Why does /k/ hate the glorious grease blaster Beretta 92?

>>32421234
I wish mine bad the finger grooves but I know it doesn't really matter.

>>32421234
aluminum frame
slide mounted decocking safety
fat ass grips

>>32421251
Light

I don't really get the problem with this, especially since it's a DA

Fits my hands nice. What are you, a fucking manlet?

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but I don't

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>>32421261
same weight, only better balanced
short crisp trigger with intuitive and accessible safety
slim and compact grips

>>32421306
Someone needs to make a BHP with a rail and that doesn't cost $1000.

That's like saying you prefer white bread with nothing on it, vs any number of amazing sandwiches.

Because it's feminine as fuck

>>32421306
BHP is uglier than even a Glock. Beretta is aesthetic as fuck.

>>32421323
but this white bread looks infinitely better than 90% of other metal framed handguns and 100% of polymer handguns

>>32421234
It was my favorite handgun growing up. I'm sure Die Hard and Lethal Weapon played a role in that.

When it came time to buy my first handgun I had the Beretta 92, Walther P99 (at the time, 1st Gen) and Glock 19 (at the time, Gen 3) up on the counter.

The Beretta looked like a monster compared to the other two. Because I have small hands, I couldn't reach any of the controls comfortably like I could with the Walther and Glock.

Even though I loved the way it looked, it just wasnt a good fit for me. I ended up going with the Walther P99 over he Glock because it felt a lot better in my hands.

I still think the 92 Inox Brigadier and especially the new 92 a3 are sexy as hell, though...

>>32421234
I can get over the safety being mounted to the frame (though it's still dumb), but why in the fuck does it have to be upside down? It's like some gun companies go out of their way to be retarded.

>>32421359
but anon they make a 92compact

>>32421338
>BHP
>ugly

sometimes I forget how much /k/ is retard-land

>>32421234
Only autists don't like it because
>muh Manlet hands can't fit around it
>muh Glock is better
>lol9mm (may or may not be ".45 stronk" fags)
>muh safety placement (again the manlets, who can't reach it with their thumbs like us titans can)
>muh aluminum frame (which I dont see why they argue given all the polymer on the market, besides their are steel frames available.)

>>32421388
This.
BHP and Berettas are aesthetic as fuck.
Love them even more because of Resident Evil and how much that franchise has been in my life.

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>>32421338
>BHP is uglier than even a Glock
take that back, niggerfaggot

never said berettas aren't pretty, but they're bricks.
big pretty aluminum bricks with a mediocre trigger and a safety on the top.

what is your actual problem? start a thread asking why we don't like a gun and get offended when you get actual answers

>>32421364
its a walther p38 copy, safety included

>>32421412
>Mediocre trigger
Explain. Maybe I've only fired good berettas. What makes the trigger shit?

>>32421338
1/10 bait, please leave, not even /k/ would bite at that.

>>32421412
Op loves the hi power

>>32421417
Why the fuck is Walther retarded?

>>32421412
I didn't start the thread though... Go find a safe space :^)

>>32421449
now that was the right question!
Are slide safeties easier (read: cheaper) to manufacture?

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>>32421338

>>32421433
the fact that double action is mandatory.
a long heavy twelve pound trigger is always going to suck.
a CZ or HK are double action but they can still be carried cocked and locked so you never have to use it.

>>32421468
It's probably just the design they decided to go with, I don't think it's cheaper. They got lazy I guess, like they just cobbled it together without realizing how difficult it would be to actually rack and take the safety off in a hurry.

It's really bad when Taurus makes a better Beretta than Beretta (pt92)

>>32421338

A true /k/ommando would find beauty in all of God's guns, even Glocks.

>>32421449
>Durr why doesn't a pistol from 110 years ago have perfect ergonomic design??

>>32421517
>1938
>110 years ago

>>32421478

What are you talking about? Beretta 92's are also SA/DA.

>>32421478
>double-action is a problem
>doesn't know that different trigger weights exist
>>also thinks that 12-lb is heavy
>thinks you can't carry a Beretta cocked and locked without a problem

How many dildoes can you fit in your ass?

>>32421587
reread >>32421478

>>32421517
Why the fuck are you retarded?

Retarded enough to buy a 110 year old hunk o shit?

>>32421620
>thinks you can carry a Beretta cocked and locked without a problem
you know how I know you're full of bullshit?

>>32421306
Alex what is hammer bite

>>32421634
Please enlighten us on why you think the gun is shit and what guns are good examples

>>32421504
Is the PT92 good? I kinda like the idea of a Beretta 92 with a frame safety

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>>32421659
fat people problems for 500

>>32421642
>He's this unconfident in his handling of firearms

>>32421691
cocked and locked means hammer back, safety on

show me how you do that with a Beretta

>>32421659
trim the hammer, problem solved.

>>32421671
im fat and i never had a problem with hammer bite ever.

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>>32421234
It's beautiful but the brunite finish is fucking shit. I would kill for a 92 with a melonite finish.

>>32421247
Do you know English?

>>32421234

Because it replaced the 1911. That's it. That's the entire reason that anyone hates it at all. The USA wanted to get with NATO spec so it needed a 9mm. The Beretta was chosen. So everyone fudded their pants and tossed their remedies and went screeching into the streets.

>9mm can't kill gooks!
>Lol Italian engineering
>7+1 of God's chosen round is better than 15+1 of some faggot European round!!
>John Moses Browning should be on Mount Rushmore and we are going to desecrate him like THIS??!??

And on and on. The "AK is reliable and the AR-15 is a jam o matic" still loves on from fucking Vietnam. The Beretta is actually a very nice shooting gun and the military could have done much worse.

>>32421718
>Because it replaced the 1911. That's it. That's the entire reason that anyone hates it at all.
you're the only one to bring that up. everyone else is arguing ergonomics.

>>32421706

Not him, but frankly that's really just preference. Nowadays it's suggested to not even have the safety on at all for most pistols as long as you have a proper holster.

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>>32421752
>frankly that's really just preference
you
are
fucking
retarded

>>32421718
>.45 and 9mm have similar wound channels
>Fudds will argue this
It's cringeworthy when I hear people who don't know this talk about how ".45 is the last round you'll ever need" or something yet have shotguns loaded with buckshot or slugs for HD "just in case".
As if even they don't believe in the stuff they say.

>>32421234
Military welfare queens that hate them because of how poorly maintained they have been over their service life.

Also, the PX4 is the better pistol.

>>32421338
i agree beretta is more aesthetically pleasing, but BHP is not ugly. fucks the matter with you?

>>32421715
I'm on a phone... Sorry.

>>32421735

Nobody outside of /k/ really argues against the 92's. The funny thing is most guys I know from the Vietnam era with the "AR jam-o-matic" mindset like the 92 over the 1911.

>>32421752
dude it's literally impossible. the safety is also a decocking lever.

>>32421783
can attest.

I bought a 92FS brand new, and it's fucking smooth as hell

And when I qual fire on the M9 at work, I want to shoot myself with it.

>>32421828

I own one. I know that. I'm saying its not a big deal.

>>32421828
Couldn't you chamber a round and thumb down the hammer?
Doesn't seem too safe but hey, if it works.

>>32421845
>>32421620 implies they do not

>I'm saying its not a big deal.
not to you, but it's still a legitimate hate many people have for the pistol, which is the topic of this thread.

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>>32421885
>Couldn't you chamber a round and thumb down the hammer?
then the safety would be off and the hammer down, which is the opposite of cocked and locked

am I talking to a fucking first grader or something?

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>>32421885

Not with the safety on. It'll just snap back to position. That's why I have to keep holding it down just to take this picture.

>>32421915
Wasn't talking on the subject of the gun being cocked and locked, in asking if it is a viable thing to do.
Not even the same anon, don't be a cunt, you cunt.

>>32421934
So worst case scenario if you carried this handgun, you'd have to rack the slide to chamber a round and pull back the hammer or carry it with a round in the chamber and hammer rearwards

>>32421961
I fucked up, meant that racking the slide would chamber a round and cock the hammer.

>>32421943
>Wasn't talking on the subject of the gun being cocked and locked
that post was in reply to the anon who is talking on the subject of the bun being cocked and locked >>32421828
is this your first time on 4chan or something?

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>>32421504
The original Beretta 92 was slide-mounted safety.
The Tauruses are made in a really old Beretta plant down in Brazil.
They wen't to the slide-mounted safety because some police agencies wanted a decocker, that was the Beretta 92S.
They still occasionally make special edition 92's with the frame safety.

>>32422183
Errr, original 92 was *frame* safety, hurray typos.

>>32421234
No one reasonable hates it. It is a perfectly competant handgun.

>>32421322
Its called buying used or buying surplus you mong.
>>32421338
Objectively better looking than a 1911. I say objectively because in John Brownings own words its a 1911 but fixed.

>>32421234

There's absolutely nothing wrong with it. I bought a 92S for $270 recently, and it was in flawless condition save for some holster wear on the slide (the bluing was worn down on the edges a bit). Other than that, the barrel was basically brand new, and it shoots great. I'm tempted to add some dots to the sights via paint and possibly light drilling, but it's fine otherwise.

>>32421659
>>32421671

The Hi Power would look better with a nice dovetail, IMO. I wish I could get something midway between the CZ 75 and the Hi Power, thin like the Hi Power, but with the ultra comfy ergos of the CZ and a nice big thumbrest safety like the 1911.

Oh well, maybe someday I'll strike it rich and make the perfect fudd all steel handgun.

>>32421251
>92
>Fat ass grips
How fucking small are your munchkin hands dude?

>>32421478
The most common variants are all SA/DA. 92f, 92fs, etc

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>>32421251
>s-slide mounted safety
Only retards complain about this, you can seriously use the safety as a grip when racking the slide and you won't activate it by mistake.

>>32421306
Yeah, but capacity.
A Hi-Power has 15rd magazines at best, a Beretta has 18rd magazines.
Also no double-action.

>>32421478
Double-action eliminates the need for cocked and locked, not that you can't carry it with a cocked hammer without issue.

Lol @ triggered cucks screaming

>Muh cocked and locked

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>that slide mounted safety would get you killed in a gunfight
>I don't like the slide mounted safety
>proceeds to explain how he has never shot an m9 let alone manipulated the safety/decocker on it

That's why.

>>32421234
I don't hate it and I WANT ONE.

HOW DO I GET AN M9??

I was at a lgs, and all the berretas were 92FS, what is this "S?" Also they all cost $650 or more.

>>32421306
glorious hi power master race

>>32424455
bookmark slickguns. You can get them new for ~$500+

Hell, a few days ago, sportsmanoutdoors was selling police trade ins for $420.

>>32421718
JMB should be on Rushmore, but not for the 1911. He had hundreds of other outstanding designs

>>32421885
>thumbing hammer down
Kill yourself

>>32424503
Watched Hollywood asshole Bruce Willis do this in Die Hard yesterday, kek'd so fucking hard.

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>>32421885
>Couldn't you chamber a round and thumb down the hammer?

Okay. Do this. Fuck off and go learn how a DA/SA gun works. Okay? Then, come back here without posting anything and then fuck off some more.

I'll link you the video explaining how this basic shit works so you'll fuck off faster.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gao8iWTqiWI

>>32424455
M9 is the military designation for a Beretta 92FS
Just like how M16 is the military designation for for a select-fire AR15 (to their specs)

>>32424466
Thanks anon. Now I have to decide which one to get, should definitely get the FS, but the M9A3 looks almost as good as it is expensive.

>>32421706
Missouri stronk

>>32424514
>>32424503
I fail to see the problem with thumbing down the hammer.

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>>32424514
>Hollywood asshole Bruce Willis
Isn't he pro-gun and all?

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>>32424532
>but the M9A3 looks almost as good as it is expensive.

The key features I like on the M9A3 are the vertec grips which are basically slimmed down grips and the G decock only lever.

Really do not care about the shitty three dot tritiums, threaded barrel or special finish they put on the gun and its magazines.

A cheaper alternative to getting the "right" M9 is getting the PX4.

>>32424547
>only available in meme brown
>no brig slide
The A3 isn't as appealing to me as it could have been.

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>>32424549
It really isn't. I hate how Beretta cannot frequently produce a good M9 in terms of features. Which is why the only Beretta I'm willing to buy is the new PX4 Compact Carry.

>>32424536
Every iteration of the gun since 1978 has a built in decocker.

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>>32424553
Kys

>>32424553
I only want a M9 for nostalgia anyway, so I guess the brown one is getting dropped off at the pool.

>>32424549
Tell me about brig slides.

>>32424563
I know this is news to you, but some people actually shoot their guns instead of looking at them and oogling them.

>>32424216
read again, my problem with SA/DA triggers is when you HAVE to have the DA trigger for at least the first shot.
CZ and HK safeties don't automatically decock the gun, so they can be carried condition one, i.e. cocked and locked, i.e. hammer back safety on, i.e. IMPOSSIBLE WITH BERETTA

>>32424248
>not that you can't carry it with a cocked hammer without issue.
YOU CAN NOT CARRY A BERETTA WITH A COCKED HAMMER AND THE SAFETY ON
THE GOD DAMN SAFETY DECOCKS THE GOD DAMN HAMMER AS SOON AS YOU ENGAGE IT
WHY DO PEOPLE KEEP IMPLYING OTHERWISE?

>>32424589
>YOU CAN NOT CARRY A BERETTA WITH A COCKED HAMMER AND THE SAFETY ON
I never said otherwise.
I merely said you could carry it with a cocked hammer.

>>32424653
It'd be a pretty fucking dumb thing to do.

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>>32424554
Right, but why can't I thumb the hammer down just the same?

>>32424567
Brigadier slides have a heavier profile and much more strength where the locking block engages, meaning it's much more sturdy and can safely handle much stronger loads, if you mean to shoot a lot of +P ammo, or if you want to make a 9mm Bravo build, a Brigadier slide is a must.

>>32424662
Yeah, so carry it with the hammer down, you have a double-action trigger, don't you?

>>32424666
I'm not the idiot arguing that point. I carry condition 3.

>>32424664
If you want to be pedantic, you could, and but there's no benefit at all.

>>32424653
you can not safely carry it with a cocked hammer
that is a legitimate flaw in the design compared to CZ and HK pistols

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>enter thread
>drops mic

>>32424918
Yeah that's cool. I have no problems with that.
too bad about it being a goddamn unicorn.

>>32424755
So don't carry it with a cocked hammer? Again, you have a DA trigger, don't you?

>>32421715
>B & H right next to each other on the qwerty keyboard
>DO YOU KNOW ENGLISH HURR DURR
Anon wasn't even making an argument for you to ineffectually comment on the grammar and then act superior. Are you that starved for either attention or validation that you're this desperate?

>>32424941
It wasn't supposed to be a serious answer. But why would anyone want to carry a Beretta cocked and locked so bad? Like shit, mastering the DA trigger pull isn't that difficult and you can put a $7 D spring in it to make it a bit more manageable if you really wanted to.

The idea that DA/SA shooting being hard is one of my biggest pet peeves.

>>32421234
I don't, I love mine. I love it so much I was going to pick up one of those surplus 92s's so I wouldn't wear out my new one, but then I realized I'd rather just buy more ammo and practice with the one I have.

>>32424974
It's not like flicking off a safety is hard either, at least on guns that have them on the frame where God intended.

>>32425037
>muh old ways
>muh ninetenelebun

>>32424963
That's my point, the DA trigger sucks.
that's a reason people hate the beretta, which is the topic of this thread.

>>32421251
>aluminum frame
nothing wrong with that.
>slide mounted decocking safety
only legitimate criticism.
>fat ass grips
t. babyhands

>>32423086
I think FN makes new hipowers

>>32424455
M9s are ass you want the 92s. Stop being poor.

>>32424569
I shoot my guns and still care that they look good and spend time oggling them. Why do you feel the two are mutually exclusive?

>>32425051
Nothing wrong with the DA trigger, get a spring kit if it bothers you.

>>32425077
>only legitimate criticism.
It really isn't, there's nothing wrong with slide safeties.

>>32424547
The best part of the M9A3 is they sell its 92G decocker as a conversion kit.

>>32425051
Buy a $6 hammer spring if you think the DA is so awful.

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>>32421234
>Why does /k/ hate the glorious grease blaster Beretta 92?
>get told k does not
>repost thread
>get told k does not
>repost thread

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>>32424918

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>>32421234

I prefer her (slightly) THICCer sister. Will definitely grab some version of a 9mm eventually though.

>>32423086
Check out Nighthawk Custom's Hi-Power. They add a beaver tail and smooth out all the internals. Granted, it's $3k

>>32421234
>/k/ Generally can't afford anything over $300.
>/k/ uncritically accepts and parrots the opinions of REMFs
>/k/ has never owned one

Own one. Love it. Love the px4 more.

>>32421234
I don't hate them.
Im old enought to remember when the 92S came out and I thought they were ugly.
Just never got over that I guess.

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People on /k/ hate the M9 because they have little to no experience with it and just buy up what vets say when the only experience they've got is qualifying with shitty, beat up M9s that are as old as they are.

>>32427407
It's too big for CC

>>32427407
hi niichan

>>32427521
Hello~

>>32427416
Doesn't mean it's not a good full sized handgun.

>>32427676
I wish I wasn't 5'8" and could CC full-sized handguns.

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>>32421234
I don't. It'll always be my first zombie killer.

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>>32421234
>Rediculously accurate
>Great grip/feel for me (6'3")
>High magazine capacity
>Reliably shoots most if not all ammo
>Slidelock
>Did I mention accurate?

Friends have complained about failure to feed/stove piping when they shot it. I simply took the pistol and showed them how to operate it..
>limp wristed faggots

>>32427683
6'2 here. 92 owb under a button up, feels good man.

>>32425411
why should I buy parts for shit guns I'll never own?

>>32428280
The same reason you are complaining about a gun you have never touched.

>>32421234
my favorite handgun. looks great, shoots great, cant complain

>>32427697
yes

>>32428634
my grandpa owns one. it was the first handgun I ever shot, and I shot it plenty. I thought it was fine until I shot a 1911, and later a Hi Power.
single action best action
slim grips best grips
steel frame best frame
beretta a shit

>>32424455

There are trivial differences between an M9 and a 92FS. If you don't already know what's different between the two then you probably don't care. But you can get them in either configuration at most gun stores for basically the same price. At Cabela's, not exactly the cheapest place, a new M9 is $619 and a new 92FS is $649.

>>32424918
I want a Billinnium soooo baaaaad ....