Caliber for Beginners

>>32406299
.45

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>>32406324

>>32406299
>Basic bitch question that the sticky or 5 minutes of lurking could answer
>IMG_0615.jpg

Did you make this thread in an attempt to push a thread where you said some dumb shit off of the catalog? Because this just screams "throwaway thread."

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>>32406299
This is the flowchart I made awhile ago. Maybe it will help.

>>32406342
Yes, you caught me

You see all of those dumb threads in the catalog? I made those

Superb detective work

>>32406299
.177

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>>32406367
>You see all of those dumb threads in the catalog? I made those

>>32406353
>shotguns
lmao nice meme. Maybe if OP wants dove protection.

>>32406299
To give you a serious answer, rimfire or a pistol caliber carbine are good places to start with a long gun. Rimfire or .38 special out of a .357 magnum revolver are good places to start with a handgun. 20 gauge is a good starter shotgun, but .410 will make you a better shot and 12 gauge is more versatile.

>>32406299
9mm/.45ACP or 5.45/5.56.

>>32406461
You do realize a .410 slug is almost the same as a .44 magnum and quite a bit stronger than a 9mm or .45 ACP, right?

>>32406299

I recommend .22LR as the definitive beginner's cartridge to everyone who asks. The minimal recoil will prevent you from developing a flinching habit, and the low cost will make it affordable to nail the fundamentals.

>>32406299
nugget

>1 hour into thread
>OP's made a single post after his first
>It has nothing to do with the topic

Yup, throwaway thread.

>>32406565
>.45acp

>beginner

I'm sorry but that's incorrect.

>>32406804
There's no reason you couldn't learn to shoot with a .45 ACP handgun.

>>32406898
>More expensive than 9mm
>Won't make people or paper any deader than 9mm

>>32406928
I was just saying you could do it. I prefer 9x19.

>>32406796

>Almost 2017
>Not assuming OP is here, reading replies
>kys

>>32406962
>Current year
>Not knowing that this is a meme thread
>Not knowing how to greentext
KYS

>>32406898
Unless they've got a professional coach, the stronger recoil is going to encourage the development of bad habits and poor technique. Beginners starting with a smaller cartridge have an easier time getting used to the bang and kick and then graduating to bigger cartriges.

>>32406976
I disagree. I think you could learn to shoot on basically any gun.

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>first gun was sns-tier gat chambered in .380
>current gun is still that sns-tier gat chambered in .380

I got it for like 150, and I still think I overpaid a little

>>32406928
Besides the fact it leaves a bigger hole, and can be completely suppressed, then yeah it's the same as 9mm

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>>32407015
I'm not disagreeing that it's possible learn on any gun, any platform. Hell, for decades people trained on full power rifle cartridges and they turned out fine.

It's just been my experience that complete novice civilians tend to shy away from the noise and kick of larger cartridges, which gives a bigger hurdle to overcome before they get comfortable with the weapon.

Ultimately, the best gun to learn on is the one you enjoy shooting. The gun you enjoy having. The gun you clean when it doesn't really need it because you just like handling it. The one that sits in the corner and makes you smile.

>>32407087
I wasn't thinking about the person not at all interesting in firearms. I think that a person interested in firearms would be much more aware of the noise and recoil and be less afraid of it. Either 9x19 or .45 ACP shouldn't be that intimidating for an uninterested novice and I think it's a much better bet if you will only have a single firearm for a while.

>>32406598
no, no he does not

>>32407060
Are you poor?

>>32407015
You can learn on pretty much any non-magnum gun. You can learn to drive in a semi with a 60 foot trailer, too. That doesn't make it the best way to learn. Best way to learn to shoot well is with mild cartridges because they are more conducive to lots of practice.

>>32407087
A more realistic reason is that they don't want to spend $1/round on ammo.

.223 is a great starter caliber

>>32407061
>can be completely suppressed

So can 9mm. Also, the point of that post wasn't that the calibers are the same. Please read carefully before making reddit-style aggressively passive posts.

>>32407133
>inb4 this stupid thread gets 250+ posts because of this stupid meme

>>32407132
No but I live in a studio apartment, and I think the gun is good enough to repel a school shooter

>>32406461
>dove protection
I'm stealing this