~HELP ANON UNFUCK A SHOTGUN~

Xmas eve bumparino

>>32429244
How the fuck..

I assume you've tried it by hand?

>>32429244
How the fuck...
You may have to cold chisel that out of there

maybe some pb blaster and a wood dowel and a hammer to try to knock it out from behind?

>>32429244
ive owned a couple shotguns, but not a mossman, so when i say this im kinda blind leading the blind, but you might try getting a punch and a soft mallet and tapping it out from the inside.

if it screws in or locks by some other means, explain how and maybe we could help.

>more pictures and explanation of how tube sits into receiver would be good.

>>32429244
penetrating oil and then an expanding mandrel perhaps?

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>>32429244
It's reasons like this that I'm an 870 guy. I mean, I'm sure you can all dump pictures of broken 870's. However, in 20 years of shooting I've never seen an 870 break, but seen several 500's break parts.

>>32429244
PB blast the threads, pound a tight fighting dowel into it and use that to turn it out. If you're super brave you could JB weld said dowel into the broken stub.

>>32429417
>I've never seen an 870 break, but seen several 500's break parts
I agree with this. I'll even take it so far as to say that I've witnessed 870s doing damage to other guns.

>>32429244
Should've gotten an 870.

>>32429450
>>32429437
>>32429417
but then there's the whole
>Remington
problem.

>>32429435
oh, i thought it was smooth, i didnt know it was threaded in.
its try what this anon said first.

>>32429457
Everyone is overblowing Remington's issues.

>>32429464
In terms of the 870 line, that is.

>>32429457
Would you expound on that >Remington
problem? 20 years and more than a few 870's, 11-87's and 700's have yielded no real issues with Remington for me.

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>>32429244

>Crack torch to heat the inside of the tube, spray some penetrating oil on the edge so it's drawn in by the heat.

>sit over night to cool

>carefully crack torch the outside to heat, use a small chisel to get it started.

or you can dremel it and take a high chance of fucking the threads

Use a punch tool to put a divot/crease into the top of the mag tube left inside. Then use needle nose pliers to rotate it out and unscrew it. Be careful your punch does not damage the receiver and those threads there. Just down where the thread breaks would be a good place to get the tip of the punch between the mag tube and the receiver.

>>32429464
>Remington-made Marlins are a fucking travesty
>Remington 700s that fire without actually pulling the trigger, which were the subject of a class-action lawsuit that Remington lost
>New 870s have the fit and finish of a Taurus gun unless you shell out for a Wingmaster or Police Magnum
>The R51 launch and relaunch were a failure for the ages, because a company was unable to reproduce one of their old designs that worked without issue 100 years ago

I will admit that I haven't heard anything bad about their 1911s or their Rohrbaughs.

>>32429481
freedom group shit. as a cost cutting measure, quality has gone down in new production stuff.

>>32429244
Shit man, I'd seriously take that to a gun smith just to avoid fucking the threading up.

>>32429498
>>32429500

Nice talking head issues, I bet your friend heard that from a friend heard that from a friend.

>>32429495
>>32429495

O yea light lubricating oil into the threads as well.

My captcha was a road sign I know!

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>>32429500
Such is life in a modern capitalist society.

>>32429498
>New 870s have the fit and finish of a Taurus gun unless you shell out for a Wingmaster or Police Magnum

Why does everyone go buying an Express and except to get Wingmaster quality? If you want a Wingmaster then get a fucking Wingamster.

>>32429505
>talking head issue
>the oldest gun company in America has trouble making a gun without problems

Yeah, fuck off shill.

>>32429528
Ok, show me these supposed issue the 870 Express is having then. If not, then your claims are baseless.

>>32429464
>>32429481
My Remington 700 ADL has an imperfect receiver, warped stock, and a dinged crown.

Shipped that way too.

They say old remington was good, but I bought that rifle in 2006.

>>32429570
>imperfect receiver

What do you mean?

>>32429244
If you have a lathe you could try to drill it out.

Or if you fuck the threads up, send it to a machinist and have them bore out the old threads and press a threaded sleeve into it.

>>32429579
normal action of the bolt handle is causing wear points where the bolt handle and receiver contact.

looks nice and dinged up, like amateur work.

>>32429592
basically the problem on a lot of American made AKs where the parts don't mate together properly and you end up with all kinds of contact points that shouldn't be there.

>>32429244
If yer a home-gamer this might set ya in the right direction, right from skookum choocher himself.
If it doesn't help, at least it'll make ya more of a man. Keep your dick in a vice.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jnF9_LotHCU

>>32429520
An Express is what it is; the problem is that a Tactical is an Express, a Magnum is an Express, and a Marine Magnum is also an Express. Every 870 that is not a Wingmaster or Police Magnum is built and assembled with the same tooling/procedures as an Express, and their prices do not reflect this fact.

The really sad and hilarious thing, though, is that Norinco copies of the 870 made by Chinese slave laborers are actually much superior to the majority of new 870s with respect to both fit and function despite being at the same price point as an Express.

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>>32429364
Yes, by hand which I've done no problem on my new Maverick 88 before. The gun I need help with I got for a song because it was a crusty fudd's beater gun. This all started because I wanted to strip the babypuke green rattlecan paint off of the receiver.
>>32429405
Threaded in, righty tighty, lefty loosey
>>32429417
>>32429437
>>32429450
The kind of abuse this thing has seen would've had a similar effect on any 870 pre or post freedom group.

I'm gonna try PB blaster, >>32429495, and then >>32429501

>>32429657
pb blaster the shit out of it, and if your punch doesn't work try jamming a dowel in there and turning it.

>>32429561
http://www.rem870.com/2016/06/07/correcting-4-common-remington-870-problems/

If you think these are somehow made up or "overblown," just do a google search. You will find that it is extremely common for new owners of a non-premium 870 to have to polish the internals of their gun for it to work correctly. You will additionally find that the paint finish--yes, it's paint and not parkerization or anything that actually protects the metal--used on the Express series is absolute garbage that results in guns that frequently come covered in rust.

>inb4 "but I never had any of these problems!"

Congratulations. You got lucky.

>>32429244

Make a cut with a cut down hacksaw blade down the length of the tube. Go slowly and keep the cut free of filings so you can watch for when you begin to see threads.
Then, take a brass drift and collapse the tube inwards til it can be unscrewed, or grabbed with a pair of pliers and unscrewed/collapsed and removed.

Gentle heat and kroil will help.

>>32429681
Aye aye capitan

Also, to the remfags, allow me to clarify the situation. The mag tube was hanging on by a thread due to neglect/abuse by a previous owner(s) over 40ish years, not a perfectly fine mag tube deciding one day it was gonna rip completely off. I just hadn't noticed the issue when buying it, and in my search for help I can find ZERO other instances of this happening. Not shitting on Remington, I'm just saying pls no shart on Mossberg over end-user neglect

>>32429693
That shit isn't paint its rust attractant.

mine had a perfect rust thumb print on it after 1 fucking day

>>32429726
This sounds promising too. Theoretically if I were to catch the threads without noticing for several draws, would the receiver be compromised too much?

>>32429755

Not in the least. At worst you would end up with a small channel in the peaks of the threads, working a bit like a thread chaser for the new tube.

The mag tube boss is a very lightly stressed area anyhow.
Most of the real force from cycling the action is carried by the barrel via the mag support at the front, and by the action rods bearing in the receiver. .

>>32429244
>>32429490
>Crack torch to heat the inside of the tube, spray some penetrating oil on the edge so it's drawn in by the heat.

>sit over night to cool

>carefully crack torch the outside to heat, use a small chisel to get it started.

Listen to this guy
if that doesn't work then listen to this guy
>>32429726

Why? It's how I remove stuck stems from bicycle frames, which is a very similar process, with a 100% success rate and no damage to the steerer tube

>>32429825

Because I've used the "slit and collapse" many many times on stuck shotgun choke tubes, with zero damage to the barrel threads.

You just, as I mentioned, go slowly and carefully.

>>32429601
Since when are the Trailer Park Boys doing machine shop videos?

>>32429923
Pretty sure AvE is in BC not Nova Scotia. Either way, this guy is more knowledgeable than like 99% of the people on this site. You can learn a lot from his stuff.

>>32429923
ENGELAND

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>>32429244
>Any ideas on removing the remaining tube?

Stick an adjustable / expansion ream into the front and crank the expansion screw as much as possible and use it to unscrew the busted mag tube section.

>>32429417
OP bought gun used.
For all we know, previous owner took a saw to it then superglued it back together.

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>>32429601
There is some good info in this video but, it shows how to extract broken bolts on stuff you don't care about.

>>32430345
How many shekels is this device? Is this some sort of specialized milling/lathe bit?

>>32430372
I wish I knew the fudd Cabelas bought it from just to ask how he managed to fug a shotgun this badly

>>32430385
True, but at the same time its a beat-to-shit pump-action 12 gauge. If you really screw the pooche, you can just buy a new, non-broken one for a few hundred bucks. Either way, the obvious solution is to take a brass drift (a flat head screw driver will suffice), catch a lip on the broken tube (Or make on if you have to), and tap it out in a counter clockwise direction. Then if you have the right tap (which I doubt) you could clean up the threads (optional). A la 11:15 of AvE video.

>>32430526
I bought it for the price of the slug barrel that came on it. The shotgun, if temporarily a lemon, was more of a bonus than anything

>>32430441
>How many shekels is this device? Is this some sort of specialized milling/lathe bit?
expanding mandrel and a set is anywhere from $20 - $50

>>32430593
Then you have nothing to lose. Have at're boy.

>>32429464
>>32429475
Gunstore fag here, we have to send back express models frequently for being rusty out of the box. Wingmasters are g2g.

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Which shotgun did the United States Armed Forces choose for their official shotgun of choice? They chose the Mossberg 500 long ago, because Model 500 is the only shotgun to pass the U.S. Army's Mil-Spec 3443E test, "a brutal and unforgiving torture test with 3,000 rounds of full power 12 gauge buckshot".

Fuck your weak 870 piece of pot-metal shit.

heat it before attempting to unscrew it
some of those are loctited in and heat will loosen it
dont use a chisel or anything like that because the aluminum receiver is much weaker than a steel tube. you have a very high chance to fuck up the threads and ruin it.

>>32429417
Yeah.....not so fast. You know what the Remington version of this failure is? The induction-braze joint that holds the mag tub in lets go.

Send it back to Mossberg for service- they'll understand.