There is literally nothing wrong with an L85
>>32546363
But das a bilpap. Bilpap a maymay, u kno?
>>32546363
Assuming A2
Pros
-Shorter overall length because of bull-pup design
-better at Urban Combat because able to swing the gun around easier in CQC
Cons
- Shorter Overall length makes it bayonet fighting harder.
- Awkward compared to other rifles.
- Terrible gun at current situations (fighting in afghan mountains) like most rifles in NATO
L129A1 Should become standard issue for BAF desu.
>>32546429
Das a maymay 2, u kno?
>>32546440
ebin meemm broseph
>5.56
You are like tiny baby.
>>32546363
Heavy.
It's too heavy for what it is.
>>32546363
It's fucking heavy, it can't be used ambidextrously even in a pinch because it'll knock your fucking teeth out (guess the brits wouldn't have an issue). The 20 inch barrel is overkill for newer 5.56 cartridges.
Besides that, it's okay.
LOL You bloody degenerate first edition SA80 only fired once a burst of 5 trigger pulls. You're knobhead mate.
As is said in every thread, it's not as heavy as it used to be and it's known as very reliable these days. Always was accurate. New rails, mags and sights were a big upgrade (and reduced weight further). It tucks nicely in to sprint with and aim with.
Still falls down on ease of cleaning though. Classic and oft repeated true fact, always try to take a Murricans cleaning kit if you can. Whether he's aware or not is optional. And for lefties it can be awkward at first until you've had a lot of time with it, for obvious reasons.
But of course this threads gonna go to shit in a second, so I'm just gonna use this as an excuse for a great picture instead.
>>32546530
>it can't be used ambidextrously even in a pinch
It's not something you'd use as a leftie, but it certainly can fire leftie in a pinch to work corners. As demonstrated.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7XTXdLf3_o
>>32546429
The L129A1 is fine as one per fire team. Just because of a decade in rural Afghanistan doesn't mean that the original reasons for the move to a 5.56x45 are no longer valid. Though, it does mean that havingsuch a variety of linked and unlinked cartridges for a platoon is undermining the logistics advantages.
>>32546500
>be lefthanded
>shoot g3 bullpup
>brass knocks out one tooth at a time
Which is best for CQB, Urban Warfare, rappelling + entry?
>L129A1
>HK416
>L85
>>32547495
>solution
Dont be a special snowflake
>>32546429
>Shorter Overall length makes it bayonet fighting harder
When was the last time bayonets were used as anything more than a knife?
>Awkward compared to other rifles
All new designs are awkward, especially if they require a vastly different manual of arms. This is just saying "its different, I don't like it"
>>32546363
What's wrong with that SA80 in OPs picutre
there's something really wrong with it but I can't put my finger on it
>>32549693
Nevermind, I figured it out. It's the rubber civvie training variant.
>>32549693
Nothing wrong with it, It's the A1 version though, which was most definitely a pile of crap
>>32551068
Jesus, what is that? Is that a custom non bullpup version?
>>32551111
It's photoshopped...
>>32547569
the answer is obvious
>>32547495
Then shoot it right handed
>>32551290
not really a good option if you're left eye dominant.
>>32551068
You forgot to extend the barrel to hilarious proportions.
>>32547569
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