/gq/ gear thread

first shitpost

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>>32514376

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>>32514396

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Ok, I need a list/link of what all I should have in my three day pack. I dumped it all out a bit ago and It seems lacking greatly.

>>32514398
>cool on competitions
>wasting time using a dump pouch during a competition
hokay lad.

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>>32514404
And a special new page for gear of the month that I made today

>>32514409
lame competitions like PP1 for example. no running and gunning allowed here (except IPSC).

>>32514429
Next month should be about PCUs honestly. Since I started posting mine galore everybody seems to have one.

ALPHA GREEN

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please don't make me wade through hordes of prepper horse shit lists on google for my day pack inventory.

>>32514471
shut up leaf.

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I am loving this warm winter in WNY.

>Dirty gear is happy gear.

>>32514482
leaf?
Thats a new one for me. The fuck does that mean?

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>>32514494
lose the trip and lurk more

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>>32514504
but im shit posting in /arg/ and I dun wanna have to take it on and off again. Plus there isn't much reason to lurk here. From what I can tell there is only like 4 people who actually use their gear for something other than shit posting.

>>32514409
Some competitions require you to retain mags that aren't empty.

>>32514520
There does seem to be an inverse relationship between amount of posts and amount of use.

>>32514408
It depends on your environment, but:
-3L of water + one or two canteens
-Water filter
-Mess kit (+alcohol or gas stove if you like using these)
-Tent or tarp
-Sleeping mat or hammock
-First aid
-Food (minimize cans, get dry stuff instead)
-Extra ammo
-Toilet paper
-Two lighters
-Electronics that you want (GPS, Radio, MP3 to listen to nasheeds)
-Batteries for stuff that you have
-Extra socks and underwear. Seriously
-If it's not in your First aid: chapstick, sunscreen
-Sunglasses
-Map and compass
-Plushie for comfort (not mandatory, but strongly recommended)

>>32514587
Thank you kind anon. Deff missed some of the finer things on that list.

for some reason I think that I have to stuff this massive pack full of shit in order for it to be useful.

>>32514622
stupid leaf!

>>32514471
>3 day pack
2-3L camelback with a way to purify more water like a filter or tablets
3 days worth of food
first aid kit with some anti-venom, antibiotics, and other supplies you may need
sleeping bag and a bivy with a sleeping pad
hammock if you wanna be comfy
a way to start fires, cotton balls in vaseline work well. Bring lighters, matches, and a fire stick. You will always need fire
Mess kit to boil water and hold food
Hatchet to get wood but mostly breaking dead wood wil lwork
fixed blade
tarp
550 cord
multitool
spare ammo
what ever else you think you need

>>32514587
>>32514656
How did i forget socks, underwear and bog roll?
Never know when you might piss yourself

>>32514622
If you can melt snow, you can reduce the water carried considerably.

>>32514656
Multitool should be on him, not in the bag. Just like his knife.

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+3 attack
+1 stealth
-1 speed
+5 virginity protection

>>32514587

Oh, and sleeping bag, of course.

>>32514656
I have most of that. Just forgot extra clothes and a little booboo kit. Along with some personal hygiene shit.

>>32514376
hey, i'm new to gear, i already got a list of /k/ approved gear seller but i've been questioning myslef about a brand

DRTO, what do you think about them ? are they legit and can endure or just overpriced arisoft shit ?

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Postan in first /gq/ thread of the New Year!

>>32514690
I have the GLS 578 for my VP9. I really like it. Works very well and it's small enough I can CC my VP9 under a jacket.

>>32514587

>-Plushie for comfort (not mandatory, but strongly recommended)

>tfw no smol plushies that fill my arms yet let me be comfy

>don't want to bring along current one because I don't want to damage them

Adding: A hat and a headlamp. Also flip flops for camptime. Fuuuuck wearing boots all day even while resting. Stil heavily dependent on environment, though.

>>32514762
Goddamn camp shoes/slippers are a necessity. I really need to get a pair. Having to throw my boots on just to get up to go take a piss in the middle of the night sucks.

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>>32514376
what whip is advised for a uv5R? and not that nagoya thing, unless thats the best.

>>32514622
Self-control is of the most important things to keep in mind while packing.

These guys
>>32514587
>>32514656
are doing good. I like to bring a friend and a bit of cheap vodka. Bonus points for a harmonica.

Vodka is good as a fire adjunct, if you need it.

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>>32514762
11 inch plushies are well suited for comfiness
I take mine everywhere.

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>>32514408
-candy bars
-beat off magazines
-toilet paper
-jerky
-warm beer
-marshmallows
-sega game gear
-some bandaids
-petroleum-based beat off jelly
-Shaggy discography

>>32514804
Pretty sure the Nagoya is the best bang for your buck. Which one were you looking at? The NA-771 or the NA-24J? The 24J looks to be an inch longer than the 771. Not really sure what the difference would be between the two. I'm actually also in the market for a better antenna on my UV-5R. I mean the most I use mine for is to patch into my buddies walkie talkie's when we go innawoods.

>>32514762
>headlamp
I remember the going camping and trying to set up my tent in the dark surrounded my mosquitoes. Trying to hold a flashlight in my mouth, swating shit, and setting a tent up. Bought a head lamp as soon as I got home.

>>32514393

What packs are those? Fuck it I like all of them.

>>32514656

Hatchet might be useless unless you're planning to do a stalker challenge or make a shelter of some sort. Do you or anyone else have any recommendations for one?

This is turning into a camping/stalker challenge prep thread and I like it.

>>32514724
>TFW you will never work for Praying Mantis

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>>32514870
Tactical Tailor Fight Light. I love these packs so much. I have two and all my buddies have one. Everything you need and nothing you dont. Can take pics if wanted.

>>32514715
Never heard of them

>>32514724
is your bed on bricks desu

>>32514862
I keep a head lamp with my binoculars in a pouch on my chest rig. If you're stuck out at night and need a light source a hands free one is the best option. I also have a small hand held flashlight I keep on my belt.

Tripping on my tent in the middle of the night and having to fix it would've been even more of a nightmare than it already was without a head lamp.

>>32515133
It's actually just a massive bed frame. it was actually custom made by my grandpa. He did a lot of woodwork, mostly art in the form of carved birds actually. Shit's pretty cool, I have this amazing eagle grabbing a fish mid-flight that he carved out of some wood he found out in the desert. It's amazing. Anyway, he also made the bed frame and I specifically asked if he could make it tall so I could store stuff under it. So that's why it's super tall. Notice comic book longboxes can fit under it without issue.

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Fresh from my yard before me and a bros/k/i went larping around in the woods,

>>32515307
Are those H&K steel mags?

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Addendum: A fucking towel. Always have one.

>>32514796

Yep. I have a pair of old ones that are kind of bulky so I need to get some cheapo durable ones that won't rip, sometime soon.

>>32514816

I don't take mine innawoods, too delicate. Center Toothless is usually who I bring with me when I travel, and camping but I don't want to strap him to the outside of a pack. I might just strap the giant isopod, though, but it huge.

>>32514862

I've been on the side of the road without one while needing two hands. Can confirm it SUCKS without one. I have two that have been given to me but I think in addition to a regular handheld one, a headlamp is v important.

>>32514884

Middle ones' the ROP, right? It's just the left and right side ones I can't ID. Pics v welcome.

>>32515307

What's the sig holster?

>>32514376
Regarding the OP picture, who is "johnson" is that an actual tripfag or some nonsense just for the picture? I don't keep tabs on most of our current trips

>>32515370
Its a joke.

>>32515321
Mix of brownells and center industries.
>>32515342
One that came with the box. Been looking for a 2022 holster to replace it.That being said, it works quite well and hasn't betrayed me yet.

>>32515378
I mean, I assumed it wasn't an ACTUAL quote, but do we have a "johnson" trip?

>>32515393
Yeah

>>32515393
Yes.

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>>32515307
Paint an Urban-T pattern on your helmet for additional future war street cred.

>>32514408
Afghanistan RC East? Wardak maybe?

There is nothing illegal about walking around with gear on in public woods, right? I can deal with odd looks and the occasional cop dispatch.

>>32515615
Not that I know of, if you don't wanna deal with people just go to a trail no one uses

>>32515342
Both the left and middle are Tactical Tailor Operator Pack, not the removable and the one on the right is some sort of 5.11 thing.

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Thoughts on Snake Eater Tactical's rifle plate carrier?
Looks pretty interesting, I only worry about it's longevity with all of those holes.

>>32515517
what are you referring to anon?

>>32515642
might as well duct tape a plate to your torso. I really dont understand why that is even on the market. But who knows, people love that shit.

>>32515642
dumb gimmick, JPC with tubes is best

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>>32514376
Anyone have that infographic of what goes into an IFAK? Or does any know where to get a ready-made one you can buy?

>>32515643
The patch on your pack. 35RGMT/2BDE. If memory serves they were in RC east 2011(ish)? Multicam gear/patch makes me think Afghan rather than Iraq, and after 2007.

>>32515642
This was built by "OUNCES MAKE POUNDS!" fanatics who didn't think it through.

>>32515666
>confirmed for devil

Oh.....thats a militia patch. But thats fucking crazy that it can be linked to an actual unit. Probs gonna take that off then.

>>32515664
>Cat tourniquet
>Hebrew dressing
>Compressed gauze
>electrolytes
>Celox ZFold

>>32515642
>speed holes

>>32515689
And a chest seal. I like to see trauma sheers in the kit, but that is just me.

At least one pair of nitrile gloves is a courtesy to the person who helps you.

>>32515642
The "mount anywhere at any angle with 550" is soooorta cool. But what is wrong with malice?
I would not count on that thing lasting long. Neat idea just needs to be reworked.

>>32515754
Yeah that works too. He probably needs to learn how to use his supply first.

Go befriend some EMTs

>>32515754
>everything is ziplocked
>two sets of nitrile gloves, separate baggies
>tweezers, fine tip, pair
>rothco trauma sheers (provably shit quality, recommendations?)
>tampons, six
>bandaids, steristrips, and butterfly closures, many
>gauze pad 5x9
>small 3x8 nonstick pad
>superglue
>triple antibiotic
>alcohol wipes
>self-adhering tape and ace bandage
Just missing a tourni, celox, and chest seal, anything else?

I've also got betadyne, calomine lotion, hydro perox, various medicine cabinet solutions (ibuprofen, laxatives, anti-diarheal, antifungal, etc), a larger selection of bandages and pads; minus the above it's just missing an extra tourniquet or three, more clotting products, larger battle dressings, and an extra chest seal or two and the spare pouching to store all of it

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too late for the MBAV edition I see

>>32515782
Knowledge always trumps gear, so here we go.

Chest seal 101

Is there a puncture wound in the thorax?
There is? Ok. Don't panic. Clear the area of clothing/gear/blood. You need enough room for your chest seal on there, so keep that in mind.
Next, open the outer package of your seal, peal it off the backing being careful not to let it fold and stick to itself, and stick it on the wound. Some guys will tell you to do this at the moment the lungs empty, but it makes little difference in the real world.
Almost done. Now, roll the guy over and check the other side. An exit wound? Well gosh, we are going to do the exact thing again. You out of chest seals? Bullshit. You can use the backing from the first one to cover the wound and secure it in place on all sides. Don't stress that flutter valve stuff with the 2 or 3 inch tape that every good IFAK has.

There. Now you know.

>>32516108
don't stress the what with the how?

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>>32514376
in for shitposting LV-MBAV

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>>32515984
I like the effort, and ziplocked gloves are nice.

Now, I have mellowed in my old age and numerous article 15s, so I will tone down my next bit. Unless you are expecting a life threatening menstruation, you have no need for tampons.

I think you should break your first aid stuff up into two categories. First, the things that cope with immediate threats to life. This is your TQs, chest seals, rolled/compressed gauze, ITBs, tape, NPA, NCD (ONLY if you are actually trained, that thing can kill you otherwise), that sort of thing. That's your IFAK stuff.
Next, go through your "nice to have" stuff. Little bands aids, alcohol wipes, assorted pills, and all that. That stuff goes in your pack. I carry a small case with allergy/headache/diarrhea meds in my thigh pocket, but I am a field medic and don't want to go diving in my ruck every time Joe wants a placebo.
>>32516143
In days gone by there was this fixation on one-way valves in chest seals.

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>>32514429
whoah, dude I made it.

>>32516278
So only flutter one chest seal? Or am I misunderstanding. If in right is it best to valve the entrance or exit?
Could you do more 101 med supplies write ups if you had the opportunity? Would be much appreciated.

>>32516278
I agree with all of this. Separate packs for life threatening and "ouch" means your trauma kit doesn't spill to fuck.

Tampons are one of those things that seems intuitive and clever, but ends up being stupid.

>>32515664
Look at the Dark Angel Medical IFAKs for a starting list.

>>32516352
Stupid how, please, they're in there on recommendation of a combat medic.

>>32516278
Everything in yellow is ifak, tampons are there to temporarily plug multiple holes until the responder can get to each one in turn. Everything else is broken up into external pouches on my pack, all the placebos in one with the betadyne and calomine, bandages and spare sheers in another. I'm waiting on a fourth pouch to stuff in the last bits and then I'll probably reorganize so i have an 'immediate response' pouch and all the rest broken up into the other three.

>>32516403
Less effective (and liable to cause damage if you actually stick it all the way in) on a torso than an occlusive seal, and not nearly enough gauze and it won't be packed in correctly in the irregular wound shape for an armpit or groin. Carrying medical gauze and a way to pressure dress it works.

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>>32515664
>babby version
some gauze a TQ and an israeli bandage

>gud version
trauma shears
2 TQ
2 israelis
gauze pads and rolls
something for airway (OPA/NPA)
occlusive dressing

>what i carry
trauma shears
2 TQ
2 israeli
extra gauze
14g chest dart (training advised)
NPA and/or OPA (some training advised)
occlusive dressings
triangular bandages
NSAID + aspirin
forceps
sutures
pen light
iodine and alcohol preps
quick clot sponge
pen light
inhaler

>>32516403
well then he's stolen valor or retarded

there's barely any gauze in a tampon, if you take one apart. if you need to stop a serious bleeder it's not enough to just poke a tampon in there, you're going to need like an order of magnitude more gauze in there to apply sufficient pressure.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RwaaGXOrWW8&feature=youtu.be

http://privatebloggins.ca/?p=1026

>>32516335
No valve at all. I messed up when I moved a sentence around.
>>32516403
Not a competent one.

>>32516446
Ditch tampons, get hyfin seals. They work and are quick and reliable to apply.

>>32516471
NeEVER use tampons. (just saying in general not directed to you exactly) Tampons SUCK OUT blood they don't just stop it.

>>32516508
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>>32516449
Wonderful, thanks for the save.

>>32515178
where dem PICS DOE

yeah i saw the boxes under and was mirin desu

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>>32514408
Feel free to RATfuck the MRE
and skip the razors

>>32516508
I have heard that from every medic I've ever learned from, but didn't want to proclaim it without a citation.

But yeah, no bueno on those things. Hyfins, gauze, ACE/Israeli bandage, TQs, and medical tape is enough for 99% of first response by non-medics. I've had a lot of supplementary training and still want to pass of a casualty like a hot potato to a real doctor. The amount of people who think they are combat medical badasses from watching a few YouTube videos is shocking.

>>32514884
sup wit fal desu

>>32516546

i think the use of tampons was just a meme perpetrated by grunts

>>32516573
I figured. It's one of those things that seems intuitive if you don't think about it too hard.

>>32516532
I don't actually have any. The eagle is up at my parents house. I also have a goose. I need to get that from them. My mom wanted to keep it though as he passed away just before I moved out of the house, I didn't want to take something from her father from her. But it's been like a decade now so I don't feel as bad asking to take it back. He made birds for everyone, she got a cool looking roadrunner with a lizard in his mouth.

>>32516589

yeah same with the whole "put a wallet in the mouth of a seizing person so they don't bite off their tongue" thing

>>32516403
I'll bet you it wasn't a combat medic. I bet it was a guy who went to CLS and tried to dazzle your civilian mind with acronyms and implications.

>>32516612
I'm really sad I didn't get a set of these, but I'm broke af

>>32516635
I hope to make them more available to the public in the future.

>>32516282
I didn't :(

>>32516671
Fuck yeah

>>32516108
>>32516143
it used to be taught to only tape down three sides to make a sort of valve to let air escape, but now they teach all 4 sides.

bring multiple chest seals, but a fucking mre bag and tape can be a good chest seal

>>32516714
Its weird, inna basic both times they said all 4, a year later in EMT classes they said just 3. I DONT KNOW WHAT TO DO

>>32516726
TCCC says tape them all down. DIY valves usually cause more harm than work properly.

If you really want a vented seal, carry Ashermans.

>>32516726
Every cls class Ive been to the story has been
>we used to do three, but now it's four.

>>32516750
>>32516745
ALRIGHT I'll keep practicing 4. Glad we settled this one

>>32516714
Yeah the school of thought is that there is enough blood to make the liquid seal. Tape all corners apparently. I would think it wouldn't properly seal if there were more holes or something on there. What he forgot to tell you is that you need to put vaseline on it.

>>32516612
What other camos will you be making?
How much for me to get my hands on some?

>>32516623
Nah, he just said he uses them to keep a wound contained while he deals with the worst injuries first. that's literally all he said on the matter when I started talking about building my ifak and getting a 'dumb grunt' medical kit strapped to my threeday

>>32516745
Are you fucking retarded? Do you not know how a tension pneumothorax or hemothorax works?

Nigger. You 1 way valve it. What you just told him is to cap off the hole. Taping all 4 sides doesn't allow the air to escape. So there is no way for the air to escape the pleural and thoracic cavity... meaining the lung doesn't completely fill and complete the respiration cycle, there is pressure on the medial steinum or however is spelled.

Like fugg friendo, just stop giving medical advice. I don't need to know how to spell everything to know, you're probably going to get someone killed.

>>32516758

do you NEED to put vaseline on? i figure it would help make a better seal but i dont think its required for it to work.

>>32516794
Yet everybody teaches us to tape 4 sides. Guess the world is wrong and your right.

>>32516778
That makes no sense for many of the above posted reasons^

You don't start doing invasive, time consuming stuff on a mass casualty situation.

In any case, your "dumb grunt" kit shouldn't be loaded out with mascas stuff anyway.

At least read some modern FMs and soldier skill books start to finish for medical. Not as good as real training, but it should help you identity nonsense when you encounter it.

>>32516794
aren't most chest seals now built for "burping" by unsealing the corner with the pull tab?

>>32516803

but if you tape all four sides how do you let air escape?

>>32516573
I think the consensus was that it does absorb the bleeding, but it's not sterile, so...

>>32516758
I have been doing the medic thing for a while and never encountered the Vaseline thing.
>>32516778
This story sounds like total nonsense. Any bleeding a tampon will manage is not life threatening.

>>32516814

i find it hard to believe a device that is shoved inside the vagina ISN'T sterile in some way.

>>32516826
its not. Skinny Medic just did a video on the whole Tampon vs Compressed Gauze

>>32516794
TCCC uses fully occlusive for both DIY and factory made seals. Factory vented seals are acceptable, but DIY valves tend (based on TCCC guidelines) to not work as intended. A fully occlusive DIY will definitely not let air in. Factory made Hyfin seals don't have valves or provisions for them either.

If tension in the chest develops- which is not guaranteed, AND if a real medic isn't around to take over- that's why decompression needles exist.

>>32516809
>What is a decompression needle

>>32516807
Wait, he's got a point, popping a tamp into a hole is pretty fast and it MIGHT keep a bleed contained in the hole long enough to address any more serious wounds before pulling it and packing properly. Then again, I've never seen anyone dumb enough to plug and then unplug the bullet holes on a casualty. It's clear that whomever this mystery medic is, he was talking about using them on your most immediate patient as you work on them. that's valuable space i'd rather pack gauze rolls in though.

>>32516826
They're not. The industry has no legal requirement to sterilize tampons and menstrual pads.

The vagina isn't a wound.

Think about q-tips. They're not sterile either.

>>32516858

well sure if you're using a needle, but if you're just doing a chest seal you only tape 3 sides.

>>32516840
>>32516870
Disregard that monologue, I clearly suck cocks, link on that video, I'm suddenly curious.

>>32516825
Okay in BLS units, the jerry-rigged thing I've seen done is Vaseline gauze packs ripped open, take the gauze out, then place the package over the hole on the chest. Tape 3 sides with the opening on the side facing twards the ground.

>>32516808
From what I remember with Hyfins the 3 holes on it let the air kinda leak out but the blood makes a liquid seal essentially.

How about you guys get a primer on this shit. I'd recommend just getting some hyfins before we all 'tism over home made chest seals.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZO5EEILnAA

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Sorry if it's off-topic I just wanted to ask a quick question in case anyone knew.
Is the Henry Octagon Frontier always scope-ready? I'd hate to buy one from a dealer and have it not be.

>>32516759
Not sure on exact camos yet, prices are on my site.

>>32516888

maybe ohio departments are just better funded but can your guys really not afford chest seals?

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>>32516888
having hyfins in my IFAK makes me feel better than having to nigger rig one on short notice.

Does anybody have any pics of an OD molle belt with a multimeme plate carrier? Preferably a jpc?

>>32516794
you use a NCD to deal with tension pneumothorax.

>>32516825
Ive also never heard of vaseline + chest seal, but Ive only had your simple cls classes. I pay attention, so maybe thats a theory/advanced technique

>>32516873
well, you should be using a needle. far more effective.
>>32516923
I need to restock my ifak. It's barren as fuck right now.

>>32516921
The squad can afford them, it's just what I was taught for backup. It's nice to have contingency. 2 is 1. 1 is none. Right? Also, the Hyfins allow burping but I feel more comfortable just doing 3 sides of gauze tape and moving to the next person.

>>32516923
It's easier because if you're panicking, you're more likely to fuck up. Buying the COTS option works most of the time.

>>32514504
source?

>>32516989

if were talking shtf situations then sure, needle that shit. but if not, needling decompressing someone as a civi is practicing with a license.

Here's you basic vaseline gauze primer.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnyzpWHNpRE

>>32516916
I was referred here, what is your site?
My recommendation is tiger.

>>32516885
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nf_PPQOrKIc&t=327s

>>32517036
I wouldnt want a civie without certs stabbing me with a NCD

but response times are so fucking quick stateside, and treatment is right there. You really shouldnt have time to do much of anything before the emts get there.

>>32517036
DIY valves don't work well. A fully occlusive seal is not a guarantee of causing tension, and even if it does develop, in most civilian situations emergency services should be pushing you aside before it becomes an issue.

But whatever, you do you and try to fuck around with Vasoline and finicky DIY relief valves in a high stress situation. Just don't do that shot to me.

>>32517064
You shouldn't. But some localities are fucking dumb as shit and slow.

>>32516871
You can buy sterile Q-tips though.

>>32517075
Then if you're so far in the boonies you make a judgement call and stick somebody.

>>32517067
you imagine tryin to operate with this fuck ass inna woods and hes gets a sucking chest wound and now he need to get out a cabinet of bullshit to stop the sucking chest wound. Lol, if I opened your IFAK and found that shit, id let you die.

>mfw tards forget IFAKs are for you
just buy a chest seal asshat. Its easier for normies to use

>>32517102
You can, but I haven't seen sterile tampons so far.

>>32517108
ive got no problem sticking someone. But not sure id want bubba doing it to me.

>>32517067

i dont like the vasoline part because it just means you have sticky goop on your hands and on the patient.

>>32514837

I like your style anon.

>>32517054
cantactical.com , no kidding I was looking into that pattern.

>>32517181
You know, if you could get a good supplier for fabric you could make some real money off this.

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Just tidied up my chest rig contents. Got things nice and reset and cleaned up. The whole chest rig closes up without anything spilling out or looking messy.

>>32517211
Oh I know a certain chinese guy from PA who sells fabric......maybe something /k/lorious could come...

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>>32517219
And closed with contents.

>>32517181
It's an awesome pattern that's kind of underrated these days. It blends in really well in the swamps of the south.

>>32517057
So clearly somebody needs to make an oversize sterile tampon design to pack gauze into a GSW quickly, that or find sterile tampons and just pack six into each wound.

This sounds retarded, I'll stop now.

>>32517120
https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/ladies-tampons-sterile-medical-tampon_60345176175.html
Joke is on you, China has them.

>>32517222
Ripstop fabric?

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>>32514376
>>32514396
>>32514404
>>32514429
it's really cool that this is a thing again.

>>32517371
I dont know when he gets back from china ask max. Or I will.

>>32517391
Thanks
Inshallah :^)

>>32514724
How's your health doing bud?

>>32517403
hey man, im curious if you know if Cossack militia kits for rostov rising will allow chicoms. a buddy an i are planning on going in telnyashkas, 3 hole balaclavas, woodland pants, chicoms, czech backpacks and green European surplus jackets.

>>32517429
Yeah they're fine. Militia kit can be almost anything that isn't high speed

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>>32517438
think they would let me bring my AR if i dropped the sight and put a BFA on it?

>>32517454
Probably, that's what D60 idiot is doing. Might want slap a shitty bushmaster stock on it though

>>32517471
alright last question thank you for the answers

http://www.evike.com/products/42744/

is my airshit gun too shitty? idk if it will survive the whole event. I have to decide if i want to pay for midcaps and spare batteries or buy a fuck load of blanks and a bfa and hope they let me bring my rifle.

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>>32517498
CYMA AKs are actually really good, especially if they're the actual stamped ones. For the blanks all you do is ask the milsimwest page on facebook and they ask you some basic questions. I'd personally do blanks because people don't bring enough. Last event our squad had most of the blanks on our team.

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>>32517238
>>32517219
Where does your knife fit.

>>32517560
>hiding behind the bleachers so the cool kids dont make fun of you

I know your game...

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>>32515642
Whatever works for you.
I think they look silly on an aesthetic level and those holes would rip if you were to mount molle pouches and do a low crawl, but that's just me.

>>32516032
What plate carrier is that?

>>32516675
It's alright, I like your mbitr

>>32517219
>>32517238
ever try one of those maglula clipazine spoons?
Excellent kit.

>>32517560
The knife actually goes on a belt, but it happened to be in the picture because this was part of a full gear layout I did.

>>32517597
>maglula clipazine spoons
Big plastic thing with a plunger for rifle ammo? No, never used anything except GI clip loaders. I don't think I'd fit a big mag filler in my kit anyway.

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Hey lads, found a British 2013 issue PCS Multicam smock. Looks like a step up from the 2010 issue with:
>fleece lined hand warmers added
>internal mesh lining added
>fabric to cover the buttons top prevent snagging
>shoulder pockets
Plus other things.

Anyone own one? Rate it?
It's about 50 GBP delivered, so it's still under half the price of a Gucci brand smock.

Pic related

>>32517597
nice meme sir

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Got my lightweight/range rig almost finished, just have to replace that black pouch with one that matches.

>>32516032
>I just want to do operator shit with my friends...

>>32517454
FUCKING FINALLY. and if you can find a bfa that works with the lantac be my guest, I'll even let you use my 30rnd magazines if you come out east you cuckifornian. But my lantac is loctited and I'm not taking it off to install a bfa.

>>32516032
is it just me or is that plate way too low? or is that where its supposed to sit?

>>32516032
Needed pics by the last thread m80, try for the next issue.

Speaking of which what should be the gear of the month? Someone said PCUs but that's a jacket and not really gear

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>>32517634
>Big plastic thing with a plunger for rifle ammo?
Maybe?
What I'm talking about is pic related, although not as compact as the USGI spoon, it makes feeding mags with the clips less of a chore.

>>32517649
I try

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bumpin with muh rig

>>32517954
i would count it
inclement weather clothing, boots, and packs should all fall within GQ

>>32517971
neat, whose woodland set is that?

>>32517597
how much did the dr. mervin LV-MBAV cost again?

>>32517928
well i'm going to rostov rising which is in commiefornia.

honestly the amount of shit i would have to do to my ar to make it work is not really worth it. My buddy is bringing his ak-74 and im sure i will pop some blank rounds at hato with that. Im just gonna bring my ak and run around screaming in russian.

>>32517954
do a helmet edition.

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for nick, everyone else kys

>>32517640
Bumpin as I wanna request an invoice but want input

>>32518062
Which helmet?
>>32518069
Tell Nick to khs

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>>32517971
>too short to be Aryan

>>32517966
Yeah, that's what I was thinking of. I'm sure it's smooth to use, but the compactness of the GI clip guide just makes it super handy to tuck away. I try to keep my kit organized and without too much jinglejangle, and something like that wouldn't fit in an Otis pouch.

Here's a close up of my Skub can which fits perfectly inside a ChiCom grenade/GP pouch.

>>32518087
kys with your shit tier ar

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>>32518093
PB you're a nigger

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>>32518091

>>32518100
(you) me when you get a decent ar senpai

>>32518104
Can you give the recipe?

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>>32518111
AR is Noice senpai, you just hate my rail and paint job

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>>32517454
Like he said, that's what I'm doing.
Try to use a Hollywood BFA since milspec looks like shit

>>32517391
What vest/PC/ whatever is that?

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>>32518129
add sling, light, and mount

>>32518138
I question myself at times.

>>32518153
What's wrong with a QD fagpul sling? I ain't buying that vickers shit you fags circle jerk over
And I like the QD mount and the company, they're good people
Light I'll give you, it has started to eat batteries with zero use, but it has worked well for what I've used it for. I was to poor for surefire at the time.

>>32518169
doesn't the metal hardware rattle?

>>32518183
No?

>>32518169
>I ain't buying that vickers shit you fags circle jerk over
you will forever be airshit

>>32518087
HHV ATE maybe? Opscore stuff in a 400 dollar package, I like mine.

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>>32518015
flash force industries attempt at g3 set

>>32518088
thats mexibros for you. though you cant forget the whermacht had many foreign volunteers

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>>32518129
Oh shit large tripfriend I didn't realize you were my fellow Mando pham poster.
I have a big ass mythosaur decal on my truck and I went to comic con in Mando armor when I was in highschool

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>>32518198
Noted
>>32518203
I'll look into it

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>>32518117
No Skub left in it anymore. I licked it clean long ago of that.

Current contents are a spool of tripwire, 9v battery (taped to prevent it from accidentally discharging), a mini emergency IR beacon, a roll of electrical tape, matches, and a lens cloth from an M40 mask kit (this can double as a large particulate filter for water before it is purified with tablets). Normally the can is water sealed with electrical tape.

>>32518015
1534.37 PLN = 364.38 usd
went through paypal 4 u

>>32518091
I hear ya, I still keep usgi spoons as a fail safe on my person, but if I'm carrying a few bandoliers in my pack I usually end up taping the magulula spoon to a bandolier strap.

>>32518104
>Bringing SKUB to and ANTI-SKUB forum
careful with that you'll start a flame war.

>>32518209
>I have a big ass mythosaur decal on my truck
autism

>>32518225
Rude dude

>>32518239
that is pretty autistic

>>32518224
oh shit that's expensive
any idea how it compares to the other copies like the FFI or the Toy Soldier ones?

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>>32518209
Shiiiieeet
Was the armor custom? I wanted to make some when I was younger but could never figure out a good way to do it. I wanted to get some of this because despite all the autism comments it looks cool as fuck. I was disappointed that I couldn't buy the face part separately to put on an actual helmet instead of an airshit one. The chest piece is just plastic mold that hooks onto a PC
>>32518220
Well damn
>>32518224
>>Bringing SKUB to and ANTI-SKUB forum
Get out

>>32518203
Stop the shilling, your piece of shit is nowhere near to be comparable to ops-core.

>>32518253
It's not THAT expensive compared to other quality PCs.

>>32518100
>>32518129
Just fucking why?

Why do you want your handguard to extend almost past your muzzle?

This is a fucking "AR magazine" tier meme and it needs to die.

>>32518259
DEWEY WAS RIGHT
FUCK SCUB!!!!

>>32518287
>SCUB
>Not SKUB

Faggot.

When's Armorious showing back up, i kind of want a prelim eval on this shoulder rig experiment before the plate carriers arrive.

>>32518259
Yeah I build the armor from abs plastic. I used a rubies 1 piece jango helmet as a base. The second largest costume group behind the 501st is dedicated to mandalorian customs. They have a bunch of tutorials and shit.

That Galactictac shit is pretty neat it would be fun to own but it's stupidly expensive

>>32518154
are you saying I'm cute, anon?

>>32518268
that's true but i already have a slick from spiritus systems

i was hoping for something more scalable is all

is dr. mervin still making them?

>>32518262
This is true

HHV and CPG are basically china clones brought to the US.

>>32518259
>Well damn

I like having a lot of things handy, yet compact and try to make items as multipurpose as possible.

Unless your "damn" was directed at the lack of skub, in which case, yeah it's been hard to get ahold of since like 2014.

>>32518285
Cause I like it, or rather liked it. The only reason I built an AR was because I saw one of those warsport LVOAs with boba fett stuff and I like Boba Fett and thought it looked cool. And I still think it looks cool, but the rail I bought is a pain in the ass. The screws are hard to seat right and consequently I have stripped them like 2-3 times which I then have to tap and dye to fix. The comp I picked is awesome, but it blows hot gas back onto my hand so I have to wear gloves to shoot it. I'll probably get a geissele rail at some point; aesthetically I love it, but functionally it's awful
>>32518287
You need to leave
>>32518316
Yeah it was the skub lol

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>>32516032
>>32516213
>>32517597
c-can i play too?

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>>32518376
also finished HATO kit for grozny

>>32518207
you lost your chance when you didn't take Germany up on the Zimmerman telegram

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>>32518253
It's pretty cheap compared to my Crye AVS, and the other PCs I've invested in.

>Toysoldier is junk
>FFL I didn't like the looks of the mounting system.

>>32518259
Bring it SKUBkek

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>>32518393
>UCP
You had one job, Also
>Hato
Remember to say hi to us when you're retreating

>>32518393
What carrier is that?

>>32518445
looks like a PACA

I saw Skeletor finally got some sucker to buy his stolen bomber jacket a couple generals ago.

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>>32518425
the camo wasn't my call unfortunately
>>32518445
point blank PACA
Eagle RRV

>>32518220
Drop me some knowledge on the uses of tripwire that isn't boobytraps.

>>32517545
do you have to be 21 to bring a blank gun? also im about to get a 117, what else should i get? helmet gopro mount? I read on MSW site that you need to be a squad leader or some shit to have a radio.

>>32518484
Wait, he stole it? No, wait, this is banter again, isn't it?

>>32518262
I mean, it's comfy, it looks good, and it'll stop bullets. I've worn maritimes I just can't justify spending 2k on one. (That's why I buy 5k worth of drifire cryes instead)

>>32518500
Yes
Don't you have a 6b47?
Most people let TL's have them but yeah unless you are SL don't even speak on the radio. I had one but didn't really use it

>>32518500
That's absolutely retarded, it should be a platoon commo spechie that gets the radio.

>>32518518
yeah ive got a 6b47 and 6b45, see >>32516923

OH and i need a VKBO uniform.

>>32518405
yeah, i have some pretty expensive shit but i'm a fucking cheapskate so i buy stuff when it's on sale or secondhand

eg:
LBT 6094s ~$200
Mayflower APC ~$160
Asgaard Tactical PC + Snigel Design pouches ~ $150

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>>32518062
helmet edition?
helmet edition

not pictured is my nod that i don't have an arm for yet

>>32518495
I assume this is his E&E/survival kit so they can be used to make snares for game.

>>32518144
it's ranger body armor.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ranger_Body_Armor

i found it for $50 at my local surplus store.

>>32518393
disgusting hato pig in snow man camo

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>>32518507
You really can't handle the bantz, can you? Fucking lurk more.

>>32518528
They make gopro mounts for the rhino mount, they're like $30 on amazon.
Past that, if the 117 doesn't come with a pack (it should) get the pack that it comes with, they're like $50. And green one hole balaclava

>RUPoshta decides they're done working until the 8th
>6b23, 6b28, 1P63 Obzor, and a bunch of other Slav goodies are going to be delayed because of this
Fuck do I fucking hate RUPoshta.

>>32518312
You have summoned the armor demon what is your request?

>>32518561
my 6b47 came with a balaclava, ill get a thinner one if im to go to the VA one in the summer. where can i find the assault pack? and i was planning on a rail mount for the gopro but since i will not be able to have NODs by the time i can attend, might as well get a rhino mount.

>>32518599
ruskies pretty much shut down around new years.

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>>32518609

>>32518138
whats the tube thingy?

>>32518545
This. My area is saturated with rabbits.

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>>32518609
Platform fits, this is as high as i can get it to climb, anything i should modify or plan for while the plate pouches are en route?

>>32518649
tasco 4x15 so I can see HATO better when they're far away
Added it because I could, it weighs almost nothing

>>32518649
Goes down your airway to keep it open

>>32518699
You need to get it as high up as possible. but since it's a drop leg reverse the clip and have the clip rest above the shoulders.should get your carrier to rise .50 inches to 1 full inch. What kind of rifle do you plan to shoulder?

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>>32518737
Just finished my belt system it's the 6th iteration. Basically uses a similar walk in system as the one clip velcro crye cage system but for a belt. Rear 8x8 level 3 + plate for Spine protection while still allowing to be seated in a vehicle properly. Also I have that dead rag on there to trigger any autists with reeeee memes.

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>>32516612
Does that mean you have the second batch? I'm scared I won't get mine

>>32518737
>shouldering
Mossberg MVP, M1a, a DPMS AR10, and a Rem 870 in a BU bullpup kit.

>get it higher
I'd have to eliminate the upper round-the-thigh strap and possibly sew hookside velco onto the belt adjustment portion

Flipping the belt loop around might actually give me enough slack to get rid of the strap hanging out the bottom, thanks.

>>32518780
pouches were swapped out for quiet non velcro smoke grenade clip pouches and the 40 rd pmag was causing mobily restrictions. Hence it was replaced with a 30rd lancer to reduce weight and improve ergonomics.

>>32518780
>not just using a tacticum belt

>>32518785
if your gonna run rifle plates gravity will drop the shoulders down unless they are ultra lite poly/ceramic plates. Think of it as running a micro plate carrier for your arms. You may have to adjust your shouldering position due to more frontal material. It was why I went with hoplite it may have limited coverage but it allows me to properly position my curved tavor stock.

>>32518829
Mm, on the plus side, if the forward "roundel" plate sucks ass for shouldering, it's a loss of a cheap side panel carrier instead of hoplite's proprietary system and still boasts more coverage and protection for half the price point at worst, even with ultralights. Just getting the platform to sit right and high enough is the main hassle. The only real cost outside of it being an adhoc system than purposebuilt like the HASP is probably bulk, but hey, you get what you pay for and what you put the time into, so i might actually tech the build up and keep it on my rig.

>>32518393
yes. UCP needs to see more use on NATO
>cheap uniforms
>cheap gear
>deters wanna be operator faggots
Id love to play nato side as regular infantry, not some weird ass special forces platoon

>>32518425
that shit reel got me legit mad.

>it's airsoft they cant reach us so we'll move slow as fuck in the open
>because we moved in the open rusfor knows where we're comig from, but leadership is still going to push us through the same areas

>>32518699
Just had an outside the box moment,I noticed the upper pals webbing and thought to
remove the upper belt clip system .and use either molle or malice clips to support the carrier for the shoulders. if your shoulder straps can support side molle attachments That should simplify it and reduce bulk while making it more durable and less prone to shifting. Try that out

>>32518914
Imagine a TRADOC plt.
>IBA's
>Two USGI mag pouches
>ate up IFAK
>UCP everything
and most importantly
>PT Belt

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>>32518610
Grab one of these
http://www.specialrussianshop.com/index.php?cat=23&page=1
>>32518914
I mean yeah, HATO was dumb as fuck

>>32518949
national guard unit
>flcs and achs
>not even everyone has a flc.
>saw gunners have flcs with m4 pouches, has to stuff belts (or bbs I guess) in pockets and his canteen pouches.

pvs7s and peq2s for everyone

the whole platoon has 9 grenades

>>32518940
It's an ALICE y-suspender right now, so I'm forced to muck around with the belt clip configuration, an affordable lbe with molle all the way up the suspenders is on my list, but low in priority. Also, 6x8 panels will ride higher from the same point as a 6x6, so, between folding the attachment point over and 6x8s riding over the top edge of the platform, it should sit at a proper height in the interim.

>>32519023
>pvs7s and peq2s
That would have been ok 11 years ago.

>>32519023
Don't forget M16A2s and ALICE packs

>>32518783
I don't have it yet but it should be too me soon, the set in that picture isn't my set. You will get yours soon hopefully.

>>32519062
a4s more likely. even our pog units have a4s. my unit is mixed, we have pvs14, m4s, really nice saws and 240s, generally nice shit. We just have a shortage of pistols (whatever) and basically no body armor

>>32519128
Well I'm active so I don't know crap about that, I was basing my opinion on my BCT.

>>32518508
I mean why buy something like that that's basically Chinese? Older ops-core models are there for $900 brand new. If you can't afford that better get a fucking ach than chinkshit.

>>32518508
you're over paying if its costing you 2 grand for a maritime helmet. 1800 gets you a boltless american made .308 rated helmet. that's weighs roughly 3 lbs in mich config and lighter then 3lbs in maritime. No point in buying an opscore anymore.

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>>32519275
1800 was with shipping included the rails and dial system and 3 hole

>>32519232
It works and because it's way more comfortable than a fucking ACH

>>32519284
Do you have pics of the boltless rail system installed on the helmet?

>>32519323
>It works
You know that's kinda debatable. Just admit that you are a faggot and base your gear purchases solely on the looks.

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>>32519345
yea I don't have an as-600 just an opscore high cut with a front SLAAP plate installed. As-600 is light years better for the same price total ak 7.62 protection at 2100 fps v0 so with a .60 inch thick slaap plate, the front would stop full powered 2800 fps .308 and MSC stuff. It's poly so M855 would still zip through but m193 might be stopped with the slaap plate but it's unknown what would happen if m193 5.56 just struck the helmet alone.

>>32519408
Neat.I'll have to remember that something like this exists if I get the dosh to afford one. First I want to get a PVS-14 unfilmed.

How hot are smocks. I'm considering buying one because I live in the swamp and like the idea of only getting the smock muddy but the swamp is also hot as fuck and I don't want to pass out. I see the In range guys on youtube where them alot in arizona but it might have been a cold day over there.

tl;dr are smocks hot?

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>>32519491
wut bag iz gud?

I have one of those shitty chinese 3P Oxford bags and I hate it. The straps are fucking shit and constantly come undone and the shoulder straps have "buckles" at the top and bottom so they are never right.

What can I get that doesn't cost an arm and a leg that isn't junk but the same approximate size as the "Oxford" with decent molle?

I use it for range trips and the occasional PRS style match.

>>32519491
AZ fag here, dry =/= wet heat. I don't know much about smocks but I've worn Gore-Tex rain suit in the service and it got uncomfortable after 5 minutes of marching, even when the vents were open.

>>32519490
TNVC with a military discount I was looking at around 15% off of 4000 dollars.

>>32519534
didn't mean to reply... I'm a moron.

Enjoy your free (you)

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>>32519408
my helmet as it is setup right now.

>>32519534
I hzve a tactical tailor removable operator pack. Only cost me $67 for multimeme one on sale.

guys im about to make this purchase of a flecktarn bdu pants and a flecktarn combat shirt.


any objections? should i go with multimemecam instead

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>>32519584

>>32519587
how dry is your local area?

>>32519552
>>32519534
have one in return.

In terms of backpacks I just use a black LL bean backpack because I go mostly greyman and they are really good quality with a lifetime warranty. I just get shit that matches my gear color scheme because I'm a kinda newgear faggot.
>>32519587
do it faggot.

>>32519612
im in Delaware, so its green in the summer, cold winters like new jersey or philly but everything dies in the winter and turns tan, multicams are too light for the winter, perfect in summer

while flecktarn is good for the green summer, too dark for winter

>>32519645
I would go with one of these camos unless they can do a custom run of flecktarn will never have the market for custom shit as much as multimeme or od green/coyote will.

>>32519684
drinking to much tonight forgot to post the link http://www.esstac.com/camo-patterns

>>32514656
its antivenin and how the fuck did you get it if you're not full of fucking shit.

>>32519743
Helps to know people. even if you can't get that, get the bug sting stuff or something close to help

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>>32518531
I'm the same way
The original intent on getting it was my desire to try out the Lv-mbav design concepts without investing 1000-1500usd on something I didn't know I'd like.
So I went with a respected tailor who made solid reproductions of the PC with good materials and so far I have zero regrets.

>>32515307
Did you paint parts of your AR silver?

>>32519684
are you implying i get one of those camos so i can get a matching daeodon plate carrier?

>>32519803
no Just food for thought if you want to get a common camo that will allow more customization of your equipment in the future.

>>32519821
my gear is all coyote tan, i just get diffrent sets of BDU camos because the coyote matches everything for the gucci eye appeal

>>32519833
if that's the case cadpat or flecktarn would serve you well. coyote is darker then multi meme by quite a bit. IF you wanta good selection of gucci level outfits https://www.invadergear.com/c/en/Field-Pants/1017/

>>32519877
invader gear is made in austria and not some shitty china junk.

>>32519877
damn never seen them beforfe. gotta get me a set of woodland BDUS and some multi cams


gucci

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>>32519919
Wrong

>>32519955
checked combo dubz you're getting high quality stuff with some reviews problem is most reviews are air shItters. Personally be buying my next set of multi meme pants through these folks.

>>32519919
>>32519991
WEW

>>32519991
pakistan = rothco well guess it's crye or platatac mk4's then.

>>32519991
whoops posted the knock offs by mistake bookmarked the real ones.http://www.tacwrk.com/en/crye-precision-g3-combat-pants-flecktarn-18069

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>>32519996
I have actual cryes to compare them against too.

They are not anywhere close in terms of material, stitch count, or anything else for that matter. Even the cut is wrong in some areas.

>>32520016
Rothco isn't "good" either.

>>32520045
No, you knew what you were doing. Why else would you say "selection" here: >>32519877


You were wrong, no amount of damage control is going to fix that.

>>32520045
>damage control

>>32520048
I am aware I consider rothco as the worse period worst then condor shit.

>>32520084
>damage control

>>32520084
Are you fucking retarded?

>>32516903
Yes

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>>32520090
Drinking not retarded m8. Good luck on your search for non shit tier clothing found my limited run special projects stuff years ago. I doubt you will ever see anyone in this murica with this in regular medium ever. I could sell a couple unopened ones with some new external elbow inserts on fleabay for 300 each just becuase haley strategic was the importer of these from australia which never happened.

>>32520164
Changing the topic when confronted only proves you actually are autisticly retarded.

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>>32520164
>he's a gay autistic retard