Embarrassing.

hello americuck

>>32549313
wrong hemisphere

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>>32549265
a little late to the party

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>>32549265
Modern piece of Russian equipment being towed by old Soviet equipment. How can one image tell you so much about a country?

>>32549265
>Remember that one time the new tank broke down?
>That means it's complete shit and we should never have brought it!
I still don't understand this meme.

>>32549265
They have 2 hand brakes.

The inexperienced driver engaged the secondary mechanical handbrake that can not be removed by the crew, if I remember correctly.

>>32553883


It's called Mountain Brake. It ran on its own after some engineers disengaged it.

But that won't stop others from saying it's fake news and that what really happened was that there are little wheels below the tank that drove it forward.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dapk4-vMQOM

>>32549265

T-14 in a nutshell

>let's make an armored behemoth!
>which can be mission killed by a Bradley from the front 100 percent of the time with a simple burst of 25mm APFSDS across the turret, from the FRONT

>>32553940
Yeah... any tank can be "mission killed" by a 25mm cannon

>>32552041
Or
>ATGM kills some tank somewhere like it's supposed to under certain conditions
>TOTAL SHITTTTT
Vatniks and fatniks are cancer killing this board, plus butthurt belters.

So then it's one of these according to vats

>crew is retarded and poorly trained
>vehicle has a brake that cannot be undone by the crew

And to top it off, the recovery vehicle that's meant to pull these things out of mud, ditches or if damaged simply doesn't have the power to move it unless with the assistance of the vehicle it's towing.

Embarrassing.

>but..but... the turret ejects in critical conditions and transforms into the highly promised PAK FA comrade!

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It's like the F-35, no matter what Lockheed says or the military says, it won't matter because the public already knows they are lemons.

>>32554214

>crew is retarded and poorly trained
There is no official 'military' crew, the prototypes were driven straight from the factory, UVZ wanted their engineers to drive it during the parade but MoD says that the military should drive during the military parade. There are other failures during the parade such as the T-15 evacuator fail that are blamed on conscripts not fully trained on the new vehicles and are used to drive on older vehicles.

>vehicle has a brake that cannot be undone by the crew

Yes, because of poorly trained conscripts.

>And to top it off, the recovery vehicle that's meant to pull these things out of mud, ditches or if damaged simply doesn't have the power to move it unless with the assistance of the vehicle it's towing.
>simply doesn't have the power to move it
>vehicle has a brake that cannot be undone by the crew
>Cannot move it
>Because the brakes are on

Boy your dumb.

>>32553940
How about no

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>>32554180
>butthurt belt
Rude

>>32554268
vatnik pls go and stay go

>>32549265
Now that almost 2 years passed since it's debute.... Where the fuck is it? Any news about the program?

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>>32549265
T-14 "HOMOERATA" will never enter production.

In 100 years Russia will be fielding T-72 chassis covered in 10t of explosives

>>32554272

Look at the turret. It has zero armor.

>>32554069

From the front?

T-14 has its sight (no backup irons) in an unarmored shell.

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>>32554350
>will never enter production.

You guys are all so gay, it's embarrassing

>>32554360
Man, the Russian infrastructure looks appalling

>>32554180

As much as I hate vatniks and fatniks, chincom scum is by far the worst dick measuring delusional shitposters about.

>>32554360
You could hide a body in those pot holes. Russia is a joke.

>>32554353
>unarmored sights
So just like any modern tank?

>>32554360
It's a shame Russians are reverting to plain green color scheme on their vehicles. As a model builder I find then uninteresting.

>>32554368
Good thing it doesn't matter what it looks like.

>>32554400
It tells a lot about their funding

>>32554400
>this is what vatniks actually believe
Yeah which is why so many First World nations run to Russia when they need arms right?

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>>32554390
They need to learn from Czech.

>>32550348
The soviet union was god-tier, especially in retrospect when you realize that it was the largest white nationalist ethnostate that the modern world has ever known.

>>32554268
>Cannot move it
>Because the brakes are on

How's it supposed to overcome a vehicle being stuck in the mud, having battle damage, stuck in a ditch, etc, etc any of the myriad of ways that a vehicle becomes immobile, if it can't even move the vehicle it's supposed to tow when it has the brakes on?

>>32554390
That's just the out of box parade colors. The in field variation will likely look a lot different.

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>>32554461

>>32554471
>he's right you know

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>>32554368
Russia is "perfection is the enemy of the good enough" personified, and it's likely why they get by far the biggest bang for their buck in terms of defense spending v. actual capabilities.

Just look at how disgustingly third world looking their shipyards are and realize that despite how gross and half-assed their naval infrastructure is, they're still able to crank out some of the best subs on the planet.

>>32554461
>white nationalist ethnostate
Soviet run through "multiculturalism and tolerance" phase in 20th. Gender equality, religious freedom (for muslims, not for christians) and race equality. Culturally, they were about 50-70 years ahead of Western societies.
And for ethnostate - Stalin was fucking Georgian.

>>32554495
That shipyard looks fine

>>32554471
The final redpill is realizing that there's nothing wrong whatsoever with socialism, collectivism, and central planning when it is implemented within a high-IQ, ethnically homogeneous population.

Sweden was god-tier before multiculturalism, as was Russia from the 60s to the 80s, and as is China today.

Socialism + human biodiversity = disaster
Capitalism + human biodiversity = Apartheid

What's the common thread? Ideology is irrelevant to a nation's success. Demographics are all that matters.

>>32554508
>that
>fine

>>32554495
>third world looking
Actually, it's about findings. They need to spend A LOT for heating. Infrastructure in general are more expensive there. That's why there is not enough money for cosmetic things. They think that it's better to buy a new gas boiler instead of paint.

>>32554521
>le redpill maymay
:^)

>>32554521
>has never lived in the Soviet union
>hurr it was fine, guise

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>>32554508
>Rust and dirt everywhere
>Scaffolding haphazardly made out of nigger-tier 2x4s
>Looks fine

I don't think that's how it works, m8

Honestly though, the grodiness of their facilities makes me that much more respectful of what they are and were able to build in them.

>>32554533
At least they don't have to get approval from 15 government departments to order some nuts and bolts like us poor fucks in the "first world"

>>32554527
They should use that same logic to fix their navy.

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>>32554353
The Armata's GPS Isn't likely to be much better or worse than most other tanks are.

>T-14 has its sight (no backup irons) in an unarmored shell.
>(no backup irons)
>backup irons
Lolwut?
I don't think I've ever seen a modern tank with any form of iron sights for the gunner and I don't think you have either.

>>32554557
some IFV's have them but yeah thats not a thing on tanks. unless he means analogue sights like t-72/m-60 etc?

>>32554466
their t-90A's are solid green. you never know, camo might be applied in the field like germans did with their tanks in ww2

>>32554557

Gunner's Auxiliary Sights are often referred to irons

Armata just has the GPS. So, as soon as it's hit, and it will be, it's out of the fight.

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>>32554466
All their new vehicles are painted green. Can't find the source right now but iirc it was a decission made back in 2012. Thought there was a Russian TV report about a Kurganetz-25 with camo

>>32554568
the only IFV with "iron-sights" i can think of is the bradley, and those sights are for shooting at helicopters

>>32554376

The difference being the T-14 has them near the center of an unarmored shell without any auxiliary sight.

You'll have to shoot at the roof of an M1 to knock out its GPS, and if you do, it can still shoot you with WW2-era gunnery, which works well enough.

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>>32554602

Here's an example of where you'd want your GPS

It still lacks an auxiliary sight, though.

>>32554521
>>32554471
>>32554461
Go live in North Korea, that's a nationalistic communist ethnostate, I'm sure it'll be great.

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>>32554586
Depending on how the tank's sensor fusion works, the gunner should be able to use the CITV, the driver's FLIR and the panoramic cameras as backup sights without losing as much gunnery capability as using a GAS would entail.

>>32554602
>it can still shoot you with WW2-era gunnery, which works well enough.
Are there any recorded instances of anyone using the GAS at all in combat?

>>32554693
A brad used its aux sight in desert storm for some reason i forgot, saw it on a documentary.

They still train on it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGV33AL5v8U

>>32554693
>Are there any recorded instances of anyone using the GAS at all in combat?

In Korea and WWII there were a number of instances where looking straight through the tube were used in order to maximize hull down positions.

>>32554693

>depending on

That's the main thing. I don't know how you'd go about making it work with the driver's sight simply because you know, you going to want to drive and shoot.

M1s haven't needed to as the GPS hasn't gone down. The only instance I recall was the RPG-29 to the right turret that disabled the GPS.

>>32554728
>A brad used its aux sight in desert storm
I wouldn't be surprised.
But from the way people talk in threads about the Armata you'd think the GAS sees regular enough use that to not have one is a crippling defect rather than something that simply comes in handy now and then.

>>32554736
GAS's are definitely useful for checking whether the barrel has a clear LOS past obstructions.
But during the Korean war, as far as I know, the primary sight for US tanks were all telescopes.

>>32554780
>because you know, you going to want to drive and shoot.
I don't mean anything like commandeering the driver's sight, only that it might be linked into the tank's panoramic camera system, so that the driver would be using as normal while at the same time the driver's FLIR would be supplying image data to the gunner.

>>32554674
>DPRK
>communist

Pick one. Juche is a retarded mongoloid hybrid of politics, religion and ancestor worship. The one thing it is not in any way, shape or form is communism.

>>32554919
>T..true communism has never been tried guise!
kys

>>32554925
I never said that. But if you want to at least pretend to have any sort of intellectual honesty you can't call the system in Best Korea communism. It just.. isn't.

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>>32554214
>>32554463
>This particular idiot
Oh god.

>>32554375
Potholes are only relevant to vehicles they interfere with. Russia, like the US, is enormous and paving everything well for no reason is retardedly expensive.

Turns out the Armata is a propaganda mock up, who knew?

Aside from everyone.

>>32554461
>soviet union was god-tier,

Which is why they had to build the Berlin Wall and shoot people who tried to leave, and despite that people still tried to leave. The Warsaw Pact was such an oppressive shithole that much of it joined NATO to protect itself from being invaded again.

>>32554463
I was thinking the same thing. A transmission failure could easily jam the tracks in the same way that the brake did.

You'd think the Ruskies would've learned from watching the Germans have to abandon stuck Tigers, but I guess that was 70 years ago and there have been plenty of other lessons forgotten all around the world too.

>>32554602
I would love to see the after action report of someone attempting to use an IFV to engage an MBT.

>>32554505
>I don't know shit about Soviet Union: the post

>>32554980
>recovery vehicle can't move another vehicle
>because it has its brakes on

explain to me how a recovery vehicle is supposed to do its job if it can't recover an immobile vehicle?

>>32555014
>Soviet Union
>DDR
>Berlin Wall

You may pick two. Note that not all variations can be correct.

>>32555084
>implying the USSR didn't control the DDR

>being this retarded

>>32555010
kek

>>32555078
the original excuse was it was a new driver in training but who the fuck would let a driver in training drive their show pony during their victory day parade and how did putting the brakes on fuck up the vehicle so badly that he couldn't just take the brakes off and keep going? just say it was a transmission failure (new vehicle new shit)

>>32555090
USSR didn't really control their satellites after Stalin, at least not as much as common idiot (you) believes.
They installed commie regimes there after WW2 and these had the interest of preserving themselves.
Note how they refused to intervene in Poland for example, despite Polish government asking them to do it.
As for interventions in CS and Hungary, that's not really that different from what USA did.
And before you sperg out, I'm not a Soviet apologist or communist, but reality was different from what you believe.

>>32555114
>Note how they refused to intervene in Poland for example, despite Polish government asking them to do it

When, exactly?
And please do not make a bigger retard of yourself, blabbing something about 1981.

>>32554521
Kill yourself

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>>32555078
Because the brakes are specifically made to prevent a vehicle from moving, idiot. These recovery vehicles can move entire fucking submarines on the ground.

>>32555105
It was a repetition of the parade, not the parade and it drove away by itself.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dapk4-vMQOM

>ITT: people who like AKs and think T-64s are neat romanticizing life in the USSR


kill yourselves

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>>32555229
>ITT: anon who dislikes AK and thinks T-64s are not neat focuses on /pol crap
Off to /pol with you.

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>>32555196
but not a vehicle that has it's brakes on... When it's supposed to be able to move those same vehicles when they're stuck and immobile, unable to move otherwise.

>>32554461
*ANGRY COMMUNIST NOISES*

>>32555309
That's because there is a huge difference between a stuck or immobile vehicle lacking ability to move by its own and a vehicle with its fucking brakes on. Try to push a car on neutral. Then try the same while it's on hand brake. Even if a car is stuck or doesn't start no one fucking ever puts it on hand brake. Because brakes are made to set a vehicle borderline impossible to move. Jesus fucking Christ, have you ever left your trailer?

>>32555271
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>>32555345
>implying that there's no chance of its wheels won't be locked on the battlefield from battle damage or anything else

If it doesn't have the ability to move something when it's brakes are on, how is it going to lift and pull something actively tugging against it like mud and gravity?

>>32555367
Because unlike mud and gravity, brakes are physically blocking it from moving, retard.
>Implying implications
No one has ever done that, at least not this way. It was easier to bomb a stuck Abrams than to move it.

>>32554350
>T-14 "HOMOERATA"
underrated

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>>32555394
>no one has ever returned a vehicle that's incapable of moving to working condition
>it's easier to just destroy a multi million dollar vehicle than repair it just because it's brakes are stuck or its locomotion is broken

You're really stretching to come up with reasons as to why it's acceptable for a recovery vehicle to not be able to do its sole function.

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>>32555437
There's a difference between being incapable of moving on your own and having brakes on that specifically prevent you from moving, imbecile.

>>32555522
Can you really not even fathom the idea of a vehicles traction being impeded and not being able to move at all?

How are you supposed to recover a vehicle then if your own recovery vehicles are so underpowered that they can't move it?

This is just getting pathetic all this deflection you're desperately trying to do.

>>32555570
Can you really not even fathom the idea of a vehicle on fucking brakes being immobile, retard? how are you supposed to build an argument around a recovery vehicle being underpowered while it moves an entire fucking submarine? This is just getting pathetic all this deflection you're desperately trying to do.

>>32555616
>trying to copypasta

The death rattle of the vatnik

>>32555628
>Being incapable to comprehend the concept of brakes and ignoring the argument
The damage control of an imbecile fatnik.

>>32555711
>fatnik

Not even vaguely close, but that's cute.

>>32555437
>You're really stretching to come up with reasons as to why it's acceptable for a recovery vehicle to not be able to do its sole function.
Plenty of reasons. He's just a moron. Complete lack of knowledge on the vehicle being recovered, where should I pull, what's safe, what minimizes damage on this multi million dollar vehicle, what about risk to the crowd, should I wait for qualified persons and who are they, how much does it actually weight, is my equipment rated foe it, etc etc.

Anyone who's moved heavy equipment would know this.

>>32555744
All of those are completely reasonable. Instead we got MUH BRAKES

>>32555051

But anon, if a T-14 is coming at an IFV and they both shoot at each other; they both end up disabled.

The T-14 will shoot through the IFV and the IFV will shoot through the T-14's turret (disabling it).

>>32555051

M2s disabled killed plenty of MBTs in Iraq with side and rear shots. T-72s fell to side and rear turret hits. APFSDS isn't a joke in even small cannons.

1 even killed a friendly M1 by accident by shooting it in the rear.

>>32555744
Now post anything relevant to his retarded argument that recovery vehicles is "underpowered".
>>32555768
Np, instead we got a retard that is incapable of comprehending the concept of brakes.

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>>32555786
>IFV will shoot through the T-14's turret (disabling it)

>>32554461
Collapsed due to the fact that they couldn't fix their economy or stop their standards of living declining. It had like 20-30 genuinely good years.

>>32554919
It has an almost identical cult of personality to the one that existed in the Soviet Union throughout Stalin's reign.

>>32555866
It collapsed because a bunch of criminals signed Belavezha accords instead of listening to the will of the people, preserving the state and fixing its economy.

>>32554461
>white nationalist ethnostate
Wow. 'You know nothing' wouldn't even come close to express it.

>>32555847
>>32555807
>>32555051

Most IFVs, M2 Bradleys included, have ATGMs that can fuck a tank up. I'm not sure about a T-14 getting front-penned by a TOW, but it will get side penned.

>>32555943
Not a modern tank from the front. Any modern tank from the sides or back.

>>32555814
>brakes = cannot move anything ever

they should add brakes to everything, that'd be a good way of stopping earthquakes, it'd also be great for tank barriers, just put brakes on them and nothing can get through.

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>>32555114
>Note how they refused to intervene in Poland for example, despite Polish government asking them to do it.
Hahahahaahha, this is what dumb soviet worshippers think, Jaruzelski declared martial law to prevent the Soviets from invading Poland.

>>32554941
It is though.

>>32554941
State as representative of the people distributes the fruits of labor, but the people in charge receive a disproportionate amount. Yeah not like the Soviet Union at all.

>>32556591
They all got black lung.

>>32556195
Man, if it's so hard to move things because they have brakes, it must be impossible to move something if it's tracks are blown off!

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>>32554214
Just like the Americucks with the Abrams

>tank is crewed by sand niggers
or
>MUH MONKEY MODEL WITH NO DU PLATES!!!!

>>32558201
Monkey model is a universal meme used by idiots who think a tank is worthless if it isn't indestructible.

>>32554375
Its nothing compared to Bosnia.
You're still digging up your dead among minefields

>>32558382
>it's nothing compared to Bosnia
Fuck you're right. My village has a smooth paved road with absolutely no pot holes. If we can do it in my poor ass region then Russians have no excuse other than being drunk retards.

>>32554268
>shitting on the F-35, a good plane

You have exposed yourself.

>>32554268
the majority of the public doesn't know anything and they should not meddle in military procurement

>>32554521
Trolling is a art

And that was beautiful

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>>32554980
Why are they dragging a sub across land?

>>32554461
>largest white nationalist ethnostate
kys, you glue huffing retard

>>32560693
Even more stealthy, does not show up on sonar.

>>32554665
muh dick

>>32554925

Actually, NK removed any mention of Communism long ago. Everything is Juche now.

>brakes suddenly make things impossible to move

i can't even