Ban Lead

>>32460465
It's dense and cheap

Wash your hands and stop going to indoor ranges with shit filtration systems

>>32460479
this
just look at steel shot vs lead shot price differences

>>32460503
This.

Also double check your home for sources of lead (pipes and paint are very common). It could be something closer to home than the range. Or a compounding of range and home exposure.

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>>32460465
If it's the range and there aren't better ones nearby wear pic related

>>32460465

>go to range
>go rub backstop for good luck
>lick delicious mix of lead and cheeto dust off hands
>doctor says lead poisoned

how did happen?1!?

wtf ban lead

OMG OP is a babby-killer who wants armor-piercing steel bullets.

>>32460479
It's only cheap because other metals are restricted and why does dense matter?

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>>32460870
Sure but why not just use copper?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SMyPr3-ZnOs

>>32460465
Copper bullets exist.
Bismuth shot is not that expensive and non toxic.
The problem is don't lick your fingers or smoke near the idiots that shoot lead next to you even in the open range.

Enjoy your EDTA lead chelation. It sucks.

>>32460465
>using an indoor range
there's your problem you fucking retard.

>>32460465
Carboxyl acid is also supposed to chelate lead. Hope you like cilantro.

>>32460923
Links to these magic ammos?

>>32460932
Not everyone fucks their sister out innawoods away from society everynight

>>32460972
Does cilantrl really help? I may start eating that stuff in bulk then

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>>32460768
>rub backstop for good luck

>>32460465
Thanks for activating my Autism.
Just ordered a water Lead test kit.

>>32460768
this guy

>>32460465
>tfw your friendly local indoor range only allows lead free ammo
>their lead free ammo

>>32460479
And soft.

>>32460906
That is 100% false.

>>32460465
Lead in the bullet won't bother you.

Lead in the primer in a sealed indoor area will.

>>32460479
>>32461150
Enough about OP's mother ok

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>>32460917
Because copper is expensive, you dumb fuck. It's Un-American to price those with lower incomes out of shooting because you're too much of a retard to not eat the dirt on the range floor.

>>32460906
>why does dense matter?
Holy fucking shit. Really?

>>32461132
It's almost as if government regulation leads to monopoly but OP doesnt care because he had a headache.

>>32460906
What is kinetic energy for 100 alex?

>>32461050
>Not everyone fucks their sister out innawoods away from society everynight
shame that, been years since she made me go down on her: she was 12 i was 7. she's pretty milfy now.

>>32460465
thats why i dont shoot at indoor ranges. what do you think is in all the gunsmoke?

>>32460465
Drink some cement and harden up

>>32462034
Matt Dillons

>>32460465
>I was hurt by something
>let's ban it !

Fucking preschooler minded manchilds.

>>32460972
I can't stand cilantro

>>32460917
Copper is more expensive then most metals per pound anon. If you rececle steel its like 5-10 cents a pound and clean copper will be upwards of 1-2 dollars.

Wtf I hate lead now

>>32461553
Are you implying that if ammunition restrictions were lifted and stuff other than lead was used to make bullets, ammo would become unaffordable to poor people? If anything, they would just have to cut their number or range rounds per year down like 15% or just make some more money.

What about all the environmentalist taxes/court/political fees we could reduce by not having hippies bitch about lead poisoning the environment at outdoor shooting ranges?

Gun, gun finds a way and broke people having to reduce their range ammo a few points is a pretty weak argument.

>>32461595
Someone think about this

>>32461929
There's infinite ways to achieve this without lead that the free market would make affordable without excessive regulation.

>>32462000
Your digits indicate this might be true and, for once in my life, I'm glad i'm a city folk.

>>32462034
Not everyone can drive out that far all the time or lives innawoods

>>32462059
Ok what about just reduce regulations on other bullet making materials so their price comes down and shooters can pick from all different kinds? As of right now almost all ammo is lead based besides a few specialty manufacturers like
>>32460917

>>32462235
>Ok what about just reduce regulations on other bullet making materials so their price comes down and shooters can pick from all different kinds? As of right now almost all ammo is lead based besides a few specialty manufacturers like

Sure, reduce regulations, perfectly fine with that.

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>>32462196
What about every other metal/element in existence? You're telling me that if manufactuers were competing for customers to make affordable non-lead bullets that none of them would be able to come up woth something efficient and effective???

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>>32460465
Well, lead is cheap and easy to mitigate the risk of poisoning. All-copper bullets, or steel bullets wrapped in copper, are the next best thing but still lighter/more expensive/different performance.

1. If you really worry about it, shoot TMJ (This means no cloud of lead in front of you every time you shoot)
2. Don't walk around the range with your mouth open like a /v/ mouthbreather
3. Don't lick targets, your guns, bullets, or your fingers after you touch all of the above
4. If you work in an indoor range or have extreme exposure, use a dust mask to mitigate risk to nothing
5. Before you ask yourself if Water is really all that safe either, just fucking jump off a bridge for the rest of us

>>32462242
They could probably get close ... if anybody gave a crap. Most people don't care that ammo is lead. Lead is IDEAL for bullets. It's dense, soft, has a low melting temp, and is relatively cheap cheap. Zinc is an alternative but it's significantly less dense and not as soft, similar price and melting temp though.

>>32462242
You pick a material that is soft enough to take working e, hard enough to not fall apart in the barrel, dense enough to work as a lead substitute, and can be made to expand or stay uniform like a hard cast round.

>>32462220
>poor people deserve fewer rights than me

Let me guess, you grew up upper middle class?

>>32460465
did you wash your hands and wear gloves when cleaning your gloves? if not fuck you

>>32462220
>ammunition restrictions were lifted
you're gonna have to do a shit load of legislating to get copper prices anywhere near lead. it costs like 250% what lead does right now

>>32462272
>did you wash your hands and wear gloves when cleaning your gloves? if not fuck you

I know it's probably a typo, but do you have a pair of gloves for the express purpose of cleaning your range gloves

>>32462284
RIP it was a brainfart, meant guns the second time

>>32462270
That's the beauty of America. If you're poor, it's your own fault. Also don't pretend like ammo is bankrupting the lower class or that they would be priced out of a right. Ammo costs going up 15% doesn't infringe on anyone's right anymore than not giving away free government issued AR15s infringes on anyones right

>>32462303
>If you're poor, it's your own fault.
Not true.

>be born into poor family
>be in one of many coal states 20 miles from a city
>no car
>no money
>need to hunt for food
>your fault for being poor

or

>be moderately fine
>wife gets hit by car
>insurgence doesn't fully cover it for x or y reason
>hospital cost puts you into debt

or

>life is fine
>random fucking economic crash
>all assets are now worthless

or all of the above.

There are countless examples where being poor in America isn't your fault.

>>32462317
I bet you love taxing others and taking government handouts

>>32462324
No, I'm mildly libertarian, doesn't matter if it isn't your fault, you don't have the right to sap other people's money, it's not their fault you're poor either so they shouldn't have to pay for it.

>>32462264
The low melting temp is kind of a problem. It's what causes lead fouling to build up in weapons that use lead rounds.

>>32462333
>tfw no osmium bullets.

One day.

>>32462303
Yes the government making it more difficult is infringing you faggot

>>32462265

There are some real morons in this thread. Lead is a resource that is relatively common and has all the aforementioned qualities that make it ideal to be formed into bullets.

This has happened with lead fishing weights already. They were banned due to lead poisoning of animals especially birds. What has happened is that we get inferior steel weights that lack the density of lead and are huge compared to the same weight in lead. They are also more expensive. Which at say 10 cents a round adds up when you shoot thousands of rounds. (Ammunition is already an item that is sold for very little profit) Or insanely expensive bismuth or special alloys that would translate to tripling the cost of the round.

Making ammo more costly decreases demand which in turn decreases manufacturing which of course leads to lower supply and further higher prices to consumers.

>>32462303
>talking about rights
>thinking it's a good idea for the government to go fuck around with metal prices because muh lead free ammo

yeah right
have fun with the economic knock-on effects

>shooting indoors

I never understood how this was legal outside of combat situations. It's literally a heavy metal toxic enviornment that OSHA would ban workers from working in without hazmat gear, but civilians are allowed in there without protection.

As long as you sign the waiver that says in small print *this will kill you* you can enter and hang out all day. Indoor ranges should be used for MOPP training.

All that being said, go the fuck somewhere else to shoot. I'm not paying even $0.005 more per round if it means 10,000 assholes get lung cancer and heavy metal poisoning

>>32462368
except depending on the ventilation it may not even be a problem

i know plenty of people who do most of their shooting in indoor ranges, got their blood lead levels checked, and they're fucking fine. Just don't eat in the range, wash your hands ASAP as you're leaving, and don't lick the carbon off your pistol slide when you're cleaning your gun.

>>32462390
Be sure to wash your lungs with soap and water too. There was a test done somewhere on swat officers and something like 90% of them had obtuse heavy metal poisoning. Don't ask me to post the source it was something in a magazine a decade ago. Shooting indoors will absolutely shorten your lifespan.

>>32462402
except these are literally people i know who don't have heavy metal poisoning

this stuff depends a lot on the quality of the ventilation

>>32462429
Then those faggots don't shoot nearly enough.

>>32462261
>not focusing on the front site post.

>>>32462429
>Then those faggots don't shoot nearly enough.
>all indoor ranges are shit like mine

nigga you need to find a nicer range with actually good ventilation

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>>32462461
I shoot at one 2 times a decade to renew my CFP. Get fucked.

never thought about it until this thread but how should I be cleaning range gloves? Just soap and water and hang to dry?

>>32462538
With your tongue, if you're really paranoid though just look up how doctors are supposed to remove their gloves after a surgery that should help.

>>32462538
maybe it says on the tag
otherwise probably yes with the caveat that i might wash them in a bucket or something and not with the rest of my clothes

>>32462333
>three 3s of truth
Lead defenders on suicide watch

>>32462329
Changing from a toxic substance to non-toxic ones doesn't bankrupt anyone or take away rights. It just means if you want to magdump bullets you need to make a little more money

>>32462357
They are currently making it more difficult to use non-lead bullets because MUH BABY KILLER ROUNDS you statist cuck

This type of argument is how (((they))) will use an environmentalist angle to get lead bullets banned, which will mean all copper bullets, which will mean shooting becomes way more expensive. Rising expenses means less people shooting and will make guns an increasingly niche hobby with less political sway.

>>32462582
>Changing from a toxic substance to non-toxic ones doesn't bankrupt anyone or take away rights. It just means if you want to magdump bullets you need to make a little more money

Forcing businesses to do so does take away their rights.

>>32462359
>implying the market isn't being forced to use lead right now by government regulations on other types of ammo

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>>32461553
>It's Un-American to price those with lower incomes out
What rock have you been under since 1776?

>>32462597
And what about just removing their restrictions on non-lead bullets?

>>32462592
How does that mean all copper bullets??

>>32462603
This too. The market will do fine if manufacturers are allowed to make bullets with stuff other than lead

>>32462611
Already responded to that.
>>32462238

Literally no reason not to lift the regulations.

>>32462620
All copper bullets already exist and there are no other suitable replacement metals that could be used. Steel core is instantly armor piercing classified in most cases. Fucking hippie

>>32462344

I wanted a small ball of osmium as adornment, about 1 kilo, until I saw the price of it...

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>>32460465

>shooting indoors

>>32462623
Ok can we all agree that non-lead bullets should be made available en masse to the public along with the lead bullets that already are then?

>>32462629
Ok so then remove that restriction and allow steel bullets you hippie

>>32462000
Pic of sister

Would a solid copper 5.56mm round be armor piercing due to it's weight, speed and hardness?

If so, that's the real reason you're all being fed lead.

>>32462642
If the market decides that, yes. I never disagreed with this, I never disagreed with anything but the idea of banning lead bullets.

>>32462688
OP here

I am perfectly fine with lead being available as long as there are alternatives readily available. Some bullets being armor piercing shouldn't mean that everyone gets forced($1/round is pretty much forcing) to use lead

>>32462629
The US's law on armor piercing is based on composition rather than any effectiveness
https://www.atf.gov/firearms/firearms-guides-importation-verification-firearms-gun-control-act-definition-ammunition
>A projectile or projectile core which may be used in a handgun and which is constructed entirely (excluding the presence of traces of other substances) from one or a combination of tungsten alloys, steel, iron, brass, bronze, beryllium copper, or depleted uranium

>>32462712
shit wrong post >>32462685
ignore me, hippie hater, post was not meant for you

>>32462649
steel is a shit bullet material but okay, it won't change the fact that lead is the cheapest material out there suitable for bullets. expect nothing to fucking change as a shit ton of people continue buying lead and as manufacturers see no real market for non-lead ammo simply for range use.

>>32462715
>>32462712
Wow so they really do ban ammo based on wether or not it lets you avoid lead exposure rather than it's actual armor piercing capabilities.

Lead defending government shills BTFO

>>32462736
>A projectile or projectile core which may be used in a handgun and which is constructed entirely (excluding the presence of traces of other substances) from one or a combination of tungsten alloys, steel, iron, brass, bronze, beryllium copper, or depleted uranium
Laws/regulations are funneling manufacturers and shooters into using lead, not based on wether or not the bullet pierces armor, but wether or not it doesn't have enough toxic lead in it

>>32462740
>autism, the post
just because the government is incompetent and can't write a piece of legislation worth a damn doesn't mean there's a vast lead conspiracy out there. If anything shouldn't alternative metals corporations be lobbying like mad?

Oh wait, copper costs 250% as much as lead per pound, steel costs 150% as much and will wreck barrels, pretty much everything else is a shit bullet material or expensive as fuck. There's no fucking market for this shit man. Has nothing to do with whether lead is even good or not, it's just basic economics.

>>32462787
See
>>32462750
There are infinite things to make bullets out of. It's just the entire industry is being funneled towards lead.

>>32463071
>>32462787
But yeah lead is cheap/dense

Just remember what happens when it rains up in the hills on a shooting range filled with lead. Anywhere lower is getting a nice leadflow into their system.

>>32462688
>If the market decides that
get a load of this kike-worshipper

>>32463088
>88
Heil Hitler confirms

Who do you think benefits from the goyim getting poisoned by lead more? The 4 trillion dollar a year (((medical industry))) of course.

>>32460906
>why does dense matter?

This is fucking dense.

>>32460906
Does lead poisoning lead to stupidity?

>>32462787
>steel costs 150% as much
Lead: $0.95/lb
Steel: $365/tonne or $0.165/lb

>>32462000
Green text story time?

>>32462303
Sounds like you could use a 9mm aspirin.

>>32460465

It's the same in aviation. 100 oct Aviation Gas has a low lead content. It's not a big deal environmentally because of how little effect it has. But Apperently there is a extremely miniscule rise in lead in water sources that are in close proximity to the airport. That's enough for the EPA. High compression aircraft engines absolutely need the lead. There is no substitute.

Also, Avgas 100LL makes for some of the best cleaner/solvent. It breaks down and removes oil right off the plane. It also evaporates fast, so the chances of getting fined by the EPA are small.

I've even seen guys clean their planes with a pump sprayer filled with Avgas.

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>>32463296
Wait... Are you saying steel is cheaper than lead?

>>32463462
Shh, don't let the goyim hear

>>32463251
Yes actually. Lead poisoning has been shown repeatedly over many studies to cause a measurable decrease in intelligence, typically quantified by IQ.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1797860/
Not a good source I know. Just google it.

>>32462095
Faggot. Cilantro is god tier.

the main problem isn't the lead in the bullets. it's the lead in the primers.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lead_styphnate


of course the lead slugs will pose a long term environmental risk.

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>>32463633
>>32463296
>ATF has been deployed to this anons house with blackbags and dog killing ammunition
Don't you fucking tell them that steel is cheaper than lead you fucking piece of shit. The second they figure out the lead meme were finished!

>>32461112
>Environmental Engineering degree triggered
You know, getting your water tested is never a bad idea. It can save you a lot of grief from a health standpoint, as well as home maintenance. Overly corrosive water is hell on the pipes, and one leaking joint that gets dissolved in a wall somewhere can cause major damage, leading to thousands in repairs, plus airborne mold.

Potential downside is, once you're aware of a problem with drinking water, you MUST volunteer that information if you sell your home.

>>32462494
just like you fuck your sister? you fucking inbred hillbilly.

>>32464602
>Environmental Engineering
that's one step up from Queer Studies

>>32464681
College in general is for dependent faggots that want to pay to get indoctrinated while fucking like a degenerate
>speaking from experience

>>32465211
>t. NEET

>>32465234
Nope

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>>32460465

Sue the indoor range for poor ventilation instead of making responsible and law abiding people suffer.

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>>32461050

Cilantro helps the body flush out heavy metals.

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>>32465285
Can't flush out all the heavy metal

>>32465272
This. OSHA indoor range standards require a filtration system that can handle unjacketed lead round shooting. You could always just call OSHA on their asses, but thats involving the feds and not normally a good idea in general

>>32460479
It also transfers energy well

>>32462402
SWAT officers don't tend to operate in places with government approved ventilation systems

>>32462261
>shoot TMJ (This means no cloud of lead in front of you every time you shoot)
>most airborne lead exposure is from from lead styphnate combustion products from standard noncorrosive ammunition primers

Using nontoxic primers make much more difference compared to the miniscule amount of lead from an exposed base bullet

Lead bullets should be banned
Full removal of lead from all industries & activities should be the end goal

Toxic heavy metal poisoning the population is a jewish conspiracy

..Why haven't we made biodegradable bullets?

>>32460465
>ban lead
you sound just like a gun grabber

>>32466465
>I want to poison myself, my family, my friends, my environment, and my country

how about no, retard

Fact: Half the people in this thread buy leaded gasoline, leaded paint, and use leaded pipes "because its cheaper"

>>32463790
>>32466413
Other way around- the lead styphnate in the primer produces much less airborne lead particles/vapors than what comes off the base.

>When shooters were firing lead bullets, their mean lead exposure was 110 ug/m((3)), calculated as an 8-hour time-weighted average (TWA). Forty-two (89%) of 47 exposures exceeded the Occupational Safety and Health Administration (OSHA) standard (3) for occupational exposure to lead (50 ug/m((3)) as an 8-hour TWA) (Table 2). When nylon-clad, zinc, and copper-jacketed bullets were being fired, the mean exposures to airborne lead were 41, 22, and 10 ug/m((3)), respectively, calculated as 8-hour TWAs. While these alternate types of ammunition were being fired, three (7%) of the 43 samples studied exceeded the OSHA standard for occupational exposure to lead.

Source:
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/00000142.htm

There are a number of other studies that have found similar results, where the majority of airborne lead came from the exposed base or sides of a lead bullet, and only a small amount came from the primer.

So, to reduce lead exposure, shoot bullets that do not have lead on the base or sides exposed. Consider non-toxic primers as well if necessary.

>>32463303
For the love of G-d, NO!

>>32466461
We have

Obama just wont let us have them

>>32466557
That test was conducted comparing unjacketed lead bullets to jacketed lead bullets fired out of revolvers in the early 1980s.

The lead at the base of a bullet isn't subject to the same forces as an unjacketed bullet, and a new study needs to be done with nontoxic primers. This doesn't include the issues of lead being scraped off the forcing cone of a poorly timed revolver and ejected out the sides

>>32463296
What are fabrication costs? I'm sure it's a lot easier to cast or swage a lead bullet than to cast or forge steel.

>>32466515
>I want to shoot myself, my family, my friends, my environment, and my country
we shoud ban guns guys

>lead is dense
>lead is relatively common
>lead isn't radioactive
>lead is easily formed and deformed

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>>32466557
10/10

NEW BETTER THREAD
>>32466711
>>32466711
>>32466711
DELETE THIS OLD THREAD

SAGE

>>32466655
Other tests have been conducted (like Valway in 1989) and have shown similar results. While it is correct that pure lead bullets will produce more airborne lead than FMJ, the exposed base is still a significant contributor, and more significant than the lead styphnate in the primer.

New studies have been done with nontoxic primers, but I'm having trouble finding them online. I remember looking at them a while back.

>>32466730
nah your retardation should be preserved here for all to see

I have lead levels almost to the point which my doctor would have contacted OSHA (even if it wasn't work related, since I worked in a furniture store warehouse at the time) as a precaution.

All I had to do was not be dumb while shooting (no eating or drinking on the range anymore), and wear gloves while preping cases for reloading and during reloading. Also clean up with cold as fuck water and soap designed for heavy metals. Also drank an assload of milo and whole milk.

I also don't go to indoor ranges anymore

Bullets don't cause lead poisoning, primers do.
Bullets cause environmental damage and even that is questionable.

>>32466525
where do you even get leaded paint? 3rd world?

>>32466525
>leaded pipes
PVC is cheaper wtf

>>32467783
if you are tumbling in your house that produces a significant source of lead dust in your living space.

>>32460630
Did you just imply that OP eats paint chips?

>>32468290
given the retarded threads he's been making it wouldn't surprise me

>>32460465
I've gotten zinc poisoning from cutting. We should ban Zin galvanizing.

Just kidding OP is just a raging fag. Although Zing poisoning sucks, wear a mask familand.

>>32463296

how much does it cost to replace the barrel of your rifle when you fuck it up from shooting steel ammo?

>>32468998
The core material doesn't wear out rifling, it's the jacket material. The steel cased bimetal jacket stuff has a copper plated steel jacket.

>>32469051
Jackets do not appreciably wear barrels.
Most barrel wear is from flame erosion. Steel jacketed bullets tend to be on cheap ammo using cheap, more erosive powders.

>>32463088
Spotted the fascist/communist!

>>32468290
One doesn't need to eat paint chips to get the lead into their system via household sources.
A simple renovation that OP wouldn't have thought caused trouble could have caused lead oxide from paint into the dust of the house and later breathed in.
Contact with lead paint can cause the lead to be absorbed through the skin.
Lead pipes can cause the water to become contaminated. This can be made worse by a change in the water (adding a water softener for example).

These things plus if OP picked up shooting at indoor ranges (even the best filtered and ventilated do cause some lead exposure) may just cause him to show signs before the rest of his household.

>>32469230
For all we know, the guy works in a radiator shop brazing brass with lead solder ... yuck!

>>32469360
Has piping not switched to tin/silver solder? I work with electronics and most products use lead-free solder (which is a pain in the ass to work with by hand)

>>32460465
The likelihood you're getting enough lead exposure from a gun range to make you symptomatic is the same as your autism having been caused by Chernobyl.

Look for another cause, faggot.

>>32460465
>Find out I have minor lead poisoning

stop putting things in your mouth OP

>>32471750
>tfw OP's lead poisoning comes from him fellating his pistols after range sessions

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>>32460465
Were you eating in the building, not washing your hands before you leave and after handling firearms/anything gun related? Do they not have decent ventilation?

If it's that bad and the only game in town, wear a 3M filter mask. If that doesn't cut your lead levels the fault lies in either your personal habits or it comes from elsewhere in your routine.

>>32460906
>dense
Once imparted with energy it tends to hold it well.
It's also soft, has minimal monetary value, and has a relatively low melting point making it easy and quick to work with.

>>32465285
So does vitamin C.

should buy green primers op
lead bullets arnt really your problem, although I got to admit admit shooting them over water ways would be fucked up and wrong since it'd probably add up over time if enough people do it often enough to possibly contaminate open water. Wonder if there are any studies done on lead deposited from shooting areas effecting ground water over time.