Concealed carry reciprocity bill introduced into congress

>>32531734
>http://www.breitbart.com/2nd-amendment/2017/01/03/gop-rep-introduces-national-concealed-carry-reciprocity-day-one-new-congress/
You deserve a love bump

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>>32531734
NC

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>>32531734
Feels good in constitutional carry land

>>32531734
>200% glad

>>32531734
Only problem is it's going to cause states that want to limit CC to eliminate it all together.

>>32531854
Unconstitutional. They have to at least formally allow it, and then their cucked residents can get a CC from a non cucked state and carry in their own cucked state. this is all beautiful beyond belief

>>32531854
>Get other state's permit
>¿¿¿
>profit

>>32531867
this

>>32531872
You didn't read the bill. Did you?

>>32531734
what will we do when we have awesome amounts of firearm freedom and low crime?

bitch about taxes?

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>>32531734
KS

>>32531867
Will nonCC states allow their subjects to get outofstate CCs, or will they demand they abide by their own laws inside their state?
>tfw Calistan locals still emptyhanded as outofstate tourists CC through LA...

>>32531943
>>32532107
I read it, it looks like you can get out-of-state CC to me

> and who is carrying a valid license or permit which is issued pursuant to the law of a State and which permits the person to carry a concealed firearm or is entitled to carry a concealed firearm in the State in which the person resides, may possess or carry a concealed handgun

notice it says
>pursuant to the law of a State
>a State
it doesn't specify the person's native state

>>32532039
>bitch about taxes?
Just keep knocking down laws.
It's that much more work they'll have to do to rebuild gun control later, should it ever come to that.

>>32532264
It will depend on a lot of legalese.
>will another state issue their CC permits to Califags?
>Constitutional carry states don't have an actual permit to issue anyway
That wording - "the state in which the person resides" may get (mis)applied by CaliLaw to apply to the first part "a permit issued pursuant to the law of a State" then get the 9th Circuit circlejerk for years until Scotus

>>32532402
Pretty sure all Constitutional Carry states except maybe Vermont still have concealed carry permits that you can get.

t. lives in AZ which has Constitutional Carry and I have my CCW

>>32532264
It sounds like it works just like gay marriage.

>>32532476
Worst case Florida out of state license. Oh I would love to see the Delaware legislatures faces if this passes

I can see the commiefornia politicians reeeeeeeing already.

I read the bill last night, and the way I read it, it wont change much for those of us who already have a CWP. The bill states that my CWP has reciprocity in those states which recognize concealed carry and constitutional carry. It says nothing about Illinois, New York, or Commiefornia that dont recognize concealed carry.

I was optimistic about this law, but after reading it, I am not so sure any more.

>>32533867
it basically says that if you have a concealed carry license you can use it in any state that has concealed carry allowed

>>32533867
All of those states do recognize CCW permits from their own states. This just forces them to recognize permits from out of state.

>>32533867
Currently no state is "no-carry", and good luck making an argument for outlawing CC, much less making it hold up in the supreme court

Everyone ITT is getting it wrong. There is no scenario in which Californians are going to get CC because of this law. Nor will any out of state CC holder receive reciprocity there.

Stop dreaming califags

>>32533882
This and I forsee a lot of New York using Florida for something other than retirement

>>32533930
There is no scenario where California will not attempt to subvert the law at every step and pray the cases never get to trump court. You are mostly right but it may not be up to them in a few decades

>>32531734
>Notwithstanding any provision of the law of any State or political subdivision thereof
Nothing to see here guys

>>32531734
YES

SO MUCH YES

WE WAITED OUR TURN UNDER 8 YEARS OF OBAMA

We were constantly demonized, but it is OUR turn now

>>32531867
Where?
CC bans are from the start of the confederacy.
You're thinking open carry, which also is not present and falls under, well shits got to be moved somehow.

>>32531734
>>32532402
>>32532476
>>32533867
>>32533879
>>32533882
>>32533911

So basically Utah CCW will become the national CCW license.Not that it isn't already basically.

"does not prohibit the carrying of concealed firearms by residents of the State for lawful purposes"

From what I get out of it.

If you :
1.) Have a CCW from your state
2.) Can have a gun by federal standard
3.) meet the legal requirements to be able to have CCW in the state you're visiting

you can CCW in any state and cali commies btfo. If this bill does as is intended. Utah CCWs are about to fucking skyrocket since they have the best system for getting an out of state permit.


Now all they need to do is fix state AWB laws.

I wish Ohio would pass constitutional carry already

>>32534110
the way it's worded, any laws regarding the actual carry still apply, such as "can't carry in X location" or "can't use hollow points" or registration or whatever dumb shit. But the ability to carry is reciprocated so you don't have to go through your state's licensing process.

>>32531746
>posting breitbart as a serious source
He deserves a 'bump' to the side of his head.

>>32533823
Well Commiefornia is still technically may-issue so they'd be subject to this as well.
>suddenly fucking every gun owner in California goes to Florida, Arizona, or Utah to get a permit

>>32534135
>constantly demonized
>constantly
Yeah, right.

>>32532042
Fuck you Kansas you suck balls

>>32533930
>There is no scenario in which Californians are going to get CC because of this law. Nor will any out of state CC holder receive reciprocity there.
California is may-issue, so reciprocity will be required.

>>32533930

Sure if they want to deny federal law then elt them try.

The feds always get what they want in the end. That's why we have a federally mandated 21 drinking age and 0.08 BAC limit for drunk driving.

>>32534593
Here's your (you)

>>32534616
So what we're all statists now and big brother is good?
Who shoved an Anzio up your ass for storage?

>>32535136
If its statist to stop states from oppressing the constitutional rights of citizens then I'm all about it.

>>32535242
Both the state and federal government are supposed to support the rights even at the expense of the other. It is weird seeing the federal side doing more to guarantee liberty here but could be a distraction so other interests can rob us elsewhere

If this passes I might finally get off my ass and get my ccw.

>>32531734
Fuck concealed carry. I want MGs.

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>>32536053
Death by 1000 papercuts, anon.
But yeah, if there was a time to get greedy, the time is now

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>>32536150
Maybe we can try to repeal ultra restrictive state laws like in CA, NY, NJ, etc.

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>>32536150
>$30 sten
>$50 MP40

>>32535136
>states rights
>when it comes to a constitutionally protected liberty

States should not have the right to restrict portions of rights they don't like because their asses get hurt at the thought of them.

>>32535136
How is it statist for the feds to literally throw their hands up and let their citizens have access to tens of millions of autoloading rifles and hopefully full autos down the road.

Feds can't control guns anymore and it only become more impossible for them if there is a grace period of progun pushback on the federal level and gun owners massively upgrade their arsenals.

And if the feds ever try and change their minds, all those hundred million gun owners will be much better prepared to tell them no.

This is true victory for us in the war on guns. Its time to seize it.

>>32531753
Fuck yeah

>>32536910
This

The whole reason the Bill of Rights and Constitution exists is so that states cannot infringe on certain core rights of US citizens.

>>32536910
Sorry but as a rconfederacy cum republic, the states may do as they wish internally.

>>32536962
Yeah sure I'll believe it when I see Trump at a range using his carry piece while Obama is shooting skeet.

>>32537038
What rights?
Rights can't be taken away, but voting and guns can from felons.
Except blackpowder.
So by dint of example, the only right you have is to blackpowder, all else is privilege.

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>National CC reciprocity.
Pic related.

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>>32531867
>Unconstitutional
>Like they care.

>>32538724
How are large breasted anime girls related?

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>>32539484
They're always related.

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>>32531734
>BUT BUT REPUBLICANS DON'T CARE ABOUT GUN RIGHTS GUYS THEY'RE NOT GOING TO GIVE YOU GUYS ANYTHING VOTE HILLARY

>>32531753
This is great! I actually voted for Hudson on my ballot!

>>32534574
So I cant carry my gun becauese lol10roundlimit™ unless I carry my 1911

>>32539484

If you watched RWBY, you'd understand just how /k/-related it is.

>>32539855
For now. Trump's 2nd Amendment Coalition (the group that brought you this bill) wants to end all the state level registration, feature bans, cap limits, gun bans, etc. About the only thing the states will have control over by the time they're through are hunting laws.

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>>32539509
kekekek

Between this and the Hearing Protection Act, 2017 might be a good year.

>>32539998
Damn if they can pull that off I'll be very impressed.

>>32540376
Democrat party would have to filibuster it to stop it.

They'll get tired of doing that eventually.

>>32532107
Most counties in California are effectively shall issue.

>>32540376
it will be easy considering republicans hold congress

>>32531734
The only question I have is if you can still carry in states that require handgun registry. So lets say I drive up to Maryland and national CC is a thing. But Maryland requires handguns to be registered, do I have to register my handgun before I can CC or even bring it there? The law says to follow the state's other laws regarding firearms.

>>32540442
Dems made it really easy to override a fillibuster XD

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>>32533930
Most California counties already are shall issue.

>>32535136
You sound butthurt because anons won't march in lockstep to the tune you want to pick.

>>32540643
The complete dissolution of governments that grant privilege and claim it as rights?
I'm a Grammar Nazi and so soon must the world suffer for that which is law.

>>32537244
>Sorry but as a rconfederacy cum republic, the states may do as they wish internally.

That's not how Constitutional law works.

I would love to see the reaction if NY State government stopped a news outlet from opening, or arrested someone for speaking out against them.

Please tell me how they shouldn't do that, but can stop me from buying or carrying a gun?

>>32540692
They should, have, and will.
What do you think the whole point of all the major media killing themselves running shitty stories right after an act to ban fake media is passed?
The attempted kill of the ethics committee should tell you just where we're going.

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>>32540720
Thank you for Correcting the Record.

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>>32540463

>mfw there's nothing those cocksuckers can do to stop us for at least 4 years

>mfw they will probably be an objectively good 4 years too

>>32531734
>Caring about a permit

You ask the government permission to use the bathroom as well?

Carry a gun wherever you want, if someone give you shit just shoot them with it.

>>32533930

ITT, as per usual, tripfags are know-nothing cock-worshipers

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>>32540743
>mfw a dozen Dem senators in red states are up for reelection in 2018
>mfw being able to amend the Constitution at will by 2019

>>32540768
>mfw being able to amend the Constitution at will by 2019

wat

>>32540730
No problem.
The kill ethics thing is still on for vote, just not now is all.
The whole issue is there aren't actually many independent media anymore, most of it is is owned by like 15 groups.
There has been few friends in government and far too many in it for power.
And all we have coming up is power seekers who wish to rule you.
>>32540743
Ha ha
Also midterms fool.
But realy I'll beleive he isn't Clinton lite and we won't be screwed over when it happens.

>>32540768
Yes strike down the amendments entirely and enshrine the patriot Act first.
You do know history and who started this shit anon?

>>32540783
The GOP will control the Presidency, strong majorities of both houses of Congress, and 75% of state legislatures. That's what you need to pass Constitutional amendments - pass Congress and get 3/4 of states to ratify. We could end birthright citizenship, repeal the 19th Amendment, declare proposing a gun control bill of any kind at any level to be high treason, or whatever crazy shit you can think of.

>>32540743
Dems are already gearing up to block ALL of Trump's nominees

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/schumer-working-not-to-fill-scotus-seat/article/2610845

>>32540819
Good.
No government is good government as the last 8 years have shown.

>>32540819
Yeah well too fucking bad they can't actually do anything to stop them thanks to rule changes Harry Reid made as majority leader. No filibusters allowed, and all you need is 50%+1 (aka Pence as tie breaker) to confirm an appointment now. There's literally nothing the Democrats can legally do at this point. If they stage a sit in or throw tantrums, they will be physically thrown out on their asses so the vote can continue.

>>32540837
Wow they really thought Hillary was going to save them

They bet everything on that

>>32540849
That got passed in 2009. It was done because Repubs were blocking everything including the essential functions because they were upset bitches.
The table has been set by their precedent, everything is allowed.
Or as they say, don't give your enemy the chance to use something you want.

>>32540876
>It was done because Repubs were blocking everything including the essential functions because they were upset bitches.
Given the unprecedented electoral swing in favor of the GOP since the passage of Obamacare you could make a decent case that opposition to the entire Democratic agenda was in fact obeying the will of the people.

>>32540811
>We could end birthright citizenship

lol, good luck with that. We'd be buying NFA items online and getting it shipped at home with no restrictions before this even comes up.

>>32540837
Filibuster is still allowed for SCOTUS nominees, everything else got nuclear'd

>>32540901
It's really not, given how badly illegals and anchor babies are fucking us over. If your parents aren't US citizens or legal permanent resident aliens, you shouldn't be allowed to leech off of Uncle Sam.

>>32540899
You means since 96?
And thus people endorse the war in Iraq Patriot and more.
Please we don't have a nice system, we just aren't interesting to see what happens anymore.

>>32540901
I always find the birthright citizenship funny.
Like this country needs more people in the military as an excuse to go invade dumbfuckistan for Booz Allen.

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>>32531734
>reciprocity passes
>hearing protection act passes

CCWing a suppressed glock 17 in Times Square for shits and giggles

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>>32540941
>not a Glawk 40
Anon, do you even want to solve problems?

>>32540941
Don't cities still have their own separate control?
I know I can't take my stuff into Baltimore and have to leave it in Richmond.

>>32539869
>World full of spooks.
>Special academies for training those who deal with said spooks.
>Everything is also a gun!
>Waifus with raifus (seriously: Nora Valkyrie runs around with a combination hammer/grenade launcher).
>Cute robot girls.
>Even the fucking cruise ships are armed to the teeth.
>Faunus-equivalent of BLM.
>Biggest-baddie is a woman who gives me serious Hillary-vibes.

Agreed, Anon. It's breddy /K/.

>>32540932
>>32540929
We Starship Troopers now?

What kind of shit would one have to do to become a citizen? Just think about that one

>>32540961
>Don't cities still have their own separate control?
This will override that as well.

>>32540972
Just make sure one parent was here legally

Anchor baby problem solved

>>32540961
The only thing they might really stick to is magazine limitations unless it's addressed by the reciprocity bill

>>32540967
I just wish the animation was better. I'm struggling to get through S1 since it's completely cringe inducing.

>>32540972
>What kind of shit would one have to do to become a citizen?
Be born from citizens or legal permanent residents, or use the existing Citizenship through Service military program. This is not a difficult concept.

>>32540972
Most of what I see are people saying US army dies for Jisrael and you must be serving on the front lines to be a citizen with no wire between the two.

Me, I would say nothing, simply because its the same as any other test, how to exclude the most people.
THough I do think having to have all the people in favor of it have to go through the immigration process to start would be lulzy indeed.

>>32535136
The job of the Federal government is supposed to be to protect us from overbearing state governments, jackass.

No other right gets chipped away at like gun rights. Imagine if California passed laws limiting your first amendment rights, the fucking shitstorm that would (rightfully) come down on them would be incredible.

>>32540981
Nigger cant you read?

>>32541010
>Imagine if California passed laws limiting your first amendment rights, the fucking shitstorm that would (rightfully) come down on them would be incredible.
You'd think that, but if it gets done in the name of fee-fees it sails right on through. It is illegal to use the wrong pronouns for a tranny in New York City, for example.

>>32540998
Yeah. I'll be the first to admit that it's a little awkward at times. But, they keep improving it with each volume, and the story is getting fleshed out more and more. Also, Uncle Qrow is pure awesome. Keep in mind, it's still a fairly new show and the first American Anime to be exported to Japan (pretty big feat to accomplish).

>>32541010
But we already have those with the safe space, hate speech, free speech and first amendment zones, the blacking out of what is being done by the government, the eula bullshit going on, pushes for yet more evangelical bullshit on catholics, and now fake news.

So yeah its already there senpai, you just aren't allowed to remember it.

>>32531734

https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/house-bill/34?q=%7B%22search%22%3A%5B%22chamberActionDateTotal%3A%5C%222017-01-03%7C115%7Cintroduced%5C%22+AND+billIsReserved%3A%5C%22N%5C%22%22%5D%7D&r=15
saw this bill just now
"H.R.34 - To repeal the Gun-Free School Zones Act of 1990 and amendments to that Act."

>>32541051
and here is a link to the bill in OP
https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/house-bill/38/cosponsors?q=%7B%22search%22%3A%5B%22chamberActionDateTotal%3A%5C%222017-01-03%7C115%7Cintroduced%5C%22+AND+billIsReserved%3A%5C%22N%5C%22%22%5D%7D&r=19

>>32541051
Shieeet

>>32541077
I say check thoroughly, these guys can hide shit well and buy a grandma off with it.

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>>32531734
This is exactly why I voted for Trump twice (primary/general).

>>32541077
>>32541107
I could keep listing more introduced bills from yesterday, though the only one with cosponsers is OP's bill, so there might not be a point, some others i found was were: "H.R.62 - To provide for the hiring of 200 additional Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives agents and investigators to enforce gun laws."
Hide your doggos
Also: "To require the Director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation to report to the Congress semiannually on the number of firearms transfers resulting from the failure to complete a background check within 3 business days, and the procedures followed after it is discovered that a firearm transfer has been made to a transferee who is ineligible to receive a firearm."
Both have no cosponsors so i'm not too worried

>>32541145
200 more also means faster turnaround on forms and more Jamals getting jailed for faking.

I came here because I just read this. holy shit it's like a second christmas in one week. It's not that this is a perfectly ideal instant win, but it's been so fucking long since any gun laws were making strides in the right direction. Feels good man, reciprocity has an actual chance of passing rather than just being a pick-me-up-never-gonna-pass-with-king-nig bill that gets tried every now and again.

NYer here looking forward to a chance at not having to deal with our imoral and unsafe laws.

Won't this be invalidated by the fact that most states that dont already allow this ban non residents from possessing handguns without permits anyways?

>>32531734

Holy fuck they're moving a lot faster than I thought they would. And further than I thought they would. Christ respecting Constitutional Carry?

>>32540819
Dems can't do jack shit, they don't have a majority.

They can sit and cry on the house floor, but that's about it.

>>32540376
It's being led by Don "normie /k/ommamdo" Trump Jr. It's getting done.

>>32541174
No.

>>32541184
wouldn't be the first time lol

>>32540876
It's funny how they laughed down anyone who said they were setting a dangerous precedent and now they have to lie in he bed they made.

>>32541198
Care to elaborate for me and other NY cucks?

>>32541210
It bought 8 more years as a country, we'll see how much higher the number continues.
What's really needed is preformance evaluations and kicking people out in elections rather than letting them blame it on others.
Its not the fault of Democrats when Republicans hold the majority yet that is the narrative.
No Congressman fuckwit, you threw this country under the bus, here's a shop rag and wrench, you fix it.
Instead we now have GoldmanSachs and shits everywhere wanting to shive us back into the 20s.

>>32541215
It won't be invalidated. If the cops try, ring up AG Sessions's DoJ and ask them to squish the cops for you

>>32541215
Not him, but if you have the right to carry a gun, you have the right to possess it.

I'm stuck as one of cuomo's subjects too and if i understand correctly, we need to get a stamp from the county clerk to put the gun on our licenses. If our retarded overloads don't fight this tooth and nail to be the special snowflake state liberal paradise, I assume that with reciprocity, we will have to take our shiny new utah permits to the clerk for a greenslip or whatever lets the FFL give us the gun. Or trump will stomp on cuomo's dick and we'll be able to buy firearms like normal citizens. Either way, these freedoms will come slower to us than others but they'll get here evenly during the next 8 years.

>>32534582
>Implying the New York Times isn't the sole producer of all fake news.

>>32541361
The CIA does a bunch too.

>>32541361
Its interesting how they're the only major US news part not owned by the gang of 4.
Makes you wonder if the Mexican owner got an interesting deal, or if there is something significantly worse going on.
I wager worse, information control should never be concentrated.

>>32541361
So does that mean all the stuff they posted on Hillary was fake like Trump said in Michigan?
Like when did they become fake news from real news and why?

>>32540720


You can't be this retarded. No state government has restricted freedom of speech, no state government has stopped freedom of the press, or instilled cruel and unusual punishments.

You have no argument here. All you're saying is "wah the media has lobbyists n'sheeit" which isn't infringement on free press or speech, it's just big business in bed with big government.

Please grow a few brain cells in the next 4 years

>>32534161
Dealio is, it is unconstitutional to ban CC and OC at the same time.
States like California outright ban OC.Well, whatever. But they also perform a de-facto ban on CC because a lot of theircounties are essentially no-issue. They got their shit kicked in by the supreme court.

If this bill passes, their shitty no CC laws don't mean shit,because any fucko from Arizona canjust carry in California.

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>>32541240
>here's a shop rag and wrench, you fix it.

You could say they've been fixing it all along!

>>32540533
There are generally exemptions for "transporting" firearms between states, assuming you make "haste" and don't stop anywhere. However, this hasn't stopped police in NY from arresting people for transporting assault weapons through the state without stopping

>>32541184
>Dems can't do jack shit, they don't have a majority.

That's what they said about the GOP back in 2009, and look where we are now

>>32540578
This is basically a map of which CA counties to nuke.

>>32541772
THe green ones because they're using all the water.

>>32541757
But that doesn't effect concealed carrying it If you go into another state, just travelling through

>>32540941
>>32540961
you'd still have to comply with NY state's pistol registration and whatever extra NYC bull.

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>>32532107
>>32532107
>mfw i live in merced county
>mfw our sheriff hands out CCWs like candy
>mfw we have the fastest CCW issue rate at under 14 days in the state

>>32542219
The only downside is that you have to live in Merced county

>>32532039
Go look into the legal loopholes you have to jump through for any business. We have a lot of work to do.

>>32542239
Hilmar isnt too bad. lots of nothing and portugese people who can cook. ive befriended them just for their chicken and beans

>>32538755
This fucking state, man. Even if the law passes, CA will find some way to drag their feet on letting it happen.

>>32539490
It bothers my autism that those handcuffs are just solid metal rings with no means of opening.

>>32535136
>Statists

Anon, you can order a dictionary on Amazon. I suggest you do so so you stop using words you dont fucking understand.

And fuck I'm getting baited and know it

So if this passes will this be a /k/ holy day?

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>>32542363
It's 2hu titty porn, get over it.

>>32536227
This.
Gotta wonder what's going to happen to NJ's cucked laws. People still wait months to years to get a firearm ID card in certain areas

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>>32536350
>1946 inflation
>50$=618$
>30$=371$
>Still cheaper than a decent AR-15

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>>32542589
>You will never be able to buy an MP40 full fun for $618

>>32534525
same corn-brother.

Still hurts after that ass-ploughing OSU got NYE though

>>32531854
>>32531867

McDonald v Chicago

>>32541772
Yes. Yes it is.

>>32541780
The red ones because they flush 40% of the state's water out to sea to help a fucking bait fish that gets restocked every year anyway.

>>32542648
Cucksich signed campus carry at least

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/12/19/governor-kasich-signs-bill-legalizing-campus-carry-in-wake-of-ohio-state-car-knife-attack/

>>32542363
>>32542488
it bothers me more that she's so shiny. I once saw a picture of IRL girls and they weren't that shiny

>>32542738
doesnt fucking help when my campus said "no".

i go to school next to a military base, crawling with ROTC and arabs and people who have burned flags.

if theres a target in my area, its my damn school.

>>32542618
Anything is possible when the house is controlled by republicans who are pro fun.

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>>32541767
>2009
>Not completely republican controlled
>2012-13 doesn't exist.

>>32542842
GOP obstructed the shit out of Obama, don't even get me started on the Supreme Court; Obama had every right to appoint a new justice

It's no wonder the guy had to use so many executive orders

Same thing will happen with Trump, but with the Dems being obstructionists

>>32531734
So after this and the HPA, what's next? No handguns under 21? MGs? SBRs?

Lmao lib legislatures are prolly shitting themselves reading that