What is the longest "official" rifle-bayonet combination there has been? I'm after actual military service/military ceremonial setups.
Lebel with rosalie if we are talking about the smokeless era.
Other than that, single-shot breechloading rifles from the civil-war era are quite long with bayonet attached.
>>32473125
Thanks anon.
I'm into rifle spinning and looking for new stuff.
>>32473106
My money would be on the Smith Rubin Gewehr 11 with the Faschienenmesser....
>>32473106
Some mosins with bayonets reached 7ft
>>32473371
A genuinely official military setup?
>>32473370
Looks so cool.
Type 38 with its Type 30 bayonet was the longest set up in WWII because the Japs wanted to compensate for having shorter soldiers.
>>32473125
182,5 cm long, to be precise. Perfect for home defense.
Have a propaganda prayer to the bayonet.
>Hail Rosalie, full of charms,
>the Victory is with thee;
>blessed art thou amongst weapons,
>and blessed is your tip, that digs into the entrails of the Boches.
>Holy Rosalie, Mother of Victory,
>pray for us, poor soldiers,
>now and at the hour of revenge. Amen.
Still, french, the Cent Gardes had a saber-spear to go with the Treille de Beaulieu mousqueton. Overall length >2,10m
>>32473370
This was the 'kill-on-sight' bayonet, right?
>>32474158
They were defeated during the franco-prussian war at the battle of the low corridor.
Not a rifle, and not the largest combined length, but behold a bayonet (m/1915) mounted to a puny submachine gun (Swedish K).
The proportions are absurd.
>>32474412
Blade length is 500 mm by the way.
>>32474158
Insane bayonet
>>32474179
Kind of, it was a meme on both sides given everyone knew it was a sapper's tool but because German soldiers heard that it was one it became a morale problem to the point the German military just shaved them off.
>>32474158
OP here, Thank you m8. What a contribution.
>>32474428
That is almost outlandish looking thing. I can't even start to guess where the balance point would be.
Looks like I am not looking for just one combination but there are much more to discover. I honestly did not expect this.
>>32473106
>M1 carbine
>Brazilian flag
>>32474697
If you manage to find a mousqueton des cent gardes to do some spinning with, please post the video here.
They are unregulated in France, but it's a pretty rare and expensive weapon, around 5000€.
A lebel (or even a gras or a chassepot) should be way easier to find. And the bayonets are a dime a dozen.
The fench army was never big on rifle spinning afaik, but they put a lot of emphasis on bayonets until ww1. As a result, you can find a lot of documentation about bayonet fencing.
Maybe some colonial troops had some fancy spin moves, I'll come back if I find something.
>>32475210
>Mosin
>Estonian
>>32475210
Are you retarded?
>>32475989
And?
>>32475995
Was the M1 carbine really the standard issue Brazilian service weapon at one point?
>>32475845
>please post the video here
I will.
However this will take some time and effort though. Geometrically wildly offset balance points will have some handling quirks in spinning routine. What more, I need to study the respective military disciplines and routines to do it right.
Everyone can be a clown while wearing the gear of others. I am not into that kind of thing.
>>32476207
>Was the M1 carbine really the standard issue Brazilian service weapon at one point?
In the BEF it was issued just the same way as it was in the US Army.
>>32473106
brown bess with bayonet. I think, I don't know, you're going to have to look for the longest musket or early rifle with a bayonet, and the longest bayonet, since interchangability wasn't yet a thing, and bayonets were all about the same retardedly long length in that era.
>>32476369
I hear you. Muzzleloaders (especially medieval Japanese ones) were insanely long weapons. Quite clearly they were used as clubs in melee situations.
However there is so little of actual evidence of standard issued bayonets and their use in combat or military ceremonies.
>>32476010
This guy looks like a prepared tourguide through hell.
>>32474181
War truly never changes
Guns turned into the longest stabby weapon possible. Alexandros would be proud RIP
>>32474482
So the British and French were scared by it so they'd attack anyone with one, and the Germans knew they'd be more likely to be shot with it and quit wanting to carry it, even though technically both sides knew it wasn't for use on people?
>>32477642
The Brits spread propaganda about the dirty Hun with their Butcher Blades that were designed to make terrible wounds, and threatened to execute any soldier caught with one. I've no idea if they ever did, but it was enough to scare the Germans into filing the sawteeth off if for no reason other than to improve their own soldiers' confidence.
Don't forget about the wacky Chinese fire lance
>>32477847
>you're in China fighting a rival warlord
>he has some fire lancer
>isn'tevenmadeoffire.webm
>a volley manages to kill some peasant
>you get so embarassed that it actually killed someone that you go home
>Sun Tzu wins the battle of the minds
>>32477847
>China in charge of firearms
Why did China insist on equipping their soldiers with dozens of incompatible firearms anyway? I understand that this wouldn't be super intuitive to someone dropped headfirst into the industrial era, but it took so fucking long for them to get their shit together despite hiring foreign advisors. Did they just not have enough money to buy an army's worth of guns from one nation? I'm picturing them as super-cheap shoppers jumping from country to country and grabbing the lowest deal on any given day.