.308 vs 30-06! Which is a better round and why?

30 06 is better because its longer

308 is better because its shorter

>>32464508
Wider is better anon

.308 Wins

>>32464405
Garand spec 30-06 is funner to shoot than 308
Fite me

>>32464405
.30-06 because velocity and B.A.R

308 niggas

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>>32464508
>>32464553
We split the difference then.

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>>32464600
7mm rem?

>>32464405
.30-06 if you reload, you can take advantage of the longer case.

If you don't reload, then 7.62x51mm would be better then.

.270win
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>>32464405
Short action? Get a .308. Long action? go with 7mm rem mag

>>32464616
that nemo omen 7mm rem mag haunts my dreams...

>>32464616
This. .30-06 is shit because it's too big for short action rifles but too weak to justify a long action rifle.

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>>32464405
6.5 creedmoor

>>32464611
.308 is better
t. full length cartridge reloader

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>>32464616
>7mm rem mag
get the fuk outta here
best round has arrived

>>32464405
For hunting, I would go .30-06 (although there are better options than both)
For target shooting, I would lean .30-06 (again there are better options than both)
For price, I would go .308
For military loads, I would lean .30-06
For reloading, I would lean .308 (you tend to find discarded once fired .308 more often)
For number of choices of guns, I would go .308
For weight per round, .308 is lighter.

Truth is they both are almost identical, with factory loadings that nudge .30-06 slightly faster but not enough that most people would notice from just shooting them.

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>>32464704
In your dreams

>>32464616
That rifle is ugly is sin

>>32464806
>Not 26 Nosler

>>32464764
Then what would you recommend for hunting, for mule deer and elk in particular?

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>>32464806
nothing personal kid

>>32464916
I live a couple minutes from Nosler and I refuse to user their products or do any business with them. They are assholes who treat their employees like pieces of shit

>>32464600
You cant thread your own post

>>32464984
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>>32464405
7.5 swiss

>>32464936
If you don't have a hunting rifle yet, I would look at whatever is used (and good condition) at any local gun store. Find one that feels right for you and buy it. That will tell you what is the best. There is no use putting a crap ton of money into something you just may not enjoy (I know I didn't enjoy hunting).

Any full sized rifle cartridge (or larger), with proper hunting loads, should be enough to kill any game in North America should the hunter do his part.

>>32464936
a tikka t3 in .300 win mag will easily take elk..
there are people that use .308 and 7mm-08 as well, its all about shot placement and what distance you're going to be shooting at
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cfd3XkHDaDA

>>32464984
>>32464994
>almost exactly 1 minute apart
I see what you did there, pal.

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>>32465001
This

>>32465115
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>>32464936

.30-06 will make all of those dead as fuck.

Price to performance- .308
Overall performance- .30-06

.30-06 does edge out .308, but not by much.... and the price makes up for it.

>>32464593
>Not the flatter shooting 7x57

>>32465001
Fun fact. .30-06 M1 Ball bullets are a direct copy of GP11 bullets.

>>32465156
We ain't killing elephants here, Hemingway.

30'06 can push a heavier bullet. Otherwise there's not a whole lot of difference.

>>32465123
that pic is true till ya joined the eu

>>32466104
wow

>>32464616
Holy shit I've never seen an uglier gun than that failed abortion.

I know, I know, form>function but Jesus H.

>>32464593
8mm is fun a fuck to shoot

>>32464593
>American-loaded 8mm
Basically 30-30 desu

>>32466104
>Suissi
>EU
lol

>>32465175
>Hemingway
>Elephant hunting
>not using .303

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>>32464405
I think .308 is more practical in standard loads.

>>32464580
BAR is kind of meh.

>>32464680
I've seen some .30-06 AR10s, pic related is a Noreen
They're awfully expensive though, especially the magazines.

It's to the point that if you can afford it, you might as well step up to their .338 AR10 and be done with.

>>32464936
Flip of a coin, really.

>>32464593

how hard is 8mm to get in australia and what kind of prices would you be looking at for 20?

>>32466455
This.

8mm is fucking lit tbqh

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>>32464405
.308 mainly because a much wider variety of guns shoot it while ammo cartridges and brass itself are generally cheaper/easier to find with a equal amount of variety. Also, BA rifles have a shorter throw and semi-auto tends to cycle more reliably, but that's just my impression from personal experience.

whats the best round for a scout rifle?

need a mag that hold 10 rounds at least. need something accurate for up to 200 yards. Need it to pack a massive punch.


open to to anything semi-auto. no bolt action.

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>>32464593
>tfw 8mm used to be 5 cents a round and you could buy it by the literal 55 gallon drum

>>32471070
Desired rifle weight and price ranges are necessary.
At this time I recommend .50 BMG - Barrett M107A1.

>>32465001
This.

All other answers are void