How many guns in this game were actually used in WW1? Like 3?

>>32403956
video games are fun

>>32403956
But it isn't WWI anon. It's a separate timeline on the world "what if?"

>>32403956
It's just a video game, really. Not even a WW1 game, just a video game. Most of the time I will see more blacks on the Germans side and Indians on the British side than see a white man. I'll see four guys following eachother who are all black Germans.
As long as normalfags like it and casual gamers the company doesn't give a shit.

>>32403956
even IAN said that it's a shit game

>>32403956
the germans did buy a bunch of mondragons and used them for a bit though.

>>32403956

Oh, there were lots of guns in WWI. It's just that most of them were bolt-action rifles, so sticking to realism would fuck up the game's balance.

>>32403966
Indeed.

Like what if Black people made up the majority of infantry of the combatant nations.

>>32403956
>>32403981
>>32403972
>nobody mentions Verdun

>>32403973
and he worked on it!

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>>32403982
Black people!?! Say no more.

>>32403973
Please post sauce.
>>32403999
Wew.

I really wonder how many people who play it actually think it's relatively accurate.

>>32403999
he only told them what guns were available at that time

>>32404004
>5 seconds on youtube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vdkx9heY8Kw

>>32404018
Beautiful.

I love you Ian.

>>32404017
Too many, kids have no idea about historical anything, the majority of my friends can't tell me the year WW2 ended

It has nothing to do with WW1 except aesthetics but i'm glad it exists because like world of tanks it gets people interested in often neglected subjects this thread is proof of that.

>>32404017
That's probably why they chose it, due to lack of knowledge regarding the topic they could easily have creative liberties and most people would not question anything

>>32403956
Mondragon saw action in the German Flying Corps dumbass, the weapon choices were a practical one to make things interesting, and go get Verdun, its on sale

>>32404017
This is my issue, historical revisionism, people say it's just a game, but now shitloads of fucktards will think that ww1 was something like that retarded abomination of a game
As a game it's also much more like battlefront than battlefield, i.e, it's a pile of fucking shit

>>32404499
Obviously the new battlefront not the GOAT old ones I mean

>>32404128
Wait I know this, its either 1945 or 1980. I always mix up Hitler and John Bonham's death.

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>>32403957

>>32403956

Is BF1 supposed to be a parody?

Because I erupt every time I see screen shots or gameplay footage.

Goddamn.

>>32404562
It must be, the cheesy PS1 tier aiming gets me. Crosshairs, and when you zoom in you don't use the sites the whole screen just zooms on the same crosshairs.

>>32403993
>Imploding that Verdun was a commercial success
An autism appeaser, yes. Something a AAA publisher/studio could justify sinking tens of millions into? No.

>>32404566
>only knowledge of BF1 is the Ian video

I'm not going to call it good, but I am going to call you a fucking moron

>>32403966

Really? I assumed it was a Steampunk fantasy shooter with Will Smith as the main character.

>>32403956
Many of them were not used, There is still more and more Norps and sjw trying to defend this game, people think that ww1 was juggernauts super soldiers that survives shots from anti tank rifles , tanks being used by every fucking faction and blacks fighting in europe for the german army, this shit is autistic, and people say that it's "racist" to talk about it.

>>32404980
I don't think you know what autistic means

>>32404980
Literally no one thinks that is remotely true

Sounds like youre the autist in this situation

>>32404585
>one campaign level you start off as a black guy
>the rest of the campaign stories are various white people except for the woman but whatever

Go back to /pol/

>>32405027
The woman was white too though

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>>32405054
>arabs were white anon!

Oh fucking god, not this fucking argument again jesus christ.

NO. Arabs are not white.

They are BROWN not WHITE.

I'm amazed that you /pol/tards actually suck so much arab dicks that you would legit believe they are white.

That's fucking pathetic.

>>32405027
>Black people.
>WW1 Europe.
Neck yourself /k/uck.

>>32404575
>plays videogames at all

You children are the real morons.


These shit threads need to stay on >>>/v/

>>32405096
It's a videogame dumbass.

You want realism? Go play verdun.

The game was made by DICE for fuck sakes that should have been your first fucking clue that the game wasn't gonna be accurate on world war one you Mongolian

>>32405096
>One tutorial level where you play as a member of a real life black regiment who served in WW1

>>32405123
shh, don't tell him

his brain is too small for that

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>>32403982
>Battlefield: WE WUZ HUNS AN SHEEIT

>>32403999
Checked, trips of truth confirm

>>32405123
>member of a real life black regiment
>real life
>in a game not called "Truck guarding simulator 1916"
wew

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While BF1 unrealistically represents blacks in WWI, I wonder what it was like to be one of those few black soldiers in the German army who lived in Germany and weren't colonial troops IRL.

>>32405054
>>32405081
Does /pol/ actually legit say that arabs are white people?

The hell?

>>32405537

are you retarded?

/pol/ is not a collective fucking thing you newfaggot

they are just newfaggots

>>32405527
Like any other normal soldier would be treated during the admist of trench warfare.

Seriously, you gonna take the time to turn around and shout out "GODDAMN NIGGERS GET OUT OF MY TRENCH REEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!" while gas, artillery shells" bullets and explosions are happening all around you?

most soldiers didn't have enough time to give that much of a shit about the soldier next to them except for the politicians that did cared about whether or not to put blacks in tranches with whites.

>>32403972
BLACKS AND OTHER OPPRESSED MINORITIES SINGLEHANDEDLY BUILT WESTERN CIVILIZATION

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>arguing about race shit when there's plenty of gun shit to argue about

The idea of a forward carrying handle that still allowed the weapon to be fired wasn't used until WWII.

>>32405561
I'm not talking about combat. Just I imagine it would be interesting to be a black guy in the German army. I'm pretty sure they were just Germans like everybody else, but who knows.

Wir waren soldaten und scheiße!

>>32405628
I remember reading somewhere that in the German army blacks were most commonly buglers or standard bearers and were like some kind of good luck charm

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I'm only mad they are making me pay for two countries that were the main fucking forces!

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>>32405652
Yea, I read that too.

>>32403973
He said that its not an accurate WWI simulator, but as a game, yeah its a fun shooter game.

>>32405099
>implying this isn't /k/ related

>>32405527
they died pointlessly, like everyone else

>>32405699
this

>>32405699
literally the two countries with the most deaths on the entente side

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>>32403982

>>32405699
This

Did they include elephant rifles?

That's one firearm that's overlooked in WW1

They used them to break up sniper hides, small concrete bunkers, and other concrete fortifications

>>32408776
They have the Mauser T-Gewehr rifle, but it's only useful against armoured vehicles

>>32408964
it's actually a guaranteed 1-shot kill against infantry, IIRC this even applies to the other elite classes (Flame, Sentry) which are tougher than the average infantryman. As long as you can consistently land shots and avoid dying during the reload, you can go to town with the T-Gewehr.

unfortunately the Tank Hunter is stuck with a sawed-off shotgun as a secondary so your ability to fight at medium range is a bit shit if you can't git gud with the T-G

>>32405096
>the era of imperial europe
>Euros have colonies in Africa
>Euros need troops
the allied powers at least used a lot of their colonial troops not just in Africa but also on the western front

>>32405561
>put blacks in tranches with whites
The USA was literally the only country that did not want blacks serving alongside whites

>>32403966
No it isn't, they said the opposite you pleb

>Buy Battlefield One
>Download already released mod to de-niggerfy the niggers into historically accurate humans
>????
>Profit!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gw9KcqQSRRI
the most realistic depiction of WW1

>>32410322
Send link to mod.

>>32410322
>>32410528

>Download already released mod that's already been banned from it's upload site for "offensive content."

FTFY

>>32405201
There are a lot of blacks in the game, but both sides fielded significant numbers of colonial troops during the war, even Germany.

>>32403956
While I would certainly love a game with mostly bolt action rifles, it wouldn't appeal to a mass audience. This stuff is made to appeal to the lowest common denominator. There are plenty of other games out there with more realistic warfare, Battlefield won't ever be one of them.

>>32404514
Why did I laugh so hard

>>32405096
You retard, the French colonial troops were feared by the Germans. They carried machetes and had a reputation of being "ruthless savages".

>>32410688

A realistic WW1 game would be boring as fuck gameplay wise.

>stand around in trench for 10 hours
>pop over
>sprint for 30 seconds
>die in hail of machinegun fire
>respawn
>wait 10 more hours
>leg falls off due to trench foot

Etc etc.

>>32409521
The AEF didn't even want them on the same battlefield. They loaned them out to the French and never looked back.

>>32410779
dice and ea could of made a story line that had this in some narrative form, but no. That would require reading a fucking book. Its much easier to cookie cut the story and water down the multiplayer to keep it in step and pace their modern shoot em ups

>make ww1 game
>take every liberty you can
yes i mad.

>>32410797
Most realistic warfare games would suck

>Sit in FOB for 13 days with nothing to do because of sporadic fire.
>Take your first shit in the last 3 weeks.
>You pray an RPG hits you in the chest so that you may finally stop pooping flaming hot razor blades
>return to doing nothing as snackbars shoot at you with AKs from 2 mountains away.

>>32403956
I played this game at my bro's house and after 3 hours I got the impression that DICE meant to make a WW2 game but failed horribly. Seriously WW1 is the dumbest fucking setting, to make it semi interesting they had to make every aspect of this game fantastical to actually make the WW1 setting work for a BF title. Don't get me wrong I love WW1 history, movies, books, etc but as a game it's just shit, at least as a BF game.

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>>32404018

based ian does it again

>>32410797
on the contrary.

>glorified land grab

>germans on one side brits on the other, on mans land in between.
>spawn as german, dug in, machine guns in place (no mobile mgs).
>fight off waves of brits to slow their advance into no mans land.
>limited amount of of respawns and npcs.
>burn through your respawns and get over run.

>spawn as brits with shit load of npcs on your side ready to butt rush the germs.
>bolt actions, grenades, and bayonets.
>brits get a limited # waves to take the german line or see how far they can get.
>every time you die you wait in the trenches till the next wave.

>npcs respond to how well you perform and respond in effectiveness accordingly.
>switch sides, brits entrenched and germs butt rushing.

>winner declared by who got closer to their enemy's line/captured the enemy's line.

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I thought this was a thread on /pol/ for a second, I know there is alot of cross over but this was a thread about the weapons used in the game vs. the ones actually used in the war. It WAS NOT about "MUH BLACK PEOPLE SINGLEHANDLY BUILT WESTERN CIVILIZATION" meme that you have on /pol/

>>32406946
the sad underrated truth of ww1

Wish I could have a bolt action on the assault class. Games fucking shit with full autos everywhere. Also tanks are super op

>>32405027
You say go back to /pol/ like that's an insult anymore.

>>32411161
They could do what Red Orchestra does but in a WWI setting.

That would be fun, you could base matches on interesting or obscure aspects of the war like the Battle of the Somme around the Hawthorn Ridge Redoubt where they blew up those trenches or retaking Fort Douaumont in Verdun.

Shit you could do the Seige of Tsingtao or if you really want Americans in it, Battle of Bellaeu woods is a famous battle or Saint Mihel.

So much potential, unfounded

>>32410869
Eh, EA is lazy as fuck. I'm not mad because I stopped buying their shit years ago.

>>32411683
Verdun is more or less a RO clone in WW1. Nothing like storming the trenches in your gas mask.

>>32404585
I would buy that game.

>>32411718
Verdun doesn't have the scale of RO though, it would be a bitch to develop maps and then factions for each map, if Tripwire made a WWI game they'd probably just stick with the British and the French on the Entente side.

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>>32411161
not too far from BF1 Operations mode actually.

>>32405699
Weird they didn't start there, but there is a French DLC coming that has been planned forever.

>>32411161
Literally Verdun except at the end of each assault the roles switch.

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>>32410797
>Make it free-to-play
>2 teams ~ 60-100 players per team
>before spawn choose class/designation/vehicle
>free players Get basic bolt foot troop/basic planes/basic tanks/shitty artillery
Free players are the cannon fodder who get gunned down 5 sec into a bayonet charge.
>paying players Get to man mg's, an officer class, better planes, better tanks, better artillery, better weaponry, access to first aid and off-map support a la Verdun
>one either voted for or randomly chosen player on each team takes the role of commander
>the commander can direct player artillery support, special superweapon spawns (like the behemoths in battlefield 1), and call In off screen air strikes and artillery barrages if a squad or battalion requests fire support
>every player on each team receives orders from their respective commander: coordinates to go, warnings of incoming artillery, objectives to attack/defend, etc
>it is the officers duty to enforce the commanders orders by shooting deserters or disobedients, thus causing much longer respawn times
>if an officer is not placed in a squad, a player will be randomly chosen to become one
>officers are the squads only link to the commander for fire support, so they have slightly longer respawn times than the foot soldiers; therefore encouraging the protection of the officer

>>32405081
Bedouins, as well as Kurds and my native Armenians, all look pretty damn white. Hell, my ancestors are literally Caucasian in the sense that they're from the Caucasus region.

I have a lot of issues with Battlefield 1's historical accuracy, but race is not one of them. Is the number of black and Indian soldiers disproportionate? Somewhat, though they did certainly exist. The whole "hurr durr WWI was 110% white, DICE are just politically correct SJW fags" thing is just /pol/'s manufactured outrage. You faggot are no better than Tumblr.

>>32413473
>>32411161
This anon has the right idea
>each team has ai foot soldier bots to supplement the ranks of the players, creating a giant scale and scope of a battle
>map is a giant rectangle
>each team has 3 fall back- defensive points the other team has to override
I'm thinking 3 command posts per defensive line to control
Total control of the all three command posts is total control of the defensive line UNLESS the opposite team controls one or more of the attacking teams cp's.
>each line is separated my a "no man's land" of sorts.
It's essentially like operations from buttfield 1, but more grandiose

>>32413559
So the game verdun but with more players?

>>32413585
I got Verdun but there's nobody online to play.
So I've never really played Verdun.

>>32409503
>used a lot of their colonial troops
In a conflict of millions the french fielded 40,000 tops, and most were just support.

>>32413704
I'm guessing you play at night like myself.
>glory days of verdun are at an end

>>32410870
>finally get to leave fob
>transport blown up by IED
>leg gone
>arm gone
>constant EEEEEEEEE
>wife and wife's son Tyrone come to visit you in the VA
>divorce papers
>alcohol and prescription pills till screen fades to black
>game over.

>>32405096
> he doesn't know about Harlem hell fighters
>he doesn't know that there were thousands of Indians serving the British military
>laughing girls.png

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>>32404001
THESE FAGGOTS FUCKED IT UP!!!!!!

FUCKING POLITICAL CORRECTNESS CELEBRATING KEKS

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>32410634
Signficant is a meaningless term in this case, how many soldiers are insignficant?


Regardless, going by casualty figures on the assumption that they provide a rough estimate on the proportion of soldiers:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_I_casualties

Britain and colonies lost 744,000 soldiers, incluiding labourer casutlies the colonies lost 140,000, the number of soldiers the colonies lost isn't listed, nor is the number of white colonialsits in the 140k figure, but at the barest minimum you should be seeing 4 white faces for every black from the largest colonial empire.

>>32410634

>both sides fielded significant numbers of colonial troops during the war, even Germany.

The Germans fielded no native infantry units on the Western Front.

>>32414661
>The Germans fielded no native infantry units on the Western Front.

bullshit

>>32414601
>Whining about soldiers skin color while countrys like russia and france arent in the game and gameplay dosent even resemble ww1.

>>32414681
Err, except that's true.

The Schutztruppen was Germany's Legio Africanus, it saw combat only in the african theatre and was the last part of the German army to officially surrender. German high command never wanted to deploy these troops to Europe because Africans were better at fighting in hot climates(for obvious reasons) and even if they had wanted to, it would have been a logistical nightmare and not worth the effort.

Stop talking shite.

DICE works like this:

>One prototype was used by some moron during the war
>Oh let's include that shit into the game and make it normal.

It's like putting bows and swords into a WW2 game because of that English guy that carried one into battle for no fucking reason.

>>32414681
Their native troops were fighting in the East African Campaign, why the hell would they try and get them through the RN blockade unsunk to provide only a few thousand reinforcements in battles of a million or more a piece when they were tying up ten times their number of allied troops in Africa?

>>32414706
>It's like putting bows and swords into a WW2 game because of that English guy that carried one into battle for no fucking reason.

And he got a confirmed kill with it, might I add

>>32414687
>complain about A
>must fine about B in a thread that started with people slagging off B and everyone agreed that was shit

>>32414651
To be fair the British empire would show 2 whites 1 Indian and 1 black if classes were balanced, but the medics (sepoys) and scouts (blacks on every team except Italian and Turks iirc) have been op from pretty much the start and support was borderline useless, so assault is one of the only "white" classes picked with any amount of regularity

>>32403982
It's literally only the Scout class, and it's intended to make the average player despise them even more for being useless, lazy, nowhere near the front line, and yet still claiming the majority of the credit for a victory.

>>32414706
If they weren't allowed the creative license to create an alternate timeline where obscure prototype firearms entered standard issue it would be an exceptionally boring video game.

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>>32403993
I dont mention it, I play it. Pretty much the only game I play these days. Fukken based game. Best game of the last 5 years, even disregarding my WW1 nerd-ism

>>32410797
go play verdun and report back. Its realistic AND extremely fun gameplay wise

>>32413704
Try changing servers. There's pretty much always a full couple of maps at any given time.

>>32405699
>>32413437

People buying into the DLC bullshit is why we don't get completed games on release day.

>>32406946
>World War One was pointless
When will this die.....

>>32415088
Four Empires straight up ceased to exist after WWI, and another four died after WWII. Every single death was worthwhile for the progress and prosperity we as a species now enjoy. That's why we remember the dead, because they died for a very good fucking reason.

>>32406946
>>32415088

They died knee deep in mud, stuck in a trench with no way out.

>>32415146
We are now experiencing the single most affluent, peaceful, safe, and prosperous period in the history of our species thanks to their sacrifices. Literally every single quantifiable and measurable statistic is at an absolute peak with no sign of ever slowing down. Claiming that they somehow died for no reason is utterly, utterly despicable.

>>32404499
We need to get normies into Project Reality
>tfw shooting L86 brits with a SMLE

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>>32414681

>Defending a stupid fantasy Steampunk FPS made by Swedish cuckolds

>>32404499
Why are you taking issue with "historical revisionism" in a product that said it was a fictional portrayal of an alternate timeline from the very beginning? Do you also write autistic rants online about The Man In The High Castle for incorrectly portraying the outcome of the second world war?

And? You don't measure or not a war had a 'point' based on how unpleasant it was for individual soldiers. Pretty much any war you can think of has a point, I can't think of any that haven't.
World War One had very definite aggressors and those defending against them, it's pretty obvious it wasn't 'point'.

>>32415231
Don't bother, most of the people who pull out the 'muh historical revisionism' line are beyond hope. They can't seem to grasp that it's a video game, not a general consensus amongst historians that is widely accepted.
Might as well get mad at wolfenstein.

>>32404499
>historical revisionism, no ones changing your fucking history you sad fucking europoor. It's a vidorra game not a textbook

>>32415263
Meant for >>32415146

>>32415035
Artillerie Luger is King of close quarters

>>32415270
Different anon, "Historical Revisionism" is the fucking problem. We know that its a video game and that its mainly just made up shit to sell.

However we are at a point where kids will play this and grow up thinking "That's how WWW1 was fought" its come to a point where people are injecting political bias's into games (Everyone was black and ethnically diverse). Hell there is a game that's coming out (or if it is out i have no idea) That actually has Dialog that tells the player that Europe has always been multi cultural and ethnically diverse and that its a fantasy that Europe was "all white".

>>32415414
Except for the part where the instant said child picks up a book, reads a wikipedia article, or watched a documentary, they will instantly understand that a video game is just a video game. Kind of like how every other human being alive is smart enough to know that video games aren't real.

Stop looking for things to be annoyed by. It's not healthy. Again, as people have said, it's literally one out of four classes that's black. That's 25% of the roster as non-whites which is a pretty fair representation of the Western Front when you consider that it was by far the most ethnically diverse place on the face on the earth for a good four years.

>>32414594
>Harlem hell fighters
Interesting, I had no idea they fought for the Germans too. Thanks for Correcting the Record!

Regardless of whether you like it or not, World War One was fought almost exclusively by Caucasian, European males. You cannot debate this, it's fact.

>>32415424

You put far too much faith in modern youth. I've already encountered a number of people (most in their early 20s) who think that BF1 is an accurate representation of WWI and think I'm the idiot for thinking otherwise. Even when I was in school WWI was pretty much entirely glossed over. We spent a few days talking about poison gas, trench foot, the Red Baron and how America saved everyone's asses. The subject of History in American schools is a fucking joke and it's only getting worse.

Society in general is going to shit. Just look at all the braindead Kanye West fans who think he's helping to launch the career of an up and coming artist named Paul McCartney.

>>32415480
And you have far too little faith because you're a grognard looking for something to get mad about. If you weren't taught the subject in school maybe you should start writing letters to your Congressman and tell them to push some kind of education reform bill through instead of arguing about a video game on the internet.

>>32415424

>Except for the part where the instant said child picks up a book, reads a Wikipedia article, or watched a documentary, they will instantly understand that a video game is just a video game. Kind of like how every other human being alive is smart enough to know that video games aren't real.

Have you ever talked to people? People don't read books, Most fuckers get their information from Clickbait crap on Facebook nowadays. That is the sad reality we live in.

I person I talk to managed to convince his group of friends that fucking Coconuts are actually an animal similar to a sea anemone that Sift nutrients out of the air through their husk fibers.

>>32415497
Except for the part where each and every person in this thread had the nous to research and learn about the very subject that you're saying people don't bother to research or learn.

>>32415487

Have you looked at what they teach now because of Common core?

The biggest events in the 20th century according to some common core textbooks are:

>League of nations
>Formation of israel
>A Feminists magazine

No list of WW1 or WW2, A completely ignoring the Cold war

>>32415509
We all know that Battlefield 1 is made up steampunk bullshit, We've already established this.

>>32415509

/k/ is a bubble though, everyone here is predisposed towards the subject and as such has a much greater chance of having done some research o at least having a passing interest in the subject. /k/ is not a representation of the general population.

>>32415414
Oh do fuck off. What's changed? Before video games they learnt what was effectively bullshit from comic books, or bullshit from people who'd never been there or seen it.
It's no different, there's never been a period where the newest generation would gain mass experience to history through unbiased, historically sound sources.
The kids that play it and don't follow it up, wouldn't bother learning about the history anyway, so no loss. The few that are interested will bother looking deeper and hopefully end up learning something closer to what happened, again, if not, it's not a problem, professional historians exist for a reason.
>>32415480
>society is going to shit
>today's youth are morons
Said every person over 25 for all of history. That has ALWASY been the case. actually fuck it, no, we live in a time where more people have access to books, reading, information, education etc than at any point in human history.
You appear to have Rose tinted glasses hot glued to your stupid, nostalgia addled head.
>>32415497
See above.
>>32415520
In the West there very, very few schools that don't touch on the First or Second World Wars.
Anyway, you're under the hr mistaken assumption that children take history at school for anything other than the briefest general knowledge about a few subjects, they can't teach everything.

>>32415583

Except that instead of people broadening their education from different views and sources we have people that block all information about topics that don't fit their political viewpoints and only indulge in information that reinforces their views.

>we live in a time where more people have access to books, reading, information, education etc than at any point in human history.

And instead of going through all of it they pick a few things that a lines with their beliefs and block out the rest.

>In the West there very, very few schools that don't touch on the First or Second World Wars.

Go look at Common Core. That is what's being taught and it is nothing more than indoctrination to get people to view things in one very specific way.

>>32415583
It doesn't matter that information is more accessible now more than ever if fewer and fewer people actually avail themselves to it. And while you are correct that most schools do touch on World War 1 and 2, that is about all they do, is touch on it. I think out WW1 unit lasted all of a few days when I was in highschool, and while WW2 was longer, 90% of it was about the Holocaust. The Korean war was never even mentioned and the Vietnam only in passing, and this was in the early 2000s.

Yes, I went out of my way to learn about military history, but I've lost count of the times that people have asked me if I was a Nazi lover or something becasue I knew so much about WW2, and that's from people in my own age group. Most people gain their information from social media now a days, and the really sad part is that that's the only way they are even interested in gaining information. People ask me how I know so much on a subject and I tell them I read books about it and they look at me like I have two heads. And don't get me started when I bring up facts about foreign countries or events happening around the world. It's a sad day when being an informed person makes you a weirdo.

>>32403956
Not entirely true...the mondragon saw air service.

>>32414681
Did you think native in this context meant german natives fighting where they are native (europe)?

I mean that's an understandable but still dumb fuck up, the alternative is you are too dumb to live and should kys.

>>32415424
People should absolutely attempt to keep others aware of the truth.

>wikipedia
Are you fucking stupid?

The main medium of "education" can always change, and whoever controls it can control what people believe is true. Stupid people that don't research anything and just believe what they are told ARE NOT HARMLESS. They can still hold a gun, pull a trigger, drive a truck.

It is a civic, if unsavory, duty to point out bullshit if people are believing it.

>>32415642
Your point? Most people have ALWAYS been ignorant of most of history, that trend is just continuing. You're getting angry over NOTHING.
>they keep cherry picking what they believe
Oh, the irony. Additionally, what's new? That's always been the case.
And you can keep cherry picking common core as much as you like. No school child is never exposed to either the First or Second World War.
>>32416048
>they only briefly touch on it
And? Honestly, actually learning history, the subject, isn't about coming facts into your head, it's teaching you a way of thinking about and looking at things. To that end it almost doesn't matter what period of history they teach. You just seem to be annoyed that they don't cover a subject you personally love.
>People are less and less informed
>People gain their knowledge from social media
If you truly did find history interesting it would have twigged by now that people really don't change that much. Today a lot of people learn debatable stuff from social media. A hundred years ago they'd have heard debatable stuff from their social media, it's just that that media would have been from Dave down the pub, or a work colleague or a relative. It's was no less bullshit than some Facebook story.
>It's as that they're only interested in gaining information from social media
Why? Before social media the type of people who don't hear would have just not bothered or read it from 'newspapers' who specialises in sensationalising or spurious stories.
Really, people aren't any different now than they have ever been, I'd you did enough. Most people have cared more about pretty basic stuff than the intricacies of history since we've been able to speak and write. That number hasn't gotten any larger.

>>32416334
>it's ok for people to be deliberately mislead
>don't fight it
>it's always been this way
>nothing bad will happen
>DON'T FIGHT IT

>>32416282
>They can still hold a gun, pull a trigger, drive a truck.
Yes, but mostly they'll be bumbling around like farting, eating, fucking human skittles doing absolutely nothing of any consequence.

>>32416357
t. middle east

>>32416357
t. africa

>>32416351
It's not ok, but it is inevitable. If you honestly think that more than a small minority of people give a shit about history, actually proper history, then more power to you, but you're living in a fantasy world.

>>32416357
t. homegrown terrorists

>>32416357
t. idiots who riot in defense of real criminals and not real victims

>>32416357
t. china's sheeple that could easily take their country back if they all tried

>>32403993

because no one cared about verdun until BF1 got announced.
Because it was fucking boring and showed people that a realistic WW1 shooter would be shit.

>>32416357
t. WE WUZ

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>>32404507
Thanks for the disclaimer. I was ready to fukkin fite u m8.

>>32416357
t. law makers who made broad definition of antisemitism (including any critique of modern israel) illegal in US universities and the entire United Kingdom

Yeah, make sure you don't exercise that freedom of speech shit.

>>32416520
>antisemitism

ok welp it was a good thread but now we've reached the end

>>32416427
I think the small minority who go out of their way to KNOW should also go out of their way to make sure the idiots aren't used as a weapon by those who go out of their way to MISLEAD.

>>32416532
You're a fucking coward.

>>32416357
It's easier to protect a population from lies designed to manipulate them than to have to fight even a portion of the consequences of their manipulation.

Vaccinate now instead of cure later. How is this a hard concept, how could you think doing nothing is correct?

These widespread lies and attempts at revising history are nothing short of social disease, we must fight if we want that society that we are part of to exist.

>>32416549

you're*

>>32416435
>>32416461
>>32416474
>>32416487
>>32416520
Ouch, went full retard there didn't we.
>>32416538
You'll never reach the people you progress to want to educate and judging by the level of historical idiocy in this thread, you wouldn't do a better job than Dice anyway.

>>32414773
Like RO2, right?

Nah, an entirely different combat that isn't rush around mindlessly with smgs and semi autos clicking on whatever you see and hoping you have the better gun or faster reflexes would be a good thing. They had a chance to make unique combat and said nah, cowadooty style action makes money.

>>32404128
>be me
>be in 9th grade
>teacher asks why castle walls became obsolete
>answer is catapults
>girl raises hand and answers helicopters

>>32416656
Spoiler: fast paced is fun is what most gamers want.

>>32416668
Well, helicopters is only slightly more wrong than catapults.

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>>32403956
What triggers me the most is that the RSC 1917 a semiautomatic rifle that actually saw combat and had over 80,000 units made is completely absent in l-game

This game is just Forgotten Weapons: Battlefield Edition.

>>32403993
I got about 70 hours in it but I have no interest in playing it now

>>32414773
What "creative license" did they take here exactly? Take a unique era of combat and warfare not often explored in video games and made like every other fucking game they ever made? It's just like every other modern shooter now. What they did was the exact opposite of creative.

>>32416668
>answer is catapults
What?

>>32416680
And what battlefield literally made their fucking reputation and fanbase on has been cast aside so they can copy the least innovating game ever that releases a skin pack for 60$ every year.

>>32410870
>>32414591
You've just described squad for the most part

>>32408776
Martini Henry

>>32416613
That's what they wrote, idiot.

>>32416632
You're the only deficient (or malevolent) one if you think giving up is the way to go.

>>32416668
Real answer is gunpowder you shitter. That and standing armies.

>>32403993
Verdun would be fun if gas attacks were actually useful. They are Fucking pointless

>>32403982
>boohoo, they we're in the first and shortest mission, im so upset

>>32416754
Yeah, that's unfortunate and all, but they're a company, not your personal entertainment service. Playerbases change, deal with it.
>>32416821
>Being a realist and recognising that trying to get the majority of people into academic levels of history would be like smacking your head off of a brick wall is 'giving up'.
Well if that's what you want to call it, then fine.

>>32405527
There were blacks from the French and English colonies fighting in WW1 too, more than just a few..

>>32414413
>get off work at 2 am
>play until 7-8 am
>sleep until work
Sucks

>>32403993
Because it's a terrible game and not worth mention.

>>32416603
>Representing history to suit your owns needs is a disease
>We need to preserve our society
It's part of our society, even normal people don't agree with each over historical topics. This thread shows that alone.
>how could you think doing nothing is correct
There isn't anything to do. Historians will continue to try to tease apart history and represent it as truly as possible, that hasn't changed, it won't. You're just not going to tap the general populace into it, it's boring to them, they will never be interested.

>>32403956
Glad I'm still playing Bad Company 2.

you're all a bunch of faggots

>>32414594
The Brits did field a lot of Indians, but mostly in the middle east and Africa.

>>32414709
After the war he moved to Australia and became a surfer.

>>32410797
Every game if realistic would be absolutely shit.
Also you're acting as if WW1 was the only war in history to have very long waiting period before the action, anyway all games show the time in which there is actual fighting rather that the time waiting before the fighting.

>>32406946
>The WW1 was pointless meme
WW1 completely shaped the world as we know it today, it was the most important war since the Hundred Days. If WW1 was pointless, then why not say the same about every other war ever fought as well?

>>32404544
That guy was a faggot

>>32413473
>wanting pay to win
so pretty much what the game is now but everyone is paying.

>>32419741
That doesn't change the fact that it was a four-year exercise in futility for its combatants. Hell, much of its influence on the world was a direct result of it being a useless, drawn out clusterfuck.

>>32420787
Contrary to popular belief the tactics used were were completely viable for the conditions that there were in. Even if the combat was futile with little territory change it doesn't mean a thing because of the significant result at the end of the war.
Also only the western front (specifically in the years of late 1914 - late 1917) in which trenches were used to such a wide extent

>>32404017
>War is Hell
>Experience Somme recreationally

As many people will take interest and actually learn there will be infinitely more who do not.

>But muh colonial troops
That was pretty much only France who used non-white colonial troops on the Western Front. Britain used some Indian troops on the Western Front for small amount of time in the early war, but quickly sent them to other fronts instead.

Seriously, France is the only country I know of that used non-white colonial troops in Europe on a mass scale. For everyone else if they had any non-white colonial troops, those would massively be the exception and not even close to the rule.

>>32405201
oh look, a fellow italian soldier.

>>32420886
I'm well aware that there was more to the war than a muddy stalemate - though that said, a lot of the fighting even outside of that was just painfully pointless on a strategic level - Gallipoli, Jutland, etc. Lots of men and machines spent on little to no functional gain.

I'm not denying that WWI profoundly affected the world. But from the standpoint of those fighting it (with the exception of the US, to some extent), it was an entirely fruitless endeavour that physically destroyed northern France, and politically destroyed much of Europe. It was never going to accomplish anything of value for those who started it, aside from perhaps Serbia getting the territory it wanted. Kinda funny, in a way.

>>32417011
>>I never played the game the post.

Seriously who plays BF1 for the single player campaign.

You do know the vast majority of characters in the multiplayer which is what everyone plays is all black.

>>32403956
> Imagine playing realistic WW1 game
> Artilery barrage lasts for days
> Your watch how your feets rot away
> Gas
> Whistle
> Over the top
> You die

>>32405699
ted cruz really lost it after the primaries

>>32417038
THEY DON'T NEED TO BE HISTORY SCHOLARS TO BE EDUCATED ENOUGH TO RECOGNIZE BULLSHIT LIKE THIS. They just need to have some knowledge or someone willing to share with sourcing.

>>32418345
It's like you're implying that there aren't people who intentionally misrepresent history to manipulate people. That's the whole point of this discussion, we need to fight that shit.

>>32410634
This is very wrong.

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>>32416668
Hmmm this is why any woman after 12 years old should be pregnant barefoot and in the kitchen.

>>32419741
You missed the point, the war still has massive lasting impact, I was refering to the callous waste of life in combat in pointless suicidal attacks that defined much of the fighting

>>32416695
so they can sell it and the French as DLC

>>32424278
I know this is your disgusting fetish, but please keep it to yourself you weak fag.

Also no one is saying france and america didn't have more than token black troops (thought they certainly didn't have the numbers shown ingame). It's more how half or more the germans you see in a match are black.

As always, we're talking about MP not SP (no one cares about SP, even though it is a shitshow too).

>>32424329
Are you offended because you recognize your grandmother in this picture?

>>32424351
Do you have an argument? Other than you need to watch someone else bang a woman you like to get your peepee hard?

>>32424362
Lmao did my picture need a trigger warning for you?

>>32424283
Not every one wants to be Muslim bro.

>>32424379
No, just a nigger warning.

>>32413473
After playing about 50 hours of BF1 and countless thousands of hours in other FPS games, I can safely say that giving a 'Commander' position with that much power to one average player is a recipe for disaster.

They'll either be so incompetent that you'll lose because of them, or smart enough to troll the fuck out of your own team; rarely will you be commanded by a player who is actually half decent at it.

Same goes for the Officer position, they'll just shoot at anyone not running directly at the main objectives for the fun of it, or not care and just play the game like any other FPS.

I do like the idea of pay2win, because if TF2 is anything to go by, all the free to play poorfags are fucking garbage at video games in general.

>>32424454
Commander? WTF are you talking about?

>>32424461
Did you not read the post I was responding to?

>>32424537
No, I had not.

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>>32416668
Castle walls were obsolete before they were finished.
>being a sedentary faggot

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>>32424660
>Castle walls were obsolete before they were finished.
Mongols were literally made obsolete by castle walls *with guns.*

>>32414594
>one regiment of niggers
>thousands of curryniggers
There were over one million Indians in WWI.
There were over 350k Afro americans in WWI.
There was a total of over 38 million soldiers involved in the fighting.

>1.4 million souls
>4%
>Represents 50% of the potential population of classes in-game at any time.
I would've rather had a 4% chance of being a minority.

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>>32424660
>>32424684
Also by mobile wagonforts. With guns.

>>32416680
>most
spoiler:
you don't speak for most gamers

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>>32424660
>>32424684
>>32424687
Actually, fuck it, they were made obsolete by guns. Period.

>>32415040
It's barely more realistic than any other poor representation of an event that no one alive/around anymore has lived through.
The gameplay is mediocre.
Needs more sudden death via gas/artillery and players.

>>32410590
Wait, really? Is there any link to it being taken down or something? I'd have interest in the mod, but now my interest is to know if SJWs took down a mod to make the game historically accurate. I mean, there are mods for games that make all female characters nude, and others that allow adult interactions with lolis. I'd like to think there are bigger fish to fry on the SJW agenda than undermining history...

>>32410870
At least arma gets close with it's two hours of setup time for every three minutes of firefight.

Imagine if Verdun was on the frostbite engine

>>32413473
>Free players are the cannon fodder who get gunned down 5 sec into a bayonet charge.
>implies bullets auto-seek f2p players
>clearly has never played RO2:The re-Jappening
Good luck with your charges, assaultnoob.

>>32410779
No they didn't and no they didn't and the names "given by the germans" to all this groups were invented by this units.

Frog-Kraut.

>>32424712
My dick

>>32424774
>M-muh Teufelhunden
t. every brainwashed Marine ever

>tfw the good guys lost in WWI

>>32424896
aside from the Ottomans this statement is correct

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>>32406946
Good luck, everyone.

>>32425406
I watched that scene over several times because it was so good.

>>32425406

Name of series?

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>>32422408
underrated post

>>32424705
Not undermining history, correcting the record!

Daily reminder that Western front wasn't even the most relevant one. Most of the killing happened in the Eastern Europe, between Germany, Austria-Hungary and Russia.

>>32403956
how many modern shooters have you played where you can use anything but a bog standard issue weapon with no down grip or fancy bullshit?

Games would be fucking dull if they were realistic, you'd shoot your way through a hundred dudes with your issue weapon, then find one guy on the opposition force with something different (assuming country v country) you'd pick it up feeling like billy big balls and be barked at by a superior that you cant just pick up weapons and use them. Then continue gunning through people with your bullshit service weapon

If you wanted it to be really realistic you would spend 99% of the game manning a bullshit position staring into space. Eventually the enemy would turn up and shoot from fuck knows where, at which point you'd fire in the general direction and they'd leave. GG 0% accuracy 0 kills no bullshit gucci weapons 10/10 country served

>>32424278
>some french commander would hate the germans so much he'd let his african troops to rape female germans

this is amusing that even the muslim units of WWII were also known for raping italian towns

>>32429594
>the ever-present "b-but it's fir fun" argument
Hey, If making a FUN game is more important than a realistic and historically accurate one, how about they make a game about something else?

O swear to G-d, they picked WWI for the stylistic novelty, and since the step 1 the setting has been going against the developers at every possible moment to the point where you start to ask "fucking why did you even decide make a WWI game?"

>>32429790
A bit drunk not sure if agreeing or not but it comes down to make a fun game or go bust. Why would a company release something fucking dull? It would be like a studio putting out a documentary-esque action film, no one really cares about the mundane realities of war, people tune in for OTT bullshit and MIcheal Bay games etc

>>32429813
THEN WHY DO THEY MAKE A WAR ABOUT WORLD WAR ONE IF IT'S NOT ABOUT WORLD WAR ONE?

>>32429970
*A GAME

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>>32410634

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blockade_of_Germany

I'd be more impressed with the German capability to get a significant number of colonial troops to Germany from Africa through a blockade enforced by several of the world's largest navies than mad if there were blacks fighting for them on the western front.

>>32430685
Get the fuck off 4chan you soft lil bitch nigga

>>32430685

Cry more, bitch nigger.

>>32403956
It's a video game, you autist. If you want historical accuracy, go buy a mauser and shoot one of your friends in the face.