NVG thread

>>32554224
>/K/
By buying a better set of goggles.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/07/Night_vision.ogv

>>32554239
This. NV just has shitty POV. There have been some recent goggles that have ways around this. They cost more than a decent car, if you can even find a seller.

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>>32554224
The field of view is given by the lense and there is no way you can build in an other to your monocular.
The FOV is exactly the reason the guys in your pic walk arround with this 4-tubes-specialops-onely-nw. There are maybe some monoculars on the marked which wil give you a brother FOV but they will cost you a lot more. And the ones where you have one per eye like pic relatet will also have a price.
Tltr: deal with wath you have or take a lot of cash and buy something better

>you can get a set of Gen3 autogated PVS-7s for about $1500
Someone convince me not to.

>>32554550
Buying secondhand night vision is usually a bad idea. You have no clue if it was made by an actual company or some dude in his garage. Does the seller have the tube's paperwork?

>>32554224
so the NVG's in OP pic, are those really $40,000?

>>32554596
yes

devgru and probably delta uses them
iirc they only increase fov

>>32554606
Jup this

The with this branches the cost doesnt count

>>32554606
and how much of that $40,000 is actual tech and research and how much is just L3 jewing to maximum because of delicious government contract spending?

>>32554577
Sure, but there's no way I'm paying 5k+ for the same thing.

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>>32554669
$5k?
TNVC has them for $3,400. 2 year warranty, buying from a respected dealer, and can even finance it.
https://tnvc.com/shop/pvs-7b-gen3-litton-auto-gated/

>>32554224
best thing you can do with Gen1s is sell it off or shove it up your ass.

As someone who used this in the military, any civvie fucks who spend their entire shitty paycheck to buy NV are fucking stupid. I'd kick ur ass if I saw you with that shit. You dont need it or deserve it.

Recently bought Gen1+ because Ian senpai told me to. zero regrets.

>>32554865

Gen1 is really only useful behind an aimpoint or eotech, with an IR light on the weapon. There is too much distortion to actually walk any distance with it on your head. A pvs14 is like having a toilet paper tube over one eye only its green and u can see in the dark

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I have two pvs-14s right now, hope to buy some dank binocular housing soon.

>>32554887
>*autistic screeching*

>>32554901
gen 1 are like looking threw a straw.
if pvs 14s are like a toilet paper tube that is good money spent.

>>32554577
Are you retarded? Just a few companies in the world are capable of making tubes, how can someone make one in his garage?

>>32554887
>you don't deserve it
A true autist

>>32554887
>u don't deserve night vision REEEEEE CIVVIES GET OUT
>t. salty muhreen who has to turn his shit in at the end of deployment
Thank you for your cervix

>>32554917
How much have you payed for them?

>>32554928
Are there any limitations as to the FOV capability of Gen 1 image intensifiers?
To my knowledge Gen 1 is only an array of photocathode's and phosphor screens it says nothing about its wide angle capabilities.
To my knowledge there should not be impossible to just use some lenses to increase the FOV.
For instance, a big lens which focuses on the phosphor screen, much like that of the google glasses lenses, this wouldn't increase the devices field of vision, but rather give you the appearance of viewing through a larger tube.

>>32554975
About $3k each. Could've ended way cheaper but keep in mind i'm not in the states.

>>32554917
how much for one of them?

>>32554865
>>32554901
>>32554928

I had gen one monocular before and can attest that it barely gives any extra visibility without an IR flood.

>>32554995
where do you find 3000 monies to spend on military apparel?

>>32554995
Well i am also not from the states... 6k sounds about like what i would have payed here

>>32555015
6k you moron
Maybe he has a good earning job?

>>32555015
Have you tried getting out of your moms basement?

>>32554887
Civilians don't need guns like AR's and AK's, there's no use for ordinary civilians to own assault weapons.
I should know, I served in the military and I have been trained on gun usage. I agree on stricter gun control because I am an ex-veteran and I have more experience with firearms than any civilian who likes to play fantasy pretend.

>>32554550
You can also get in on a much superior gen 3 PVS-14 for not that much more

>>32554822
see above

>>32554654
I would imagine profit is fairly small on a device like that.

>>32555184
How is a pvs-14 much more superior to pvs-7? They are pretty much the same spec-wise.

>>32555184
Where can I get a PVS-14 for not that much more?

>>32554596
Yes, and they're not sold to the public.

>>32555213
Probably because of ITAR. I can imagine the nightmare at L-3 if they showed up in Syria or something.

>>32554224
srsly, why do you need nvg?

>>32555171
Former MP and you can play hide and go fuck yourself. What kind of ass useless career did you have to form such world views. You obviously never deployed anywhere violent paired with irredeemable government corruption to think what you do. Or you are a classic useful idiot. Or a decent troll. Whatever the case most actual vets would think you mistaken at best.

>>32555258
It's fun.

>>32555258
Shooting pigs at night.

>>32554224
Should've waited a bit longer.

http://soldiersystems.net/2017/01/06/n-vision-optics-announces-new-wide-field-of-view-pvs-15-night-vision-binocular/

>>32555258
Fun, nocturnal pest extermination (hog coyote racoon etc), stargazing (personally dont get it but apparently people do it), and a host of less 'legitimate' reasons

>>32555200

its not, PVS-14 has the benefit of not having both your eyes suffer the 'green eye' effect. it's not superior, it just makes more sense to use for the application of shooting. PVS-14 makes more sense for breach and entry, PVS-7 for maybe long range patrols.

>>32555289
>stargazing (personally dont get it but apparently people do it)
what the fuck

>>32555289
>stargazing (personally dont get it but apparently people do it)
It lets you see more stuff because it's sensitive down into the IR band.

>>32555301
sure, but you don't pay fucking $6k for it

>>32555318
I don't think that is the primary purpose for anyone's night vision, calm down. Even if it was, they can spend their thousands however they want.

>>32555339
Wouldn't have thought a casual mention of an oddball use I saw and heard of would be so perplexing. Honestly for me it is mostly id'ing trespassers and later surveiling their area

>>32555258
i bought mine saying pigs, but really its fucking awesome. I've killed several batteries just watching random nightlife in my backyard. that being said, mine was 180 bucks on sale.

>>32555395
Is it that ArmaSight Gen I thing?

>>32555423
yup. I bought the Inrange suggested one. I don't have any other experience with nightvision, but I am entertained by it. I got a head mount and j-arm off ebay for another 25 and its pretty easy to wear (I have an enormous head as well). You can use a reddot with it, but you need to have a high mount for it to work.

>>32555466
Great that you're enjoying it, I kind of want to pick one up for my friend to use. You'll be blown away if you ever decide to step up to Gen III NV.

>>32555171
>ex veteran

No dude, you're ex military. Not being in anymore is literally how we became veterans.

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>>32554224
to answer OP

no to all asked

>>32555213
public can buy those just fine. If you've got the money that its.

>>32555233
ITAR has nothing to do with sales inside the USA. ITAR restricts the transfer of information and the item across borders and covers a whole hell of a lot of stuff ranging from ar15 magazines to beyond.

>>32555484
Thanks! I'll need to wait for sub 1k gen 3 (if that ever happens). I just don't have the funds to put that much into a recreational piece of gear.

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>>32555552
It will never happen, at least imho

The process to make Image intensifier tubes costs a shit load of money and isnt easily done.

>>32555552
With you on that. I just hope some of the digital advances drive down costs at some point

>>32555511
checked and trolled he could only write something so idiotic if he knew what hes was talking about and intentionally screwed stuff up
>>32555265
about how fast was he trolling you officer
>>32554962
cervix kek ill be using that
>>32554928
>>32554953
just a troll

>>32555547
I know exactly what ITAR is. They don't want the RISK that someone will export it illegally, because then they'll get some fines and some questions being that it's super operator tech.

>>32555725
About tree fiddy I just like seeing how it plays out

>>32555552
You'll probably see cheap high quality FLIR before cheap, high quality image intensifiers.

>>32555770
You think they would? I mean the technology behind the gpnvg is not rocket science at all, just a bit more complicated than a pvs-14.

>>32555785
Literally every major defense or defense involved company has been fined significant amounts under ITAR. Boeing, Lockheed, L-3, Raytheon, etc. NV is one of those things that they really don't like getting out, even manuals have gotten people fined.

>>32554932
Only a few companies make tubes but tons of companies make goggles. Including dudes in their garage. You can buy just tubes. Surplus and seconds are cheap. This is why you demand to see paperwork.

>>32555184
Exactly. 14s are cheaper and better.

>>32555547
Not really. Manufacture says .gov sales only and holds dealers to that. No law against owning it, but good luck getting one.

>>32555776
I am ok with this

>>32555872
FLIR is good but it can't replace night vision.

>>32554822
Oh yeah, totally worth paying double.
>>32555184
Personally I like binoc rather than mono, even if it shares one tube.

>>32555882
Digital is still the future, analog night vision will die pretty soon.

>>32555900
Sure, for 300,000 a pop.

>>32555900
Digital is not an antithesis to night vision.

>>32555938
ikr

>>32555899
>there is zero risk in buying undocumented night vision from strangers

>>32555931
Not really, just imagine this combined with flir. Could be done for like $10-20k i think.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5ZQd11z_3Q

>>32555983
There's very low to none risk if you know the stuff.

>>32555298
You can see thousands more stars with NVGs than the naked eye. Many stars output too little light to be picked up by your eyes, especially when coupled with light pollution and atmospheric conditions.

>>32555171

Water hoses should be banned unless you are a fireman
Bicycles should be banned unless you are a child
And dogs should be banned for anyone not blind or herding cattle/sheep

>>32555547

unless you are the state department shipping crates of equipment to ISIS or running guns to drug cartels

Basically its illegal to export things unless you are the government and exporting it to someone who will really do harm

>>32555983
ebay isn't as shady as it used to be ten years ago.

>>32556255
Not just dimly lit, but stars whose light is now only in the infrared spectrum can be seen.

>>32554887

Shut the FUCK up, welfare queen.

>>32556628
Yes, that's true. I wonder how often ITAR fucks over purchase contracts already in place because the list of countries and groups the government likes changes every week.

>>32555289
all the dirty rat animals come out at night

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>>32556890
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqKUMl6VLJA

>>32555200
>>32555294
The PVS-14 is markedly better. For one thing it's nearly half the weight. That means a lot when it's on your head.

The night vision FOV is about the same, so the PVS-14 "only" being a monocular doesn't mean the actual view through the device is any less than the PVS-7.

The fact that the PVS-14 is only over one eye allows easier weapon shouldering without the night vision accidentally bumping into the weapon. It also allows you to retain your white light vision without having to touch anything. You can go from being outside with nightvision to being inside using white light clearing rooms seamlessly.

In a transitional time of the day, you can use your optic for aiming while the night vision allows navigation.

>PVS-7 for maybe long range patrols.
Heavier and it offers no benefits over the PVS-14. The PVS-7 is simply put inferior.

Operational often operators use nightvision covering both their eyes, but that's because they are using dual (or quad) tubes giving them better night vision FOV. There is actually a benefit to them bering heavier (even so the ANVIS-9s are still lighter than PVS-7s).