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Postin pics of my plum 6x5 again

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>>32453150

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>>32453171
Tempting but I gotta pass. Still recovering from Christmas

Hopefully daewoo will buy it off you

>>32453171
I'll trade you Amazon gift cards :'( no money, only gift cards for Christmas

>>32453137
Not an AK qeustion but...

Where can I get a decent VZ58/2008?

Because Atlantic Firearms is only selling the shitty all plastic 'Tactical' and i'm not rich enough to buy a czechpoint (which is going up in price again, yay.)

So there any place I can get my hands on a VZ with wood/steel furniture?

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>>32453249
2-3 years ago, gunbroker, armslist, Czechpoint

>>32453249
for a Century VZ2008, here is one for $650ish and all you'd have to do is buy the front upper and lower handguards from ebay and swap out for the plastic tacticool. pistol grip too, if you don't like the one on this gun.
http://grabagun.com/century-arms-ri2423x-vz2008-762x39-rfl.html

also, gunwatcher dot com is your friend.

>>32453199
Nah i have no need for fancy bayonet, for the right price possibly. Id rather buy mags and ammo atm

>>32453249
Just save up for the czechpoint. It is a far superior rifle to the century vz2008

>>32453297
I think I was just going to buy a bunch of 5.45 bakes with the cash anyway, I don't even really need a bayonet. I need more mags and ammo first too

>>32453316
>>32453272
Thanks for the good advice.
>>32453262
Very Insightful, Captain Hindsight. Now to where may I find a time machine?

>>32453297
you get my email?

Does anyone have pics of the KVAR FM-AK47-11 with RPK wood furniture? I'm thinking about doing one up but don't know if the aesthetics are worth it considering the lack of a cleaning rod.

>>32453381
>Now to where may I find a time machine
It will be easier to find someone uneducated and still willing to sell the gun for ~$450

>>32453412
it might be easier for him to find a time machine.

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>>32453137
I'm looking at getting into aks, is this a good one?

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>>32453439

>>32453439
The best,
But prepare for ghosts...

>>32453388
Ya sorry ive been busy as fuck. If you dont mind waiting ill take it, but i have other investments in the working so i currently am tapped out on cash.

>>32453357
What kind of bakes ?

>>32453540
I understand completely man. I can wait.

>>32453540
I'm looking for izzys or preferably tulas in NOS condition. I'll probably just list it on the files

>>32453566
Ah i see, i have some east germans that are NOS, but thats not what you are looking for. Im sure somebody will buy it on files quickly.

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>>32453439
Czech ak best ak

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>>32453623
Glad to see you like the vz.
You wouldn't happen to be looking for a ultimak rail for your papm92?

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>>32453669
The saftey marking are obnoxious on those paps .

>>32453688
Eh the marks dont bother me to much.Still dumb tho.

Are the aks on atlantic firearms any good? Are the romanian ones wasrs or what?

https://www.atlanticfirearms.com/component/virtuemart/shipping-rifles/morr-aam-rom47-red-detail.html?Itemid=0

>>32454127
It's kit builds if it doesn't say WASR.

>>32454127
No, those are just PM Md. 63 parts kits built by who knows with who knows what. Last I remember you could find a real WASR-10 on Atlantic.

>>32454127
They're not WASRs, no. They're kit builds by a third-party, which are sketchy, but may be ok. Someone on here may know that company. Wait for reviews from people that own builds from that particular company.

>>32454166
Just don't buy kit builds.

My wasr has trouble feeding hollow points. Is this normal?

>>32454240
>Is this normal?

no.

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>5 bucks for 20 rounds
>even if not adjusted for inflation, you get a 25c per round deal, for rounds with M43 tier performance, and you don't even get the Hollywood "armor-piercing Chinese ammo" meme since the steel core is too mild to be of any use in that regard

>meanwhile you can get Golden Tiger on the internet for 23c a round, which yaws like a fucking Yugo surplus round in ballistics gel / human tissue.

Am I being memed on when people tell me about the "good old days" of cheap Chinese ammo?

how loud is an ak? could i shoot one in my yard without disturbing my neighbors inside a house about a quarter of a mile away?

>>32454281
I would guess this is just gun store price gouging which was probably even easier before the days where everybody had the Internet in their pockets. You could probably order a spam can from a catalog for a good price or something.

>>32454320
Loud. It depends which direction you're facing. They'll almost definitely be able to hear the shots but it wouldn't be loud enough to disturb me, whether or not it disturbs them is dependent on them and whether or not people in your area shoot on private land often, and also how many trees are between your houses to break up the sound, etc.

The last time I went shooting I could hear other people shooting from three different directions, it was great

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Got some furniture made/finished by z_recto on the files. Pic related man does good work. I think I'm going to end up putting it on my 107 instead of my 104 now that my 104 has been BLACKED

>>32454351
He's really good

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>>32453688
Hey mate, I got your email cause my 4chan one forwards to my work one. I've got the tracking, I'm gonna send it to ya when I get home from the range today

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>>32453402

>>32454240
Your magazine is shit or your feed ramp is fucked

>>32454359
How good of an AKS-74 does an SLR104 make?

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>>32454632
It's a factory built AKS-74

>>32454643
Yes but how ACCURATE of an AKS-74 is it, is my question.

>>32454657
>ACCURATE of an AKS-74
about 4 moa

Please suggest places that I can ship my Saiga to and have it converted.
I have asked many times and never gotten any response.
Thanks in advance.

>>32454670
Stop

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Was thinking of getting this. Anyone had experience with this?

>>32454680
Mario, bitchboy

>>32454697
Price?

>>32454698
who is mario bitchboy?

>>32453669
I thought that might have been you this morning based on location. Shoot me an email. Haven't been looking but open to it.

>>32454739
On sale for 619

>>32454741
https://pieceofhistoryfirearms.com/
Here works here, faggot

>>32454697

Teak wood my ass. Classic kills me sometimes.

>>32454751
I suppose that's not too bad these days, I'd probably buy it. Or you could wait a few months and see what happens.

>>32454697
its bretty gud, but unremarkable.
stock is meh/10 and I would've liked a wooden grip

>>32454751
If it were me I'd spend $60 more and get the WASR.

>>32454792
Why would you spend MORE on a WASR?

>>32454752
thanks cumstain.

Anybody else got any more recommendations for having a Saiga converted?

>>32454686
its true

>>32454796
Because yugos are shit and if you absolutely have to have a bottom of the barrel AK, get a WASR.

>>32454814
What's shit about them?

>>32454632
Fairly good. The Arsenal Bulgaria 74s are made on Russian machinery and based on the Russian 1983 production variants. If you're looking to do an Afghan War clone, it's a pretty solid foundation.

>>32454680
I have either you or someone else some recommendations a thread or two ago.
>Meridian Ordnance
>JBI Armory
>MY Guns
>Gewehr Werks
probably forgetting some but that should be a good start.

>>32454826
>The Arsenal Bulgaria 74s are made on Russian machinery and based on the Russian 1983 production variants.
How did you find that out.

Neat, guess I'll buy a triangle SLR104 and invade Arizona.

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>>32454765
Well its on sale. MSRP is 780. I am just wondering if anyone has any experience with Zastava AK's and know if they are good or trash.
>>32454766
What do you mean by unremarkable

But yeah the stock is something of least desire but, I am going to replace it.

>>32454843
MSRP is bullshit they completely made up. I'd wait for the new year, at least.

>>32454632
Bestuddahbest

>>32454843
unremarkable in that it did what it should well, but not "amazingly good" or "bad", just decent

anyone know which aks isis uses? do they have high quality arsenal aks or shitty io ones?

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So whats better. Romanians or Yugos

>>32454875
They have whatever they could get their hands on. Arsenal definitely isn't supplying them but if Bulgaria is in the area then I suppose they could capture one of their milled shitguns they sell to the stupid fucking Bulgarian army.

>>32454885
It's a wash, choose which one you like best. I wouldn't pay more for a WASR, but at the same price I'd get the WASR because it has a chrome lined barrel.

>>32454885
yugo yugo yugo my fav, many history

>>32454826
Thanks for those recommendations. It wasn't me before.

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got some of that paki tape and put it on my M92 and underfolder WASR

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Is there an official name for the AKS74s that the Russians have upgraded to AK74Ms?

They have all the AKS74 barrel components, gas levers, and sometimes ribbed top covers and faceted short collar brakes and other times smooth top covers and modern long collar brakes. Do the Russians have a specific designation for them?

I'm on my phone and have no pics of them with on it but I've got quite a few on my computer from Ukraine that if I remember I'll post some when I get off work.

>>32454971
gay

>>32454748
Email sent

>>32454840
Autistic levels of research in the process of planning my own Afghan era AKS-74. There's going to be a few small details that will be wrong when compared side by side to a Russian Izhmash AKS-74, most notably the stock (Bulgarian 4.5mm triangles have ribbed buttplates and occasionally rolled struts like the Tula 4.5mm triangle; Izzys have flat buttplates and straight struts). But, to your average derp at the range, the moment you put wood furniture on the front and a bakelite grip on (bakelite grips are accurate for 1983-spec rifles), you'll have something that's just gonna scream "Red Dawn/9 Rota" like I'm assuming you're going for.

There's some good info here if you're interested in learning more, but I warn you, historical AK building/cloning is a very, very deep rabbit hole: http://www.theakforum.net/forums/29-russian/149410-russian-vs-bulgarian-4-5mm-triangle-folder-questions.html#post1386957

>>32454890
In all likelihood ISIS is probably using mostly Russian AKMs and Type 3 AK-47s supplied to the Syrian army, in addition to Iraqi Tabuks. There's probably a smattering of other types like Yugos and Egyptian Maadis, but considering where they are (and who keeps dropping their shit and running), Russian and Iraqi guns are probably the most common.

>>32454999
They just call them AK-74Ms.

>>32455083
I used to be into the history of AKs but I've long forgotten most of what I knew. Thanks for the info.

Is it impossible to turn my NPAP into an NPAP underfolder?

>>32455105
It's not impossible but it's not worth the effort to give your gun the worst AK stock.

>>32455083
I love it when people ask for a source for information and I get to answer "my own autism is the source"

>>32455083
When did they switch to plum and triangle?

>>32455142
86ish, started with shiny plum and by 88/89 they had transitioned to matte plum

>>32455118
In all fairness I did give a source shortly after. Nick/Tantal in the post I linked is considered to be one of the most well-respected AK historians out there. Even Snickers gave him a shout-out on his Tula AK-74 video.

I'm also fairly sure the "Bulgaria uses Russian parts/machinery" bit is in the Kalashnikov Encyclopedia as well, but I don't own it so I can't confirm. I know someone here does though; maybe they can pull the appropriate scan.

>>32455142
Triangles from what I can tell have been around since the early days of the AK-74 since using a triangle folder makes it an AK*S*-74 (the paratrooper variant). As for plum, I'm not 100% sure since my build is an '83, but I remember reading up on the 1985 production variant and finding that those had plum grips but wood handguards that were "leftovers" from earlier AK-74 production variants. If I had to give a timeframe for when the Russians went full plum, late 1985/early 1986 would be the best bet.

>>32455191
Tantal's name is Doug, he's the grand wizard of AK knowledge

>>32455191
Oh no I'm not harping on you for autism source, I legitimately mean it. Like nigga I can't point you to a specific website, I know this because I've dug around for autistic details concerning this stuff for a long time and I just know it from satisfying my autistic interest in AKs by researching

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Reposting from last thread.

>>32455210
>Doug
fug

I thought there was another prominent Nick in the AK world whose claim to fame wasn't DDIposting, but I guess not.

>>32455220
are you going to swap rear trunnion for your 104 plan?

>>32455240
I'd love to, but the only AK-centric gunsmith in my area is either dead or doesn't like money because they haven't responded to any calls or e-mail!

>>32455257
You and me both buddy

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what sight should i get for my ak if i want a reticle like the kobra sight from bf4

>>32455308
Wondering if it would be worth it to just bide my time and see if an SGL-21-94 pops up...

>>32455333
A... Kobra? What's your budget?

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Alright turns out I can get a Saiga for either $700 shipped (possibly used) or $800 shipped (NIB) that is already rear converted.

Gunsmith quoted me $100 plus parts for the front conversion.

Should I go for that, or buy an SAR2 that is used for $700 + shipping? I will replace the Saiga with wood furniture and the SAR2 already has that.

Pic related is the one on AKfiles for $700 (would come with a standard stock that I would replace).

Basically is Saiga worth a couple hundred extra than an SAR2? I do have to say that the Saiga being Russian is appealing.

>>32455333
Oddly enough, the Kobra sight has that reticle.
I know, it's crazy!

>>32455358
oh cool i thought it was a thing in real life

>>32455333
Hmmmmmm, probably some sort of an aimpoint conversion considering kobras don't exist irl

>>32455371
didn't think*

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>>32455375
yeah this is photoshopped. atlantic is lying

>>32455358
>>32455371
Aren't there multiple versions of the Kobra with different reticles? I seem to recall the most common type being one with a delta reticle and a BDC for 5.45.

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Just picked up a VEPR in .308.

What scope mount and what Vortex optic should I buy for it? It will be used from 100-500yds primarily.

>>32455388
You can cycle through multiple reticles on them

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rate my 104 senpai

after shooting it last weekend, I'm not as fond of the triangle folder as I was before.

>>32455398

>cuck locks
>no lugs

A fixed power optic because those are bench rifles.

>>32455356
There is an sar2...on gunbroker....right now...new old stock.....for less than that............right now.

>>32455476
Yeah, no tacticool shooting with the mag locks.

I don't care about the lugs that much considering I'm not trying to bayonet charge an animal or paper.

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>come home for lunch
>cats instantly come hang out
Cats rool, dogs rool slightly less

How good/bad are gen2 dogleg rails?

>>32455454
The tri-folder is the most A E S T H E T I C, though.

VAFag actually selling bakes when

>>32455581
Probably not for along time considering he got v&

>>32455454
nice mini tacticool
9/10

>>32455523
>drive up driveway
>dog sprints up to my car despite the fact that she's arthritic and can barely get up off the ground anymore
>spinning around and hopping and barking
>when I get out of the car she pushes her face against my leg hard enough to put me off balance

>>32455581
he hasn't posted with his trip for over a month.
got an email from him at about the same time, nov 24th I think it was.

>>32455592
this is what I heard. not actually arrested, just a visit and told not to do it again in a very intimidating way.

>>32455580
I do agree, which is unfortunate.

Shooting from a rest makes that shit slap into your cheekbone and it hurts after a few times.

I might need one of those trifolder storage bags

>>32455523
When I was in college, the cockatiel I had at my apartment learned my schedule to the point where when she heard the hydraulic brakes on the bus stop in front of my place around 3:30, she'd start screaming for attention until I opened the door, at which point she would run back and forth at the bottom of her cage until I got her out. She'd then fall asleep on my chair.

Pets are great in general.

>>32455618
Or you could get somebody to punch you in the face over and over every day, for months or longer until you toughen up some. I think that's how they do it in russia.

>>32455618
Tourniquet wrap and, if absolutely necessary, a GP-25 recoil pad. Done.

>>32455644
>>32455638
Well I've got it wrapped with paracord which helps when I'm shooting from anything other than a rest, but yeah. I've considered a GP recoil pad before

>>32455644
>Tourniquet wrap
gay

>>32455616
Damn. I liked va. If your still anon posting I appreciate the mags last time. I was down for a bunch this time from my last email to you a month ago but I understand

I found a guy selling a Century C39 sporter for 525$
I think I could get him down to 475 or 450.
Would it be a good deal?

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>>32455523
Also my wife drew me a picture of one of my cats for christmas

I'm gonna hang it above his bed

>>32455616
Wtf? For what?

>>32455695
Kek no
>>32455705
Importing mags without a license obviously, there's a reason why it's all done on the down low

>>32455695
A milled receiver AK for $500 is a good deal anyways

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>>32455703
Your wife has some talent.

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>>32455689
is fine

>>32455398
Any 4x would fill that role. I prefer them to 6 or 8x, love the field of vision and never losing sight of what I'm shooting at.

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>>32455731
She's great

I've got all kinds of drawings and paintings she's done hanging all over my house, even before we were married and before we lived together I had a bunch of her stuff hanging up. I lack any of that kind of artistic talent, I studied music for 8 years and can proficiently play a dozen instruments but when it comes to drawing or painting or any of that then its stick figure tier garbage from me. I just can't do it and it's cool just watching her work on that stuff.

>>32455722
Sounds like bs to me. Shit ton of mags are imported this way yet i haven't heard oif anyone having problems.

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>>32453150
I just picked up pic related about two hours ago and im ecstatic. This thing is exponentially better made than my WASR. So what would be the most cost effective solution for magazines? The only place near me selling 5.45 mags want $50 for one circle ten so I guess the internet is the only answer

>>32455722
probably just his mom forbids him playing with assault clips kek

>>32455815
that doesn't change the fact that it's illegal without a license.
sure you can do it without a license, but it has to be under $100 and he was way the fuck over that.

>>32455824
Pretty much. Get yourself an AK Files account.

>>32455837
Well the declared value was under $100 i assure you :^)

>>32455824
AKfiles man. I buy/sell all my AK stuff there as I'm sure basically everyone else in here does too

>>32455510
Yeah, a minimum bid tard.

>http://www.armslist.com/posts/6259176/massachusetts-rifles-for-sale--century-c39v2-akm-magpul-edition-with-extras----

Wut....

>>32455866
It's in a ban state.

>>32455866
ban state fag thinking his $500 gun is now worth 7x.

What does /k/ think of this for a first AK?

https://www.classicfirearms.com/jrak-ak-amd-rifle-732x39-semi-auto

>>32455911
Ugly as fuck, get a WASR

>>32455911
Classic's AMDs have poor barrel hardness and will not be worth the effort to fix. If you want a cheap "starter" AK right now, WASR is good, as is the PSAK47 V2 (just got an in-stock email from them). Anything else is questionable at best quality-wise up to the Arsenal price point.

>>32455925
I don't care about looks. I know what it looks like already. I want to know if it is reliable and durable and shoots reasonably accurate.

>>32455935
Okay, then get a WASR.

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Who here has a PSL?

Would you buy it again or can you think of a better option?

Looking for a DMR and have really wanted one for a while.

>>32455839
>>32455858
Yeah I've been waiting for them to activate my account for over a week

>>32455510
Jesus who the fuck types like this? Did i stumble into THR?

>>32455973
Get a vepr if you need something like that, PSL beats itself to death

>>32455220
Go fuck youself fascist pig

For those of you going "hurr what WASR" and are lucky/smart enough to have an AK Files account already:

http://www.akfiles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=289914

>>32455973
If they were as expensive as they are now I'd not get one. I love my psl and shoot light ball but I got it for $900 and it's factory Romanian not a parts kit job

>>32456154
Kek that's still a $700 WASR after shipping and transfer fees

Daily reminder that if you cant get a WASR for under $700, you're only 3-$400 off of an arsenal of your choice

>>32456195
is arsenal better than vepr?

>>32456179
It's still a very nice one; certainly better than any off-the-rack WASR you'd get today.

>>32456213
VEPRs are sporter RPKs, is that what you want?

>>32456226
is this one? it looks like a normal ak to me. idk that much about guns though

http://www.gunbroker.com/item/609281956

>>32456240
Yes that's a VEPR. You can tell because of the bulge around the larger RPK front trunnion.

>>32456213
Its very different, but the build quality on the veprs is leagues ahead of what the monkeys at cugir can churn out. Veprs are basically ak length rpks and should be treated as such. Unless you have something to prove its not gonna be very fun dragging it around

>>32456240
>http://www.gunbroker.com/item/609281956
The main thing you'll need to know about this AK is that it's built a bit different than your standard AKM-pattern rifle. It uses an RPK trunnion, meaning that it cannot accept standard AK handguards. It also cannot hold a cleaning rod like a standard AK and has no bayonet lug. Additionally, the RPK design means it will have a heavier barrel than a standard AK and will feel heavier as a result when shouldered.

If you don't care about any of those things, it's probably going to be a solid gun. It's built like a tank and will hold up great. If you want to dress up your gun or run and gun with it, the Arsenal might better meet your needs.

>>32456219
Whatever man

>>32456278
Arsenal does not deal with Cugir

>>32456303
I never said they did

>>32456352
Then why are you talking about Cugir?

>>32455934

Could you trust your life to it?

>>32456617
The AMD? I wouldn't. AKOU ran the other two through the grinder and they came out ok though.

>>32456418
Because they're better than a WASR? I mean that was worded awkwardly but are you normally this autistic? You should seek professional help

>>32456705
Are you retarded? No one was talking about WASRs, you just brought them up. Why are you surprised people are confused?

are the new aks from palmetto state armory better than the wasr?

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Are James River kit built AKs any good?

I wanted a Colt AR, but I'm going to wait a few years and see if SBRs get deregulated so I can get a 14.5" barrel without having to do a pin/weld job. I'm thinking about getting a James River AK-74.

Pic unrelated.

>>32456775
>and see if SBRs get deregulated

Shit, just get one and alter if the regs change, but don't expect them to.

>>32456775
>I wanted a Colt AR, but I'm going to wait a few years and see if SBRs get deregulated so I can get a 14.5" barrel without having to do a pin/weld job.
Nigga, just get a rifle and then get a short pistol upper and do whatever if things are even deregulated

>>32456755
Probably not

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Hey /ak/ help me get into ak's

>1. Is there any left side charging ak's
>2. What happened to parabellum armaments - where can I find thier top rails
>3. What are the best aftermarket parts/mods to improve my ak
>4. What is the better of the ak platforms for hunting purposes/ accuracy purposes
>5. What is the best suppressor, scope mount and scope for the ak
>6. Is there bolt hold open for the ak
>7. Will we ever see the ak5c, ak105, modern as on the us civilian market
>8. Why are the new galils considered to be so shitty
>9. What is the maximum effective point of aim for the ak? (All varians psl, 47, 74, etc.)

>>32455973
Would buy again. I love it to death.
Is there even another legit 54r dmr out there for sale other than overpriced svd rifles, half of which seem to be in the fugly-ish sporter config? And don't say vepr, I'm not talking about any sporters.

>>32456887
>1. Is there any left side charging ak's
You don't need it
>2. What happened to parabellum armaments - where can I find thier top rails
Pretty sure they went under. Get Zenit stuff if you want a railed dust cover otherwise just get a rifle with a side mount
>3. What are the best aftermarket parts/mods to improve my ak
Rifle is fine, fuck off unless there are specific things you want out of one
>4. What is the better of the ak platforms for hunting purposes/ accuracy purposes
The only thing that matters for that is caliber. Stick with 7.62x39 and up.
>5. What is the best suppressor, scope mount and scope for the ak
Depends entirely on what you want out of it
>6. Is there bolt hold open for the ak
None that you can just add on.
>7. Will we ever see the ak5c, ak105, modern as on the us civilian market
What do you think you underage retard?
>8. Why are the new galils considered to be so shitty
Care to elaborate you mong?
>9. What is the maximum effective point of aim for the ak? (All varians psl, 47, 74, etc.)
All I hear is
>hurrrrr I'm 14 years old, look how smart I am

>>32456881
dont they make good ar's though? why are all americans so shit at making aks?

>>32456900
what does sporter mean?

>>32456944
Veprs are sporter rifles, they share an action with aks, but they're not military rifles.
I love veprs, but I'm going to call a spade a spade.

>>32456944
>dont they make good ar's though?
They're okay.
>why are all americans so shit at making aks?
If people were willing to pay for a $1300 US made basic bitch AK then you could get a decent one. Plus economies of scale, etc.

>>32455973
The barrels are long and thin and thus wobbly

>>32456944

That guy has been shilling the WASR pretty relentlessly. The PSAK might not be better than a WASR but it is a really good first AK.

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>>32457019
Wasr is definitely better

>>32456887
>1. Is there any left side charging ak's
Turn the rifle on its side.
>3. What are the best aftermarket parts/mods to improve my ak
Get and RS mount for your rail and put an optic on it, or get a Russian optic.
>4. What is the better of the ak platforms for hunting purposes/ accuracy purposes
Well, that would the VEPR or any other RPK due to the heavy barrel, but I'd say you could hunt with any AK.


Everything else you asked for is just really superfluous.

>>32457019
>That guy
Kek

>>32456980
After the gas block, they only get about as thin as other 762 rifles. And only one half mm thinner than the mosin/kar98k.
Nobody complains about their wobbly barrels.

>>32456944
>why are all americans so shit at making aks?
There aren't as many barrel forging machines as there are in the CIS or Russia.

>>32457044
It's almost like those two rifles are bolt action and the PSL is a gas operate longstroke piston. Seriously, just watch some videos of the PSL firing in slow-mo.

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>>32457050
>CIS

>>32457042
Whatever happened to him?

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>>32456942
>7. Will we ever see the ak5c, ak105, modern as on the us civilian market
What do you think you underage retard?

I think we'll never see anything more than fake repros and small parts.

>8. Why are the new galils considered to be so shitty
Care to elaborate you mong?

When the new galils hit the market everyone here despised it because they wanted 25rnd mags, wood and metal and less mac shilling. /k/ as a whole seems to hate them. Personally a .308 left side charging rifle has my dick hard as accurizing a fal is headache inducing.
>9. What is the maximum effective point of aim for the ak? (All varians psl, 47, 74, etc.)
All I hear is
>hurrrrr I'm 14 years old, look how smart I am

Bro im just trying to learn more.

>>32453137
What are some good 7.62 steel surplus magazines that I can get for less than an arm and a leg?

Also is the furniture that comes with the WASR worth refinishing or should I just buy new shit?

>>32457040

I just want Atlantic to get one in stock so I can give them my money.

>>32457057
So?
The ak has a violent action, but the bullet is long gone before any of that happens.

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>tfw you can't remember where you set down your fully loaded ak mag no more than 30 seconds ago
FUCK OFF AMMO GNOMES!

>>32455542
m8

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>>32457118
found it.
fell under my chair lol

>>32457057
Have you ever watched a mosin nagant fire in slowmo? That barrel whips pretty bad too. It's amazing the collars holding the wood together don't come off more often than they do.

>>32457065
Idk MS or cancer or something

>>32457096
Aim has refurbished polish steel mags for like $11 a piece

They have thick soft paint and might have some dents that might need to be taken care of but they work and are cheap

>>32457118
>>32457145
>Tfw I have more AK mags than I've kept up with how many I have (at least 50 for 7.62x39)
>if I lost a magazine I'd never know it
Wew

>>32457148
And are mosins know for their accuracy?

>>32457149
You people say that about literally everyone.

>>32457191
Yeah, we're right because we're
>literally all one person
Just like the people that say that WASRs are still the best entry level option, especially compared to US made junk
>literally all one person

>>32456746
You can continue to act like youre too people, thats your prerogative

>>32456942
>>32457068

Since you're a bit new to the community I'll be a bit more lenient than the previous poster.
>1. Is there any left side charging ak's
No need for left side-charging AKs. If you're left-handed the system is INCREDIBLY friendly to you. Right-Handed over hand or under hand charging is something you'll have to get used to.
>2. What happened to parabellum armaments - where can I find their top rails
As the previous poster mentioned Parabellum Armaments went under business. They tried and failed to secure a govt. contract which was a big finanical blow. If you want a Top Rail System your choice are either Zenitco (very expensive) or Texas Weapon System (mixed reviews).
Following that up:
>5. What is the best suppressor, scope mount and scope for the ak
Not sure about the best suppressor since AKs have heavy actions, scope mount you can either go with RS Regulate for mounting optics or the Arsenal SM-13 picatinny side mount. RS Regulate makes very good low profile mounting options but is only a 1 item system. Arsenal's picatinny mount will give you many options however is much heavier. As far optics go there's a good variety of Combloc Red Dots or Scopes (Look at the PSOP 4x24 or PK-1 Red Dot) and US Made Optics come in the same variety (5.56 optics will work with 5.45x39, 300B/O will work with 7.62x39).
>4. What is the better of the ak platforms for hunting purposes/ accuracy purposes
7.62x39 will falls into the .30cal category for hunting
>6. Is there bolt hold open for the ak
Unfortunately there is no bolt hold open, but you can buy magazine followers that will allow temporary bolt hold.
>7. Will we ever see the ak5c, ak105, modern as on the us civilian market
Unless the sanctions change this likely won't happen unless another country manufactures a clone.
(cont.)

>>32457381
>Right-Handed over hand or under hand charging is something you'll have to get used to.
It's really not a big deal.

>>32457381
>8. Why are the new galils considered to be so shitty
The new Galil AR are considered to be shitty because they offer little difference in accuracy for almost twice or even triple the cost of your standard AKs.
>9. What is the maximum effective point of aim for the ak? (All varians psl, 47, 74, etc.)
You mean Minute of Angle? It's generally regarded that AKs usually fall in the 2-3 MOA category. Most Military standards are such for nearly all countries (including the US).

>>32457390
Left handed master race

>>32453137

I'm tempted to buy an N-PAP. Any reasons I shouldn't get it over the WASR besides the weight?

would a $700 ak be better quality than a $700 ar-15?

>>32453137
Should I get the PSA AK-47? Looks about WASR-10 tier

>>32457669
Shitty heat treat on some parts, no chrome lined barrel, and it doesn't take standard AKM furniture

>>32457677
Literally read the thread faggot

>>32457670
no

>>32457670
Probably not because part of what you're paying for is import fees and remanufacturing bullshit instead of just getting a good gun straight from the factory.

>>32457688
Alright I was phone posting you caught me. I'll hop on my computer.

>>32457167
200 yards with irons, 4/5 shots on steel about a foot wide. not bad id assume but not the best in todays world.

>>32457885
Yeah that's shit

>>32453137
Can anyone refer me to a good guide about AKs? One that covers manufacturers and where they got their parts from, and some in depth details about all the variants of AKs and differences in parts?

Im new to AKs and just bought an Ak63ds. Seems to have a canted rear sight but only slightly. Wish I was more patient, I might have bought a sub par rifle.

>>32457978
by what standards? Im not the best shot but I think its ok for a windy day with shit ammo.

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Whats up bruhs

$500 for a PAP pistol and 6 mags. Good deal or no?

https://www.preppergunshop.com/century-arms-zastava-pap-m92-7-62x39-ak47-pistol-with-1-30rd-ak-moe-pmag-5-caa-30rd-ak-polymer-mags-with-window

>>32456980
>I've never heard of barrel harmonics

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What are some nice AKs to keep an eye out for assuming prices are coming down? Like which kinds specifically, not just what manufacturers/companies are good?

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>>32458038
Whats wrong with your gas tube lever ?

>>32458115

whats the point of a 30 round mag when you only can shoot 5 at a time at your fudd range?

>>32458137
...?
Don't go to a fudd range then
...?

>>32458137
I have no clue honestly, i dont ever shoot at ranges. Thats some shitty range rules, what state ?

>>32458137
I have never shot at a range.

>>32458044
never heard of those mags,
rule of thumb, steel and bakelite are best.
(romanian/russian/chinese/polish)
tapco mags if you are ultimate poor faggot

So the current AK market seems to be in the toilet. There are so Arsenals left anywhere, WASRs are hard to come by and $700+, NPAPs are also expensive and questionable. It seems to me the best option on the market is PSAKs. For $650 you get a decent quality all US made AK. Is there really any better option?

http://palmettostatearmory.com/blem-psak-47-gb2-polymer-rifle-7792939.html?trk_msg=7VLHSAGH4UA413F3K7HJG3F9MS&trk_contact=U03GALK8DHSIT514K7Q7SSHLES&utm_source=Listrak&utm_medium=email&utm_term=http%3a%2f%2fpalmettostatearmory.com%2fblem-psak-47-gb2-polymer-rifle-7792939.html&utm_campaign=Daily+Deal+Email&utm_content=5%3a00+Email

>>32458564
>Is there really any better option?
WASR if you're poor

American AKs will be garbage forever.

>>32458572
Yeah but its $50 more at a minimum and its substantially uglier

>>32458598
50 dollars more for a chrome lined hammer forged barrel is worth it.

>>32458614
PSA one is still 4150 steel and chrome lined

>>32458564
Got my WASR from sportsmans guide for 670, free shipping because muh membership.

Okay /AKG/, I just purchased a 3D printer. I know a fair bit about the hobby and was wondering what AK related things you guys would buy/want to see printed

>>32458717
Start out small, maybe a trigger? Not the entire group but just a trigger

>>32458727
I dont own an AK though. I just frequent the general.

>>32458717
I dunno, 3D printed stuff is pretty fragile unless you make it super thick, best you could do is maybe DIY Tapco handguards with rails

>>32458717
tactical dildo-shaped handguard

>>32458780
>I dunno, 3D printed stuff is pretty fragile unless you make it super thick
Not if printed at 100% infill, I mean hell, there have been regular AK handguards that have been printed. and even AR lowers with a little reinforcement near the buffer tower.
>>32458781
CAD it for me and I will see if I can print it ;)

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>>32458717
>tfw cuckifornia

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>>32454843
They're good. You can do better or worse. N-PAP's are good, reliable rifles from my experience.

Here's my tacticooled out one.

whats a fair price for a RPK-203 parts kit? russian seller on Facebook has a few.

>>32455512
Make sure you make those guns featureless before the 1st.

>>32454843

They are ok offerings, not great but they are ok and better then U.S made trash.

>>32458814
kek, good luck getting out of there bro.

>>32458820
Probably no trunnion, I'd say $700-900 would be fair.

Anyone have any experience with Riley Defense AK's?

>>32459278
They use IO parts. Stay away.

>>32459278
probably same garbage company that was lancaster with a name change, avoid

try wasr-10/ wasr-10/63- sar1- vepr - opap

>>32459288
>>32459292

Roger. I wish /AKG/ had like a infograph to show the brands there are terrible, okay, and great., along with some other AK info like mags and whatnot.

>>32458647
Not hammer forged.

>>32458867
Zasta, I know you have a few yugo dummy rifle grenades, but how many exactly do you have?

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lord
pretty
flacko
joyde

>>32458614
>>32458647
Why in the world would you encourage a chrome lined barrel?

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>>32459645
Make me wonder if that mag was designed for that gun and just trickled down to krinks and shit

>>32459675
Is it just blowback ?

>>32459659
Seriously man

It's the most vetted bore coating for rifles right now

Nitride. QPQ, other surface trans techniques look better on paper but the testing isn't here

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>>32455092
Really? They don't differentiate them at all?

>>32457040

Any reason I shouldn't buy one off of gunbroker instead of waiting for Atlantic to get one?

>>32459685
I highly doubt it,
It would have to be at least delayed block back at least for 5.545

>>32459705
All research I've done has never hinted an any distinction at least not publicly

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>>32459371
This is pretty close, though supposedly DDIs have been shit lately.

>>32458844
You don't have to register them as Assault Weapons unless you wanna take bullet button off, so I have no intention of making them featureless.

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>>32459711
I dont see why you could not buy one on gb, but you better ask for detailed pics of the component alignment. I also prefer haveing the fall back of atlantics CS, wich is great in my experience.

>>32459735
Thats what i was kinda thinking, you dont by chance have pics of the internals?

>>32459711

atlantic sucks and is overpriced.

>>32459702
It literally makes barrels less accurate all for the benefit of being able to shoot corrosive ammo.

>>32459750

ddi is complete shit with the CEO lying his ass off about its failures.

>>32459659
Why the fuck would you not?
>muh nitride booy
Yeah good, call me when a military factory starts producing CHF nitrocarburized barrels and then I'll care.

>>32459645
MAC in the backpack right by the MacBook.

>>32459754
Dawg have you not caught up with the laws? starting Jan. 1st 2017 the bullet buttons will not be enough to make the magazines "fixed" so if you have any features it will be an Assault Weapon regardless of whether there is a bullet button are not. Where the hell have you been?

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>>32459755
You got the email with your numbers right? Basically since I got back home people have been texting me with shit to fill the rest of my week

>>32459759
That's not what it's for. It, along with hammer forging, is for increasing the wear resistance of the barrel.

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>>32459735
>All research I've done has never hinted an any distinction at least not publicly
Is there any name for them unofficially among collectors/AK nerds?

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>>32459786
Ya sorry i figured you were busy enough and i did not need to send a reply email. Lol

https://www.classicfirearms.com/papriflews
Your thoughts /akg/?

>>32459755

How long does it usually take for Atlantic to get one in stock?

>>32459823
You already asked about this.

>>32459828
Different guy.

>>32459755
Aaaaghhhh maybe on my laptop, I'll try and do it tomorrow

>>32459759
Dummy

>>32459797
I think I remember some vaguely slangs.. Like seventy faux M? Something on those lines? Nothing common or official.

Can't make my eye look in the same direction

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>>32459804
All good, just wanted to make sure since I don't know how much I'll be actually home till basically Sunday at this point

I really need to get logged into that email on my phone, I lost the password so I've been relying on my PC to automatically log me in

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>>32453137
Started from the bottom now we're here.

>>32459685
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8WFOhdVSIXk

Look like short stroke gas.

>>32453627
Absolutely sexy.

>>32459864
>started from the bottom now we still at the bottom but found a cool shirt

>>32459875
FLECKS
L
E
C
K
S

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>>32459875
Here's a shit pic of the internals I found on my computer.

>>32459754
This is my rifle >>32458815 (with a bullet button) and it will be 100% an illegal Assault Weapon in that configuration starting Jan. 1st. Bullet buttons have no legal weight anymore, California law will not recognize them as a form of legalizing a rifle that would otherwise be Assault Weapon. Have you been living under a rock?

>tfw got slr 107 months ago
>tfw haven't put a single round through it
>tfw have 10 bulgy circle 10s sitting around

Why do I do these things to myself?

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>>32459904

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>>32459904
I'll take it off your hands friendo :^

>tfw old fudd asks me how in the world it's possible to magdump steel at 100 yards with a ayykay

>>32459785
>>32459896
"The Person registers the assault weapon by January 1, 2018, in accordance with subdivision (b) of section 30900."

You got till 2018 to register them....

>>32459939
Please link where you are getting this information.

whats a fair price for a used in VG shape (10) 6x5 bayonet? I've already got one and bought a Bulgy 74 kit that came with another and I don't need two

I see them sell quickly on the files for $35 but I also see them sell on eBay quickly too for like $70

>>32459882
What?

>>32459966
Ill give you 45$ for it

Anybody want to buy a Blonde bulgy 74 stock?

>>32459939
No, you've got til 2017. Where have you been? This has been the talk of the town for a while now.

>>32459974
>45 for a ((10))

>>32459968
You started on the lowest rung of the ak ladder, and now that time has passed you are still on the lowest rung, but you have found a decent shirt to wear while you're down there

>>32459984
>>32459957
https://oag.ca.gov/firearms/bullet-button

How about you two fucking idiots learn to google before spouting retarded shit?

>>32459864
There are so many good unironically drake songs and you quote this

>>32459996
>Effective January 1, 2017, "Bullet Button" firearms will be considered assault weapons.

>>32459996
>>32460016
Literally the first line of the link you posted. Guns aren't your biggest problem, I think you need glasses.

>>32458815
That's really sexy imo

>>32459991
Why so rude? Having AK is better than no AK right? An FEG AK is better than I.O or RAS garbage, probably as good as a yugo. The finish on these are better than the WASR's and the rivets are very nice.

>>32460016
>>32460024
Please continue down the page before jumping to retarded conclusions....

The law will exempt from punishment a person who possessed a bullet button assault weapon prior to January 1, 2017, if specified requirements are met:

>Prior to January 1, 2017, the person would have been eligible to register the assault weapon pursuant to subdivision (b) of section 30900.
>The person lawfully possessed that assault weapon prior to January 1, 2017.
>The Person registers the assault weapon by January 1, 2018, in accordance with subdivision (b) of section 30900

>>32460015
Sorry. What would be one of his better tracks? I quite like "We'll be fine".

>>32460015
>Good Drake songs
They don't exist.

How many times has he reused the line about snow tires or even just buying tires?

>>32459705
Is it just me, or does that polymer folder have more of a droop to it than a standard 5.5mm? That's more like an SLR/4.5mm angle from that pic alone.

Do we know if any AKS-74s (as opposed to plan AK-74s) have been retrofitted to the AK-74M standard? If so, do the replace the entire rear trunnion or could they perhaps be modifying their polymer folders to fit a 4.5mm trunnion?

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>>32459991
Where is your AK anon?

>>32460031
While I admit I was wrong, I don't like my odds in explaining to the police/DOJ that my rifle is legal only on a technicality. But hey, more power to you. Also, I get this is 4chan and all, but being pissy isn't a great way to sway people.

Grip wraps + fixed stock > bullet button IMO
I took the bullet button of the now featureless AR I'm building and oh my god is it so much better.

>>32460064
They are probably either replacing the trunnion or sleeving the pin.

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>>32460030
I just like messing with you

You have any other plans to move up from the AMD soon?

>>32460065
It's been all over Florida today

Still no new pics tho

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>>32460086
It would be cool as hell to confirm they are doing this, as I shimmed a 5.5mm folder to fit my SGL-21 that a previous owner installed a 4.5mm trunnion on.

>>32460094
I'm thinking about a Galil build or clone as my next AK. Not sure yet. Gonna be putting a bulgy grip on my AMD as soon as the grip screw shows up.

>>32460044
We'll be fine is good until birdman fucking shits on it

1/3 of the songs on views are good
1/2 of the songs on nothing was the same are good
Depends on what kind of drake you like, if you like we'll be fine then you'll like songs like underground kings. I tend to listen to stuff like marvins room or connect

>>32460048
snow tires is a reference to toronto his life
not nearly as annoying as listening to big Sean talk about how hard he works

>>32460121
I have the CD album that had We'll be fine on it, and I usually just listen to those since the CD was free. I like his darker more mellow songs if that makes sense.

At. Long. Last. Is a good album if you like out of the box rap

>>32460111
Good luck, kits are cheap but receivers basically don't exist. For the cost you're better off buying one that's already built

>>32460101
>3
>FUCKING
>SLOTS

That's a hella nice rifle my dude

>>32459756

Any other recommendations on where to pick up a WASR?

>>32460144
Armslist

Selling a PSAK47 in GA if anyones interested.

>>32460147

No I mean not used.

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>>32460142
Thanks fella. Have a christmas RPK.

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>>32460142
Do you have any experience with Golanis?

>>32460161
I honestly have never seen a WASR in a gun shop, so I couldn't tell you. I wouldn't buy a new one or else you're gonna end up paying like $700 after taxes and that's not far from arsenal territory

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>>32460161
>he doesn't wanna buy used

Why

>>32460164
Damn dude, you've just got it all huh

>>32460166
Nope, and the general consensus is don't do it

>>32460064
There's actually a picture floating around of a 74M with an original 45 degree gas block.

I'm almost positive Chimps was the one that posted it in /akg/

Flandre actually has his own theory on why we're seeing this https://www.reddit.com/r/ak47/comments/3k0pbo/remember_those_fake_ak74m_rifles_issued_to_the/

>inb4leddit
I only stumbled upon this because I was searching for more info about those "AK74M" rifles used in Crimea and noticed that Flandre had written about it.

Not that I necessarily believe it, as not issuing ammo would serve the same purpose and be much more simple logistically, but it makes for an interesting read.

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>>32460176
I heard the later ones were alot better.