What is the best gun ever and why is it the SG550?

>>32461533
Finally, my kind of thread

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>>32461533
Plz continue.

>>32461568
Its pretty cool

>>32461533
The SIG 550 is too long and too heavy. Swiss special forces replaced it by the 551 and 553. That said, it's rugged, can take a beating and it remains perfectly accurate.

>>32461533
That's not the SG542.

>>32461533
I have a 556, and recently found out that Sig basically discontinued the 550/556 series

Good luck finding parts.

I wanna know how legal it is for me to drive up to Canukistan and get a 20in barrel, gas system, handgaurd, and stock, so I may attempt to 922r convert a 556

>>32461772
Makes me sad. The Sig 551 is my favorite rifle, but it's impossible to find a Sig 551a1 or 556 classic anymore since Sig discontinued them. But thank god they made a bastard AR to go with their 14 other ar models. That's what the market really needed.

The 556 is so high priority on the list of guns I need to buy now, because I'm 900% sure the prices will skyrocket soon.

>>32461829
Yeah, I'm seriously considering buy another, just because of that. I'd prefer that Sig just start making them again, so that I could have spare parts for the one I already own.

>>32461533
Oh look, the overly engineered AK thread again....

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>>32461533
>What is the best gun ever and why is it the SG550?

It's certainly not the SG550. It's too front heavy, and not very modular (without adding a fuckton more weight).
It's fine for target shooting from prone, but any long standing shooting will tire your arms right the fuck out.

I'd argue an SG551SB would be far more suited for the title, but would still fall short compared to more modern rifles. I love mine to death, but here are some of my nitpicks:
- Balance: Even with the shorter 551, the balance is still forward. Any attempt to put on a quad rail and accessories will accentuate this.
- Safety: While the selector is designed for ambi usage, the takedown pin has one side which protrudes and is kinda annoying. The stock hinge can also be annoying for a lefty manipulating the safety.
- Mag changes: While the mags are god tier, the rock & lock kinda slows you down compared to an AR15 style mag release. I like it personally, but if I were a fighting man, I'd prefer the alternative.
- Furniture: Front furniture can be slightly loose. Slight movement can be observed. Doesn't effect functionality at all, of course.
- Sights: Stock sights are great, but cannot be taken off. If you get the picatinny version, you have removable but inferior sights.
- Aftermarket: The aftermarket is small & expensive. You can find stocks, rails & quadrails, but be prepared to pay A LOT.

Probably missed some thing, but there you have it.

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I have the three latest Swiss army rifles.

The Stgw 90 is a nice rifle, but it has a couple of problems:

There's little choice on aftermarket, barrels and other stuff compared to something like an AR15. You basically pay for a rifle that you can't really modify to your wishes.

It's heavy and made for prone shooting. The gas tube rusts very easily if you don't take care of it immediately after shooting.

Now it has amazing accuracy and it's extremely well made, the problem is that it's too expensive for what you get.

A brand new Stgw 90 costs around 3.4k, for that same price you can get an amazing AR15 that will outperform the Stgw 90 in most aspects.

If this rifle was 1k cheaper I would have a different opinion.

I've tried a B&T APC the other day and I find it much better for a Swiss rifle.

>>32461991
Im assuming you live in switzerland?
Do you think id be a nice place to go on vacation, christmas vacation was dissapointing this year so id like to try something different next time.

It is a fine rifle for the doctrine of its employment. If I wasn't given one for free and I had the money for an AR, though, I would definitely go for an AR.

>>32461991
>A brand new Stgw 90 costs around 3.4k

I thought they brought the prices back down again?

>>32462153
Not the guy but no. I bought mine this fall and it was 1460CHFs

>>32462197
*3460

>>32462005
It's a nice place to visit if you have quiet some money to spend. Switzerland is an expensive destination

>>32462197

When I bought mine, it was 2100 euros, then I heard it had risen to 3250 euros, but then I remember someone telling me it went back down again. I guess not. Maybe he saw old stock in a store.

>>32461772
Isn't the 556xi similar as a 556 upper?

>>32462243
The are interchangeable. The XI us basically a parts kit on top of the 556

>>32462229
In that case il put it on te backburner and look at other places. Any nice countries youve visited?

>>32462273
If you want to go to Europe, Dublin, London, Paris or Firenze, Naples and Roma are nice places. Though Italy is the only European country where you'll eat almost gastronomic meals for nearly nothing

>>32462005
Switzerland is boring as fuck and I'm Swiss, so that should tell you how it really is over here.

If you are into hiking, nature stuff and skiing then yes, Switzerland is the place for you.

If not. Go some place else.

>>32462252
Is it possible to change out the furniture on an XI or other 556 model to turn it into the classic? I don't see many 556 classics for sale, and if all I have to do is change some furniture I'll buy one of the other kind.

>>32461789
Illegal in both the US and Canada, as well as a violation of UN arms trafficking restrictions.

>>32462981
It's normal that you find your own country boring though, you've lived there your whole life

You know, you could just call this "Swissfag general" without the bait...

Does anybody have a 553? It's next on my wishlist and I wonder if the balance on it is notably better than the 551 SB.

>>32461581
>Swiss special forces replaced it by the 551 and 553.
That doesn't mean anything at all. I cant think of a single western SF outfit that uses their countries default service rifle.

>>32461581

>Swiss special forces replaced it by the 551 and 553

Nah man, they're only using the 552 and 553. The 551 was adopted by the GSG9 tho.

>>32463385
Is it really? I sorta figured as long as I stayed 922r compliant and wasn't bringing over any recievers or actual completed firearms I'd be good to go.

I don't wanna rip apart airshit for my plastics, and pay out my ass to have a 20in barrel made.

>>32461789
Violating 922r is by far the leas of all the illegal things in that post.

>>32463612
What are you talking about? The SG551 and 553 are just short 550s.
>>32463667
552 is GOAT. 551 is good, too.

>>32463717
I can't see anything illegal in that post. Barrels aren't regulated as long as they weren't ever attached to a firearm that would be classified as a Title II weapon and the rest of the stuff isn't regulated at all.

>>32463735
America has import restrictions that apply to parts. As a cancuk, good luck looking for swiss arms parts.

Also...those parts are Swiss and any Canadian parts would not apply to 922r, which is meaningless unless you're an importer or a dealer. No regular joe has been hit with it since its retardedly hard to prove.

>>32463728
As in, the Swiss SF not using the 550 is not an indictment of the 550, but rather a result of all SF not having the same weapon requirements as normal infantry.
The M4a1 isn't bad, but American SOF use Mk18s and Scars
The AUG isn't bad, but Aus and NZ SF use Canadian M4s
And so on.

>>32463761
>Aus and NZ SF use Canadian M4s

iirc the majority of western SF uses some variant of the M4 in a large amount, its vanilla and makes identification really difficult.

>>32463760
>America has import restrictions that apply to parts
The only regulations exist for barrels attached to restricted weapons, the restricted weapons themselves. There's no restrictions on barrels not attached to Title II weapons (and I don't know how they could even tell if it was), the stock, the gas system parts.

>>32463760
You also forget that 922 r has a statue of limitations. Once it is assembled and if you leave it in a non compliant state they cannot prosecute you after the limitations run out.

>>32463784
There isn't? Its been such a bitch importing anything from the states.

Either way, I have no idea why you would want Swiss or Canadian parts to complete 922r. It wouldn't be a bad time to buy parts if you could find them, due to the US dollar stronk.

Does Sig not sell 550 style rifles in the states?

>>32463803
>There isn't?
No.
>Its been such a bitch importing anything from the states.
Now EXPORT from America, that's a bitch.
>Either way, I have no idea why you would want Swiss or Canadian parts to complete 922r.
I don't know, either, since that wouldn't satisfy 922(r) and no one even cares about that law.
>Does Sig not sell 550 style rifles in the states?
We have 10k pre-ban rifles and some limited edition 4k SG552/3 pistols.

>>32463823
>We have 10k pre-ban rifle

Ouch. And I thought 3k was nearly too much for them as well.

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French commando Hubert seem to love to go swimming with their SG551 & SG552/553.

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>>32461991
>The gas tube rusts very easily if you don't take care of it immediately after shooting.

I can absolutely confirm this. The gas tube and the take-down pins rust very easily. Even if you take care of it immediately. The take-down pins rusted when I was in the recruitment school and we went shooting in the rain and the gas tube too. But i think its just the surface nothing much. My plan is to cerakote it as soon as i can take it into my private proprety.

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>>32464325

I dont think its worth 3,4k but you can keep it for 150 Bucks (+50 for licence) after army-service.

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>>32464325

Weird. No issues whatsoever on my side. Built in 2010. SG551SB.

Considering french combat divers love theirs, I find it a bit strange that you're saying it rusts easily.

>>32464337
When you finish the army service we won't be able to own those guns legally due to the EU.

>>32464413
Mine is the official service rifle they hand out to the army. Its the PE90/STGW90. I dont have the "special" version SG551SB. Maybe these "special" versions for the french divers are coated with some anti-rust coating idk.

Or maybe these divers do clean them after the diving immediately.

But it is still reliable as hell.

>>32461533
and why is it the Nemo Omen 7mm Rem Mag?

>>32461936
I've heard it argued that rock+lock is easier for the fighting types cause you can just jam it in there and not worry
I wouldn't know, but food for thought (:

>>32464481
PE90 is the civilian version aka the one without the burst and full auto. They don't give you that one in the army

>>32463853
All pre-bans are like that and the SG has a mystique about it here. It's one of the rarer guns like the FAMAS because it was expensive new.

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>>32464481
>I dont have the "special" version SG551SB. Maybe these "special" versions for the french divers are coated with some anti-rust coating idk.

The SG551SB (Sig 551 SWAT) is supposedly coated with a special rust resistant finish, but I don't know what exactly it entails. I figured it was just marketing bullshit, really.

>>32464506
>I've heard it argued that rock+lock is easier for the fighting types cause you can just jam it in there and not worry
>I wouldn't know, but food for thought (:

Yes, it's easy to secure and you have immediate feedback if it's locked properly or not.
But it's harder to get out quickly. It's an extra action you need to worry about. In the AR15 style, you drop the mag concurrently with other actions. It saves time.

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>>32464565
Thanks, I still seem to mix up the different names for it :)
I dont have the PE90 then, maybe the PE90 has a better anti-rust coating.

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Old source for SG551SB:
>With this in mind, all components of the SG 551-SWAT are manufactured to withstand the rigors of combat in any environment. Exposed steel parts such as the upper/lower receiver, sights, magazine release and trigger are coated in plastic to resist corrosion. The folding buttstock, pistol grip, handguards and magazine are all manufactured from high-impact synthetics. The gas system's components are made of stainless steel. The barrel, bolt, carrier, and firing pin are all made with steel that has been gas nitrided, hardened and tempered. The bolt and carrier, along with most other components internal to the receivers, undergo a special phosphating procedure. The result of SIG's engineering is a rifle that is especially suited for tropical and maritime operations.

I don't have the "plastic coated" parts. But those parts are coated with more or less the same stuff that's on the receiver.

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>>32461533
Mountain shooting is fun

>>32462230
this someone was probably me. i bought a 551 in early 2015 for 2200€. it was over 3k before and gets back to over 3 k afterwards. was generally that cheap for a bit less than a year

>>32465329

And do you know if it's back up again now where you live? Or is it still around 2200?

>>32465329
sorry correction bought it early 2016

>>32465370
back up to 3100-3200. see correction too, i bought early year 2016 (not 2015) for 2200
all these prices are alway for the non picatinny rail version without rear sight diopter included

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>>32461845

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I prefer classics like the G3 or the M14 but the Sig is probaly one of the best assault rifles, third only to the Sako 95 and the Galil AR

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>>32465426
>this is now an upotte thread.jpg
I disagree.

>>32462310
South of France > Paris

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>>32464720
found this months ago, very interesting. maybe someone has the full source to share. this is probably commercial for the 551 SWAT/SB with the mysterious better coatings and environment resistance.

but i never could look up details for this so probably just marketing bullshit. my eurokek factory semiauto 551 long barrel seems exactly using same materials as pic related

>>32464325
Not just the gas tube in my experience, but the piston and gas valve as well, the later being extremely difficult to clean well because of its small size.

>>32465561

Says there that the receiver is also what they call plastic coated. Looks like baked paint finish to me desu. But yes, trigger, receiver etc are all the same coating.

Guess I may have been wrong then about assuming the plastic thing was discontinued. I wonder what they call "plastic coating". Sure doesn't feel like plastic.

>>32461533
In terms of versatility and value for money that would be AR15

SG550 is very nice tho

>>32465592
It's probably a polymer enamel.

>>32465592
yeah the swiss use some weird words even in swiss german , english as well. all i can think about this is something like enamel finish. baked/burned in like you said

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For the same price as a brand new Stgw 90 you can have something like this that would outshoot it easily.

>>32465844
wtf is this thing?

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>>32465885
It's a modernized Stgw 57.

Even without all the fancy rails, if you slap a new match grade barrel on the Stgw 57 and some diopter sights, it will outperform the Stgw 90.

>tfw only have Sig 551
Will we ever see the Sig 550 in the US again?

>>32464735
Wait a second! I recognize that sandsock!

Nope, it's the MCX

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>>32461533
Thats not a scar

>>32467089
Literally never. The 551 is the best you'll get unless you manage to somehow find a preban 550. And even then, it would be pretty expensive.

You just asked a question and answered it yourself.

>>32465413
Damn, that is one heavily modded vepr.

>>32467089
Where did you get a 551?

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That's not how you spell HK416

>>32467648
kind of unrelated but i saw instock scar17s for $3k from a PSA email. its just cool that supply for the 17s is coming back.

>>32468227
Gander Mountain. They had the thing for over a year and no one bought it. Likely because the only people who ever shop there are fudds. After a year I saw they bumped $500 off the price so I went ahead and got it. Didn't come with iron sights but I ordered some from Sig Sauer and they should be shipping soon.

>>32468254
Oh you bought a 551A1.

>>32468289
Yah. It's actually not a bad shooter. A nice change of pace from the usual AR15.

>>32463777
Its also an incredibly versatile, lightweight, and reliable platform.

>>32465844
That is sexy as fuck!

>>32464735
Hongrin?

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>>32465844
Holy shot this is sexy

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>>32465844
That's far more classy than this one

>>32461533
Explain why it's the best gun ever. Not going to argue, just want an explanation.

>>32471593

Because they don't import any, of course.

>>32471593
Precision and reliability. Also swiss "watchmaking" rifle

>>32471593
You take the most reliabel gun in existence (AK) and let the finest craftsman on the planet (the guys who built Rolex aka mountain jews) rebuilt it.
You now have a reliabel, high precision rifle which costs more than you are willing to pay for a cheep soldier life

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>>32468254

A Sig551A1 is nothing like the real deal, bro.

Just look at the american vs swiss barrel profile. Dayum.

>>32465844
:(

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>>32463034
I just acquired a brand new, unfired P556 pistol with a quad rail and I'm gonna try to make it a 553 clone. MFI makes their own diopter rails, flash hiders, and handguards for the 550 series which I hear are all good (except the handguard, which I hear are flimsy).

The other option was to find a way to actually acquire a legit Swiss 550 handguard and cut it and drill holes in it to get it to fit the 556, since the 552/553 handguards are about a half an inch shorter than the 556.

But damn I wish it was easier than this.

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>>32472105

Are you talking of a P556 pistol or a swiss made imported 553?

>>32464244
Why is he wearing Swedish camo if he's a frog?

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>>32472181
>Why is he wearing Swedish camo if he's a frog?

It's common for european units to crosstrain and use the host nation's equipment. Allows both armies to learn from eachother.

>>32472235
From what I've seen, they mostly use each others' equipment, but not uniforms.

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>>32472247
>From what I've seen, they mostly use each others' equipment, but not uniforms.

It happens all the time. Whenever the Luxies come train or serve in a mission with the Belgians for instance, they use belgian camo instead of woodland & FNC/F2000/SCAR instead of their AUGs.

>>32465413
Da fuck?

>>32461533
Swiss armorer here. What do you want to know/see?

>>32472612
see
>>32461991
>>32464325
>>32464481
>>32465591

why is the gas / system such a low quality one?

>>32472247

Patch trading. Guys love swapping whatever they can with other groups.

>>32472858
You mean the gastube by itself, I assume.
Well.I think,its simply because it is in no way necessary for function except for holding the gas nozzle at the gasport. Second is the sub par maintenance by the troop. Insufficient lubrication leads to surface rust, troop using the steel brush to get rid off it instead of taking the time to do it with a rag and the plastic brush, scraping of a tiny bit of the chrome off, causing a bigger exposed area for rust to form, insufficient lubrication and the cycle continues.

I was in service during winter. When we went biwak outside at about 5 below 0. The rifle had to be in, at least, the outer plastic hull of the sleeping bag. The next morning some guys already complained about rust forming on their gas tubes due to the humid air forming in the bag. Of course these guys did not care as they were supposed to. I exchanged my gas tube for a new on shortly before and it was still pristine, even to this day.

I think the biggest problem is that mistreatment of equipment is not sanctioned anymore. Rather than punishing idiots destroying material, guys get thrown into the box for 3 days for a picture of them rolled into a camo net.

>>32472612
whats the army source for the tritium inserts?
have some from swiss company mb microtec. nachtkorn could be brighter i think.

are there small parts like springs etc one should have as backup, which are known to break first usually?

>>32474023
I dont know about the inserts, since the nightsight and diopter drums are being made directly by the industry.
As for broken or worn out parts that would be the charging handle because the plastic became brittle or got nocked off, the klips, the black thing retaining the butt when folded and the roll pin retaining the main spring on the piston, by a huge margin.
Next would be the buttplate or the front sight.
Even rarer now would be the diopter itself being sticky and lifting up whenever you turn the screw due to the old, conical ratchet piece for the side clicks.
Thats about it for the mechanical stuff.

>>32474117
*note that the nightsights would have to be replaced after a certain time according to the beancounters (number on the nachtkorn, night flip up sight) despite them having a halflive of some hundred years, causing huge costs to discard them. Even brand new ones that havent been used yet, just because they have the old number.
I think i mentioned in several threads that i hate these beancounters.

>>32461533
Testing

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>>32474149
But i like the trigger group. You never have problems with it except when an idiot once shoved dirt and gravel in there. Filled the entire poor thing up so nothing could move anymore.To the worst part, he sprayed it eith water and let it freeze. To just, out of his perspective prove a moronic point.
Sometime i am glad the mp is always close, else id have to beat sense into them with a hammer.

>>32474117
>>32474149
thanks for the info man.
you mean the metal housing of the night flip up sight? the tritium has halvlife of 12 years, means it glows half as bright after 12 years. i just changed the small inserts within the turret drumm and within the front flip up piece, no need to change the whole parts. the tritiums inserts are just glued in.

what does the number on the front night sight means? have a "4" on there, looks like stamped over an "3"

>>32472125
I have a p556 pistol but I'm trying to make it a 553 clone

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>>32471832
>reliabel

>>32474497
Well. We are not allowed to. All goes to the industry. Fucking beancounters. But im pretty sure it isnt Tritium. The handbook said something of about 300 years halflive.

The number indicates the timeframe of some years where the sight is intended to be used, 4 is round about 2004, I think by the start of 2016 we were supposed to start using Nr. 6 but somehow arranged it with: Shut up we dont know what youre talking about. (The fact this is the only viable way to prevent or get anything done is pretty fucking sad)

>>32472612

Can you ship a Swiss 550 handguard to the US pretty please

>>32474598
Not out of army stock.
https://www.gunfactory.ch/langwaf/accstgw90zwei.htm
But wouldnt that go against your import laws?

>>32474575
He tried. Which is so commendable.

There is still some work to do with grammar, and facts (try to remember, "true facts" are actually not facts).

But he Tried, so hard.

>>32474587
it is tritium inside, responsible for the self glow. 300 years ist probably the summarized time where these little inserts have any measurable radiation inside. but every twelve years this aktivity is halfed,so is the brightness.

matches my marked "4", really dim , just visible in total darkness. pushed the small metal pipe out of the flippable front sight and insert new ones.

i needed months to get these small tritium insert pipes from swiss manufacturer mb microtech. only ones i found in the whole interwebz, who produce high quality rigid inserts with the right dimensions. for sights, watches and stuff. fit perfectly for the drilled dimensions in the sights, so i guess they are supplier for your army too, but its a total secret n'stuff...

iknow this tritium shit, using it on all my guns. its the only public available self glowing stuff for gun sights. half as bright after 12 years, quarter bright after 24 years and so on.

>>32474693
The army, or rather the logistics bases are not being supplied with it. If anything one of the twelve lazy asses at SAN gets some of these to replace them.

>>32472612
is there a need/ good way to clean the drilled gas port from barrel to kornhalter (sry no english)?

is it normal that the rubber pieces where the charging handle glides through are destroyed quick at the front? have a nice little hole there now for dirt to creep in the receiver

hell no the best is a uzi or intervention

>>32474754
No not really.

They look like a triangle now, dont they. Yes its normal usage of the material. There is no reason to replace it unless its for just looks. As soon as it starts ripping further in then its time to change it.

>>32472612
Do you have to disassemble the diopter rear sight from time to time? Are there parts in it where sufficient grease would be important?

Enjoy your overpriced AK.

>>32474840
Yes. Mostly due to the last point >>32474117
When its disassembled i also usualy change the height screw because its mostly the old pointy model. The new one is flat and elliptic.

Always degrease properly.
Trigger group with a nice brush. Boltcarier and bolt. Especially the groove for the rotation of the bolt and the gastube with the plastic brush. Thats everything apart from the barrel and the rails for the bolt carrier.

>>32474866
Oh I do.

>>32463800
How long is the 922r statue of limitations?

>>32474907
*forgot to add
Lube everything. I just wrote down the generaly important ones.

>>32463612
JTF2

>>32474913

Good for you, then, bro. No, seriously.

>>32474633
Nope. At least just for the handguard no, since I've heard of people ordering from gun factory successfully. I just hear the shipping takes a really long time. I guess in the meantime I'll need to find someone who can cut it down to fit a p556

>>32475008
I think theres a handguard for the 556 on gunfactory. Oh yes just one bellow the standard.

>>32472944
>I think the biggest problem is that mistreatment of equipment is not sanctioned anymore. Rather than punishing idiots destroying material, guys get thrown into the box for 3 days for a picture of them rolled into a camo net.

Kek, the same fucking thing in Finnish conscription. (Unless you actually lose your weapon or elemental parts of it.)

>>32475079
Indeed.
I visited the airbase at Payerne once. In the punishment register there were 3, 3 days of solitary lock up for even slight rust, around the 1920-30.

Those were the days.

>>32474907
DEgrease like no grease?
so is there something to grease inside the diopter?
guess there is some long time finemechanical greas in it from the factory

think i degreased the diopter a little bit as i put breakcleaner spray in the tritium insert holes like the moron i am hoho.

so SAN essentially runs on a few army maintenance tasks and weak civil sales? if they get broke, army produces parts themselves with license? the stgw is there to stay for at least another 20 years you would think

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It's the L85A1.

>>32475237
Yes whenever you clean the rifle you take out the grease as well to take away the things in it.

The diopter should be sufficiently greased as is, unless it doesnt turn freely anymore, then you can just take any gun oil, remove the ruber disk on top carefuly, spray dat shit and put back the disk.

SAN is just the remenants of what stayed behind when the SIG company left to the US and degenerated. As there are just maintenance stuff they dont need that much staff. They wouldnt go broke. Fucking beancounters would just pay even more margin. Indeed it will run till 2030 and maintenance till the 50s .

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>>32475031
It's different from how the 553 handguard looks. There's a few old forum threads about building 553 clones and cutting down a Swiss 550 handguard seems to be best way. You can actually purchase those 556 handguards that were imported by sig here in the US, but yea they look completely different.

>>32475371
noice, thanks for all the professionel input. last question. i have a 551 LB pretty new, just shot to 100 metres max. official army zero procedure is "hole 3" at 30 metres bullseye equals second hit at 300m ?
does the turret really hold zero out to 300 m when you turn/spin it between shots?
because there is some play/spiel at every position( 1 to 4), its not a really hard "snap in" on every stop

>>32475488
>i have a 551 LB pretty new, just shot to 100 metres max. official army zero procedure is "hole 3" at 30 metres bullseye equals second hit at 300m? Yes,I think, at least with the 550, dont know for certain with the short ones. Kneubuehl did the physics on it. (Koryphäe in Ballistics)
>does the turret really hold zero out to 300 m when you turn/spin it between shots?
When its nicely greased/oiled it fits snugly and holds zero, try a bit of oil and it should work as intended.

>>32475563
*If not, use the standard practice of always turn it to the same extreme, left or right.

>>32463612
Last time I checked US special ops used AR's as do the Canadians.

>>32474937
5 years.

>>32475605
Yeah, short carbine ARs as opposed to M4s and M16s. This is in line with Swiss SOF using carbine SIG 550s (551/2/3s) as opposed to SIG 550s.

>>32461789
>>32463710
>>32463735
the Sig 550 cannot be imported to the US in any form

>>32475949
It's not a 550, it's just a 556 with a 20 inch barrel.

>>32475949
No you are incorrect

>>32475949
>the Sig 550 cannot be imported to the US in any form
In any form? Well, that's not true. He's not importing a 550, though, he's importing parts.

>>32461789
Everything but the barrel should be good to go. Attached link explains the paperwork required to bring a barrel over.
www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/27/478.113a

>>32476157
Fucking A. Why does this shit have to be so complicated? Guess I'll just have a gunsmith make the barrel and get everything else I need that isn't prohibited.

>>32471658
>>32471832
>muh watchmaking
>muh crafstmanship

Top kek, it's just yet another stamped steel gun. Its whole point was to be a cheaper rifle compared to the Stg 57, but it is still vastly overpriced because of high wages in Switzerland as well as because they knew they could milk the state as much as they want, as there was no contender.
Realistically speaking, it should cost less than a budget AR15.

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So basically this, then?

>>32476368
It's not overpriced because of high wages but because there's only 12 guys to make the whole country production. STGW90 cost nothing a while ago

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>>32461533

Sig-Chan is cute!!!

how dare this thread go so long without stating this.

>>32476396
But?

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>>32476422
...women?

>>32476396
>>32476478
>being so bad when even a kid can hit dead center with this rifle at 300m
Kinda sad

>>32476368
also its a fucking small company an its cost is absolute average on the european market like every else semi rifle above the cheaper AK quality and accuracy. you know its a pretty noguns continent, supply and demand and stuff. i dont get a medium quality AR or g3 clone for less bucks in my eurokek country. overpriced is always a weird concept.

muh craftmanship is indeed a thing with the sig boy. you get a rigid army proofed sub moa rifle which is more accurate than any fucking soldiers AR. of course with the AR you have more possibilities to pimp it same or more accurate but then you enter your "overpriced" land as well.

of course its not as modular and dont have a huge lego aftermarket. remember this rifle is from the 80s

>>32472612

I noticed my service rifle had an X scratched into the front of the gas tube, and going through the armory I found quite a bunch of others that had it as well.

The gun is pretty beat to shit in general (kinda like the one the other guy posted pics of), the gas tube in specific was rusting constantly and had to be replaced.

Is that X some sort of marking to denote a rifle/gas tube as second quality or is that just coincidence?

>>32476401
Wrong the 12 guys are whats left.

>>32476751
X or R both mean revised. Generaly all that pass through a logiszics base get revised. More lubing.

>>32476396
>>32476478
Hang on a second.... A manga about the swiss armed forces? Wut?

>>32477069
Just a little one shot, it's here:

http://ak-scans.wikia.com/wiki/Other_Projects