safety is a screwdriver or hex wrench to remove the pistolgrip. as for individual parts jut google it plenty of places sell single parts

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>>32557726
Is it safe to leave a propane torch like this in my car? I bought it as a novelty and overkill way of lighting cigarettes and kinda want to use it on a daily basis. it won't leak and blow up my car will it? and i might use it as a weapon so this question is /k/ related

>>32574625
Callum pls go

>>32575064
fuck off i'm serious

>>32566080
in need of update i'd say
Where can I find cheap mosins these days?

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>>32566592
That makes sense considering all soviet invasion plans were reactionary.

All they needed was a gun to cross the Various mountain ranges and the rhine to cross into the rest of Europe.

Other than that its objectively shit.

>gas rings and twisting brake line is hard.

Pls

nitride coating and anodizing does better than chrome lining any day of the week or future. There's no reason to own an AK anymore.

Hello friends! I would like some advice.

I got some money for Christmas and my birthday and am thinking about getting a new rifle.

I'll be getting it from Field and Stream 'cuz I got a girftcard there. All in all, I have $150 to put towards a gun in gift money. After that, it's all me. That being said, price isn't the biggest issue, more so the somewhat limited selection.

Here are my choices;

Marlin 1895, 45/70; no real use, and probably can't afford to feed it, and I'm in no position to get a reloading setup.

Browning BLR, 308; I've wanted a lever gun and a 308 for a while so this is what I'm leaning towards

Oracle or other cheap AR; no use for and already have an SKS in case of SHTF.

Mossman MVP Patrol, 308; I want a 308 and the detachable mag plus smaller size seems cool

Other suggestions? Experience with any of these? Please and thanks.

Where can I find good information on the differences between the AR10 and the AR16? All I can find is AR10 compared to AR15, AR15 compared to AR18, and liberals talking about the scary "AR16 assault rifle" the US military and school shooters use. The AR16 doesn't even have a Wikipedia page.
And just to be clear, the AR16 is total unobtanium, right?

I won a gun on gunbroker and had it shipped to my local FFL. The tracking number I got says it was delivered yesterday morning, and gives a name of who signed for it. Every other time I've had something shipped there they have called me within 2 hours of delivery, except for the time the seller didn't include my contact info. About 8 hours after it arrived and 2 hours before they closed I called just to make sure they received it. The guy who answered the phone said no such gun has arrived and wouldn't say if there was or was not someone who worked there with the name that signed for it. What should I do now?

Is the recoil force of guns greater than that of gravity? Could a gun fly to the sky if it shot on its own?

>>32562188
>>32562240
>>32562311

Late response but ensure your not holding down the slide release with your grip while your shooting. Got a Sig 239 and 2022 and whenever i have people shoot it they always grip the switch and it doesnt hold open.

Other than that magazines as was stated and dirt in the receiver.

>>32577417
Go the fuck down there. Get the police involved if they don't hand over your property.

>>32577441
Depends on the caliber and weight of the gun. I dont feel like looking up the weights, times, and velocities involved but i would assume no.

>>32577330
It's the AR10 but with compact internals so that the buffer mechanism doesn't stick out into the buttstock. AR10 is to the AR15 as the AR16 is to the AR18.
The AR16 never left prototype phase, but you could probably have one made if you absolutely fucking hate money.

My brother fucked his Nugget stock up
Should he get another surplus stock or one of those dumb Archangel stocks and cut it to length?

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>>32562007
That romainian shit got stuck in my chamber about every 3 rounds in my K98 the ammo was free though with the rifle still got it

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Should I convert a vepr To take regular ak stocks or just buy an slr like OP? I dont mind the work, and id probably put wood on the slr anyway

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>>32578003
VEPR will do whatever you command. She is good girl. Very cute and sex.

>>32578020
In your cheeki breeki opinion what is best sight/ barrel length for 7.62x39 VEPR

>>32578405
>7.62x39
>sight
Irons.
>barrel length
16.5".

If I shoot myself in the femoral artery, whats the chance it'll be seen as an accident instead of suicide? Also whats the chance of success, given I live alone in an apartment building?

I don't want to hurt the people I care about, making them think they could have saved me or something like that, which is why I want it to be an accident.

>>32580438
none, no chance

don't do it

>>32580438
Just go start a gunfight with a cartel or the ATF or the IRA or BLM protestors.

>>32580548
this

put your gun to good use and remove social problems

>>32557726
Hey /k/, where's the best place to sell a parts kit? I have an AK kit I don't want anymore. l'd like to use Gunbroker but I'm not sure if that's the best option.

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>8oz Brass Hammer. 8 Brass Punches: 1/8", 9/64", 5/32", 3/16", 7/32", 1/4", 9/32" & 5/16". 2 Steel Punches: 1/16" & 3/32". 2 Plastic Punches: 15/64" & 3/8".
Are there other punches I'll need for build/maintenance?

>>32580438
use explosives instead, might as well make the world a better place too though.

be creative

>>32580648
You have all the parts for an AK? I'll give u 200

20 so I won't be able to do either of these for a couple months but regardless I'm still curious what benefits open carry has over concealed carry when a handgun is concerned. Why would someone want to OC as opposed to CC? It doesn't really strike me as something that would really deter crime but instead put a target on my back, and I was wondering if there were any strong arguments to the contrary.

>>32575064
who is callum?

>>32576286
>nitride coating and anodizing does better than chrome lining any day of the week or future. There's no reason to own an AK anymore.

chrome lining resists high temps better.

>>32577441
it would be an inefficient way of doing so, I think.

>>32580438
Don't do it broski

>>32580733
It will attract attention to you and let everyone know you have a gun.
This is the pro to some and the con to others.

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I'm looking to restore my first gun, a Savage 24c camper model, to its former glory. Does anyone know where I can buy a replacement buttplate? I can only find the basic version.
Pic related is what's left of the current plate.

Has anyone ever bought online from cogunsales?
Looking at gunbroker I see a fun I want, but searching a tad more I found that cogunsales has the same thing but for a lot cheaper.

Any experience with them? I'm not sure if I should stay with gunbroker since I've already done deals there and they went smooth as fuck or if I should get the cheaper one from cogunsales.

What should I look for in a gun cleaning kit? How much should I reasonably expect to pay? Any recommended brands/types to pick up?

>>32580672
Thats fine. Youll probably only actually use a couple of them for an ar build.

>>32580438
all the farmers around me just drive their trucks into trees at 80 mph while stone cold sober
it ensures the family gets an insurance payout

>>32582326
>What should I look for in a gun cleaning kit?
Brass brushes, cleaner of some kind, patches, oil, and preferably a steel rod. Theyre pretty cheap.

>>32582326
Reasonably you need a minimum of snakes, oil, and a cleaning wire with a brass brush. Patches and a head to hold them on the cleaning wire are good.

OTIS makes pretty ok kits. I think they even sell lower end OTIS kits at WalMart. They get bonus points for being very compact.

Add in q-tips and pipe cleaners from dollar stores. Get some brass scrapers for heavy buildup.

>>32582476
>>32582443
Thanks. While I'm asking, is their anything specific that can clean up black fouling better than Hoppes gun cleaner? Not rust or corrosion, jusy discoloration.

>>32558310
Speak for yourself I like real men.

When did /k/ get so many tripfags and why do they think they're special enough that we should care about them?

>>32583584
Why are you so new that you can't use a filter?

>>32558310
STOP THIS MEME.

/k/ is not a gay board. There is simply like a dozen tranny and gay posters that constantly shitpost about being gay and then spout about how "traps are /k/ as fuck!"

>>32583601
That isn't an answer the question I asked. It isn't even a good solution to the problem.
Alls I'm saying is it seems like every day there's a new tripfag. Before you know it we're gonna be like reddit.

At least I'm not as new as >>32583651

I shoot 7n6 from my Bulgarian Parts kit rifle made by a certain old trip fag. Chromed American made barrel. I just use clp and keep it in a safe with silica gel device for moisture control.

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I bought a Ruger American Rimfire a while back and recently put some techsights on it. I thought the barrel might have been canted when I first got it but now that I've put the techsights on it (they're taller so it's more noticeable), I can tell the barrel is definitely canted or the hole for the front sight was tapped on an angle. I have to have the rear sight adjusted about a third of the way to the left to get it to shoot straight at 50 yards.

Should I just call Ruger and have them fix it? How much do they charge for this? I'm pretty sure the barrel is pressed into the receiver on RARs, so wouldn't they basically end up just giving me a new gun?

All I wanted was something I cared less about than my CZ 452 ultralux for /innawoodsing/ that also had a flush fitting magazine. This sucks.

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>>32583651
Stop being so flamingly straight. Holy shit, we get it, you can have sex with people of the opposite sex. Get over it and stop shoving your perversions down our throats.

>>32557726
how do you clean your car when they salt the roads? do you pour boiling water on it? spray the whole car down with windex? some fancy $over9000 a once snakeoil?

take ak
garden hose the fucker like you're water boarding a terrorist
let dry
clean as any "normal" human would clean a firearm
??????
PROFIT

you can substitute garden hose with 20oz bottle water, a fucking creek or any body of water, even human piss if none of the above is available.

goddamn it's fucking primer salt not battery acid

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Took a $50 shotgun and did some cosmetic and mechanical work to get it to a shootable condition.
Does it look ok?
Darker stain?
Should I get a trigger guard for it?

>>32566300
>our military
those arnt us troops yo.

>>32583926
yes no and no, good work bro I love a classic simple firearm

>>32584014
Thanks. I had to do stock repair, machine a new linkage block for the locking lever, and did a subtle "blue magic" to the receiver. The receiver is many shades of blue to purple to teal, but it probably isn't visible in the image.

>>32577295
I would go for the BLR

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>>32557726
Why would you buy slavshit when we are at the cusp of getting cheap imports again in a few weeks?

Recently bought a remington 700 adl chambered in .30-06. Just have a few questions about it.
1. What is the barrel twist and what grain bullet should I use?
If I wanted to upgrade it to use a removable magazine, should I even bother? If so, how should I go about doing it?

>>32562543

Balistol been around a long time and works as intended. Same with Hoppe's #9.

>>32584280
There are no import bans against Bulgaria, numbnuts

>>32584503
Some people would rather have Russian over Bulgarian. Meaning less demand for Arsenal. Meaning lower prices.

But I really don't think the bans will be lifted for a good long while.

>>32584612
If they're even lifted at all. AKOU has a great post about it. The import bans against Russia aren't just executive orders and it's doubtful Trump gives enough of a shit to bother with them anytime soon.

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>>32557726

Whatever happened to the Browning 1911-380? Haven't heard a peep about it since it was released. I like the idea of a scaled down 1911. Is it just that nobody wanted it, and it served no real purpose? Not small enough to CC compared to all the compacts on the market and .380 is too weak, so it serves no purpose but to have just because you want it?

Ok. Not sure if appropriate but it is k related.
Who is hunter 3-1?
I see him in EVERY FUCKING THREAD. is it some new meme or something?
I swear there has to be like 50 people shitposting under th at name

I'm moving to Alaska.

What are some really good milsurp coats? Ones that are warm and comfortable while allowing good maneuverability so I can still shoot my guns real nice without sleeves or something getting in the way.

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>>32585005
What exactly do you mean by this, Hunter 3-1 Actual?

>>32584978
Fudds don't like 380.

>>32583788
kek

I've never fired a rifle before, and I picked up a nugget the other day. What's a good range to start practicing and what are some good practices to do?
I'm also cross dominant, should I try shooting with my main and just close the other eye or should I learn to shoot with my off-hand to shoot with both eyes open?

>>32586067
Well, you picked a shitty rifle to learn on. But I did it too, and millions of Soviets and Chinks did it, so you should manage.
Start off short range. 30-50 meters will do. Don't even think about going shooting until you have the four big safety rules memorized. Always remember to hold the rifle firmly to your shoulder, pulling it in- it'll reduce recoil. Trigger pulls should be smooth and done with the pad of your finger. Don't try to control recoil at first, you'll pull your aim off. Try to start off sitting down, or you'll have to worry about your stance. Always remember to stay leaning a bit forward.
Learn to shoot righty, keep both eyes open. Maybe squint your left some if your brain doesn't want to focus through your right.

>>32570296
WA bans full autos and SBSs, not too big of a deal because you can just get that one shorty mossberg if you want one.

>>32583926
Id add one to two more coats of finish on to the stock, but thats my opinion. I like glossy. What did you use to finish it? I just redid my ak furniture and im finalizing it with periodic coats of tung oil.

Why does birdshot recoil less than buckshot and slugs?

You're pushing the same amount of mass to the same velocity, where does the discrepancy come from? Pressure seal to the barrel or something?

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What gun is this guy holding?

>>32586118
Thanks pal, I'll keep that in mind. I've fired handguns before so I'm familiar with the big 4 rules, though I'm far from skilled, and I know i flinch downwards and inwards when I think too much about the recoil.
I picked up a chinese nugget carbine because it was cheap at a local shop and I like chinese history. What makes it shitty to learn on aside from having what I assume is some big kick?

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Looking at buying a barrel. It's between two with nearly identical specs, but one is chrome lined for $200 and the other is nitride for $140.
The chrome lined is a slightly thicker profile. Which one?

>>32583926
Yes to trigger guard, I'm triggered

>>32569469
You tumble first and the decapping rod mechanically ensures that the flash holes arent blocked by media.

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Can anyone recommend me a decent .44 mag? It'd be mostly a range toy. Is there anything aesthetically pleasing in the $400-$500 price range? Must be able to cc so nothing more than 6.5"

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>>32587642
Not a .44 Mag, but I can do you one better with 8 rounds of .357 in a concealable package.

>>32587684
I'm not that focused on cc; that looks like it'd be too small for me to hold comfortably anyway

>>32587702
*forgot to add
Something like the Ruger redhawk but not as pricey

>>32587702
It is not very small by any means. Look up a video, it's like a normal revolver with a snub nose.

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I'm looking at getting my first AR.

I live in NY, so a standard AR is unfortunately not an option. I can choose between pic related, a featureless AR with detachable magazine, or a modified M&P 15 with the collapsible stock and pistol grip, but a fixed magazine, which loads from the top.

I'm not sure which to go for. It seems to me the featureless would be more useful in an emergency situation, with the ability to quickly reload, but realistically I'm thinking I'll only ever shoot it recreationally at the range. The fixed magazine variant is also about $100 cheaper.

Is it feasible and/or reasonable to go for the fixed magazine variant, but convert it to pic related later, if I change my mind and decide I want detachable mags? I know I could swap the stocks no problem, but what would be involved in getting rid of the fixed magazine to accommodate detachable magazines?

Any insight or other suggestions are appreciated; thanks.

>>32588373
get a pa license and buy as many guns as you like there. rent a storage or keep it at your friends/family.

any recommendations for old dual-band radios?
don't want chinese stuff, want a good old fashioned cinder block

>>32558266
You are a tranny. See physician of Hasidic or Sephardic persuasion for the necessary surgical upgrade.

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im turning 21 this year and im pretty poor and in college full time. Should i sell my ar for a nice carry pistol or keep it?
basically which is more useful in my situation?

As someone who is new to guns, can anyone tell me if there's performance differences (accuracy, general quality, etc) between a Ruger 10/22 and a Marlin 60? From what I understand, the Ruger gets a removable magazine instead of being tube fed, and it has a much larger aftermarket. If I just want a basic rifle to practice with (maybe with a scope, but nothing else), would I have any problems by going for the Marlin 60 instead due to the cheaper cost?

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So I hike a lot and I bring a rifle with me when I hike. My question is if a game warden approaches me and accuses me of hunting without a license what should I do? just explain how im not hunting? will that work?

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>>32557726
what are the rules for a former or current LEO traveling outside of the country (specifically Canada or Europe) if they wish to bring a firearm

I know they have pretty much interstate access across the US to have a ccw if they wish, but what if they are going outside of the country. Asking for my dad,former deputy sheriff for 32 years, he might do some traveling this summer and wants some "peace of mind" aka his .45 glock

>>32557928
>The water doesn't even really NEED to be hot, that just helps it dry quicker.

Yes it fucking does. Higher temperature massively increases water's effectivity as a solvent. Otherwise dishwashers would be using cold water and nobody would bother to boil water to brew tea or coffee.

>>32591767
>traveling outside of the country
>Europe
>wish to bring a firearm

You need the European firearms pass and an invitation for a shooting or hunting event to bring a firearm into any EU state (unless it's transit with the purpose of permanent importation).

>former or current LEO

No exceptions for special snowflakes.

>>32591767
You're subject to all laws of the nation you're going to, which basically means:
Don't, you'll be arrested because they dgaf if you're a foreign cop and almost any country you can go to will frown intensely on the idea of anybody having a CCW.

HR218 LEOSA only applies to the United States and its territories.
If you're really itching to travel with your LEOSA right to carry, try Hawaii, Guam, or Puerto Rico - although all three of those still make you jump through huge hoops for LEOSA carry.

>>32591857
>>32591926
hmm, what about canada then, any better or worse or about the same?
honestly after several of the shootings and truck rampages theyre not feeling Europe at the moment

Anyone have experience with shotgun inserts? I can get a set of 8 that'll let me shoot all sorts of pistol rounds out of my break action 20ga for 140. Seems pretty cool. Is it worth?

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New /k/ommando here intent on lurking more before shit posting too much, but I've got a few questions. I just won a mossberg 590a1 on gunbroker, it's my second gun and first shotgun. Pic related is my first purchase (love it).

I want a good heaping pile of slugs, birdshot, and buck. I'm looking at bulkammo and there's tons of options, more than I ever would have thought before glancing. I'm googling around trying to read up, but would welcome recommendations and bullet points on the difference between the variously numbered bucks, if rifled slugs are compatible with my choice of shootgun, etc. I know I'm looking for 2-3/4 or 3", would prefer to stick to the smaller since I want to get as many shells in there at a time as I can.

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>>32557726
Is it a good idea to get a beavertail grip on my gen3 glock 19, which I'm also planning to CC?

Just bought a 2015 model ruger mini 14 ranch rifle. Got it at a gunshow for 675 barley used. Did I fuck up?

Since guns that use black powder aren't considered firearms in the US, does that mean it's legal to attach suppressors to them? If it's not, why? If it is legal, why don't we see tons of suppressors on the market for black powder guns? Do suppressors not work well on black powder guns for some reason (ie, maybe the gas expands too slowly/the bullets aren't supersonic anyway)?

>>32594063
I believe that suppressors are regulated as their own NFA item. It doesn't matter if you put it on a gun or not.

Secondly, black powder is probably way too dirty to get more than a few shots out with a suppressor before it becomes clogged with residue.

>>32594098
But airguns in the US often have suppressor or some kind of sound dampening on them (I think, I'm not sure. I don't own any airguns) right?

...Is it actually bad to release the slide on an empty chamber with the magazine in, or is that just a bunch of fuddlore?

>>32594157
Airgun suppressors are kind a legal gray area, not even the ATF wants to get involved in it. But here's what I found with some googling

>So, if a device can be REMOVED from an airgun and ATTACHED to a portable firearm and diminish its report, that device is then legally defined as a silencer

So, as long as the gun came from the factory with the suppressor, then it's fine. This works on airguns because they generally don't require too much cleaning.

However a black powder gun would need to have a removable suppressor so that the user can clean out all the gunk that would quickly accumulate. But by making the suppressor removable, it becomes an unregistered suppressor.

tl;dr its more trouble than it's worth to suppress black powder guns

>>32594180
No?

I inherited a break-action 12G probably worth only $25. It has no factory markings except the words "BARREL AND LUG FORGED ONE PIECE" near the breech. I was to clean it up and restore it but I am afraid of ruining it beyond repair. Marty Cheng, what do I do?

>>32588373
Move from New York man. What are you doing with your life there which is so important that you aren't willing to move to Vermont?

>>32594555
Disassemble, clean, reassemble. If it looks fucked (cracks, severe pitting, warping, etc.) buy a new one. If not then buy a box of shells and go to the range.

>>32594586
Alright, but with it being indeterminably old should I opt for anything special to clean with or stick with Hoppes #9?

>>32594598
Nope, Hoppes and elbow grease. Clean the barrel and inspect for pitting, cracks, and bulges. Brush/snake it out, put it back together, shoot paper. Easy as that. It was probably some old hardware store special you could get out of a barrel in the days before the ATF. Just don't shoot magnum rounds with it and to ensure barrel longevity I'd stick to lead only. Even if it is a modified or improved just to be on the safe side.

>>32594675
Alright, I'm going to play it safe and clamp it to a sawhorse and shoot it 5 times with normal loads 100 feet away before risking holding it in my arms and shooting it. But if it werks I'm gonna treat her nice and post about it in the future.

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I've wanted to ask Ian this for a while, but can't find a good video to comment on. If anyone has asked this question and Ian has answered it, could you link me to the video? Or maybe one of you supports him on patreon and can ask him there. Or maybe this has already been answered in detail by someone else.

Anyway, I want to know why heel (also called european? why?) mag releases on pistols became a thing and why it was decided as better than the button mag release.

Watching some of Ian's videos on early semi-auto pistols, I noticed that the world's first semi auto has a button mag release, as is found on modern guns. (The C83, pic related). Additionally, many other early semi-auto pistols have botton mag releases. It seems like the button mag release came first, and then for some reason the heel mag release became popular for a short time, and then died out.

So who pioneered the heel mag release? Was it really just a euro thing? Why did their pistol doctrine prefer the heel mag release? I've never shot a pistol with a heel release, so I can't say if it's better or worse, but it seems like having to use a second hand on the gun to change megs increases reload time and takes your attention away from looking down range. Is this wrong? Can any of you guys link me to a good explination or give me a rough breakdown of this topic?

>>32557919
Me. I will personally fuck you, if that's what you want.

How long do you like your range trips and how many rounds do you like to burn through? Do you just bring 1 or 2 of your guns or do you bring a set to rotate?

>>32594675
>>32594708
Well, she's got rust pitting here and ther everywhere down the barrel. Doesn't look remarkably deep but considering how much rust she bled when I pulled the snake out of her, I have a feeling she won't be operational.

>>32594977
The heel release is much easier to manufacture than the button. Earlier Browning pistols (i.e. 1900 and 1903) used heel releases. You'll notice nations devoted to making fast, cheap pistols will use heel releases (P38, Tokarev, Makarov)

>>32595539
But the Luger has a button mag release, as well as the Tokarev. But the service pistols that replaced both of those have heel mag releases (the P-38 and the Mak). So at some point it seems like nations wanted the button release, and then went with the heel release, and are now going back to the button. Is cost really the only factor in this? I can see cost being a factor when talking about civilian guns, since we always want the cheapest, newest thing, but the military would have some requirements and since they order on the large scale, the price difference would be negligible. Not that I think it costs much more for a button mag release than a heel release, a button release just needs a slightly different mechanism.

If this was the case when semi-auto pistols were first being developed, I could see it being a traditional thing. But it seems like the vast majority of removable magazine fed pistols had button mag releases and then after they were being phased out of service is when we see heel mag releases start popping up. Admittedly I might be wrong, but to my knowledge this is what happened.

Could it be combat doctrine in preserving mags? A button release means you can drop a mag very quickly and pop in a fresh one. A heel mag release forces your hand to be down by the empty mag being ejected, and thus forces you to do something with it (keep it or toss it on the ground). Does this factor into the desire for heel release mechanisms over button release mechanisms?

Do y'all niggas not use brake parts cleaner to clean your gats? That shit is magic.

Also, if I wanted to get a rifle for longish range shooting and hunting should I get it in .270 or 6.5 Creedmore?

>>32595644
Cost and ease of manufacture are basically the only reasons, sorry to say. In WWI and before Germans didn't really care about cost or complexity, they just wanted super nice guns. Nazi-era Germans gave less of a shit about ridiculously good quality and liked cheaper stuff. Nobody prefers a heel release to a button release, they're just not as easy for the soldier. But when you have costs to consider something as simple as that is usually first on the chopping block.
There's a reason basically every handmade Vietnamese and Chinese pistol uses a heel release.

>>32566080
It's pretty shit and pretty outdated.

Also
>"Do not post threads about gun control. They belong on /pol/. "

It's retarded, but also unenforced for the most part.

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What are those guns on the right

I wanted a USP as my first .45 but I finger fucked one at a gun show and I didn't like that it had a polymer lower and I hated the spikes on the front of the grips, really uncomfortable. Whats a good double stack .45 with a metal frame?