Oh, what could have been, if Russian economy didnt suck so bad.

As if the Yankee economy was any good
Trump really did save you guys

>>32468204
In 5 years they'll both look the same.

I mean they're both trash so you know.

>>32468204
>that firetruck
Always makes me laugh, like a russian fireman wakes up after a night of drinking, only to find out he took the firetruck for a ride, ended up on the carrier and everyone thought it should be this way, he is now stuck there and on its way to Syria.

>>32468441
>As if the Yankee economy was any good

This is so dumb, that I have to believe you're an American.

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>>32468823
You have been getting cucked by China in every aspect (except muh modern technology)
since long ago


They even bought the blueprints of the raptor f22 kek

>>32468772
I feel like that's probably worryingly close to reality.

>>32468596
The Chinese have got the money to paint their flagship.

>>32468619
>Copy of russian SU-33
>Copy of french Super Frelon
>refurbishing of a russian Kuznetzov class carrier

I'll be impressed the day these fuckers design something entirely new.

>>32472031
They can't. Gooks are incapable of designing anything new.

>>32468955
>They even bought the blueprints of the raptor f22 kek

Wrong, they stole part of the older plans when they hacked Lockheed.
They stole mostly f119 plans.

The issue is, china cannot manufacter almost all of the parts.
Hence why they arnt using their own engines.

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>>32472330
Oh they "" hacked"" the plans,is that what the government told you?

Either way that commie shithole is destined to collapse

>>32468772
Is of very good fire man, he follow all of the much smoke.

>>32468619

> Tovarish I can't go on anymore, I was designed to defeat waves of F-18 not to scare some fishermens.

> Sacrebleu, et I have to carry their zipperheads around while they yell moonrunes and eat dogs. Not even with a side of cheese.

> Eh, stop complaining. At least they have some tastes in ships.

The things that go on in my head.

>>32472031
J15s that can into CATOBAR is something new.

The Hans are doing a 2nd Kutz copy from scratch, then a completely new design with ELM catapults.

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>>32472660
>thread about China
>Post Best Korea
China is a world's first economy, fuckhead.

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>>32472920
Tell me,what's the thickness of your skull?
North Korea is just a proxy a state which China uses to harass its neighborhood,might as well be a Chinese state

>muh China economy
The paper dragon
Pure bluff,just wait till the next mass hunger/revolt episode and China is no more

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>>32473009
>hunger revolt

not with the highest agricultural output of all humanity.

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>>32473020
Yes, once they explode the farms to oblivion, those fields will eventually yield no crops,thus mass starvation

This is how most if not all commie wannabes end up

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>>32473059
Not with China's genetically modified hybrid high yield rice, that is resistant against all known germs and yields 50% more than natural rice, while needing far less water and soil.

China's a high-tech communist technocracy. You Religious Retards will never win against the power of Science and the Might of Human rationality made manifest.

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>>32473079

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>>32473079
Oh yes, when man pretends to be god,things end well
>muh no god
Went so well for the rest didn't it?

Go to China and see how "great" it is

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>>32473091
And you will never break China's quantum communication networks, while Chinese quantum computers and the Taihu Supercomputer (which is the world fastest, using only Chinese designed processors) are wreaking havoc against your obsolete shitcans.

Degenerate LGBT Christfag BTFO.

Atheist Communist Technocracy wins again!

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>>32473107
>Christfag
Lel nope

>>32473107
>And you will never break China's quantum communication networks

currenty its not a quantum communication network, its a quantum crypto network. (it still uses normal methods of actually transmitting data)

>And you will never break China's quantum communication networks

Pure brute force. A literal office building full of racks. The processors are low power, low output garbage.

Oh, and its going to be passed up in about 2 months. Then that will be passed up 6 months or so.

>>32473124
The next iteration of the Taihu aims to at least double the current power.

Which will be 4-times superior to the planned US answer.

>>32473131
>quantity over quality
Standard chink tactics.

>>32473131
Do you pull all those Chinese top secret plans from you ass?

>>32473124
>low power

Low power requirements. The current Taihu is also the world's greenest supercomputer, needing much less power per petaflop than wasteful american counterparts.

>>32473020
>not with the highest agricultural output of all humanity.

And yet they still import 13 billion dollars annually in American agriculture alone, not to mention billions from Europe. They've got almost 1.5 billion people to feed. Their agriculture cannot keep up. God help them if they have a bad harvest or natural disaster that destroys a lot of crops.

>>32473143
>Low power requirements.

Low power due to low output per processor.

Its great for power, but terrible for space management.

>>32473131
>The next iteration of the Taihu aims to at least double the current power.

Thats cute, the next american supercomputer is tripleing the flops of taihu.

>>32473059

Ho lower can your understanding of the world go?

Stop embarrassing yourself.

>>32473139
>>32473157


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3897966/China-develops-new-supercomputer-10-TIMES-faster-current-quickest-machine-world.html?

>The new supercomputer is currently being developed by the National Research Centre of Parallel Computer Engineering & Technology, state-run Xinhua reported on November 2.

>According to CRI English, the supercomputer system has an estimated peak performance of over 1,000 quadrillion calculations per second.

>This is ten times the speed of the current fastest computer.


10 times the speed of the Sunway Taihulight, which the US still cant beat.

>>32473159
Oh sorry wise guy
Tell me,why is my logic bad?
if its basic commie history

>>32473144
That's because Chinese people are growing richer and also want to eat and drink things that are not traditionally grown in China, such as Beef, Milk, Wheat etc.

Diversification is the reason for the imports, not food security.

>>32473164
>dailymail

lel

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>>32473143
I'm beginning to think that all these chink threads are by one troll who really gets off to (You)s.
Now that they've been removed he's suffering from withdrawal symptoms.

>>32473020
>not with the highest agricultural output of all humanity.
t. - doesn't know what per-cap means or why it is important

>>32473009
>North Korea is just a proxy a state which China uses to harass its neighborhood
Absolutely wrong.

>China
>Food production

>In 2009, 53,000 Chinese babies and children were sickened by milk that had been "enhanced" with the chemical melamine. Melamine is bad news for humans, and is similar in composition to cyanide. It's thought the melamine was added in an attempt to increase the protein content of the milk.

>In 2011, a woman bought a pound of pork for dinner. She forgot to put the leftovers away and woke in the middle of the night for some water. That's when she noticed the pork was glowing blue on the table. Analysis by local food safety officials found that the pork was contaminated with phosphorescent bacteria.

>Back in 2010, authorities discovered huge quantities of rice noodles were made with rotten grain and poisonous additives. Specifically, 50 factories in southern China near the city of Dongguan were manufacturing the tainted noodles. Authorities estimated that at the time, up to 1.1 million pounds of noodles were being made everyday by these factories before they were shut down.

>Chinese websites have come out with instructional videos on how to make $70 a day by producing and selling fake eggs. The chemicals that are required are “Alginic Acid, Potassium Alum, Gelatin, Calcium Chloride, water and artificial color.” The eggshells are made from Calcium Carbonate. Eating these eggs may cause memory-loss and dementia.

>China’s fake rice is also called plastic rice. It’s made from potatoes, sweet potatoes, and synthetic resin molded into the shape of real rice. Consuming three bowls of it is equal to consuming one bag of vinyl, or one plastic bag.

>Market vendors in China’s Guangdong Province collected local mud and sold it as black pepper, while their white pepper was mainly made out of flour. His excuse for justifying selling these fake items was that they “would not kill people.”

>>32473185

Explain
Saying its wrong doesn't do anything

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>>32473079
It's not the known germs you have to worry about.

>>32473197
Just usual robber baron capitalism.

You had that as well back in the 30s.

A few executions along with the families and friends of those offenders will solve this issue.

>>32473197
>Yangcheng hairy crabs are the most expensive crabs in China, so it’s no surprise that people would try to pass off regular crabs as the pricier breed. The real deal comes exclusively from Yangcheng Lake, but there are a few sneaky ways around that. For example, some sellers take water from Yangcheng Lake and put other crabs in it for several hours before selling them as Yangchengs. Others use chemicals on the crabs to make them look like Yangcheng crabs.

>Only 1 in every 300 Yangcheng hairy crabs sold is real. The total number of crabs produced from Yangcheng is less than 3,000 tons annually, but more than 100,000 tons of crabs are sold. To counter the fake crabs, the Suzhou Crab Business Association demanded that a plastic ring with a special numerical code be attached to one of the claws of each original Yangcheng hairy crab. That plan soon failed when sellers of the real Yangcheng hairy crabs sold their tags to those selling fakes.

>>32473172
>things that are not traditionally grown in China, such as... Wheat
Fake 50cent detected. An actual Chinaman would know wheat has been a staple in China longer than rice has.

>Diversification is the reason for the imports, not food security.
Pretty good fake 50cent though, I can see Chinese convincing themselves of garbage like this. They love to make propaganda and then start believing it for real, like they didn't invent it as propaganda to begin with.

>Cardboard buns are made from cut cardboard mixed with chemicals and pork flavors. An investigation carried out by CTV showed a video of a seller making the buns, commonly called baozi, out of cardboard. The cardboard is first mixed with caustic soda—which is used in the production of soap and paper—and then cut before being mixed with pork and seasoning.

>The video went viral and was picked up by several international media organizations. The Chinese government responded this time, saying that the foreign media organizations had taken the news too far and that the fake buns were actually a hoax. The reporter who filmed the video was also arrested.

>>32473254
>wheat

Barley, Sorghum. But not wheat.

Wanna hear a joke?
THE GREAT LEAP FORWARD

>>32468204
One of these carriers is filled with nuclear ballistic missiles, anti ship missiles, cruise missiles and anti air missiles.
The other is a shiny polished chinese knock off.

How well do those shitty chinese knock off products people buy usually work?

>>32473259
Yes, wheat. Look it up. The first Chinese agriculture was wheat culture up in the North.

>>32473269
What about it?

Despite its overall bad results, it still managed to create vital infrastructure on which Deng's economic reforms was built on.

Without the roads and railways between the cities and towns built by the worker brigades during GLF, Deng Xiaoping wouldnt be able to attract foreign investors into bringing their factories to China, as they would scoff at the prospect to finance the roads connecting their factories with the harbors, and the rural areas with their millions of cheap surplus labour to their factories.

Industrialization and infrastructure is always good. Worth every single sacrifice.

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>>32473275
Which Su-33 can carry anti-ship missiles?

20 Granit is nothing compared to 24 J-15 that can each carry at least two YJ-83K or YJ-91A anti-ship missiles.

When will Russia finally learn to use their PLANES for anti shipping, and not the Carrier itself?

>>32473294
>overall bad results
That's the answer to your question
Only In a commie shithole

>>32473294
>worth the sacrifice
That's because you aren't the sacrifice

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>>32473311
Roads.

This is a riddle that "libertarian" America will never solve.

>>32473206
There is columnist named Andrei Lankov, he writes god-tier materials on this theme.
Basically, no one tells NK what to do. Even when it's getting ridiculous. China has economical influence on NK, but it is not relationships with "proxy" state. It's not working like that.

>>32473319
Do i gotta post the garbage filled overpass pic, chang?

>>32473079
Man, the only thing wrong with the way we handle genetically modified crops here is the bullshit way that companies are using it to basically try and say they own wheat and other staple foods that we've been using since the dawn of recorded history. More specifically the way they will sue people who have seeds simply blow onto their property from the neighboring GMO farm.

>>32473207
Any country that farms animals on an 'industrial' scale (ie: us too) has to concern itself with animal related diseases. And it's why they tend to pump animals full of antibiotics.

>>32473212
Honestly it will be interesting to see if the harsher punishments they levy against this sort of behavior, than what we do in the US (cause c'mon, a lot of people should have gotten punished for 2008, not necessarily a bullet mind you, but still...), will be an effective long-term strategy against that sort of behavior.

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>>32473318
No, but these people would have died anyway, even without GLF.

Not due to starvation, but due to sickness and diseases because no commie-built roads leading to their villages that would enable medical supplies to arrive.
And then, they would remain in poverty forever, since no commie-built roads exist to enable the peasant to leave his farm to go into the city as labourer.

>>32473329

Corruption exists everywhere where growth is. But at least we have those roads and railways because of communism and you do not.

>>32473342
>But at least we have those roads and railways because of communism and you do not.

>shows a pics of a similar road infrastructure, yet more efficient.

>>32473206
>>32473326

Many people think China pulls the strings on NK but nothing could be further from the truth. While NK spends a lot of time and energy worrying about SK and the US the truth is when they are finally toppled the invasion will come from China and it will be over in no time at all.

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>>32473319
>thousands dead to build roads
Again, only in backward ass commie shithole
>>32473326
With so much disinformation and secrecy, we may never truly know
But I'll give it a read,never hurts

>>32473342
Not like the government gives a flying fuck about "the people"
That's why the modern chink lives in super compact cities that look like volcanic fog

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>>32473354
And before China was communist, it was capitalist. Noone built roads (even the Japs complained about that, since it slowed down their invasion) and people still died every day.

Communism is a pretty cool thing, because it turns death into things of national value, while capitalism creates nothing but for its own profit (and since capitalists are globalists, they will never give back anything to the nation that they exploited).

>>32473358
>14 fighters
>"full deck"

kek

>>32473342
>US is a near perfect grid of interstates
>china is a complete clusterfuck

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>>32473375
Full, as in planes can still land and take off.

Pic related is America boasting a full deck, but blocking any simultanious takeoff and landing.

>>32473358
why is the water brown and opaque

>>32473373
>Communism is a pretty cool thing

edgy

>>32473310
>When will Russia finally learn to use their PLANES for anti shipping, and not the Carrier itself?

Submarines are superior for anti-shipping. Aircraft are for striking ground targets tho they make passable missile trucks. That's why the Soviet Navy was heavy on submarines (to sink the sea bridge to NATO) and light on targets like carriers which require a carrier battle group for protection.

Most of any surface ship fleet is dedicated to self-defense, not offense.

>>32473386
>but blocking any simultanious takeoff and landing.

Being as how that is logistically easy mode, why bother?

Spoilers: you dont need to simultaneously land and take off. To make that deck work however, you need god tier deck organization.

>>32473391
yellow sea

>>32473310
>When will Russia finally learn to use their PLANES for anti shipping, and not the Carrier itself?
That carrier was build in USSR. Russia uses it because there nothing else to use. It is very possible that due modernization they will cut off that missiles and make same thing as Chinese.

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>>32473398
A modernized Oscar-class is fucking great. I agree.

This is also why China is churning out SSGNs recently. No matter how noisy, when they are protected by a carrier group, they are basically just anti-ship launchers that cant be targeted by anything but an enemy submarine - that still needs to get within the carrier group's ASW screen.

>>32473391
Indian ocean

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>>32473373
>Muh capitalism
>communism is pretty cool
>giving the state full power/management of all resources
>pretty cool
Yeah you have never lived under commie rule
That's painfully evident

>>32473442
Like you did. BTW, how big is your student loan?

>>32473450
>dude loans lol

t. Commie

>>32473450
None,I payed that small loan long ago (no I'm not a American)

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>>32473310
>Which Su-33 can carry anti-ship missiles?
all of them
and also the Mig-29K and Ka-52K

>>32473442
>giving the state full power/management of all resources
>implying there is anthing wrong.

People of third world character have no feeling of responsibility. Especially not capitalists who still think themselves more as feudal lords than entrepeneurs. Having a mass-party organization take away their means of production to serve the overall interests of the people is the only right thing to do if you want to have a rapid and successful modernization from zero.

Of course, after the high growth period, quality instead of quantity will be more important, so this rigid structure has to be done away with and more free entrepeneurship allowed. But back during Mao's time, China needed the basic things, roads, bridges, railways, factories and not Google, Apple and Goldman Sachs.

This is the very reason why India is still such a shithole despite british influence and having a better starting condition than China. India has an IT industry before they have toilets. And this bites them in the ass.

Communism would have solved that, but they had their chance.

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>>32473442
>He thinks the soviet union was Communist

MY GOTT!

>>32473421
>No matter how noisy, when they are protected by a carrier group, they are basically just anti-ship launchers that cant be targeted by anything but an enemy submarine - that still needs to get within the carrier group's ASW screen.
Is it time to create cruise missile-deployed ASW? Imagine putting a sonobuoy payload on a tomahawk, followed by light ASW torpedoes also carried by missile.

>>32473499
See ASROC, SUBROC and SEA LANCE.

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>>32473499
Yeah, something like that...

sea-skimming long range cruise missiles carrying a torpedo payload

>>32473504
ASROC et all have only a range of 30km max. And they fly a high parabolic trajectory that makes shooting them down very easy.

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>>32473511
CY-X torpedo cruise missile related.

>>32473504
Yeah, but I'm talking a much greater range. ASROC goes about as far as guns do. And the conventionally-armed Sea Lance variant only doubled that range. 2x shit = shit. Those kind of distances are not real standoff range anymore.

>>32473477
I am implying There is something wrong you imbecile
>what is tyranny
>what is starvation
>what is Gulag

Communism can't solve shit,it can't even be successfully implemented anywhere without failing over,and over,and over,and over,etc

Stop being a commie and get a job

>>32473478
>the urss isn't communist
Then what was it? Rainbowland?
>when it fails then its not real Communism
Wew lad

>>32473020
1. Per capita please
2. Import-export please
3. Environment a la all kinds of output figures please please

>>32473107
Instant fucked.

>>32473646
And still, the agrarian and backwards Russia of the Czars was able to climb up to become a peer competitor of the US and nuclear superpower during the entire cold war - and even now, Russia still maintains their standing despite shit economy because they enjoy the achievements of Comrade Gulag, Comrade Starvation and Comrade Tyranny.

You have never lived in a backwards anarchic third world shithole and experienced the crushing hopelessness of remaining poor and weak.
You wouldnt understand the desire of the people to modernize and become a strong power to not get bullied by wealthy westeners with their gunboats.
You wouldnt realize that the people of turd-world nations are more willing to sacrifice millions of their own to build their own nuclear weapons, their own aerospace industry, their own high-speed railways and their own superpower.

You, as some butthurt belt vagrant who is enjoying america's cock too much and deserve no respect. You are too cowardly to sacrifice your people for the sake of your own country, but are willing to sacrifice them for the sake of becoming little vassals of the US and follow them into wars of aggression in some middle eastern country.

>>32473695
this
China may produce more total grain, but the US still has better food security and nutrition

>>32473294
>>32473319
>>32473342
/thread
Such limited quality gtfo.

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>>32473713
You are a commie dog
Reds deserve nothing more then death

I don't like American, but its better than being a red drone

>no Rights to bear arms under commie rule
Sounds absolutely fun

Name 1 (one) successful commie country

>>32472031
The super frelon is a licensed copy.

>>32473807
China and Russia are both successful in modernizing their countries from an absolutely pauperized backwards feudal shithole.

They modernized so much, that you have to deal with their posters right here in this thread.

Or did you ever shitposted against a libertarian Somalian on 4chan?

>>32473816
Russia isn't communist anymore dipshit
China cheats by abandoning the planed market for CAPITALISM
Stating to make sense?

Now go suck off all those tinpot red dictators

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>>32468204
/leftypol/ is here to explain that the USSR failed because it was too good.

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>>32468204
Unlike Russia the Chinese dont plan to settle for >Muh ramp for 50 years.

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>>32473842
Russia under communism was far more successful than nowaday's Russia under crony capitalism.
This is a fact.

And China is a communist country that has largely abandoned the communist economic principles on the microeconomical scale to raise efficiency and profit, but still maintains harsh control over strategic industries and industrial policy to pursue national projects of strategic scale and ambitions.
Projects that would have never been greenlighted in a capitalistic system, since they do not generate any profits. Like pic related.

This is the very idea of Communist Technocracy, and basically what Marx always wanted as the last stage of socialism.

>>32473914
>but still maintains harsh control over strategic industries and industrial policy to pursue national projects of strategic scale and ambitions.

So does the USA. Lockheed Martin, NASA, the carrier builders and Raytheon are not free to trade with whoever they want to like random companies.

>>32473868
>implying anyone is interested in ur shittear info.img
Then, explainorz away. Fegg

>>32473941
Hence, the US isnt completely libertarian free market either.

They have to use "communist measures" to stay relevant. Or to build roads.

>>32473959
Mixed economy.

It's mostly free but the government reserves itself the right to intervene when it wants to.

Like building roads, or telling nuclear bomb builders that they cant sell their products to Islamic State terrorists.

Being an AnCap is a mental illness.

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>>32473914
>Communist Russia
>successful
Oh, is that why it doesn't exist anymore?
Kid,the soviets where so hated in Russia/eastern Europe that Gorbachev had to pull the plug on it


You can have a few socialist ideas/policies
That's fine
But full out Communism is just asking to fail,be it intended or not


Would you rather have security or freedom?

>>32473275
>How well do those shitty chinese knock off products people buy usually work?

How many jets has China crashed into the ocean while attempting to use their carrier?

>>32473438
Do ho ho.

>>32474003
>Would you rather have security or freedom?

In a third world country that is being beset by warlordism, feudal oppression, foreign intervention, gunboat politics and predatory exploitation, you have neither.

But with a communist revolution sweeping away the old system and its vested interest, restoring the sovereignity and embarking on a giant industrial and military transformation, you will at least have the basic foundation of development. And only through such development, you will have the luxury one day to aski yourself the question whether you would rather have security or freedom.

A Somalian does not enjoy the luxury of ask himselves this question.
Neither did a Russian peasant during Czarist time or a Chinese rice-farmer during the 1920s.

But nowadays they do. The Somalian still cant.

See the difference?

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>>32474302
I gave you a simple question

You replied with borderline propaganda

>a Somali
Well shit poor nigger
He is a nigger in a nigger continent

Last question and I'll leave you with this

>would you rather live in:
>capitalist country
Or
>communist country

>>32474355
In a third world country, I'd rather live in a communist third world country with free healthcare and actual sovereignity than in a capitalist banana-state that is ruled by a junta of CIA-stooges only serving the interests of Monsanto and United Fruit.

Because history shows that more communist third world countries manage to climb up tha ladder than capitalist banana states can, since former have full control over their own country, while latter are merely vassals.

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>>32473842
Don't fail for communist bait about modernization and don't take their fake facts unquestioned. They didn't do anything special that was not done by capitalism before. Even more communists enjoyed fruits of capitalism that invented modern industry. Pretty much all of soviet and Chinese industry foundation was build by USA... But american industry was build by Americans themselves feat that communists would never be able to repeat.

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>>32474378
Holy shit are you taking the piss?
Yes
>Vietnam
>North Korea
>Most ex-soveit countries
>Cuba
All these countries are doing worse then the average third world
(Besides Cuba, now that the red dog is finally burning in hell,Cuba can open up to 2017)

The only thing worse than a commie run shithole is a African nigger country
Nothing to be proud of.

Name me one second world nation that actually succeeded in any of the communist ideals
Name me one.

>capitalist banana state
Name me one,and it will still be better than >muh "classless society"

Look at Argentina, you can argue its a us/banker cash cow
But its still better than any commie trash shithole
Tl:dr
Freedom > equality

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>>32473310
>Cat officer for a ramp

>>32474454
Vietnam's economy is also booming. Same strategy like China, have foreign companies open shop in their country to exploit cheap labour - but enjoying the roads that were built by Uncle Ho to get their wares to the harbours.

North Korea's problem is their isolation, which crashed their economy in the 90s. During the 60s, North Korea actualy grew faster and had higher living standards than the South.

Cuba is still pretty ok-ish. Certainly not worse than other south american ex-spanish colonies.

Ex-Soviet countries are all pretty ok. Noone's there being worse off than certain middle eastern countries that the US has created in the last couple of years. I dont see your point.

The only one is North Korea. But yet again, they are being sanctioned to death by literally everyone, including China nowadays.

>Name me one second world nation that actually succeeded in any of the communist ideals

China has pretty much achieved what it always wanted. Wealth and Power, and resistance against foreign invaders. There is not a single US based in China, and Hongkong belongs to China once again, with the British imperialists sitting on their shitty island with no ability to steal it back again.


>Freedom > equality

Your opinion as a 1st worlder.

A third worlder thinks differently.

>>32474393
>Even more communists enjoyed fruits of capitalism that invented modern industry

Of course, since communism was suppossed to come after socialism, which comes after the end-stage of capitalist development.

Communism is the natural end-stage of the highest forms of capitalism.

You will still see this yourself, when automatization and intelligent algorithms makes you unemployable, forcing you, as well, to fight on the barricades for the enactment of a robot-tax to finance your food-stamps in the brave new world.

Because capitalists WILL move to automatization, regarding little whether you lose your job or not.

>>32473646
>Communism can't solve shit,it can't even be successfully implemented anywhere without failing over,and over,and over,and over,etc

is this what the US public education system teaches you these days? People like you tend to call everyone who don't share your political views "indoctrinated", which is ironic, because you fucks are the dumbest, most indoctrinated pieces of shit to walk in the US. Like seriously, if you can't look at things objectively, just fucking kill yourself. No need for more retards in my country.

>>32473842
>China cheats by abandoning the planed market for CAPITALISM

not quite. I recommend you study the roles of the SOEs. And don't read the Economist.

>>32474634
>and don't read the Economist
Because it would be bad to learn the truth.

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>>32474513
First off
>Vietnam
>China
>good economy
Yeah,getting paid a few dollars for slave work inside massive factories is great

That's really helps the economy

Its funny how commies talk about >muh greedy evil capitalist pigs
When over in China its the same thing,a few souls control and profit from the many,many chink slave workers

I heard that if you are Christian, budist,or any other religion, you get shot
Sound great, where can I get a ticket?

>be born poor in China
>die poor at 57 thanks to cancer from all the pollution

At least the Chinese elites could for their scientist into making a fairly good f22 ripoff looking plane.
One of the few communist "achievements"

>>32474617
>dumb American education
Sorry shitface,that meme argument doesn't work since I ain't American

Go occupy wall street and show the world how idiotic you are

>>32474656
>When over in China its the same thing,a few souls control and profit from the many,many chink slave workers

China reinvested that blood money into building the world's longest high-speed railway network, the world's largest renewable energy capacity, the most massive urbanization project etc. Things that the sons and daughters of the slave labourers will enjoy today.

Globalist capitalists would just take that blood money for themselves and move away to the next poor state to exploit, leaving their current country in failed state shambles. Like a swarm of locust.

This is the difference.

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>>32474705
>muh trains
>muh green energy
Do you actually believe this?
This is some north Korea false city level bullshit

Hahaha you deluded troll
Tell me,do you own any guns?
If you do,why defend the ideology that wants guns out of civilian hands?

>>32473079
>t.Mao Lin

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>>32474753
I believe, because I rode the 1900km long Beijing-Chengdu high-speed railway in under 14 hours, the 900km long Shanghai-Beijing railway in bit more than 4 hours, and the recent 2250km long Yunnan Shanghai line in 10 hours. Then, I shower in my bath with water that was heated and kept warm via solar panels on my apartment's roof, as standard equipment for all Chinese cities.

Then, after a year, the already large city became a megacity that swallows more and more formerly poor villages, and turned them into commercial hubs and downtown areas.

>>32474558
Funny thing that communists don't understand that their own ideology means that even more. They naively think they will enslave robots and leisure when robotic proletariat produces added value. What did Marx say about parasites? That right, baby, revolution and extermination When capitalism is ok with non labor sources of income....

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>>32474847
Oh so that's Communisms goal
Hi-tech trains in shit

Meanwhile the average Joe in chyna is poor as fuck

Truly a ideal society

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>>32474908
Marx saw the awesome might and efficiency of the steam machines and immediately came to the conclusion that these machines will one day be the capitalism's own downfall, because they replace so much labour and create so much unemployment, that the capitalist wont be able to sell his goods to anyone one day, if the system itself doesnt change.

Capitalism will literally kill itself through automatization. The capitalist is like an insect, brainless and without any eyes to see further than what lies beneath him. He will replace his labourers with machines for the sake of profit and cheap production, until one day he finds out that unemployed and breadless people cant buy his stuff.

And then either he will starve to death himselves as his company is bankrupt, or the unemployed raise up to rebellion to overthrow that system, seize the means of production that are the robots and make them work for the whole society for free, since the whole issue could be reduced to nothing but money. With a moneyless society, the overflowing abundance of goods, cheaply and freely produced by automatization, will belong to everyone in the society, the former capitalist and the former worker and noone has to artificially starve anymore, since the rules of the capitalist economic system told him that he cant just eat from the mountain of robot-produced bread without paying for it.

Marx literally deduced this futuristic, but inevitable outcome by simply watching how many labourers a single steam engine can replace.

He is a genius.

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>>32473020
>highest agricultural output
>most internet users
>largest army
>most people
well no shit

>>32474990
The flaw simply is that in reality capitalism is actually the one who is drives automation forward contradicting communism.

>>32474656
>Yeah,getting paid a few dollars for slave work inside massive factories is great
>That's really helps the economy
you're so fucking dumb.

So dumb.

>>32473197
You know a couple of these are proven bullshit right? Especially the egg one.

>>32475077
How is automatization contradicting the moneyless society of communism?

Communism is not the counterpart of capitalism, but rather its final evolution after automatization has killed the old system.

Of course, another outcome would be that the capitalists try to maintain their system while still rely on automatization. But then, it will become a feudalist society, where a few capitalists with their robot armies and a few IT guys responsible for maintenance living in their protected compounds stand against the penniless and breadless unemployed masses living in the filth, reverting to subsistence farming on barren polluted lands that even the capitalists dont want anymore.

>>32474656
>Sorry shitface,that meme argument doesn't work since I ain't American
but you're still DUMB AS FUCK.

Seriously, go read a fucking book, you dumb shit.

And tell me which shithole you crawled out of your whore of a mother's vagina in, so I can setup a few fucking battery factories there. Clearly, labor must be cheap, because you're dumb as FUCK.

>>32474974
>chyna
is this a kongner?

fuck, no wonder you're pissed as fuck. Glorious people's republic made you realize how little you mattered.

Lol stay mad, fag.

>>32472031
They licensed at least the heli

>>32475077
are you illiterate?

>>32475115
>>32474990
>words
>words
>words
So much text, so little to say. You just know it is another idiot, who cant stop typing about his personal discussion comfy zone. Useless.

>>32473144
>hurdur you can't import the items you don't have a comparative advantage in

>>32475142
don't bother telling that to the retard. He's so mired in his own bullshit that he can't tell his asshole from his mouth.

The only thing people like that understand is a fucking .45 in the brainpan, and I hope that someone make him "understand" soon. No room for retards in this country.

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>>32475100
No
it's not
All that shit you decorate your house with is probably made by soon poor gook in a sweatshop

>>32475123
What I am saying is that communism is a failure
This is a fact,
Go read some books about it
There's plenty to read from

You have not presented a single argument against my case,only insults

>>32475158
it's called reading for normal people.

Clearly you're too stupid to read. I recommend that you go fucking kill yourself now.

>>32474990
>Capitalism will literally kill itself through automatization.
Capitalism will literally kill PROLETARIAT through automatization. Capitalism itself is fine.

>With a moneyless society, the overflowing abundance of goods, cheaply and freely produced by automatization, will belong to everyone in the society, the former capitalist and the former worke
Nope. Added value belongs to who produces it. Unemployed proletariat has no rights at it all. Well it is not even proletariat anymore. Just class of beggars destined to be exterminated. Why feed feudal or capitalist that according to communism produce nothing? Same logic applies to beggar-declassed-proletariat. This is historic inevitably according to Marx. Even if laws say otherwise they eventuality fall under objective laws of historic development. As robots produce value they ultimately hold power over everything and they could be denied this power only by suppression system of state and only temporally, superstructure will change to reflect change of base (humans don't work anymore and are not needed).

Genius of communism entrapped itself into eternal slavery.

>>32475177
Its is called ignoring uttery garbage, comes with knowledge. Nothing you would know anything of.

>>32475168
truthfully, the only things you deserve are insults, because you're THAT FUCKING STUPID. Why waste time teaching you the basics of macro econ when you drew such an absurdly stupid conclusion?

There are a couple explanations:
1) You're fucking stupid
2) You derived this from all the shit retarded 4channers wrote, which means you do not have an academic interest in this, and that you're stupid
3) you're trolling

Since the choices are not mutually exclusive, I think it's all 3.

So I'm not going to waste my time throwing fucking textbooks and stats at you. I'll just tell you you're a fucking retard, which is an undeniable truth.

-t Private wealth IBanker in HK with 7 years behind him.

>>32475177
>shitty propaganda that makes no point nor sence & doesn't address any solutions
Sorry kid,the world doesn't work like that

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>>32475226
Not a single argument

>>32475226
>-t Private wealth IBanker in HK with 7 years behind him.


CHINESE PIG-DOG DETECTED

Wipe out all 1.2 billion of the red communists!

>>32475194
Capitalism without any chance to gain profits is stil capitalism now? Really..

Sure, you say humans dont work anymore and arent needed. But capitalism needs humans, if not for workers, then at least to be the consumers. And without consumers, capitalism wont work and the system will crash and burn.

To whom will the capitalist sell his robot produced good, if not to the masses? Do they form some sort of dumb "closed loop" where the capitalists with their robot factories sell only to each other for fun?

Capitalism isnt capitalism anymore, if you cant gain profits. And even if robots produce added value (what kind of value, actually, with noone to sell to?), they cant hold power because perfect AI will never be achieved and in the end it is the human who controls the machine.

In the end, it always means checkmate capitalist. Either it will usher in a commie utopia, or everyone dies, including the capitalist since he has no money anymore to buy the same bread that his robots are making every day after he has fired his last human baker.

>>32475226
Tell me genius
How is communism (the ideology that failed every time it was tried and left millions dead) the best thing to ever happen

Enlighten me with your best reply

>>32475226
肏你妈

https://youtu.be/wKx1aenJK08

CHINA FEICHANG HAO
USA BU HAO
ZAIJIAN

>>32475259
The solution is simple
When the bots break down/need maintainers to fix it,that's where the proletarian comes in
Right?

>>32473339
> And it's why they tend to pump animals full of antibiotics.

and then the bacteria evolve naturally to resist those antibiotics and then you are going to make new anti biotics but the bacteria will evolve naturally to resist those antibiotics and then you are going to make new anti biotics but the bacteria will evolve naturally to resist those antibiotics and then you are going to make new anti biotics but the bacteria will evolve naturally to resist those antibiotics and then you are going to make new anti biotics but the bacteria will evolve naturally to resist those antibiotics .......

do you see where this is going ?

>>32475267
I don't know. Why don't you go read Das Kapital? I never said communism is the best thing ever. I only post ad hominem in this thread because you fucks only deserve ad hominem.

However, I will address this:
>the ideology that failed every time it was tried and left millions dead
Did it fail? It transformed the USSR from a backward third rate power into a behemoth that was feared. To talk about its legacy in China is a much nuanced discussion, however, since Deng was not a Maoist, and you can make the argument that the Soviet Thought never took root in China. Of course I don't expect you to know this, since you're, you know, stupid.

>left millions dead
EVERYTHING leaves millions dead. Let's be honest here, human progress is an unstoppable machine that is driven by scarcity and grinds people into dust. Every form of political thought, every type of society, every economic model in reality are matrices of HUMAN exploitation. To suffer, after all, is to live, and human organization is simply a pattern of its distribution.

>>32475273
Nah, your mother is cheaper. And the services more...comprehensive.

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ABC here who has been to China fairly frequently
it fucking sucks there
everyone I know who has successfully emigrated prefers the US

>>32475442
Well no shit. You know how much easier life is in the US? China is a very competitive place

>>32475491
so lets just leave it at that
China sucks

>>32475259
>But capitalism needs humans, if not for workers, then at least to be the consumers.
AHAHA. Do you understand that how you sound, measurable proletariat-parasite? You sound like Romans (those from Rome itself), "bread and circuses"! We produce nothing, we do nothing (don't even serve in army) but feed us just because !!! Nope. Die parasite scum. You are not needed. Nobody needs parasites to consume added value.

>Do they form some sort of dumb "closed loop" where the capitalists with their robot factories sell only to each other for fun?
Yep. Only not just fun but for extended reproduction the main fun of life. (of course many will no go that course but such systems would wiped out by natural selection exactly like happens with life forms)

>perfect AI
>you need perfect AI to be proletariat
Isn't Marx especially pointed brainless nature of industrialist proletariat job? How demeaning and nonhuman it is?

>human who controls
Capitalist. Or slaver.

In the end if we stand on Communists point of view if you don't labor you are not needed. Simple ideology of slaves. The core of ideology is to remove "parasites" so dream of slave paradise self-defeats itself. Slaves destined to work forever and if they stop they essentially become slavers themselves. So no communist paradise for you when you leisure and robots do labor for you.

Capitalism from its point of view is fine with not doing labor.

>>32475499
every place is nice if you have money. Even HK.
Just because you can't survive in the Glorious People's Republic doesn't mean the place sucks. It just means you're too soft.

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>>32475384
>>>32475267 (You)
>I don't know.
No surprise here
>Why don't you go read Das Kapital?
I have,and also Lenin's "state & revolution"
Its all good on paper,doesn't work on a grand scale

>I only post ad hominem in this thread because you fucks only deserve ad hominem.
Oh so you are just trolling, go figure

>Did it fail?
Yes
>it transformed the USSR from a backward third rate power into a behemoth that was feared.

Yes,it was feared because nobody wants communism spreading,like the toxic cancer it is with nukes

>EVERYTHING leaves dead. Let's be honest here, human progress is an unstoppable machine that is driven by scarcity and grinds people into dust. Every form of political thought, every type of society, every economic model in reality are matrices of HUMAN exploitation. To suffer, after all, is to live, and human organization is simply a pattern of its distribution.

This is true
But here is the catch
Communism in its short lifespan killed more than both fascist and capitalist combined

>>32473987
Ironically, China is moreancap than we are.

>>32475340
>China
>making new anything

>>32475603
>Yes,it was feared because nobody wants communism spreading,like the toxic cancer it is with nukes

Not the way the soviets saw it

>Communism in its short lifespan killed more than both fascist and capitalist combined

really? where did you get that? The black book of communism? Why don't you tell me how many it has lifted out of poverty?

See, you deserve nothing but insults, because you're not just stupid, you don't even realize it.

My suggestion: either take a few classes in analytical numerics or fucking kill yourself. Preferably the latter.

>>32474505
You need someone to control the launch.

>>32474513
>There is not a single US based in China
Try that again but in English this time.

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>>32475671


>Not the way the soviets saw it
No shit,really?

>really? where did you get that?

This is basic knowledge and everyone Worth their soul knows this

>Why don't you tell me how many it has lifted out of poverty?

>wait in line for a piece of bread
Yeah top notch there ivan
The soviet Union was such a disaster that when it fell,it brought down the entire Eastern block
Leaving millions in the dust

Great success there,maybe we should do the same?

>See, you deserve nothing but insults, because you're not just stupid, you don't even realize it.
Shitpost harder nigger kike

>My suggestion: either take a few classes in analytical numerics
No thanks

>or fucking kill yourself. Preferably the latter.
After you commie

>>32475772
lol you're so dumb it's almost entertaining.

Tell me, how do you manage to breathe?

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>>32475788
Your lack of arguments
That's how I breathe,dumbass

>>32475811
I told you, you only deserve insults. Because you're dumb as FUCK.

Is this clear enough, or do I have to hammer it into your thick skull with an actual hammer? I'll bring a hammer, but you have to pay for the air ticket. I only fly British Airways first class. I'll settle for business if you're poor, which you likely are.

>>32468204
You won't be able to tell them apart when they're at the bottom of the ocean.

>>32475513
>Yep. Only not just fun but for extended reproduction the main fun of life. (of course many will no go that course but such systems would wiped out by natural selection exactly like happens with life forms)

So, Capitalist A sells bread produced by his robots to Capitalist B. Capitalist B asks why the fuck should he ever buy A's bread since his own robot produces it just as well. Result: System itself crashes since there is no exchange in any value added products anymore. Capitalism is dead, a system where self-contained fiefdoms powered by all-producing replicators is born. Noone ever talks or trades with each other anymore, since noone has anything he cant produce himself.

Thanks for proving my point. Capitalists are dumb as shit.

>>32475840
I only know three types of people who like communism
>niggers
>women
>sjw
Which one is it

>>32475840
>Ure Dumb as fuck
>I fly british airways first class
>British Airways
I haven't read any of this thread, but I already decided you are retarded.

>>32475870
I never said I liked communism. I simply take a more nuance approach in viewing it.

Of course you're too stupid and indoctrinated to see it.

It's ok though, there is a place in this world even for retards. Although I hope your assigned place is a particularly shallow grave.

Ciao, time for my massage session.

>>32475882
I bet you think you're hot shit flying Delta One, heh?

Go be poor elsewhere.

>>32475906
>defends communism
>I don't like it
Your are a special type of stupid
Nobody will miss you when you die faggot

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>>32474003
>soviets where so hated in Russia/eastern Europe that Gorbachev had to pull the plug on it
Nope.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_Union_referendum,_1991

>>32475568
I can survive just fine faggot
for thanks for confirming that China blows

>>32473809
>>32475142
A licenced copy they began to design as the Z8 in 1976, before the first Super frelon were even delivered in 1977 ?
The licence was given by France in 1981.
They still had many problems to precisely define what they wanted, and the final production design was approved in 1994.

Can't you see what happened ?
It's called a copy with a licence to do so, not a licenced copy. It's always like this with China, in every sector.

The same almost happened with the J-15, except meanwhile the chinese learned to copy the SU27/30.

>>32475166
Sure thing buddy, and I guess you can fit many many rounds of .45 up your ass. From there, I'd say at least enough to fill up a dozen of 1911 magazines.
That's an impressive asshole, I'll give you that.

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>>32474003
yea the western puppet named gorbatchov ''SAVED'' russia

>>32477113
>Gorbatchov did the wrong thing meme
Not even once.

>>32477113
Probably,
Western>anything else

>>32474847
Maybe people would believe you better if they could see the trains through all of the smog from your coal-powered power plants.

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>>32478060
set to change as well, with all the nuke plants and gas plants under construction.

Our nuke plants will all be the new pebble-bed reactors, even.

https://www.technologyreview.com/s/600757/china-could-have-a-meltdown-proof-nuclear-reactor-next-year/

Technology will solve every problem. And only Chinese communism has the required strength, ambition and political flexibility to allow technology to flourish.

Quantum satellite this year, pebble-bed reactors next year, and EM-Drive powered space-ships to Mars by 2020!

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>>32478105
>quantum satellite
Until an outside source repeats the quantum satellite experiment, I'm going to remain skeptical.

>pebble-bed reactors
Pebble bed are low-tech when it comes to reactors. The only lower-tech that I can think of is a salt-water reactor.

>mEMeDrive
mfw

>>32478319
QUESS was done with European (Austrian) cooperation. If you want to be sceptical, you are sceptical against the White Christian Aryian Man who is also supporting China's efforts. And you wouldnt want that, right?

Pebblebed reactors might be low-tech, but that's the best, since they are very secure.

EMD might sound like a meme, but both China and NASA test them, as well as a number of other countries.

China's ahead, though. EMD is already being tested onboard TG-2 space-station.

>>32475852
>So, Capitalist A sells steel produced by his robots to Capitalist B.
>So, Capitalist B sells microchips produced by his robots to Capitalist A.

>Capitalist B asks why the fuck should he ever buy A's bread since his own robot produces it just as well.
>Why baker doesn't makes his own boots since he can produce it just as well.. oh wait
Economy of communism. MAKE YOUR OWN BOOTS AND BREAD, TOVARISH. Also every peasant should fulfill plans of steel production! This is how we defeat capitalism!

>>32478646
Automatization will result in Capitalist A and B both having the ability to satisfy all their needs.

A cant sell bread to B, because B cant see the point in paying money for something his robots can do as well.

B cant sell chips to A, because A cant see the point in paying money for something his robots can do as well.

automatization is the end of division of labour and the distinction between trades and specializations. All workers will be rendered obsolete and all trade and economic exchange will stop, because scarcity of resources and means of production will cease to exist.

You have to be aware that the current economic system is based on scarcity.

Scarcity in resources with one having more and the other having less (which is why the one having less trades printed paper for the one who has more iron ore), scarcity in manpower (which is why capitalists trade printed paper for labour-force to work in his factory), scarcity in means of production (which is why we rely on capitalists so much who possess those means that in turn produce all necessities that those need who dont own any means to produce it themselves).

If scarcity is over, because automatization provides everything, everyone is a "parasite" and the system crumbles as exchanges are rendered obsolete.

>>32476037
And then several month after these people voted of independence of their republics. Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania announced independence before this referendum.

>>32473386
you know aircraft are stored below deck, right? that's just them showing their dick by putting a couple above deck.

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>>32478716
>Automatization ends specialization

>If scarcity is over
>scarcity can be over in the finite universe
Post-scarcity could be only in communism definition aka you "don't have such need tovarish this is bourgeois superfluity" you only have need for borscht and bank in the barracks.

>>32478858
scarcity as in capitalists having to resort to trade between each other and with their former labourers will end.

and such the entire system.

>>32478938
There is no premise of specialization ending during automation. Do you see Apple baking bread? Nope. But why not? Why don't bake bread and pay employees with bread instead of money? Image all profits! Why let this profits slip to bakeries? If you can answer this question you will find answer why specialization will stay in automated economy.

Apple has the majority of its robots produce phones for as long as there are still consumers around that can afford it, and has maybe a dozen self-baking machines that produces bread, made of flour that was also made by machines out of wheat that was farmed by farming machines - all belonging to Apple or to one of its subcontractors.

Not unheard of, actually. Samsung, for once, started off with selling fish and they are still a Chaebol (Korean State Owned Enterprise) that can be best described as a Poly-industrial Syndicate. If anything, Samsung could pull off above mentioned vision with ease, thereby killing his entire country and people in the process by denying them any place in the society other than beggars or "parasites". And since Samsung is such a monstrous industrial syndicate who can produce everything they need themselves like a self-contained factory, they have no need to trade with anyone anymore, let alone to buy the bread baked by Apple's automated bread-bakeries.

This is the end of capitalism and the ushering in a new form of feudalism.

>>32478716
>trade and specialization don't exist when technology levels are equal

Wew

>>32473254
A-A-A-ANYONE WITH DISSENTING OPINION ARE SHILLS

>>32474656
>That's really helps the economy
Shill detected. Learn to spell.

>>32480430
Paying workers a few cents for they're work isn't me shilling
To bad correcting my grammar is the only thing you can do

>>32468772
I feel like it's more like

>comrade, why to of wasting rubles on develop special fire system for earcraft kerryer when can just put normal fire truck on deck?

>>32473138
Mostly they don't manage either. They just cling to the 'quantity' idea like they have anything.

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WORLDS HIGHEST BRIDGE IN CHINA

comes after the world's second highest bridge, also in China.

http://edition.cnn.com/videos/world/2016/12/29/china-worlds-highest-bridge-beipanjiang-sfc-orig.cnn

COMMUNISM STRONG

TECHNOCRACY STRONG

CHRISTFAG CAPITALIST BTFO

>>32480252
It does not.

transport fees to literally exchange redundant goods across technologically equal capitalists will prevent any exchange.

transporting goods means attrition of transports and expension of fuel.

in a economy based on scarcity and unequal technology/means of production, it still made sense.

but not in a post-scarcity economy, where every capitalist can produce the same goods in house.

>>32480875
Did u finally get your GED?

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The latest on our boring, un-creative, high school brainwashed communist drone-students...

https://www.studyinternational.com/news/chinese-high-schoolers-out-code-university-students-in-worldwide-coding-competition/

CHINESE MIDDLE SCHOOLER BTFO UNIVERSITY STUDENTS IN CODING

>>32473020
>not with the highest agricultural output of all humanity.
Pity they can't eat any of that food because it's all contaminated with radioactive industrial explosive moldy sludge.

>>32473079
>China's a high-tech communist technocracy


mhm sure

>>32473310

Even the ocean around China is low quality

>>32473391

Its fake

>>32483033
post-scarcity is a meme

>>32483196
Really? Seems like the 1.3+ billion do just fine

>>32483182
>Indian/Chinese academic institutions

There is a reason nobody takes either seriously, anon.

>>32483577
They really, really don't. Industrial pollution of agricultural land in China is a huge problem.

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>>32478105
>gas-cooled
>Not glorious Liquid metal cooled reactor
plebs.

>>32483674
>Reminder that commies deserve death
And how this different from
>Reminder that infidels deserve death
You're fucking Taliban-tier, bro.

>>32483740
Communists arent human and neither are muslims

>>32483740
Chinks are commies
Talibans are Muslim
Both are equally evil and worthless

Hey fellow /ktards, what happened with the katana guy thread? With guy wreking old ww2 katana, i was 6 in the morning and i had to go to sleep so i missed the ending. Does anyone have screencap or link to archive?

>>32483757
>Communists arent human
When mad-ass Towelhead begin to shoot people in you neighbourhood, go and hug him, cause you're two alike.

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>>32474003
>Oh, is that why it doesn't exist anymore?
>Kid,the soviets where so hated in Russia/eastern Europe that Gorbachev had to pull the plug on it
American "education". Go google how Belavezha Accords were signed, what was the Union of Sovereign States supposed to be, as opposed to the Commonwealth of Independent States and what were the results of the referendum on the future of the Soviet Union. Fucking ignorant amerishit scum, Jesus Christ.

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>>32473880
Gook shill, please. You aren't impressing anyone with your shitty Yak-44 copycat.

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>>32483877
>American education
>american meme
Not only are you absolutely wrong, you are also a absolute moron
Capitalism for life bitch

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>>32483947
>Ignorant dumb amerishit faggot can't even google, thinks someone attacks capitalism
Lol, dumb fat trailer dweller.

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>>32483963
Stay mad commie
We all know who is #1

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>>32484062
#1 in being an ineducable fat ignorant faggot banned in google.

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>>32483877
>russians are still buttmad that no one wants to be under their rule anymore

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>>32484104
Where are you from?
Europe hahahah
Stay mad knowing that whatever shithole you inhabit, it will never even be half as good as the USA

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J-16D Sino-Growler 2nd prototype!

Taiwanese/Japanese/USN airdefense and airborne radars BFTO.

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>>32484062

Nice sniper rifle you have here, girl... Would be bad if someone snuck behind you.

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>>32484164
3d>2d trash

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>>32484112
>>32484121
Amerishit ignorance and the lack of argumentation.

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>>32484186
Whatever commie
Stay second place

>>32484186
>Bepхoвный Coвeт Pecпyблики Кaзaхcтaн, выpaжaя вoлю нapoдa Кaзaхcтaнa, пpизнaвaя пpиopитeт пpaв и cвoбoд личнocти, зaкpeплeнных вo Bceoбщeй дeклapaции пpaв чeлoвeкa, иных oбщeпpизнaнных нopмaх мeждyнapoднoгo пpaвa, пoдтвepждaя пpaвo кaзaхcкoй нaции нa caмooпpeдeлeниe, иcхoдя из peшимocти coздaния гpaждaнcкoгo oбщecтвa и пpaвoвoгo гocyдapcтвa, ocyщecтвляя миpoлюбивyю внeшнюю пoлитикy, зaявляя o cвoeй пpивepжeннocти пpинципy нepacпpocтpaнeния ядepнoгo opyжия и пpoцeccy paзopyжeния, тopжecтвeннo пpoвoзглaшaeт гocyдapcтвeннyю нeзaвиcимocть Pecпyблики Кaзaхcтaн.
>выpaжaя вoлю нapoдa Кaзaхcтaнa
>выpaжaя вoлю нapoдa Кaзaхcтaнa
>выpaжaя вoлю нapoдa Кaзaхcтaнa
BTFO
T
F
O

>>32484186
>posting russian rape babies as an argument for muh gommunism

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America is pretty shit desu.

The fact that the US needs to resort to communist measures like heavy taxation to prevent their industry to just go to mexico or china speaks volume about the """""""""""""""efficiency""""""""""""" of capitalism.

And they are still failing at that.

Also, capitalism cant ensure quality and optimal price for even a mediocre product. Pic related.

>>32484216
>Aлмa-Aтa, 16 дeкaбpя 1991 г. № 1007-XII
>A referendum on the future of the Soviet Union was held on 17 March 1991
>95-100% Yes is Kazakhstan
Mambet, please.

>>32473294
Ya nah.

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America's """"""""""wealth""""""""" is also the result of its awesome capitalistic system.

The US is pretty much the worst """"""""""1st world""""""""" """""""""""country""""""""""" in the world.

The socialist countries of scandinavia, as well as the central european social-market-economies are much better at creating and distributing wealth for everyone to enjoy.

America is literally a paper-tiger appearing strong because they threaten everyone with war if they dont buy the greenback and their debts to finance their inane inefficient system.

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>>32484236
>Ignorant dumb amerishit faggot can't even google, thinks someone makes an argument for communism
Lol, dumb fat trailer dweller.

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China will win 2bh desu.

>>32483023
>China
>Communist

>>32478716
>Automatization is the end of division of labour and the distinction between trades and specializations.

Have you ever worked in industry? And not some gay indie pastry shop that only needs to switch on the single oven and insert dough. Try out a galvanization plant.

tl;dr What you are writing is astonishlingly stupid and instead of reading stupid revleft fanfics you should study industrial engineering and management.

You will find out why cybernetics was called a "bourgeoise science" in the USSR in the 50s and why they had to start sucking their own cocks in the end and start developing it nevertheless.

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>>32484275
American wages are stagnating for decades.

Their system is basically dead, only kept on life-support by China and others buying their debts and backing their currency.

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>>32484261
>March is after December
Why are vodka communists so dumb?

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>>32484303
I'm in the shipbuilding industry.

Here in China, we use digitally controlled contour milling machines for the screws, kinda like those in pic related.

There is very little human input aside of transporting the material and the finished products. And this will be automated as well in the future.

>Try out a galvanization plant.

Requires nothing that machines cannot do themselves, when they become mature enough. Key requirement for many industrial jobs would be a multi-purpose robot - one that isnt just made and equipped for one single step, but one that is adaptable for many applications just as a human is.

There are some prototypes undergoing testing these days (like the Baxter). When they come online, it is the death for division of labour.

>>32473373
Fuck off and die red

>>32484361
March is before December, Mambet. People said their word in March 1991. What happened in December 1991 is a direct result of Belavezha collusion and has nothing to do with the people.

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>>32484380
I believe you will die first, as you capitalists with their insect-like minds have sold us the rope to hang you with.

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>>32484414
>People said their word in March 1991.
And then they said their word again in December 1991 kicking out drank slavs.

>>32484447
Criminals said their word in December 1991 in Belavezha, not the people. People voted for the reformation and preservation of the USSR. Powermongering criminal scum colluded and disbanded it in spite of the will of the peoples. Try harder, Mambet, the Russian cuck colony.

>Galvanization plant.
>Requires nothing that machines cannot do themselves.

And a large tub of molten zinc which can only be used for one thing and if it cools down you might as well build a new plant. A very -specialized- thing which demands human -specialists- of metallurgy to operate it.

>>32484377
>automatization is the end of division of labour and the distinction between trades and specializations

No it is not.

Sure, the most basic "Insert blank, receive stamped part" workers will lose their current jobs to robots but unless a working AI is achieved (which is considered so important that it means a singularity which throws all existing theories out of the window, including gommunism) you will still have human specialists dealing with various aspects of the production cycle - design, maintetance etc.

The knowledge and skill that goes into making a milling machine like you posted is so wide that one person simply cannot grasp it in his lifetime. Same for anything else that is above making pastries. This is why teamwork ability is always stressed. "Universal people" do not exist.

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>>32484491
>Calling Supreme Soviet of Kazakhstan as criminals
Into gulag you go, enemy of the people .

>>32484558
>People shall will whatever the dictator desires
Enjoy your useless colony state. What are you even planning to do with Baikonur once the Russians leave it, Mambet? Same thing you did with Buran Shuttle?

>>32472920
>European Union as a whole to seem relevant.

Always gets me.

>>32484623
>United States as a whole to seem relevant
How much will the US sink once the Commiefornia departs?

>>32484616
>Baikonur poison station
>good for Kazakhstan
Pick one.

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>>32484688
>Being a useless colony
>Good for Kazakhstan
Pick two, your criminal dictator decided you should.

>>32474505
They've inevitably getting a third carrier with catapults, so you may as well get the doctrine drilled in sooner rather than later.

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>>32484747
>won elections with 97,7 % votes
>dictator
Why are slavs so dumb?

China isn't communist anymore. It's national socialist/fascist.

Can we please get back to talking about carriers and sexy Flankers?

>>32468204
it wasn't the economy, it was just slavs being slavs

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>>32474847

>>32468955
Not anymore, USA now owes more money to Japan than to the Chinese.

>>32468204
Russian Navy at it's best

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3IirGP6ims

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>>32485435
Smell of Progress.

If you smell shit and cow dung, you are in India, forever sentenced to live in the bronze age.

If you smell chemical compounts and breathe through your designer smog mask, you are living in China, destined to rule the Earth, the Orbit and Mars.

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>>32486242
China is IRL Cyberpunk.

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>>32486257
No religion-fags allowed.

Only sway tek-runners can survive.

>>32468204
Is that a fucking firetruck?

>>32473164
use that as an argument when its actually BUILT, America could be developing fuck-knows-what that could counter any argument in this thread but it doesn't mean shit until it's complete, I know where I study in Britain alone we're developing non-degrading computer memory technologies that are gonna turn gigabytes to terabytes, doesn't mean shit until its finished

>>32484121
I would totally live in the united states because of legal firearms but fuck being born there, as it goes I think the USA is a pretty bad place to start life because of the low quality education and lack of new opportunities and cultures

>>32485435
God I love how dystopian China looks

>>32486903
Beijing and the places surronding it, actually.

Southern and coastal China has little smog.

>>32473342

All that glorious interstate, and they can't build fucking shit between Houston and Shreveport.

>>32473342
Oh Russia...

>>32486912
Wrong. Shangha is pretty bad now too. I was just there in nov

>>32486835
Funny, I did memsistor research.

>>32474003
the amount of degeneracy in the Bernie rally is facinating. I knew they were numerous, I just didn't realize THAT numerous

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>chinks are communist

they are more capitalist than americans will ever hope to be. chinkapore, hongkong, taiwan are all chink and different political systems and by far the most prosperous asian states. when china is done modernising, they will make americans look like somalians.

>>32480737
More like

>we ran out of rubles, we must use regular one instead of something that works better

>>32484646
Oh god that would be wonderful. The entire Silicon Valley industry would pack up and probably move to Washington and Texas, without government subsidies all the farmers would leave, and you'd end up with a failed state with nothing but a tourist economy. And we'd go solid red for the next 6 election cycles.
California please leave, I beg you.

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>>32488474
>and by far the most prosperous asian states.
I'm pretty sure glorious Nippon is actually the most prosperous.

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>>32486997

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>>32486265
>>32486257
>that air quality
>that lack of visibility
I'll keep breathing my leaf air thank you very much
>nice architecture though

>>32476903
The Z-8 didn't fly until the late 80's, after they got the license. I don't get your point. The original post I responded to was wrong to call it a stolen copy. It was purchased.

>>32485517
[Citation needed]

And no, T-bonds are not the only form of US debt.

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>>32489161
As if you aren't presently being colonised by them.

>>32489635
that would be the Koreans, at least where I'm at

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>>32489105
>No cozy EMUs for American annon
Why even live?

>>32472254
China are chinks, not gooks.

>>32474753
Story behind pic?

>>32475870
Russians and Chinese are SJWs now?

>>32473713
Two of my best friends each came from poor, communist countries to the US. They hate commies more than I do, the shit they've told me they had to put up with and the near-brainwashing that went on in regards to their government is sickening.

Which country are you from?

>>32474378
>he thinks that Venezueala would be a fine country to live in.

>>32473520
How far away do you intend to be detecting, tracking, and classifying a sub?

>>32484275
"Haha, I'll show them how impoverished all of America is by showing some people keeping racing horses on the outskirts of a moderately sized American city that is known for being full of poor niggers! That ought-ta teach em!"

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>>32473151
>>32473157

China will start destroying farm land to make room for their new xoumgwong dragon spear super computer which takes up 46 football fields.