Well we can forget about the imports from Russia. :(

>>32528288
Uh, no...
That's an American comapny building in another country. A Russian company building in Russia is fine with him.

Seems more like it's about punishing companies that move work out of the country to benefit. Not just other countries goods being brought here. I doubt we are gonna start not bringing Chinese goods into the country.

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THE COSMOLINE IS OURS, AMERICANS. Back off

All he wants is a "big border tax". I'll take a $1300 SVD with a $300 meme tax over an $8000 preban.

>>32528288
>gun is build in russia
>gun is taxed with tariff
>gun is sold here

Who cares at the price as long as we can get them?

>>32528343
>buying a memeVD

>>32528375
>not buying a memeVD

>>32528367
>who cares at the price
I got an SKS for 225 Canadian after tax today.
At the current exchange rate that's 167USD.

>>32528337
Tovirisch pls. Some of us are Russians with a hard-on for Russian quality firearms

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>>32528389
SHUT UP NOW

>>32528288
So is he going to try and dismantle NAFTA?

Does he even know what NAFTA is?

>>32528692
Please be bait.

>>32528692
He either doesn't understand how it works or is taking advantage of people who don't know how it works for political gain.

I never understood why anyone thought Trump would be pro-gun, let alone pro-imported guns.

The best I hope for is that he is indifferent and will sign some of the more minor pro-gun bills that come to his desk.

>>32528389
yeah but what about your 10 round mag limit, nigger?

>>32529570
Because is a huge gun advocate. Besides that, he literally hasn't said anything specifically about russian imports so far.

>>32529612
>10 round
Sweet summer child

>>32529642
Because his son*

No idea how I missed that part

>>32529570
>buying guns from Russia and China makes you a real 2nd amendment supporting American!

Actually, that makes you a cuck.

>>32529570
because a New York billionaire who literally lives in a gold tower is going to do stuff I like, I know this because he says he's going to make stuff great and I just fill in the blanks myself and assume he has sweeping legislative powers

>>32529570
Well the NRA did endorse him before he was even nominated.

Rumor has it that he's going to overturn all of Obama's executive orders day one, which would include the Russian sanctions and the 41f change to NFA trusts. It's also anticipated that Trump would sign the Hearing Protection Act into law, which would remove silencers from the NFA.

His son is also a big-league gun guy, believe me.

>>32529672
It makes you a collector, nigger. If you only bought American, you'd have nothing but $3k 1911s and ARs.

>>32529706

Sure thing, cuck.

We all definitely agree with you and don't think that you're actually a pathetic cuck. Nope. Not at all.

>>32529682
a: he does have sweeping power
b: he's been explicitly pro-gun
c: his kids hunt
d: all the anti-gun shit is liberal swamp bullshit that'll get drained.

>>32529612
5 round :(

My SKS is penetrated unconsensually by a magazine pin

>>32529642
>>32529658
>>32529686
With his wealth, why would Trump's son care about piddly things like NFA fees or pre-ban machine gun prices?

>>32529760
its a conservative president now.. things are going to change
It's been lefties since 100+ years ago

>>32528692
That horrible thing that fucked over America and made the Clintons rich?

That NAFTA?

>>32529895
Yeah, because only the clinton's got anything out of it. Its not like manufacturing benefited from the cheaper labor or anything.

>>32528389
Compared to not getting it at all with current laws paying extra for a Russian gun is better.

>>32529682
Hey, I'm not a Trump supporter, but you realize more than half of congress are millionares including the Clintons?

>>32529834
>Trump
>Conservative
bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

>>32529760
You still have the ridiculous wait periods.

>>32529931
Trump is ultra conservative compared to the closet marxists & globalists of the last several generations

>>32529912
This is getting /pol/ tier. But manufacturing in general does not benefit from cheap outsourced labour. The people who were setting up their golden parachutes at the time are the ones who benefitted.

But by outsourcing what used to be some of the best paying jobs, they've pocketed the difference themselves and weakened the consumer base as a whole.

This is why Henry Ford set his employees salaries such that they would be able to afford his own products. Competition had to follow suit, and suddenly there was a really strong consumer base for his products.

Whereas because of shit wages and shit jobs, the entire economy of the west right now is a gigantic consumer credit bubble just waiting to pop.

But businesses aren't singleminded entities. It all comes down to the guy who is in charge at whatever point in time, and all he cares about is whatever puts the most money in his pockets right then and there.

He has no reason to care whether or not all the employees he laid off are going to be buying his products with credit and when they all go bankrupt the market is going to go belly up.

>>32529914
I thought CZ made an SKS clone for the US market?

>>32529912
Manufacturing was FORCED out
These third world countries are the third world for a reason, there is nothing appealing about them

>>32529967
I should've been more specific, I agree with your point. Consumerism has driven us mad, gone are the days of Ford the race to the bottom is all that matters anymore.

>>32529979
No and I would want more guns anyway. Not a gun that kind of looks like what I want.

>>32530008
Pretty much.

And I'm not saying this as a poorfag. I'm comfortably middle class. I enjoy a lot of extravagances that most people don't get to enjoy.

But I can see that whole retarded credit bubble growing. And it's going to ruin my shit too when it pops. Not just poorfags.

>>32529997
Manufacturers moved production to the developing world.

That and you're ignoring that the actual revenue from manufacturing in the US has grown as it was projected to, it just did so while automating and reducing the total number of laborers necessary.

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>>32530017
Yeah, true. There's really no beating the real thing.

>>32530050
There would be no benefit to doing so if the developing world had the same labour standards as the west. It would be a waste of time and fuel to transport everything to and fro

>>32528288
US companies aren't going to outsource AK production to Russia you fucking imbecile.

>>32529979
They never did anything even resembling an sks

>>32530072
it's a moot point anyways since most manufacturing jobs are a few years away from being automated

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>>32530091
He probably meant that VZ 52 thing, but even still, he's retarded and doesn't know what he's talking about.

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>>32529721
>we

>>32530122
The end result is that we're going into that reality with a weaker middle class. People are more screwed more quickly as a result.

>>32530122
Better having engineering job maintaining these automatons next door than in China or India.

>>32530138
No nevermind. I'm thinking of the chink clone which you guys can't import either AFAIK

I heard Trump explain things with his own word once and it made a lot of sense. Free trade agreements encourage companies to go to the country with cheaper labor every time, because it's cheaper. Import tariffs keep business and jobs in the more wealthy countries by making it more costly to base that business in foreign countries.

>>32530169
Yeah well there's going to be 1 engineer for every thousand robots. Assuming that you can't just have artificial intelligence direct an unskilled worker to perform any necessary maintenance.

>>32529672
If American makers made stuff I want, I'd buy from them. But I don't want another AR-15 or 1911. And real capitalism isn't protectionism, so why should I pay Springfield Armory $$$ for what Norinco has shown they can make cheaper?

>>32530198
So?

I don't need to ask an operator to connect me when I make a call anymore.

Technology marches on. I still prefer for job to be produced locally.

>>32530188
And then high wages/benefits encourage companies to automate so you lose the jobs anyway and have higher cost products

>>32530244
I'm just saying. The way our society is, the way people's world view is... Shit's going to get ugly in the next 50 years.

>>32529997

>implying you have to force out the big dogs when they see $0.10 in wages for a 16 hour work day with 1 bathroom break.

They were chomping at the bit to assfuck the american middle class out of good jobs so they could get dirt cheep labor, charge just as much if not more for the product then give themselves nice big fatass pay raises and bonuses for years on end.

>>32529964
>Reagan
>Nixon
>etc.
>leftists
topkek

>>32530310
yes they were leftists

>>32530299
shut up fucking idiot
Unions and high regulations and taxes drove businesses out

>>32530264

The ultra rich are going to have to realise that they need to stop bending everyone else in the world over so they can line their pocket and buy that solid gold plumbing for their 5th home.

>>32530198
Nah, we'll probably end up like japan
But with uncensored porn..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9VJrU9Atkc

>>32530349

>Unions and high regulations and taxes drove businesses out

So do you think the guys in charge were fighting to keep the jobs in america but the evil government and union bosses were telling them to fuck off to china?

How pants on head retarded do you have to be to not know that for people is positions of power like that its not enough for them to have, everyone else must not have.

>>32528389
shut up leaf. Your Tumblr creature PM is proof that you don't deserve such privileges.

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>>32528288
when they're fortune 500 companies it's a little different, isn't it?

>>32529760
because he likes guns and recognizes that the NFA is retarded

>>32530393
Are you an idiot?
You don't save money with out sourcing

This is why they all want to come back, they aren't saving any money out there

>>32529760
Maybe he wants a MP5SD with a fun switch?

>>32528337
day of the rake is coming, bitch

>>32530430
>all those nameless companies fighting to move manufacturing back to the US
kek

>>32530358
They already own everything. According to our laws they don't have to give a shit.

>>32530430

Maybe today since wages are picking up in china.

But i doubt we will see a massive flood of $20 to $30 an hour jobs like we had (accounting for inflation in most cases) coming back anytime soon.

>>32530393
they would not have had to move the jobs to places where people will work for slave wages if it weren't for unions constantly demanding wage raises and striking when they didn't get them. People were not willing to pay $35k for a Cavalier and the companies knew that. Their choices were either charge high prices for cars that no one would pay and go out of business or move production to some place where they would still be able to keep the company in business. The whole "CEO's being greedy for high pay and screwing workers" meme has been debunked about 1 million times now. I suggest you stop getting economic and business news from Occupy Democrats memes and other Bern Out loving leftist cuck websites.

>>32529672
Well maybe if American made (insert any foreign gun here) wasn't so shit and had tendencies of being poor quality or KBing maybe I wouldn't have to claw tooth and nail to just not buy American products.

>>32528288
its to punish USA companies with production plants overseas.

>>32530483
>The "If they weren't forced to pay so much money, they would use the money they saved to pay so much money" argument.

T...I can't even.

>>32530430

>pay an american $20 an hour + benefits
>pay song quon kindong $0.05 a day and no benefits

One of these things is not as expensive as the other annon. hummm i wonder which on it could be.

>>32530465
buy a class 3 FFL

>>32528389
are guns registered to the owner in canada? how do authorities combat illegal cross-border trading?

>>32530505
id rather have the money stay in america than enrich a 3rd world america-hating shithole

>>32528367

I'd gladly pay $1100 or a bit more for a arsenal russian Saiga again, considering DDI wants $950 for their peices of U.S made shit.

>>32530483

How dare a job like that pay a living wage!

the GALL of some people to even THINK a guy building cars should make enough to scrape by on his own let alone be enough to support a family!

>>32530507

leafs need a license to own guns, the government knows they have guns.

>>32530506
Why doesn't everyone just buy a class 3 FFL?

How much more do you think the average consumer is willing to pay to buy something made in America?
0%, 5%, 20%?

>>32528288
>imports from Russia.
No you jackass, they can move production for civilian models here instead of importing them

>>32530530
-2/10 bait

50$ an hr is more than a living wage, unless you live in cali. then its just above the poverty line

>>32530512

As hard as it is to buy american anymore. i am more then willing to pay more for things made here. And in every single case i have come across there is a marked difference in quality.

>>32530535
There are some people who do have a license but no guns. Like somebody might get one on a whim because their buddy is like "Holy shit i love hunting you should totally get your license" and then they get their license, and then the next year the other person is like "nevermind, hunting smells like poo" and the license is valid for 5 years per renewal, so they have a valid license for 5 years that they never bother to use.

But as far as non restricted (long guns, other than scary AR-15 looking guns) weapons goes, there's no registry.

Like some gun stores will keep some records to CYOA if shit happens, but they aren't legally obliged to. I'm sure there's stores in the states that do that.

But overall once you have your gun license, buying a gun is like buying a pack of cigarettes.

But when you get into short barreled centerfire rifles and handguns it gets a little more complicated, but still roughly the same idea.

>>32530483
>CEOs in the US aren't paid dramatically more than their counterparts in Europe and Japan
>CEOs in the US don't dodge taxes both for themselves and their companies

good goy

>>32530495
>>32530530
what's it like having absolutely no clue about how economics and supply and demand work?
It is a proven fact that union wage demands are what destroyed Detroit. If the company couldn't make the product at a price the consumer would pay, then they would stop making the product and go out of business anyway. Stop with the "muh living wage" meme. Also, don't bother with using homogeneous, tiny countries as examples of how it could work in America.

/k/ is a weapons board and since it's a guarantee that you are nogunz because of your (complete lack of) economic knowledge and political beliefs, I'd advise you find a board more in line with your beliefs, probably one that has lots of webm's of traps.

>>32530570

You do know that when the American middle class was in its hayhay a man with a good job and some overtime could support himself + wife +2 - 3 kids, have a nice home, 2 cars and his CEO still made more money then he would now what to do with.

>>32530610
>t. assblasted cuckservative
>muh rubio
>t. stop posting off topic even though I started it but now that you completely rekt my argument stop it or I'll call call the mods.

>>32530625
you rekt nothing. I pointed out the multiple flaws in your statement and now you're upset. I'm not a leftist so I don't bother reporting people when I prove them wrong. Instead of being a NEET and living with your mom, you should get a real education and strive for a useful career.

>>32530548
because most of us are poorfags compared to the Trumps

>>32530646
You're the one who has resorted to ad hominem. That makes you the one without an argument.

>>32530665
just because it's ad hominem doesn't mean it's not true. Sorry pal but there is a reason Trump won and leftism is being smashed to pieces in a huge way (full disclosure: I voted for Johnson). The real world is tired of the lies and nonsense. Every leftist meme has been debunked and the people are tired of it. Get an education and start contributing to society. Literally everything you idiots have said about "da workers being screwed by greedy CEO's" is an absolute lie. Sorry but it's over and it's time for the oversized children to grow up.

>>32530173
At least we have rights leafag

>>32530701
>leftist
nope.
>NEET
nope
>nogunz
nope

Just keep on being a good goy. But shut the fuck up about politics so we can go back to talking about guns.

>>32530349
What is your definition of conservative? It seems divorced from any conventional definition. He is not economically conservative (a.k.a. small government free market liberalism) and definitely not socially conservative. He's not a religious conservative. Anti-interventionism perhaps? Sounds good to me but difficult to reconcile with his statements about ISIS, Islamism, and Guantanamo

>>32530763
you're not wrong

>>32530586
so how do they stop canucks from buying russian SKS for cheap and then selling it to americans at the border?

>>32528389

>5 round mag

>no CC

>no right to self defense

>license to own guns


you can keep it.

>>32530138
>7.62x45mm
What the fuck

>>32529570

Hearing protection act is definitely being signed, and Don jr is heading the new trump second amendment coalition, Don jr is extremely pro gun, and browsed several guns forums before deleting the accounts, arfcom included.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6IDPMZwXnE&spfreload=10

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWbj8P6Tk-E&spfreload=10

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWKbR2Dfmp0&t=4s&spfreload=10

Removal of the chinese ammo and firearm import ban is also on the agenda of the second amendment coalition.


https://www.thetrace.org/2016/11/donald-trump-second-amendment-coalition-obama-executive-actions/

>>32530222
>And real capitalism isn't protectionism

You're selling out your country because you want to save a few bucks on a gun you're probably not going to shoot anyway?

Cuck.

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>>32530397
>implying and /k/anadians voted for Trudope
Mad Max soon, friend...
We have 3 years to prepare. 3 years for Trudope to keep fucking up until he has no voters left.

>>32528288
>Trump: I want to incentivize companies to build in the US instead of moving all ours jobs overseas with tariffs
>CRONY CAPITALISM AT WORK AGAIN #NEVERDRUMPF #IMWITHHER #FEELTHEBERN
What is these people's problem?

>>32531634
They have been conditioned to accept anything their media says as truth. It tells them Trump is evil and cannot do anything good.
Therefore, they crusade against anything he does blindly

>>32530610
It's not just the wages--if anything, the work rules are even worse, because they actively prevent work from getting done, and protect people who produce low-quality work or even defraud the company (or its customers).

>>32531305
Customs and border crossings.

>>32529706

My CZ P-09 was made in the US

>>32529760

Because paperwork and finding parts its a pain in the ass no matter how rich you are.

>>32528389
>I got a 200$ SKS, suck on that Americans!

Everything else is twice the price here. Glocks should not be thousand dollar pistols.