Is this the best full size, double stack .45 currently on the

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>>32534874
Yes
Though G41 is pretty good too

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>>32534886
Does it usurp the OG though?

>>32534886
mmm pretty

>>32534874
I shot the fnx 45 tac and I'm dead set on getting it as my next gun. My buddy had that and a vp9 and it blew the vp9 out of the water in every way. Obviously apples to oranges but still point is its a nice fucking gun

>>32534898
I don't think anything does, honestly.

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>>32534898
>Proper mag capacity for size
>Takes modern lights
>Can get a holster for it with a light on it
>Literally pioneered mrds on production pistols

It unseats the HK fairly handily.

>plastic frame
>best in anything

>>32534898
The one thing I rarely hear people mention about the Mk. 23 is how huge it is. We're talking like. Borderline Desert Eagle here. Which I think is a mark against it.

FNX comes in smaller, and is insanely modular right out of the box. I think it's the definitive .45 pistol of this time.

>>32534980
what a delicious meme :^)

>>32534984
>you rarely hear about the mk23's size
Isn't there a meme about it being the world's only crew served handgun?

>>32534874
When it comes to Mean Rounds Between Failure the HK45 is on top followed by the S&W M&P45, with the USP45 and FNX45 trailing just behind. The G21 is below the rest by a farther margin, but it still beats out basically all of the metal framed double stack .45's, including SiG's P227 by a large margin.

TLDR the FNX is just as capable as the USP45, and it beats the M&P and HK45 in mag capacity and a whole host of other features. It's a tremendous value.

>>32534927
VP9/40 is HK's foray into cheaper mass produced striker fired guns - they want a piece of that police market back. That said I expect HK will start rolling out with models tricked out with optics cutouts and threaded barrels in different colors do to the resounding success of the FNX

>>32534980
There isn't a metal framed double stack that comes anywhere close in reliability to even the G21, which is lower on the totem pole.

I mean if you must go metal the P227 is viable, although for the money I would shoot higher for a STI

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>>32534984

>>32534874

The FNX-45s suffer from a number of issues in small batches or isolated cases that get resolved by FN over time. Most of what I've personally seen is magazine or mag catch related (at least after they addressed the trigger pins). Another issue, and the one that prevents me from buying one still, is that detail stripping the frame involves pretty much destroying a part and bending the frame. There's a proprietary tool that FN uses to service the frame but they don't sell it, so basically it's not meant to be user serviceable.

The USP has been around forever and has a reputation the FNX hasn't had time to earn yet. Give it another 5 years.

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Yep. It's an amazing handgun.

>>32535066
Not to mention, the FNX is cheaper than the HK

>>32535171

The FNX and USP tactical versions in .45 hover around the same price. You lose a lot more value downgrading from the tactical model to the regular model with the FNX series than you do with the USP, for what it's worth.

>>32534984
>The one thing I rarely hear people mention about the Mk. 23 is how huge it is

It's mentioned literally every time the gun is brought up. It's become a meme.

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>>32534943
B-but m-m-muh solid snake!

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>>32535226
I'm glorious PC gaming masterrace, wouldn't know.
My favorite game from youth would be alpha centauri, and I would totally love an orbital instable gravtank with a singularity gun. I can kinda get it, if HK updated the mk23 it would be great, but HK doesn't do updates.

>>32535171
I think the sand colored Frame/Slide full sized HK45 looks like shit, the base model HK45 is in the same ballpark, the Threaded model costs more.
That said I think the threaded barrel sand frame, black slide HK45C is CUTE and would be great with an optics cutout and a full sized mag.

Also Walther is new to the game with the .45 PPQ M2, I expect it to be an ergonomics masterpiece like the M&P45

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Has anyone made higher capacity mags for the HK Mk23?

>>32535288
Metal Gear: Solid was a PC release you fucking mong. Don't call yourself Master race if you never even played SWAT 2

>>32534874
FN said no .45 super through the gun which is disappointing and as far as I know there is no aftermarket support for shooting super

>>32535345
There were mag extensions made

>>32535358
>RTS
Not my bag. More of a MOO2, AC, shogo mad, MechWar2 fan from back in the day.

>>32535421
https://www.efkfiredragon.com/fnp-and-five-seven.html

Does .40 super count?

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>>32535358
MGS was a PSX release with remasters on GameCube and possibly PS2/PS3 360 (whichever got the HD remake edition).

>>32535438
Mah nigga

>>32535288
>HK responding to civillian customer input and market trends
Lul.
Give FN like 10 years and they will effectively dethrone HK.

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A USP with .45 Super

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>>32534874
No.

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>>32535164
>is that detail stripping the frame involves pretty much destroying a part and bending the frame

elaborate please.

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>>32535714
HK has rabid fanboys
They will still be around.

>>32535717
Anemic mag capacity, need adapter for good modern lights, which leads to holster issues, needs to be cut for mrds

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>>32535924

>need adapter for modern lights
>muh mdrs
>holsters not already made for lights+adaptors

Someone doesn't own a USP

>>32535941
I dont own a USP.
Didn't know holsters were out there, stand corrected.
Though the light in your pic is..... Less than desirable

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>>32535941
>tfw p01 is the best of the 3
>tfw i have a p01

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>>32535966

I use it for HD, plus there's nothing wrong with Streamlight despite what gear queers will tell you.

>>32536050

It's the worst out of the three

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>>32535966
Not the guy you replied to, but I don't carry my USP. I have a holster that will fit it on my battle belt but it's not part of my edc. I also have an IWB holster for it without the light but that's another story.

But I do wish I could get a holster for my USP with the TLR and my light mount. I like the mount a lot when I take the light off, it looks better than the GG&G mount.

>>32536161
>It's the worst out of the three
Have you had problems with it? I talked to you a while back about how we have similar taste. That was going to be my next gun.

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>>32536219

Oh no not at all, I love it. I'm just saying it's not on the level of the USP series, which is fine. I carry the P01, the USP45 compact, and once in a while the PPK.

>>32536232
Okay cool. The P-01 is next but I also want a USPc .45. I tried the HK 45c but I'm too big of a fan of the USP grips. That was my first pistol so it's what I'm comfortable with.

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>>32536306

Ha, that's actually how I felt when I tried the HK45 series. The USPs just fit me too well.

To all the FNX guys here, not trying to shit on your platform. I love FN and really was really excited for a 15+1 suppressed. 45, just didn't fit me in the end though. I tried it out at a local title II manufacturer, didn't care for the grips or the weird ball on the bottom of the mags. Seemed to shoot pretty well though and by all accounts it's a fantastic pistol, just didn't fit me though.

>>32536394
One size does not fit all

You have to have at least 15 rounds for a double stack pistol

10 rounds is a joke, 12 rounds is passable as a range toy, but the fnx is the ONLY option right now for a double stack .45

>>32535924
They'll definitely still be around, but unless they start changing things up they'll eventually lose traction in the civillain market. Because let's face it, they only really care about their military and police contracts. They'll continue to come up with the cool toys for military contracts and they'll trickle out a handgun or two every few years for us commonfolk.

Meanwhile you'll have FN cranking out all sorts of shit for the civillian market at competitive prices. They'll innovate and they'll sell more guns despite HK's cult following.

>>32536394
USP grips are /comfy/. Haven't held an FNX before though so Idk how they compare.

>>32536445
I didn't like them. I was willing to sacrifice, but they felt blocky and they're just long. You could make 15 round USP mags that extend below the grip but keep the same ergonomics. Imagine an uzi but the grips go down to the bottom of a 30 round mag. That's the FN.

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>>32536405

Indeed.

>>32536445

My buddy has the compact 9mm version, I liked it enough. Right now I'm more concerned with longarm though, besides helping my gf pick out a CC piece.

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>>32536520
Not so much

>>32537100
God damn damn I love thicc guns

>>32535745

The safety/decocker lever is pressed on. Only way to remove it is to break the thing. FN uses a special press to assemble them.

To get the locking block out you have to literally bend the frame open around it.

>>32536409

All .45s are range toys. Welcome to 2017.

>>32537319
Here's your (you)

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Is there love for the Para Expert 14.45?

>>32534874
FN makes the best everything in every category except shotguns and precision rifles.

You want the best rifle? SCAR or FN15. You want a heavier hitting rifle? SCAR H. You want a PDW? P90. You want a striker handgun? FNS. You want a thicc handgun? FNX45. You want ultimate tacticool? FiveseveN. You want to destroy everything in your path? M249 SAW.

Many militaries agree FN a best.

>>32534980
Metal shit cracks due to wear sooner than plastic, and typically it's more expensive so plastic would be easier to replace (if it's like that new SIG monstrosity you can replace the frame without paperwork). Plus no rust and it's lighter. I see no benefit to metal handguns anymore. Metal mags however are very beneficial, I dislike Glocks for this reason. Something as vital as loading shouldn't be plastic on plastic due to it becoming difficult once dirt/mud is involved.

>>32538633

It really is too bad about the SCAR 17's poor availability stateside. There's got to be just this perfect storm of negligent mismanagement and bureaucratic incompetence going on behind the scenes. Or maybe they just don't give a fuck after fulfilling their military contracts. Has the mk20 ssr even been released? How long has the 17 been out and they STILL can't figure out how to get these into the country reliably?

Don't worry though because they've got plenty of $1800 semi-auto M16s for you!

>>32538449

Para is dead. Their website was down for months, and while they are back for a bit the plan is to move "some" of the offerings to the Remington brand. Which means fuck you customers who want support.

>>32538876
If they keep supply low with high demand people will keep buying scars, its a marketing scheme friend

>>32538876
SCAR 17 pricing is back down to like $2850

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>>32534874
yes

>>32534874
I don't like it, or many FN products at all.
If you can shoot it well, it is best for you.

>>32534886
Ah, Sedona. Great place for hiking.

How do yall feel about the Walther PPQ M2 in 45?

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>>32535046
Yes.

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>>32534874
Stey...Oh, wait. They don't make a .45

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>>32535697
It had a PC version.

It plays great even on Windows 10, and can recognize a 360 controller with no modification at all.

MGS 3 Substance also got a PC release.

>>32541674
What the fuck is that webm from?

>they still haven't put out an FNX-9 tactical

>>32534874
Mine has yet to have a single malfunction.

>>32535924
Is this from a calendar or something?

>>32534874
>>inb4 squishy squishy
I don't even give a fuck. I think they are sex and one day I will have one

>>32534898
Unless I somehow end up with one of these big bitches

>>32542679
>accepting 12 round magazines....
its not a compact.

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>>32534898
>look for USP's on gunbroker
>90% of them are compacts

>>32541802
>lets get a shitty house and get 30 gallons of two part foam
>then light it on fire
>sounds like fun

>>32534984
>The one thing I rarely hear people mention about the Mk. 23 is how huge it is. We're talking like. Borderline Desert Eagle here. Which I think is a mark against it.


Normally yes, but its the MK.23 and if I had the chance to have such an obnoxiously large pistol, I'd take it.

>>32542862
Yeah, none of them have the awesome dual recoil spring of the full size.

>>32541674
i need to know more about this

>>32541674
Source?

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>>32534874
Yes /thread

>>32549041
>/thread-ing I'm your own post
You're the worst type of person.

>>32549716
Apparently my phone thinks "in" should be "I'm". Being a mobilefag sucks.

>>32535167
God that pistol looks amazing