Best AK for $700 or less?

Anything from IO Inc. is good.

>>32501480
Way to maximize the value of your dollar by buying an inferior product, just get another century made gun dummy

>>32501480
DDi is good

>>32501491
>>32501503

I've watched those fail horribly on AK operators union. No.

>>32501498

I paid $200 for it and got 3000rds out of it. While I definitely won't buy another century again for full price, for $200 I can't complain.

wasr, dummy

>>32501547
You literally shot down your options, unless you want to buy used.

>>32501547
Wasr.
Also how did your c39 break?

>>32501589
I got the one with magpul furniture. After putting the 3k rounds through it the screw worked itself loose and dropped the nut in the reciever. Didnt notice as the stock was still secure. Pulled the trigger, bent the hammer spring and pin retention spring. Ordered new parts to fix it, but kinda want to get out of the rifle as some of the internals also have some excessive wear.

where do you live OP? I'm looking to sell my wasr

>>32501600
Washington

>>32501607
ooh...oh....
you gonna be goin thru tennessee anytime soon?

Isn't the C39V2 supposed to worth the money?

>>32501503
This. DDI is the gold standard of AK's.

>>32501547
>AK operators union
Rob is a poseur, just like the rest of Youtube. He gives bad reviews because he knows it generates views.

>>32501637
I-I live in Tennessee, anon. Want to hang out?

>>32501712
Yes. Yes I do.

What part?

>>32501714
>Yes. Yes I do.
Maybe I'll see you at the meet then.

>>32501727
where's it gonna be?

The AK market sucks right now
If you don't already have one consider an AR

>>32501759
For american AK maybe, you just have to buy an SLR or a Vepr.

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>AKs are dirt cheap
>Everyone likes them
>More faggots buying them
>Prices shoot up to 650 for a fucking shit quality rifle
>GUISE I wanna good rifle under 700

Fuck you

>>32501712
>ddi
> gold standard of anything besides being a second rate io

>>32501895
>tfw buy wasr for 500 bucks 2 years ago
>now it's a 700+ dollar rifle

lmao get fucked cia niggers

>>32501480
Nobody giving the yugo any love.
Try to find an m70. Its got the grenade launching sights. Thing is built like a tank. I'm about a thousand rounds in and it just is starting to really be broken in

>>32501480
Nothing. If you want a good AK be prepared to drop $1000 these days.

>>32501480
Why are AK's so expensive? I thought in Lord of War it was cheaper to buy real AK's than prop AK's now they're pricey as fuck. No way ragheads would buy those for their shitty soldiers for the prices they are now.

Are they cheaper in the middle east or something?

>>32501935
Because they aren't cheap to make, at least not for small manufacturers. That's why all the cheap ones relied on parts kits. But those no longer exist in quantity.

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>>32501480
Just save more and get an Arsenal.

Ak market is shit now. Don't expect anything good for under $900. The ar market is where the deals are at now.

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>>32501480
See, I too am a broke college boy. I too wanted an AK, anf I too told myself that I wouldn't spend more than $700 at that stupid gunshow on one.

But then I drove home with a $1000 SLR because 5.45 memes.

Life is funny like that sometimes.

>>32502029
How uncomfortable are the triangles?

>>32501480
Yugo N-PAP.

>>32501656
Debatable.
It's usually passable but it's not as good as a WASR.

>>32501771
Vepr is very good.

>>32502048
Depends on the weather. Generally they aren't bad and provide a decent cheekweld. I prefer the full stock

>>32502056
VEPR is great rifle but I would never own one in 545 or 762x39.

>>32502064
Why?

>>32502077
It's too heavy. While the weight will reduce recoil you need to ask yourself if you're willing to carry that around for however long. I'd rather carry extra ammo or water in place of added weight for little benefit in return. An SLR is lighter and just as accurate.

>>32501637
>>32501712
>>32501714
>>32501727
Middle TN checking in

>>32502145
wish I lived there, living in west TN is suffering. only range here is a grand a year

>>32501480
Buy a Vepr from Atlantic and slowly upgrade it over time with a new stock, magwell conversion, and handguards. Or just save for longer and get a Vepr FM AK47-11.

>>32502134
That whole extra pound really tuckers you out while running around your house pretending to be a operator.

>>32502166
Well if you're doing nothing but range work it's totally acceptable but go take it hiking or camping and you'll see. That extra pound is another loaded magazine.

>>32502029
>Those weights

twist weights a shit

>>32502160
Don't buy a VEPR unless you want an RPK.

>>32501906
>IO
>explodes, overgassed, front sight doesn't work

>DDI
>breaks extractors

>>32501935
>I thought in Lord of War it was cheaper to buy real AK's than prop AK's now they're pricey as fuck.
they are filming that in a foreign country theres no need to import that shit to america then pay hundreds rebuilding to make them legal.

>>32501964
I've got 3. I'm good on AR's for now.

>>32502174
Weight isnt much of an issue. My AR I use for ranch work weighs 11.7 lbs loaded and I hike a few miles at a time with that and 8 mags.

Also, any of you use the lee armory battlefield pick up or high standard from Atlantic Firearms? They any good for the roughly $700?

WASR or Yugo M70

Do NOT buy an american made AK, including DDI, IO, Century RAS et. all. They will blow up or otherwise fail.

DDI parts kit guns and PSAK47 is gtg though

>>32504843
IO and RAS will maybe explode, maybe
the only real flaw with the DDI's is the extractors, which may or may not already be fixed

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>>32501952

>this

>>32501480
You could find some NPAPS and OPAPS in the $600 range.

Zastava N-PAP is probably the best for your money.

They're a cut above WASRs and cost about the same, as long as you don't mind your stock being Yugo-pattern and it being a bit heavier. Yugo side rails are compatible with both SVD and AK style optics - though AK optics mount a bit higher and further back than they would on a Russian-style rail. There's a company out there that makes side mount rails specifically for the Yugos, so that's a non-issue if you prefer that.

Personally, I prefer them to Bulgarian Arsenals in terms of build quality - though the NPAP's side rail and stock quirks make it ultimately second to the Arsenal.

Saiga is still the standard to beat, though - so maybe you could wait a few months and see what Pres Trump does with the Executive Orders banning Russian imports.

>>32504821
God bless anon.

>>32505058
Eh, its worth it for quarter inch groups at 100m, but, it might be a tad overkill for coyote. Then again though, overkill never killed anyone.

>>32501597
>3000rds
>excessive wear
Wew lad

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>>32508003
That little tail thing has been beaten down and now has a 1-2mm overhang on each side. more to come.

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>>32508003
bolt where it makes contact.

>>32501547
>$200.00 AK
Are we back in 2008? That was not a bad price considering what they go for new. I take it it was used?

Try a go / no go gage, the AK operator guys killed theirs

If it was used 3000 + rnds and they only "wear" is
>>32508079
>>32508091

Then it's really not fucked there annon. The tail wear doesn't look too disastrous, neither does the bolt,

If it/s really bugging you just get a surplus one from apex should just drop in

Other than that I'm guessing a wasr, or save you money and go for a Polish, or Arsenal

>>32508209
I traded one of my grandpa's old rifles for it. He paid $200 for it back when he got it and it was worth like 900 now. I had duplicates of it so I don't feel that bad about it. As for wear, yeah it kinda bothers me, but I mean if its not gonna kill the rifle, I'll keep it going.

>>32505054
except a WASR has more parts availability and a chrome lined barrel
WASR > N-PAP

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dont buy an american produced ak. the npaps are made in serbia, and the wasr's are made in romania

>>32508537
So something like an RH-10 by Cugir would be decent, or is that too Americanized?

>>32508774
guy is retarded
don'y buy an IO or RAS47 ever, don't buy a C39v2 unless it's cheap
DDI may or may not have problems with extractors
they claim it was one bad batch
PSAK47 is fine

that said, buy a WASR-10 unless you want something nice

>>32502145
Middle TN bro

>>32501480
AR-15

>>32508091
thats literally normal.

>>32501480
i think you might be able to find veprs for that cheap maybe

Just buy a draco, throw a shitdick brace on, be happy.

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>>32501491
Why are you trying to kill OP?

>>32501935
>Why are AK's so expensive?

Bush Senior's 1989 import ban and Clinton's anti arms trade deal with Russia.

If it weren't for those two little pieces of policy a genuine Izhmash AKM (minus auto sear) would probably be like $399.

Daily reminder that the NRA has never made even a single cursory attempt to get rid of these import bans.

get a zastava o-pap

>>32509439
>
not currently imported

>>32501607
What part of Washington? Oregonian here.

>>32504836
Lee armory? You from Wisconsin? If they're the same company I've heard horror stories about their builds

>>32509336
This is a good option. Cheapest option and no 922r US made cuck parts

>>32509517
Nope. Wafag here.

>>32510337
I visited their shop in Wisconsin, I was told that's where they do most of their builds.. Am still new to the ak world. But I'm always cautious of us made aks. Some shady business practices, (shop guns being sold in private sales- back and forth transfer of products between company ownership and personal collection.) An uber bubba job done through the shop on a mosin for kicks.. Broke my heart, iirc a 1928 tula. Kept trying to sell it for $1000+.

<2 years ago locals who had purchased the aks from lee started having problems, with the product and business making it right, it all converged into Facebook sperging and name calling..

Tl;dr I'm never buying one, but ymmv

How come nobody seems to be able to make an inexpensive, quality AK like the Russians did?

>>32510432
Pretty sure they're based in Arizona. http://www2.leearmory.us/lee-armory-ak-rifles-2/

>>32501480

WASR is your best bet, VEPR if you don't your AK looking sporterized. The VEPR will need conversion to look like a proper AK.

>>32501597
Sounds to me like the rifle is fine, and you're just being a little bitch because the autistic motherfuckers in /k/ and AKFiles have poisoned your mind.

I swear, between AK, AR, and 1911 fags, I can't tell which group is more toxic.

>>32504920
1 extractor out of 1000 guns sold failed and that only applies to the all american DDI guns, not the parts kit guns...

>>32510977
We don't have an economy of war to throw behind it

>>32508349
I find wasrs generally easier to work on as well

>>32501480
Smith & Wesson M&P 15 Sport 2

>>32511268
They're both, I've been to the shop..

>>32512558
must have missed the part where I said I have 3 AR's. I don't want more.

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Hey guys, trying to buy an ak here.

My budget is up to 1600. I've seen arsenal saiga recommended. Have import restrictions made new Russian made guns impossible? Is buying used from a gun show or private seller a seller a good idea?

I want a former over function gun that'll last me a lifetime with thousands of rounds through it.

Can you give me recommendations?

>>32515056

saigas suck, get a vepr

>>32501480
>$700
>Getting an AK instead of VZ-58

Nigger, wut?

>>32515082
Had a VZ-58. I don't like that it doesn't take standard AK mags. Might get one to compliment a regular AK, but I wouldn't have one on its own.

WASR-10

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>>32501480
see
>>32501952
>>32504982

>>32511538
>mentions VEPR but not Bulgarian SLR's
You'd be paying about as much in the end to have it converted properly
Stop being a fudd and get with the times.

>>32515056
SLR. Every time. No reason to pay for a saiga when right now they're sort of unobtanium and people think because 'muh russia guys' they're worth more. Get a Bulgarian my nigga. No substitutes.