Redpill me on this Arsenal 5.45x39.5 AK my slavboo friends.
Only the russian SGLs are worth owning.
>>32517946
FPBP
>>32517472
polymer side-folder master race.
nice choice OP
can't say how it compares to the SGL line.
>>32517946
Wrong. Don't listen to nogunz OP. The SLR is the tits.
>>32518347
I have more firearms than you by a factor of probably 10.
>>32518360
This isn't close to all that I have my friend. It's just a random picture of my SLR.
>>32518377
I assume you have more.
>>32517946
The SGLs are on par with the SLRs. I've handled both. Frankly the SLRs had slightly better fit and finish.
>>32517472
how do they put the selector dimples into the reciever?
grinder?
punch?
>>32518389
None of my handguns are even pictured but I do have quite a bit in my safe I haven't really counted them to find out how many exactly.
>>32518396
I had the same impression before I bought mine. It felt nicer than all the others at my LGS so I went with it. It's really accurate too.
>>32517472
I prefer the aks-74n
>>32517472
is good
>>32517946
Hillary lost. You aren't going to be selling that $2500 SGL. Sorry.
SLR104FR master race reporting in. 3 years, ~10K rounds, about 2 MOA, 2 stovepipes in that time that I attribute to a bad magazine. Best rifle I own, and my (*cringe) "go to war" rifle
>>32517472
Mine is my favorite rifle, it's accurate, well made, ergonomic, and the break makes recoil less than my AR, the only issue is finding decent mags and the included sling, which is shit but not at all a detractor from the rifles quality.
>>32517472
Excellent Bulgarian AK74. Not exactly an AK74M but the details are so minor only collectors will care.
>>32517472
>4.5mm
lol
>>32517472
I have this gun, and it is by far my favorite and best shooting rifle. The ammo's cheap as well, and I just love the way it looks. I highly recommend it, but don't pay more than $1,100.
>>32518739
>that stock
>that grip
>that scope
Do you enjoy ruining your rifles?
>>32517472
slr 105 here
10 years old and probably higher round count than any ak posted in this thread
>>32521435
What exactly is the difference between a 105 and a 104? How much did you pay for it?
>>32521473
It shoots a fantastically shitter round.
>>32521473
105s have the old single-stage arsenal triggers, and for some reason were made with AKS-74 trunions and tula rivets incase you want to cut a dimple in the receiver for a folding stock kit
other than that there isn't much of a difference, it's pretty much the same gun just without a shittier trigger
>>32521473
the original 105s go for around 800 and up, and the old ban-shit 105s can be found for around 650-ish
if you got the tools i'd pick up a ban-shit 105 and turn it into an AK-105 project gun, but thats just me
>>32521517
105 is still 5.45, dumbass.
>>32518244
the bulgarian guns are nicer, even o'l mikhail thinks so.
the SLR's were more expensive then SGL's too when they had both coming in.
>>32521565
Russian designation guns do. Ruski 105s are just SBR'D 104s. He has an American Arsenal SLR105. They are completely different.
Stop pretending to know what you're talking about airshit kiddie.
Where's a good place to pick up one of these? the only ak's I have are in 7.62 and would love to switch it up.
>>32521599
Okay, Mr. Gun Expert. What round does said rifle shoot then? Is it not 5.45x39mm? Does the SLR-104FR not also shoot 5.45x39mm?
>>32517472
>5.45x39.5
why bother over 5.56?
>>32521599
You have confused the SLR-107 with the SLR-105.
Also an AK-105 is already an SBR in 5.45x39, it's not a 'SBR'd 104' that just doesn't make any god damn sense at all. An AK-104 is 7.62x39 carbine.
I'm not sure where to buy a SLR-104 either, I got my 105 in Dallas/Fort worth at a funshow.
>>32521704
Have fun finding magazines that aren't shit, you fucking idiot.
>>32521704
a well made 74' is a warhorse that does terrible things to living creatures with 5.45x39, for very cheap
for 5.56 you might as well just get an AR-15 and be done with it, any 5.56 AK you'll get is going to be a bathtub of shaved brass
>>32521777
>abloo bloo bloo I can't afford decent things or even an occasional magazine replacement
Haven't had a problem yet slavaboo.
>>32521799
>does terrible things to living creatures with 5.45x39, for very cheap
So does 5.56. Additionally you can even get loadings for 5.56 that will actually do terrible things to living creatures at ranges further than 200m.
>>32521951
5.56 is not a cheap though and steelcase 5.56 is garbage thats underwhelming
5.45 ak is better aesthetic in general, rib mags look kinda gay
How long until Arsenals are imported again and my only option isn't bubba trying to sell his 107 in used condition for $1500?
>>32518739
Never before have I seen a rifle mall ninja'd in such an aesthetically pleasing manner. Well done.
>>32522026
>underwhelming
Describe "bee sting" 5.45 in one word. Everything it does, so does 193.
5.56 steel case is right around the same price as current commercial steel case 5.45. .223 steel case is cheaper than either. IIRC 5.45 beats 5.56 by a cent or two per round, .223 beats 5.45 by as much as 5c per round. BATFE killed any price arguments in favor of 5.45 quite some time ago.
>>32522049
>everything 5.45 does so does m193
yeah pretty much but its still cheaper than m193, and you didn't say 'everything 5.45 does so does steelcase .223' because you know thats a load of malarkey that will never fly
5.56 AK is for people who think AR-15s are all equally jamming shit which is a bunch of nonsense taboo
>>32522105
>you didn't say 'everything 5.45 does so does steelcase .223' because you know thats a load of malarkey that will never fly
What makes you think off the shelf plinking 5.45 is somehow better than off the shelf plinking .223? You aren't getting military, 7nX spec ammo when you're buying commercial steel case 5.45.
M193 is more economical than any banned combloc surplus.
Russian magic or what?
>>32522124
even the non-7n6 stuff is still better than steelcase .223 for hunting purpose if thats your MO, although 5.45/5.56 are the last choices i'd make for hunting
im pretty sure anyone who ever looks at an AK74 simply wants an AK74 to include the original caliber.
i don't see the point in a 5.56 AK personally because it uses a round i would much rather shoot out of my SPR
>>32522188
The whole point having been that if you weren't already invested in 5.45 before the ban, there is no logical reason to get into it besides adding a proper 74 to your collection for collecting's sake. Beyond that there is feeding your inner slavaboo or the short sighted notion that magazines being 10-20USD cheaper somehow makes up for the fact that it is an inferior choice in every other respect. In any case the OP never specified that he was looking for a 74, the rifle in question being more of a 100 series knock-off.
>i don't see the point in a 5.56 AK personally because it uses a round i would much rather shoot out of my SPR
I don't get it. You don't think 5.56 is the reason AR pattern rifles are generally predisposed to being reasonably precise, do you?
>>32521358
Nothing wrong with attaching actual Ruskie shit like Zenitco or BelOMO on yer AK.
>>32522241
trump will unban everything
>>32517472
expensive shit for slavaboos who want to feel special instead of buying an AR
$1000 AR >>>>> $1000 SLR
>>32522327
>trade protectionist will unban everything bc gun owners want it
maybe but probably not m8
>>32521704
I was perfectly happy with my 106 (5.56), and it's been extremely reliable in the ~2k rounds I've put through it, and it's actually really fun to shoot. Got a pretty good deal for it with low round count on the secondhand market. The reasons why autists like
>>32521777
>>32521799
bitch about them is because of misinformation, I can almost guarantee these niggers never shot one. The truth is that 5.45 and 5.56 are both fun to shoot and feel very similar, though not quite. Also, there are plenty of good mags available for 5.56, you just don't have the variety you do with 7.62 or 5.45 mags. The honest reason I bought another AK in 5.45 is the aesthetics and mag selection, that's fucking it, and that was good enough reason for me to have one alone. And let's face it, the 5.45 mags worth having are going to be just as expensive if not more so than good 5.56 Beryl and Circle 10 mags, so I don't know what the bitching about mag costs is about. I seriously didn't even bother with anything but plums and bakes for my 5.45 because why have anything else?
>TL;DR
You're gonna want to have both, but don't turn away a 5.56. it's also nice to be able to just buy a few boxes of ammo nearly fucking anywhere, and makes even more sense if you already have an AR and/or reload.
>>32522485
i also had a 106 and it ran fine, not one hiccup in 1k rounds which admittedly isnt much.
bulgy mags are pricey but any good AK mags are expensive these days
>>32522490
>bulgy mags are pricey but any good AK mags are expensive these days
Honestly if it's one thing I learned from AK stuff that I wish I knew earlier is that you're not going to save money or find good stuff by just shopping through online retailers and big box stores, all you're going to find is Tapco and Magpul and any surplus stuff is going to be way overpriced. The forum marketplaces are where you need to go do get the good shit and for good prices. There's no fucking reason to buy any AK shit from retailers, even Apex, unless they are having some crazy sale on steel mags.
>>32522437
Jesus /arg/ is fucking drunk, please stop. The only ARs worth having are $1500-2000, and if you weren't retarded and got an AK before 2016 you could have an AK that will outlast you and your children for $500, so spare me the AR faggotry. Nothing wrong with $700 Rugers and M&P15s either, but please don't compare them or your mall ninja Danielle Defense-Magpul-BCM-Fail Zero-Judo Kamakaze- Strafe Attack-Mugen-Bad Dragon/Costaâ„¢ bullshit with Colt/FN which is the only thing comparable in the AR world to an Arsenal Ak
Bulgarian or bust. At this point SLR's end up being better, SGL's are a little tougher to get because muh russia
>>32522611
>and if you weren't retarded and got an AK before 2016
where do you think we are? half this board is 21 or under, plenty of people here are just getting into guns
>Nothing wrong with $700 Rugers and M&P15s either, but please don't compare them...bullshit with Colt/FN which is the only thing comparable in the AR world to an Arsenal Ak
you're right, a $700-800 AR is still better than a SLR
>doesnt have paint that melts off
>lighter
>arguably more ergo
>easier to find and often cheaper parts and accessories
>more accurate even with steel shit ammo
>not a gun designed and produced by subhumans