Vintorez reproduction

>>32417994
Wow those people have been working on that shit for, what, 5 years now? Still not even a working prototype?

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>>32417994
Complete internals too. I might try and make blueprints for the parts too

>>32417994
Isn´t the real thing coming out soon?

>>32418086
Where did you get that?

>>32418086
The suppressor could really benefit from modern baffle design

>>32418205
It's already quiet as it is, I think the returns from designing it with a modern baffle system would probably be pretty small.

>>32418188
Its been coming out for the past 10 years.
So yea "soon"

>>32418230
http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2016/10/05/molot-vintorez/

>>32418196
Art of War 3d. Website in by a Russian dude

>>32418188
Not sure havent heard anything

>>32418196
If you buy vector, I'll trade you a steyr aug

>>32418277
Is it accurate enough to actually create a working reproduction?

>>32418402
Seems like it.

>>32418402
It says I but I have the AUG and fedorov avtomat and they look perfect. f you want to good ones then you'll need the inventor versions and they'll say "full complement of details" for internal parts

>>32418466
Link?

>>32418252
It's lookalike, and pretty shitty one.

>>32418476
http://vladrussianarms.com/htm/6-e.htm

>>32418498
Fuck off shill. The age of meme project scams is over!

>>32418529
pot, kettle, ect.

>>32418511
Says it's simplified and cannot be used for mechanical development.

>>32418565
I know but I 3d printed some Aug parts a couple of years ago and they all fit and move perfectly

>>32418024
It's been like two years tops

>>32419872
Impossible because it was going on last time I was here, 2012 or so.

>>32418252
Remove baffles. Pin and weld outside of suppressor to rifle. Import. Manufacture baffles. Profit?

>>32418402
found this on their website "This model is an accurate art work, built for DCC (Digital Content Creation) use. It is simplified and cannot be used for mechanical development."

>>32420287
You'd have to remove the suppressor body too, because it will likely dampen the report below the ATF allowed 1 or 2dB from 3 meters or whatever it is.

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OP Again, I'm trying to crack how the trigger mechanism works in this thing. Looks a lot like a vz 58. Anyone know more? I'm 3d printing some parts now to make a mockup

>>32422076
Is that Inventor? Mega the .iam.

>>32422076
>trigger
Nigger no one gives a shit, get the receiver and bolt in order.

>>32423763
what are you even trying to say?

>>32422076
>I'm trying to crack how the trigger mechanism works in this thing.

It's pretty fucking straightforward. Do you have a single measurement yet?

>>32424086
And here. we. go.

>>32424086
Have you made any progress since the last meaningful update in Nov of 2014? I get the arm thing was a major setback but it might be time to admit its dead.

>>32424103
The team hasn't spoken in over a year.

>>32417994
I'd be interested in files faggot.

>>32420313
>>32417994

How does it feel to have spent $150 on a toy, OP?

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>>32424141
it's just like lego
yaaaaaaaaaaay

>>32424109
LOL
O
L

>>32424109
How's the arm?

>>32424111
>>32422169

Nah, not going to happen. Unless you buy one too I'll trade but I spent too much to just give it away for free

>>32425875
so this is never gonna get done because you cant figure out something simple and nobody is gonna spend money to help you?

>>32417994

Source?

>>32418593

Are you retarded? Parts need to be engineered to properly work and carry loads and pressures. You can't just fucking take a 3-D sketch of a moving, critical part, and hope for the best.

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>>32424109

D E A D
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>>32425875
>spend a ridiculous amount of money on a World-of-Guns tier 3D model that is completely worthless from an engineering standpoint
>be a kike about sharing it because "I spent so much, wew!"

I don't even feel sorry for you.

>>32422076
>looks a lot like the VZ58
because its a fucking striker fired gun. If you cant figure out something simpler than a hammer fired action, what are you even doing with these CAD files?

>>32426895
sounds like all the engineering was done if they fit and "function", they just need to be made out of proper materials for the finished product.

>>32417994
Are you going to Suppress it via Form 1?

>>32427254
he needs to figure out how to build the thing first, since he cant wrap his head around how a striker fired sear and disconnector works
If he >>32422076
admits he's being a jew thats not much better than assholes on certain forums saying "will trade m14 measurements for Tavor measurements or $50" Ill post a step by step of the trigger action

>Project Yedinorog
>Donate $50 to them in the hopes they even can just finish receiver/trigger group/bcg blueprints.
>Nah, we're gonna fuck off and use your money on Steam games instead or something
>Not even have enough to 3d print a mechanically correct plastic toy as a souvineer

Th-thanks unicorn fucker. I can understand if the arm's fucked but the rest of the team suck.

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>>32425875
>Too stupid to figure out a rotary bolt semi-auto gun
>Trigger mechanism no more complicated than a Glock
>Refuses to let anyone else figure it out

>>32427254
Suppressors are illegal where I live so ill probably try and rechamber it for 7.62x39

>>32427228
I was talking about the trigger mechanism you fucking mong, not the firing mechanism.

>>32427081
Major components fit for sure, the rest can just be over engineered for strength and reliability. Sounds retarded but it can be made to work

>>32426820
I'm not saying I need help, I'm offering something if you have something to offer back.

>>32427420
Funny. I offered to help UF in person on the project. He seemed like he'd given up all hope on it. I no longer keep in touch with him.

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>>32427452
>Major components fit for sure, the rest can just be over engineered for strength and reliability.
> the rest can just be over engineered

"I know nothing whatsoever about engineering, but watch me reverse-engineer a select fire intermediate carbine from a hobby 3D model made by a Russian teenager."

>>32427452
>>32427433
>>32427383
>>32427228
>>32426820

Here's the trigger assembly in .step format. Have at er.

https://www.adrive.com/public/UkUn5n/vss%20trigger.STEP

>>32417994
I already built a functioning mosin from a kit like this

>>32427551
>i'm actually the one deficient in engineering knowledge and assume that it's either perfect or it's shit
>I hope he doesn't realize that tolerances are a thing
>I have nothing to contribute so I'd better shit on my only hope of getting this unicorn stateside

>>32427632
Nice, where did you get the model from?

>>32427420
>Donate $50 to them in the hopes they even can just finish
Who the fuck did you give money to? I specifically refused donations for the project. If you gave cash to someone for the VSS you got jewed because we had an agreement to never do that.

>>32427472
Same, but I offered at the beginning of the project but they already had enough people. Apparently not the motivated kind of people though.

>>32427644
>muh tolerances
>muh overengineering

You only continue to prove you have no relevant expertise outside of spouting /k/ memes.

I'll give you a hint: if the slavnigger you bought these files from didn't do the measurements properly (all but guaranteed in the 3D art sector), or worse, shuffled them around a bit to avoid getting raped in the ass by the FSB, (which is even more likely), you're going to get widely varying positive and negative tolerances across every part's dimensions, and when you put it all together the tolerances will stack up and the best case scenario is it just won't work.
"Overengineering" them won't fucking help at all, because that will just amplify every error and fuck up the balance of the forces and recoiling masses.

>>32427452
I'll just respond to all of those points

are you in a shitty US state, or a really weird country? either way, chamber it for 300blk, more load variety, and similar pressures to work with the barrel, no matter how you decide to make the barrel. protip, get rid of the ports, and its 8inches of exactly what the 300blk was made for and the gas piston/port doesnt have to be moved for dwell time. supression wont be necessary for function at this point

trigger mech interacts with the firing mech, and is thus a part of it, what are you on about? it drops the sear, what specifically can you not figure out? the full auto mech?

>the rest can be over engineers for strength and reliabliity
I'm 98% thats how the VSS was designed in the first place. but also>>32427644


offering what? everyone has offered to help because we all want to see this damn thing happen, and it seems that you dont know what youre doing

>>32427865
>>32427829

I like the .300 Blk idea better actually, dimensions are slightly shorter than 9x39 so it'll be easy. I was having trouble figuring out the full auto mechanism because I had to suppress (hide) the receiver so I couldn't tell what was causing the auto sear to trip because everything was just floating there. The trigger mechanism is the only challenge at machining properly right now so worst case I'll just restart, using the parts provided as a reference and make it work over the course of a few hours. I'm willing to give the full model to people, along with other complete ones if people have similar stuff to trade back. So many times I've posted links and got nothing of value in return so it's just incentive

>>32427930
I have sorta contact with someone that may or may not have a full CNC shop. If we work something out, this might have serious potential.
hit me up on my k-email so we can talk more
[email protected]

>>32422076
Looks like a striker of sorts.

>>32427632

You made your own barrel?

>>32428085
You ain't gonna do shit

>>32428568
I lied, I didn't think anyone would investigate

>>32428604
More help than you are

It's so christmasy in here.
Just like being with family!

Wouldn't it be easier to purchase a production licence from tula?

>>32428995
probably not, considering its still a service weapon. might be the same reason there isn't an SLR-104CR since it would be an AK105 clone, which is basically Russia's M4. Zasta probably knows more about it than me, and might correct me.

but I seriously cant nobody has made a clone yet. it's not that fucking hard. if you chopped down a VZ58/2008, and had it re-barreled for 300blk, and shortened the gas system appropriately. youre 75% of the way there. port the barrel, and replace the handguard with something that can lock a tube to it and there it fukcing is. why is everyone that has tried so far, so goddamn incompetent

>>32428995
no, that involves knowing russian, complying with ITAR, a lot of money, and getting a lot of machinery to do it just like they would

>>32417994
I'm gonna try 3d printing parts to see how they fit

>>32418227
It is actually not that quiet. I would estimate it being in the +135dB range when firing subsonics. I have not measured it, so I'm going by ear. That's the same you get from an AR with supersonics with a good can.

With a modern baffle stack you could probably knock it down to 125 even.

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>>32429554
Receivers

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>>32430720

>>32430975
wouldnt the atf be better?

>>32430975
That fucking filename. Nothing illegal about 3d printing 80%

>>32430720
do you think you could line up an AK rail instead of the original? I think the original is SVD pattern, and I just checked RS Regulate and they dont make an SVD compatible optics mount. having AK optics compatibilityl would be a huge plus

>>32431001
I think so but I just printed the shell to save on material so there are no rails inside. I don't have AK bolt dimensions though

>>32431001
>>32431021

Sorry, do you mean to make the receiver hold and AK bolt or optics?

2016 is going down in history as a great year.

The establishment, both IRL and on /k/ has been shown time and time again to have nothing of substance and has been shown to be completely and utterly incompetent.

/k/ will not stand for blatant cash grab never-ending meme projects any more!

Fuck Clinton
Fuck Soros
Fuck Niglet Scammerprises
Fuck Project YIDniggerog
Long live Trump, the Republic, and the West!

>>32430996
>>32430980
It's unicornfucker salty that anons can do what he has tried and failed to do under budget, ahead of schedule, and without blatant attentionwhoring.

We saw this with Nugget Enterprises too. Sad!

>>32431033
i'm not asking for money you fuckfence, if you want to see /k/ get better, contribute and stop bitching like a fucking 10 year old

>>32431045
Bullshit. You had a donation button for your scam. And you forgot your name there.

And /k/ is becoming better, by rejecting your kind of filth wholesale. Isn't it telling how literally nobody associated with scam projects from that shameful nugget enterprises era can post on /k/ now? /k/ has woken up and will not be taken advantage of any more.

2017 will be a glorious year. We will finally see the destruction of every Soros-backed meme scam. They should be happy that we are extracting their last remaining value: the inevitable torrent of drama, butthurt and lulz coming from their collapse will be enough to sustain /k/ for years to come. Hold fast boys, the future is bright!

>>32431064
Holy shit you're more autistic than ET. I'm trying to tell you: This is what I'm working on, check it out

>>32431116
Put your trip back on if you're going to shill. That makes it just a bit more palatable.

>>32429711
I meant quiet enough. The redesign wouldn't be worth the effort. I think 130dB is high, but our ears aren't meant to measure SPL.

>>32431030
I meant the side rail for optics
an AK bolt wouldnt work at all unless you milled out the inside of the receiver to AK spec for the FCG and used like a draco bolt carrier/gas piston..... hmmm
could mill it out to vz58 spec and use *that* piston/carrier and FCG and striker

>>32431064
dude. OP and me have been talking and he has not once asked me for money. he is asking for more plans and measurements of other guns to be posted.
I'll admit, I was kinda pissed that he was being a jew about not sharing his newly purchased plans, but TWO THINGS
1: purchase agreements are copyrighted 9 times out of ten
2: nowhere in thread he said wanted money in exchange for posting plans, we all just kinda assumed that.
>rejecting your kind of filth wholesale
what filth, the kind looking for help in making something THE ENTIRETY OF /k/ WANTS?
whats your trip? because fuck you if you ever want to buy a kommando made VSS

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Is it time?

>>32431176
This, I just want to make one working prototype to bring back and see how successful/popular it is. sorry for not sharing. I'll put it in one of my big CAD dump threads some day

>>32431198
Are those airshit? If not, how did you come across them? Does .300 Blk fit in there snugly?

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>>32431223
not airshit, I don't have any .300 blk

>>32431263
How did you even get those? Are you slavshit?

>>32431176
>what filth, the kind looking for help in making something THE ENTIRETY OF /k/ WANTS?
He obviously isn't looking for help because he won't give people what they need to help him. He can suck a dick.

>>32431275
Good contacts

>>32431287
That's Awesome. Are they available online in russian? I'd like to buy one

>>32431176
>THE ENTIRETY OF /k/ WANTS
lel kek
Like the rhodesian shitsmear project it was just what a very loud, autistic minority of /k/ wanted to force the rest of /k/ to pay for.

>>32431311
now and again, look around on guns.ru. random VSS parts come up for sale sometimes

>>32431263
5.56 and 300blk share headspace, try it out with some AR food
can you verify what I said up here?>>32429074


>captcha HOTEL Moscow
no fucking way

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>>32431365
whoops

>>32431350
kek, so are you just collecting the parts one by one until you can assemble a rifle?

>>32431350
>russians
How will I communicate with them?

>>32431326
you cant seriously be comparing pajamas to a fucking VSS

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>>32429074
>SLR-104CR
What? They could make this, it's just lolArsenal. They never do what you want. Don't you remember THIS?

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>>32431424
If you don't, it was this abortion.

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>>32431365
Doubt you'd be able to get plans from Tula without a ton of money.

.556 actually might feed other then the first round which will slide out.

>>32431391
Naww, I decided to only throw money at a one #rare at a time.

>>32431392
Russian?

>>32431424
There are a few sample 104CRs in the US, Robertdk sold a couple on AKfiles, don't really know why they didn't do a bigger release, but they haven't sold 107CRs in ages either.

i just want a fucking AK-107

>>32417994
>>32418086
>>32429554

Just 3D print parts and assemble them. fit them with a dremel tool and sell the prototypes on /k/ to help offset costs until you get a 3D printed dry-fireable final product, which you can then sell for NEET bux.

use those NEET bux to fund someone CNC'ing a metal version and go from there :-)

>>32431469
Maybe has something to do with that military fulfillment thing? When did these 104CR samples show up?

>>32426911
Fuck off with that niggershit anon

>>32431489
It was when the 104URs came out, which was like a couple years ago or so

>>32431576
Odd I didn't hear anything about it, then.

I wonder if they'll release it as a GAME CHANGER.

>>32431593
It didn't really make any waves, just two or three popped up for sale on the marketplace for some high price, the serial numbers were like 002 and 003, they sold and that was that. Kinda pointless when you can just put a Bulgarian FSGB on a 104FR. If you're determined enough to do an SBR then it's not that much more of a hurdle.

>>32431642
Yea, that's why it'll be a GAME CHANGER :^). No one really needs it.

>>32431653
Oh, clever lol

>>32431424
At the time I dont think I was much into AK's so I didnt really hear about it, but I do remember seeing hickock45's video on it and thinking it looked pretty dumb with that stock on a milled receiver. funny thing though, I was trying to see if one couild add an ARM-9 or SAM style abi selector to an ak, and read all about the game-changing disappointment that is almost exactly the same as those fucking FIME vepr things.
>the more I look, the more I hate that stupid straight stock and by extension, m4 buffer tube stocks

>>32431442
>plans from TULA
fuggit, we cant get 9x39 anyway. We will have to scale around 7.62x39 and .300blk.

>>32431642
with serials below 010 wouldnt they practically be dealer samples? not technically in production (or at least US distribution) I'm guessing that was around the time of the 7n6 bullshit, so importers probably thought there wasn't going to be any market.
yeah I really want a proper 105 clone, but with FSGBs at a price of>$300 those sellers can go fuck themselves.

>>32431821
>with serials below 010 wouldnt they practically be dealer samples?
...no? Why?

>>32431821
http://www.k-var.com/shop/AK-142B.html
They restock from time to time.

>>32429074
>SLR-104CR since it would be an AK105
Are you retarded?

>>32431488

I have a great CNC guy. I have a machine shop of sorts and we sometimes lend each other tools and machine time.

>>32431856
because with so few real 104crs, I would think the initial runs of any guns would be dealer sample/examples of product that would be forthcoming. but I'm not in the industry so I'm just making vaguely educated guesses as to why I cant buy something that I would really like to

>>32431878
Ive been checking that and the 142R as often as I check my email for at least 6 months, no joy

>>32431887
I hope not. but I'll respond because I've got a good buzz going
I recall som interweb hearsay along the lines of 'small arms manufacturing for civilians can be suspended in order fulfill military contracts.' Separately, there were some Saigas that ended up with AK103 markings or cutouts from surplus venezuelan contract receivers.
>in case you didnt know, an SLR-104CR is[would be] pretty goddamn similar to an AK105

>>32432069
>I would think the initial runs of any guns
Not necessarily. Those guns may have their own serial numbering scheme.
>'small arms manufacturing for civilians can be suspended in order fulfill military contracts.
For Arsenal? Yea. What does that have to do with the SLR104CR "being an AK-105 and thus we can't have it"?

>tfw no an-94

>>32432303
Step it up

>>32431176
I don't want the official /k/ meme rifle. Especially since I know it will never actually come out; just like everything else this shithole tires to crowdsource.

>>32431392
Bitcoins.

>>32432547
>crowdsource
By my count, its one anon, one tripfag and one tripfag's imaginary friend

Ill buy one in any caliber or barrel length when there's proof of this meme gun

>>32418086
So is it the bolt that gives it accuracy? I'm not understanding how such a short barrel can snipe.
Neat project.

Molot is going to be making the VSS
http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2016/10/05/molot-vintorez/
"According to one source, 9×39 ammunition is already in production, however Molot is also set to produce a Vintorez in 7.62×39. Of course, sourcing commercial subsonic 7.62×39 may have it’s own challenges.
Details on the Molot Vintorez are still limited, however the release is set for early 2017 with a price tag of $1,500 USD.

Will the US ever see a Molot VSS? Hard to say, but given the attached suppressor, importation restrictions make it seem unlikely in the short term. However, I am happy for Russian shooters and collectors – this is a unique rifle."

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I really like where this thread is going

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>>32418529
>>32431033

WEVE ONLY JUST BEGUUUUN....TO LiiiiiiiIIIIIIIIVE.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__VQX2Xn7tI


>>32427472
>>32427776

Get in touch with me, baby. I'll turn all your feels into realz.


>>32431064

Not fair to assume all of these types of projects are scams. Glaring generalization.

>>32431064
Nigger you have no idea what in the fuck you are talking about

>>32432547
But that's a nugget you dumb nigger

>>32431064

We'll find a place where there's room to grow
And yes, We've just begun

>>32433789
>Get in touch with me, baby. I'll turn all your feels into realz.
You've provided nothing to assume you know what you're doing or that you have the machinery or knowledge to cad up the parts to make this happen.

Post a milling machine, post some parts you're making in cad, post something tangible. I'm sick and tired of latching onto stupid dreamers who don't know shit and try hard for nothing to happen.

>>32432887
short barrels are inherently more accurate because they aren't as prone to flexing as long barrels. conversely, longer barrels allow the bullet to build up more speed from extended pressure influence

>>32435781
um OP posted a 3d printed vss receiver, its orange. You're responding to some memelord

>>32432887
It's a heavy subsonic bullet, it has limited range so extreme precision and accuracy isn't important. However, barrel length doesn't directly influence accuracy, though it can affect it at extended ranges if a longer barrel will allow a more complete powder burn and thus more speed. You don't want a bullet to pass through the sound barrier as that will upset its stability.

>>32436529
3d printing doesn't mean shit because it can't print steel, nor can it turn down a barrel or make a receiver or anything on the vss except the handguards. Beyond prototyping it's essentially a meme

>>32436529
>>32436600
Thanks. I'm just starting to learn.
So long barrels are all about speed and in turn, range?
What makes this thing a "thread-splitter" and would it be any more accurate than an suppressed AR in 300BLK?

>>32438200
>So long barrels are all about speed and in turn, range?
Yes. If you could have the shortest barrel possible to stabilize a bullet and had a magic propellant that gave it maximum velocity from that barrel, it would perform identically to an, otherwise the same, longer barreled gun with a matched propellant.

>>32427731
>Who the fuck did you give money to? I specifically refused donations for the project. http://vssvintorez.tumblr.com/
Click "Donate"
http://vssvintorez.tumblr.com/
Paypal link to [email protected]

Oy vey.

>>32417994
>ask us if we know how the innards of the gun works
>being so much of a jew you won't let us investigate it because "boohoo i spilled $150 over a model of the VSS"
>know fuck all how it works
>want to machine it all out, despite this
I hope you manage to do it and it blows up in your face t?b?h f?a??m

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>>32431821

>>32438278
He ended up provided step of the trigger assembly and wow was it useless because it's a striker fired weapon. At least, it appears to be according to this modeler who may or may not have actually ever seen the thing, never mind measured anything.

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>>32436645
>3d printing doesn't mean shit
>blah blah
>Beyond prototyping
well what a coincedence, becasue thats what's going on, prototyping off of OP's model to see how accurate the model's measurements are. going straight to CAMing steel parts with un-tested measurements would be as dumb as your post

>>32436993
the 9x39 or a similar wildcat wouldn't be that hard to make for a handloader, but 300blk is already popular and factory ammo is available. I'm going to work on the possibility of converting it to original spec, but its best to start with a round that has a viable source. plus 300blk was designed with the basic principle of 9x39 anyway, subsonic operations and a short gas system suited to it's lower pressure nature.

>>32438200
trips pretty much nailed it >>32438222
Although I will add that the barrel needs to be long enough for the bullet to engage the rifling and stabilize properly, otherwise the round tumbles around like 5.45 does out of an 8" barrel aksu


>>32438305
ok, and whats the cost per round on that, stateside? like $20? vs pic related

>>32438742
>Although I will add that the barrel needs to be long enough for the bullet to engage the rifling
Unless the end of the barrel is the end of the chamber it will engage the rifling.
>stabilize properly
I mentioned that.
>otherwise the round tumbles around like 5.45 does out of an 8" barrel
How is this meme still going?

>>32438889
> shortest barrel possible to stabilize a bullet
so you did, I was looking for 'rifling' forgive me, I've been drinking german christmas liqours since noon

>How is this meme still going?
Its a meme? I swear seen a bunch of 8" barrel 5.45 groups on paper targets showing keyholing
maybe Im misremembering results of 5.45 out of re-chambered 5.56nato barrels

>>32438742
Call me when you actually make one. Good luck having a top cover made too while you're at it. Stamping is expensive as shit.

This won't happen, if it does screen capture this post and make a thread about it. Not that it will ever happen because random trips have tried before.

>>32439024
He wouldn't have to stamp it.

>>32439289
the top cover is stamped, how else would he make a top cover?

>>32440517
You can shape sheet metal with hand tools, for instance. Sheet metal was used before stampings were commonplace, dude.

>>32440536
it's the same thing... it would involve more work than he would put into it.

To have one in spec to reproduce them for mass quantities he would have to have them stamped in a press to achieve the perfect draw and shape of the part so that they have interchangeability.

>>32440617
If it's going into mass production then getting a stamping machine made is what he'd have to do, isn't it? If he's doing a few in his garage he could make his own stamping dies and use a good shop press. Come on.

>>32440643
look I think we're arguing about the same thing here. Obviously, stamping and bashing something into shape with a hammer are ways to make the top cover, maybe ugly as fuck, but fine if it worked.

I'm just pointing out the idiocy of the fact that NO ONE itt has the manufacturing capability or the actual patience or planning to make one from scratch, and there's nothing a few cad files and a few 3d printed objects can do to change my mind.

>>32440706
Right, no one here will do it. It's not even remotely impossible.

>>32440749
If a company or a dedicated team who put up updates and made actual progress I'd be very excited. Autists on an imageboard, however have exhausted my ability to hope.

>Evil Death Nightmare
>Project Yedinorog
>that one guy who was going to make hammer forged /k/ etched knives
>various others

>>32440706
nope. there is no way anyone could possibly take a 3d print of a stamped part, form a jig from that, and use that jig as a guide in a 12ton harbor freight hydraulic press to stamp some pre cut bits of sheet metal into a part that will have little to no force exerted on it.
>everyone go home because anon has clearly gone through the exact same process and failed his way back to freshman year trying to stamp some sheet metal with a ballpeen hammer

>>32440838
well then you go right ahead and do it. mill the receiver out of steel, turn down the bolt and mill it to shape, while you're at it. surprise me

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>>32430975

>>32440877
Why would I not use aluminium? I have a massive block of aircraft aluminium already

>>32431523
Bruh she's fine

>>32430720
what 3D printer did you use?
the look clean AF

>>32432333
how do you ship them?
or better: how do you get them to ship to the US?

>>32431138
it would be, but you're just a faggot

>>32443778
You gotta have ways

OP, shoot me an email. I have a place you might want to visit.

>>32444032
atf

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>>32435781

"Post a milling machine, post some parts you're making in cad, post something tangible"

I'll do what I want to do, faggot. I've posted early CAD renderings, I've posted a working FCG, and soon I'll post a working prototype.

The person I have helping me with them now engineers turbine blades; I'm not really worried. The best part is you guys are clamoring over the models for something that looks like an over-engineered piece of shit, can't even decide on proportions to make it realistic size. But it's me whos larping. Yeah. Ok.

I understand that many ITT have been burned; but I'm happy to get a rise out of people that will look very stupid, very shortly.

My sides will reach terminal velocity, surpassing the heavens.

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>>32445243
What are you going to do about magazines?

>>32445282

Nice Furtopia there, degenerate. Still made me randy anyway.

What do you want to know about the feed system? Ask away.

The next PLG will show the bolt feeding a sweet, sweet 9mm load into the breech.

>>32445243
Wow, if it isn't the edgemaster of 2016 award winner!

>GUISE he machines stuff, I'll just give him this file and in a week I'll have a fully functional gun. You're all just jealous.

Nigga you have a video game quality file that isn't even legal to build or distribute.

Not only is your dog already dead, but you don't know jack shit about machining. Even if you wanted to avenge your dog, your bro will arrive with what appears to be some sort of dildo with fan blades and say 'here, this is what I can do.'

Good luck, and stop being such a cocky faggot. Build before you post gay shit like this. Now you just look like a retard who bought some cawadooty kids hobby-done rendering for way too much money.

20$ says you'll get angry that you failed before you even tried, and contemplate how pathetic your life is.

>>32445431
>when anon is so blinded by rage he forgets who he's replying to

>>32445431
>machines stuff

Reading isn't your strong suit, is it? Never said anything about machining. His primary task is to optimize the weak components and possibly streamline production using differing construction scenarios.

"Nigga you have a video game quality file that isn't even legal to build or distribute."

Wait, are you even sure we are talking about the same thing? I'm the Pepe Liberator guy, not the never-going-to-be-built, whateverthefuckthisis guy.

It's perfectly legal to build guns where I live.

>Not only is your dog already dead

Not illegal.

> but you don't know jack shit about machining.

Never said I was a machinist freindo

> Build before you post gay shit like this.

I have. I have posted proof of construction.

>stop being such a cocky faggot

Sure, just as soon as everyone ITT can admit they are LARPing hard as fuck.

>20$ says

20$ says you don't even live in a free country, I don't want your monopoly money, cuck.

>>32445586

I know....I was like...yo, I'm the other nigga, nigga

>>32445282
I want to ______ that rabbit

>>32445603

Put in your mouth and violently, yet sexually shake your head until dead; to leave at your owners doorstep?

I smell ATF Thread and everyone is being baited.

>>32445645

I don't understand how the ATF would be involved. Someone was talking about the FSB, too.

Someone has...files...and that's illegal? That doesn't make sense.

>>32445655
ITAR

>>32445749
I didn't think ITAR made ones and zeros illagal

>>32445749

Ok, that makes more sense but doesn't explain what is going on that is illegal. These are CAD files.

If there were parts flying back and forth, I could see it, but design discussion? Idk man, that seems pretty far fetched. 1st Amendment.

>>32445776
youd be mistaken

>>32445819
Mind citing where in ITAR it says that, then?

>>32445788
>1st Amendment.
United States v. Progressive Inc

>>32445749
ITAR doesn't apply to importing things into the USA and I don't see anyone importing anything.

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>>32445243
>soon I'll post a working prototype.
please screencap this post and post it when you do because I'm not even going to reply to your "nuh uh, I'll really do it! even though I don't have anything to show for it" post. Anyway, good luck faggot.

>>32448092
He won't

>>32417994
Nigga you paid 150 for a CAD file? Fucking google GrabCAD and just find one on there

>>32448823
OP is retarded but I doubt grabCAD has even a complete VSS model on it.

>>32448976
Not the guy you replied to, but it doesnt.

>>32436600
This, with bullets you go subsonic or way over the sound barrier, once an object goes from super to subsonic it generates a lot of turbulence around.

>>32445788
He's talking about the ruling between Cody Wilson and DefDist VS the US government.
He made a functioning gun, then released the .stl to create it. Apparently it was ruled to be illegal to do so because of ITAR.

>>32445590
>proof of construction

literally erector pieces badly hacked at with tin snips or a file.

still waiting to see how you're going to chemically etch a rifled barrel.

>>32449136
ITAR is a bunch of bullshit. Literally no one in the defense industry hasn't been fined over it.

>>32449152
>still waiting to see how you're going to chemically etch a rifled barrel.
That would take such a long time and be so much effort compared to traditional practices like broaching or cut rifling, why would someone do this?

>>32449168
because this sperg is convinced he can design a rifle that costs less than $100 to DIY manufacture. I asked him what his plans were for providing a rifled barrel and his response was literally "I'll just rough cut the rifling and then flush an acid and neutralizer down the bore in controlled pulses to bring it to finish size".

If your eyes are bleeding from the ignorance on display, you might understand a thing or two about manufacturing steel products. his awesome proof of concept fire control group is literally erector pieces.

>>32449288
>because this sperg is convinced he can design a rifle that costs less than $100 to DIY manufacture.
BOM? That's fairly doable. But as we all know there's expenses for a product than the BOM cost.
>"I'll just rough cut the rifling and then flush an acid and neutralizer down the bore in controlled pulses to bring it to finish size".
If that's a real quote it might be the most hilariously ignorant statement on manufacturing goods I've ever seen.

>>32449319
I'm not seeing how to do that for sub 100. If you buy an unturned rifled barrel blank from green mountain or similar that's half of your budget right there. Even that requires you to ream the chamber, so you'll need a lathe and chamber reamers. Buying chamber reamers alone will blow away the $100 budget.

I don't see how you can produce anything but a smoothbore scattergun DIY for under $100. And yes, that's his plan with the acid. He doesn't even understand that the technical problem to resolve isn't the tolerance on groove dimensions but getting a smooth and correctly spaced twist to the grooves. The best I could come up with is a rifling jig that guides a carbide cutting tool but once again tooling costs will exceed the $100 budget. If this kid spent as much time cracking engineering textbooks as memeposting on a malasian thumb sucking enthusiast forum he might get a clue.

>>32449288
Jesus Christ, not even button rifle it, but acid etch an entire barrel?

Fuck me that's just sadistic if he was serious.

>>32449383
You're right, it's completely impossible outside of full scale mass production like I was thinking of.

>>32449383
Don't forget that the barrel itself has holes in it so it could be suppressed better. That would add to the expense of tooling and manufacture

>>32449386
I can't think of a way to etch rifling. You could mask the barrel with stop-off lacquer, then scrape off the masking where you want the grooves, then flush the barrel with an acid. But that would take hundreds of hours and if you have the ability to scribe a helical groove through the masking you have the ability to cut the damn rifling.

>>32449425
yep, mass production could get the BOM down to $100. Figure $200 in labor and overhead and you get a $300 cost for a rifle with a $500 MSRP sole wholesale for $350 and retails for $450

but that's not what retard liberator is talking about

t. manufacturing engineer

>>32449470
DIY EDM barrel porting... tap your house main, connect negative to barrel, freehand hover the positive over the porting location, try not to die?

I've ported a barrel before, with a dividing head on my bridgeport. it was a 10/10 pain in the dick to lay out and the drilling left a ragged burr on the bore I.D. that tore up bullets until it was fire-lapped out. Took me probably 50 hours.

>>32430996
Theres nothing illegal about printing 100% either, at least in non retard states

>>32449505
So his actual end game for this business venture is to make rifles out of his garage?

Sometimes I doubt my competency but then I hear about these people and feel better about myself.

>>32449578

once he runs out of erector pieces he's either going to kill himself with a royal-nonsuch tier pipe bomb gun or complete his sophomore year of high school

>>32449505
Some larger barrels for artillery and tank are 'etched'.
Electro chemical etching using helical elctrodes around a polymer form and acids being constantly flushed at high volume. Like EDM but more aggressive.

>>32449618
didn't know that.

made a fuckhueg tunable (anti-chatter) boring bar for a naval arsenal once for my day job, figured the rifling would be cut with similar.

>>32449539
Exactly my point without a 1 million dollar machine or a bridgeport and a fuck ton of hours and money in tooling he's blowing smoke out his ass.

Tbh though this build looks easier than a svd just because of the fsb that the svd has.

Also, fucking Russians and their selector switches. Like half stamped half milled shits

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>>32445603
you could just take the middle ground and settle for Felicity Jones.

I mean, /tv/ seems to think she resembles a bunny, then again /tv/ has ascended autism. Case in point, they made pic related

Just bought a 3d printer, OP should share the files

>>32449844
Why not just rip them yourself?

>>32448823
I have every worthy firearm model on grabcad, and the is no VSS. No blueprints anywhere aside from a few half-finished ones either, even on the russian internet

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Tell me this idea is dumb.

>buy 3d printer
>print out part
>use sand or something to create mold around 3d printed part
>pour metal in the mold
>have a metal part in the shape you want without needing to have any actual skills

>>32449893
Good luck with thermal expansion and shrinkage. Also aluminum bolts and carriers don't work well.

Also good luck melting steel down at your house

>>32449980
I was thinking I'd use an arc furnace for the melting bit, and to heat up molten salt for heat treatment.

>>32449893
cast parts still need machining

>>32449992
See
>>32450015

You can't just pour metal and expect to have a functional firearm. You would have to machine the critical dimensions

>>32450039
I'm presuming that a cast barrel is simply unlikely to work.

But I was thinking it might be a useful technique for the bolt carrier.

Like, if you took an off the shelf barrel, used sheet steel and casting for everything else, then it might be workable.

Obviously, there would be casting imperfections that need to be sanded or filed. I'm interested to see how bad the tolerances could be and still produce a repeating firearm.

>>32431287
I'll bring .300blk to grozny and you can try it in the mags if you want to not bother buying some on your own

>>32440706
won't AK's run without the topcover on?
If he gets it built he could deal with the top cover later

>>32450128
This is a VSS, not an AK, but yes it could work without the top cover.

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OP again. Got some parts fitting finally. Not mpressed with the stock adapter part on the receiver but my print may be slightly warped. Gonna make more tomorrow

>>32450306
Hahahaha what the fuck is this

>machining
>shit 3D print
Nice desk toy OP

>>32450306
Was wondering if you'd deliver, good luck m8.

>>32450366
3d printing is a good way to test if the plans are worth the time and materials to machine
plastic is cheaper than metal

>>32450306
>printed the mag as one side peice
This place is full of morons.

>>32450533
That's the mag body and baseplate as one solid

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>>32449869
These?

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>>32450642
Well that's useless. Where did you get these drawings?

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>>32450667
>>32450662
I think I snatched them from a /k/ thread a while ago, though it looks like they're all here too: http://vssvintorez.com/gallery/

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>>32450689
Holy shit these people were making drawings in fucking SketchUp?

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>>32450716

>>32424167

nigga those look like megablocks you best bust out some lego packaging and prove yoself

>>32424109
Lmao

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>>32450725

>>32424109
Like, literally lmao
I'm laughing my fucking ass off at this pathetic post irl

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>>32450735

>>32417994

is there a reason why people love this gun so much besides its beauty?

>>32450783
Subsonic 260gr bullets are cool.

>>32450783
le elite spetsnaz unicorn gun

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>>32450751

>>32450783
It was in that game Stalker, which is like what 60% of /k/ played growing up.

>>32449505

i've done a bit of research on producing guns, and the real sticky part is the barrel.

if you're handy, you can make a carbide piece that is pulled through the barrel at a certain rate of twist. that's not that big of a deal.

but GOOD FUCKING LUCK boring the barrel out properly in your garage. i'm not even sure where you'd get an actual gundrill. and i half doubt you're going to find a machine that could use it for less than six figures. at least for long barrels. pistol barrel, yeah, you can make a legit barrel out of stock. it's only 5-6 inches deep.

but a 12+ inch barrel? good luck, you'd have to be a very talented machinist even if you had the right equipment.

and if you expect performance, the metal has to be tempered in such a way that the inner wall more give than the outer wall, and the material tolerances are such that the act of boring it could work harden the surface to the point that the impulse would rupture it.

barrels are a marvel.

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>>32450843
It depends on what you plan to do, match shooting us going to never happen and making money for your time won't happen unless you manage to make a clockwork type multi barrel jig and even then you'll be hard pressed to justify the cost or time when well made industrial barrels are possible.

>>32450843
I wouldn't want to buy a sloppy handmade barrel, even if it was cheap. Nothing wrong with using a Green Mountain blank and going from there.

>>32449470
to clarify the production intent. obviously we all want a legit VSS clone, but there are some drawbacks to making a clone outside of Russia. let alone, North America. the main one being ammunition. yeah we could be retarded and design it around the most ballistically similar AR15 wildcat round (I think it's called the gremlin or something) but that is niche as fuck.

Initial physical prototypes will not be ported for suppression
We are trying to postpone any kind of BS legal paperwork as long as possible. so when this takes off and all three of you /k/ommandos decide to buy this 1st run, unsuppressed, 300blk, braced pistol, you can file the form1, port the barrel and buy the k-baffles or whatever we end up designing to fit in the barrel shroud, buy the furniture and have yourself a 300blk, double-stamp VSS
I (independently) am rolling around the idea in my head to adapt the 9x39 dimensions of the rifle to work with 6.5 grendel. I need to find out about rocknroll grendel mags because I think 6.5 grendel Vepr mags are single stack and that wont work without serious design changes.
I am hoping we dont need to deviate from the original dimensions for any gun that ends up being made, but it may be unavoidable, sorry m8 >>32431198


>>32450725
>>32450716
>>32450696
>>32450751
>>32450735
>>et cetera
parts diagrams are about as useful as playing GunDisassembly, and 9/10 of these measurements are accurate to the mm. thats a start, but thats still a ways off from being good source material to produce a working prototype that's even halfway safe

>>32450306
hey man, this >>32450602
made me think, are there any springs details in the file?

>>32450921
>>32450843
why bore and rifle your own shit?
barrel blanks are relatively cheap, the issue is profiling and chambering.

>>32451019
who is making these? Please clarify who the 3 of you are.

>>32450306
put a trip on m8

>>32451019
Man, half my post about home rifling was saying it's a retarded idea I know it's stupid, just saying it's possible

This entire thread

>what is proof of concept and creating moving parts to test function and fit

>>32451048
>forgot trip
clarify how? Right now, I'm seeing this as a REAL thing with boring email newsletters and a livestreamed prototype#1 function test. OP is testing his measurements for dry function, and myself and my friend/aquaintence that may or may not have full access to a CNC shop are on holiday for the holidays, and I'm almost certain none of us are geographically close, holiday or not.
I will make this happen or I will make this the opportunity for this to happen. "This" isnt just about the VSS, its about all of you /k/omrades, we want something that has been verboten, this glorious slavshit, we want a /k/ompany that will deliver, we need our symbol on the side of a gun
got a little emotional there

>>32451069
not stupid, inefficient? yes. possible? yes. stupid? not entirely

>>32451303
>>32451069
>>32450921
You could try something like this?
With a small barrel, lathes and carbide cutters
https://youtu.be/24_c2d4BbXs
A jig that guides a cutting edge into a barrel blank
https://youtu.be/ihPFjuxBjPo

You will need the right machinery to do these methods though.

There was a company with a facebook page that already has made parts. They've posted images. Anyone remember their name?

>>32451303
who are you in contact with? Not real names of course, I mean trips.

>>32417994
How do we out-vintorez the Vintorez?

A bigger, fatter bullet. That's how.

Any "intermediate" subsonic rounds using something like a .50 BMG?

>>32451573
>>32451581
Whoa! where are those from? I've never come across those models before

>>32451583
It's funny because I've been dicking around with an 11x39mm round on Solidworks

>>32451670
>11x39mm
Are you talking a custom bullet then, or something already on the market?

>>32451679
just a wildcat I had in mind. you basically just don't neck down a 7.62x39 and there you go

>>32451754
>getting rid of the taper on x39 rounds

Feeding problems inbound.

>>32451583
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ASh-12.7

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>OP on the cusp of making a Vintorez
>Have no clue about the legalities of weapons manufacturing
>mfw I REALLY want to buy one if things work out.

Give it to me straight /k/, is something beautiful going to come out of this?

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>>32449136

ITAR came very close to being declared unconstitutional on first amendment grounds in the 90s over the encryption lawsuit being pushed by phil zimmerman at that time.

The guy literally published a book with the source code in it and dared the feds to ban it. It's arguable that they're getting pretty close again with the current encryption stuff, and with the nasty letters they keep sending over Defcad.

>>32451787
>Give it to me straight /k/, is something beautiful going to come out of this?
No, some of the posts ITT are word-for-word retreads of shit from UnicornFucker VSS threads from 4 years ago. The only difference now it there's some extra helping of hubris because "Heh, we're not going to crash and burn like those Yedinirog faggots, we have real World of Guns cad files this time!"
Ecclesiastes 1:9 desu

>>32451303
You have no idea what you're doing and you will never make anything of this. You and OP are both too uneducated.
>>32451583
I remember something like a 7.62x51 case with a .50 bullet in it.

>>32452610
.510 Whisper, that was it. .338LM cases.

>>32451990
Pretty much, lol. It takes more than some cad files from a Russian website and a few promises to make a rifle.

>>32451990
Point one out

>>32451303
>OP is testing his measurements for dry function, and myself and my friend/aquaintence that may or may not have full access to a CNC shop are on holiday for the holidays, and I'm almost certain none of us are geographically close, holiday or not.

Jesus, it's yedrinorog all over again.

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>>32452754
>none of us are geographically close

>>32449859
Because I dont want to spend $100 on some files.

>>32453311
Rip them not buy them.
Get the lifetime package for Gun Disassembly 2, on sale right now.
Rip the models and load them into a CAD package. All the software can be found pirated or as a free trial.
Anything that was made from actual blueprints is pretty much spot on for meaasurements, some simplifying was done for better meshes. Some models were made from cutaways and pictures and are simpler. Would need to find a known dimension and work from there to verify.

>>32453555
It's not that easy. I have all of the world of gun files but they're in their own weird proprietary format so I can't open them. Even then, they're .stl files at best so getting measurements is not even worth the time

>>32454204
I do not think that the models from WOG aren't 100% spot on

>>32454873
They're definitely not but they'd be good for replicas or props.

I love this thread

do it faget

>>32445590
>His primary task is to optimize the weak components and possibly streamline production using differing construction scenarios.
Wow this sentence is really long for meaning absolutely nothing.

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>>32417994
(YOU OP)

YOU WASTED YOUR MONEY.

Also, I was looking at the M16 models

THE ARE MISSING PARTS, EVEN CRUCIAL PARTS THAT WOULD CAUSE MALFUNCTIONS.

>>32457980
I could have told you that.

>>32458063
I already knew but this makes it official.

The person who modeled the guns is no engineer, he even puts that as a disclaimer on his site that they cannot be used to make a working firearm,

But he's no different from just a kid making a 3D game model to mod a game.

The parts are dimensionally made up.

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IT'S LIKE YOU ALL FORGOT SLAGGA WAS MAKING ONE
fagbook /SlaggaMFG/

>>32458306
>crowdfunded bullshit
Haha, never gonna happen.

>>32458321
they reached their goal and got the machines they needed.

>>32458347
I can buy machines I don't know how to use, too.

>>32458393
They have two engineers and a seasoned machinist as well

>>32458405
Sure they do.

>>32458130
>>32457980

Jesus christ you're dense. This has been brought up on this thread already. you don't need perfectly precise dimensions to make a recreation, how do you think firearm clones have been made throughout history. Luckily I have a mechanical engineering degree so I know a little bit about how to tweak the parts to be more functional. Just because you're too stupid/lazy/uncreative to reverse engineer something and make a functioning rifle for yourself doesn't mean everyone else is

>>32458512
>Luckily I have a mechanical engineering degree
Nigga you're a liar.

>>32458512
if you have to do so much to change it why don't you release the model for us to fuck with?

>>32458414
>>32458532
How does it feel knowing that nobody will ever love you?

>>32457980
>>>sent by [email protected]
Seriously UF no one likes you, your project is a joke and you're a failure at anything you've ever done. Go home. Or even better, work on your joke of a project.

OP, email me the files.

>>32458130
>The parts are dimensionally made up.

Hi.

All dimensions for all features of all products are "made up". First by necessity of function, then by manufacturability, then by aesthetics.
If OP doesn't intend to have any interchangeability with the original rifles (or any of the other projects to build this rifle), then he can tweak dimensions as required to make things work.

Not having in-depth knowledge of the internal components of the Vintorez, nor having the CAD files to compare them to, I can't assess whether it's missing any major features or components.

At best, you can hope for something that is sorta-kinda based on the Vintorez, if it gets off the ground at all. Honestly, I'd be fine with that.

As a guy with more than a few projects on the backburner, I'm not going to hold my breath in terms of seeing anything substantial anytime soon, though I do wish OP and everyone else working on /k/ projects the best of luck with their endeavors.

This thread is about to hit bump limit, btw. You might want to start a new thread and link it here before this one 404's.

>>32417994
Another round of:

>Hey I'm not going to do shit but I'm going to say I'm going to do shit, anyone want to help?

Pics of your finished Vintorez reproduction or GTFO, we're not falling for this shit anymore.

>>32459215
DrafterAnon, been a while since you stopped by the IRC. What's it been, like 3 months? We've been makin progress

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>>32427559
I got an understanding on the trigger mech, if you can send the whole model I can make a video detailing on how each part works and interconnects with eachother.

Send to
[email protected]

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>>32459303

'Sup man.

Yeah, it has been a while. Life has been hectic lately. Hope to get a bunch of stuff dealt with soon and have some progress to show on my end. The print head that came with my printer is borked. No matter how much fiddling I do in terms of temperatures and the like, it just gets clogged after a couple dozen layers. I'm going to try and replace the entire extruder assembly sometime this week or the next.

Got a 3D scanner coming, too, so that'll save some time and effort in reverse-engineering stuff. Measuring out components by hand is really painstaking.

My AR-7 model is ~50% complete. Got a few features on the inside of the receiver left to go, missing a few major ones in the bolt, then it's down to the trigger components (including safety) and the magazines. Studying it has really given me a much deeper appreciation for Eugene's work. Especially since this thing was made based off a bolt-action rifle in a completely different caliber. I'm definitely going to be borrowing a few aspects of the design in future projects.

>>32458678
I don't care because unlike any of these misfits I have an actual business :^)

>>32459437
Where do you live I know someone with an SVD plz scan it and make models that can be CNC'd

>>32459472

North of the 49th. Not going to happen, friend.

I'm more interested in making my own designs, anyway. Basing stuff off of other guns? Sure. Maybe making accessories for them (like the pictured AR-7 stock). Full-on clones of guns? Ehhhhhhhh.

"Design intent" is really important and it's not always evident based on a drawing or 3D model. Unless you can really put yourself in the shoes of the guy who designed it, you're really at the mercy of his competency.

Not every gun is the AR-15.

>>32459536
na man just do /k/ a favor and scan it in so we can do the rest of the work

>>32459594

I'm not going to jail for you guys. Sorry.

I'm keeping all my work strictly above-board. Illegally importing a prohibited firearm is not in the cards.

>>32459437
You should still stop by, been way too long, JeffRod is working on ECM rifling of barrels right now.

>>32458532
he's probably not. c's get degrees and stem is the new hotness.

>>32459633

Yeah, I saw that briefly on twitter. Very exciting stuff! It got me all giddy.

>>32459646
Im getting a printer hopefully by the end of the week if shipping comes through. Gonna get some shit printed and made.

>>32459665

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vc7VBVpl1SY

>>32459633
>JeffRod is working on ECM rifling of barrels right now.
Haha ok boy, what's the process gonna be?

>>32459819
Do you not know what ECM means?
Electrochemical Machining. Look it up.

>>32459835
I know what it means, dipshit. How are you going to rifle a barrel using ECM?

make a new thread

>>32459911
maybe you should look at this https://twitter.com/fosscad/status/812875518798229504

>>32459923
>OP's dreams abruptly shoved into the same mass grave as the previous vss scams
>making a new thread and talking about it more will surely help

>>32459930
>poorly """"rifled""""" 2" tube
WHOA

Fucking amateurs.

>>32439024
>I have a mechanical engineering degree and supposedly a business but have never heard of single point incremental forming for prototyping

Of all the larpers on 4chan the ones who have absolutly no idea what they are talking about are the most entertaining.