CA Ban (TLDR)

>>32400375
>>Are 80% lowers safe from this?
no
theres another law forcing you to serialize and register 80%

>>32400375
>sanctuary cities giving the finger to the law
>expect anons to follow the law.

>>32400375

>banning all semi-autos

For what fucking purpose? Why do States like CA, NJ, and MA like to perpetually buttfuck their citizens? Why do people in these States put up with it instead of yelling at their government?

Whoever complies with this deserves a nigger/Muslim dick up his ass

HA! this is AWESOME
all those faggots on cuckguns bragging about not being a felon by registering just got blown the fuck out
cali dun blew their wad too early though

>>32400393
What penal code would that be?

So. Next milsurp wave to come out of commiefornia then?

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>breitbart

>>32400584
What, faggot? Would you prefer Salon or the Washington Post?

>>32400488
http://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billNavClient.xhtml?bill_id=201520160AB857

>>32400488
> penile code

>>32400393
You have to serialize an 80% lower in the entire country.

>>32400653
only if you intend to sell it

>>32400653
Sauce?

>>32400375
CA is so screwed at this point. It's a failed state, turn it back over to Mexico. They deserve each other.

Also realize, companies that rent semi-auto firearms to movie studios will have to leave the state. Can't have those things setting around after all.

>>32400653
You're wrong and this is bait or retardation

>>32400653
no you don't, even if you sell it as a one time thing you don't have to serialize it, however, california did just pass a law soon requiring all 80% guns to be serialized and if you do not come up with your own # you ahve to apply to the DOJ for one.

>>32400653
Sorry cuck. That's false.

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NorCal /k/ommandos: you know what you must do.

http://www.soj51.net/

http://tomwoods.com/ep-805-should-california-be-split-up/

>>32400790
They'll never let us go until they are either insolvent or they try something dumb (like forcible confiscation) that blows back in their faces. Or both.

>>32400696
>CA is so screwed at this point. It's a failed state, turn it back over to Mexico. They deserve each other.
Even as a piece of dried-up real estate it's still valuable. Just deport all of the illegals and half of the problems disappear overnight.

>>32400413
Because govt doesnt have to listen....

You non CA anons have to realize that the cops in CA are treated waaaaay better than in any other state. So there is no reason for cops to not enforce the laws set by the standing govt.

Example
>celebrity bodyguards in Los angeles need a ccw
>Cops are the only ones who can get ccw
>cops have monopoly of private security for the rich

The only way to unfuck california is for a billionaire to pay his way into being gov(like arnold schwarzenegger did) and completely overhaul everything to turn the state republican.

>>32400829
So are you going to fight this or just lay back and take it like you took all the other laws?

>>32400696
Its one of the worlds largest economies. Can't live with em' can't live without em'.

>>32400829
>They'll never let us go until they are either insolvent or they try something dumb (like forcible confiscation) that blows back in their faces. Or both.

Listen to the podcast I linked. They are planning on suing the state of California in federal court because these counties effectively have no representation and want to invoke article 4 section 3.

http://www.heritage.org/constitution/#!/articles/4/essays/125/new-states-clause

>>32400653
Since January of 2015, it's been a felony to import firearms into California from out-of-state unless they're registered with the local Sheriff's department upon arrival

>>32400842
Besides the shit gun laws and socialism, i wouldnt call CA a failed state. It can still produce enough food for every country in the world for 3 days, so agriculture is top tier. The lumber industry here has the highest quality trees, redwoods, for building, which we dont cut down since we can afford to import from the north. So we have self sustaining food and construction capabilities. Water wise, the problem stems from the farmers who were given unrestricted access to water and would end up selling water instead of growing crops since that is more profitable. This can be remedied by building offshore moisture farms and desalinization plants. Reason they havnt done that is there is no infrastructure in place to connect new sources to the main lines.

Im getting off topic now so ill stop

I'm not too worried. I'm not obeying those laws regardless.

>>32400990

listen to the podcast linked in

>>32400790

>>32400968
no, with the CA DoJ. You need to fill out a "New Resident Report of Firearm Ownership," and send them blood money

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>Darrell Steinberg, D-Sacramento, unveiled the gun control package in a news conference Thursday at the state Capitol.
>Darrell Steinberg
>Steinberg

nothing to see here goy move along

>>32401082
>>32400968
Also, whereas federal law simply forces dealers selling to out-of-state buyers to have them send the gun to an FFL-holder in the buyer's home state for transfer, California goes a step further, and mandates a CA-compliant FFL transfer for ANY purchase made out of state

THIS IS WHAT ANY /k/OMMANDO SHOULD DO.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zFxaCa-hr8o

>>32401251
oh no, take off the stock and grip, then ship it.

>>32401404
nice try occifer

>>32400628
He is more a mother jones , and DailyKos kinda guy

>>32401082
why do we have to pay for something that we are losing out on? we are getting the raw end of the deal by losing our rights, shouldnt they at least pay the bill with liberal tax dollars?

at what point do we mobilize in mass and intimidate them with numbers? like black lives matter, only even more numerous. can you imagine 600,000 gun owners showed up on the steps of sacramento capital for a rally demanding repeal of the law or non-compliance through civil disobedience?

>>32400409
This. If it weren't for double standards, the far left would have no standards.

>>32400413
Because they want control over their subjec- I mean, they want to protect their citizens!

>>32400474
Anyone retarded enough to register a gun voluntarily almost deserves to have their guns taken. Almost.

>>32400584
>m-muh fake news!

They're no worse than any mainstream media company, and are probably better most of the time.

>>32400652
Inspection day is tomorrow anon, hope you're ready.

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>>32401527
>can you imagine 600,000 gun owners showed up on the steps of sacramento
we couldn't even get more than 150,000 signatures over the course of a month. What makes you think that there would be anywhere near that many stuck up, self-obsessed californians dropping their oh-so-important lives to protest on a single day?

>>32400488
the one where your mother only takes black penal

>>32401597
I was gonna say that too.

I've never had the misfortune of going to Cali, but did you guys not get the signatures because of the short time limit or is CA just full of Fudds or a combo of the two?

>>32401648
i actually kinda gathered signatures. It was a bit of both, coupled with the lack of awareness. People weren't made aware of the laws, or the petitions against them; so upon hearing of one or the other they either didnt know about the petitions, or didnt know what the petitions were for and neglected to adorn them.

>>32400375
>breitbart

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>>32401527
>mobilize in mass
The flatlanders are totally cucked and s[end all their time sneering at anyone who would suggest such things on the Calguns forums.

The rural types are sheltering in place and trusting in God and their local sheriff.

Maybe someone in New Your City proper understand what it's like to be utterly disenfranchised and powerless, to be outnumbered by very wealthy people who will enthusiastically give their own government (because it sure as hell isn't yours) permission to liquidate your red-state ass. (Pic related -- I capped it so I wouldn't forget.) The rest of you can't.

In Oregon they protested; in Washington and New York. Here? There's no point. So we don't. Because it's not a bluff, and the blue state fascists *will* bring the hammer down. And a majority of the population will see nothing wrong with it. Nothing. It's Orwellian.

>>32401811
They are setting themselves to get fucked though.

>>32400413
because thats wat the voters want fucc boi

You anons have to realize that the state is practically controlled by elitist libfags in LA/SF/Sacramento. It's kind of like how NYC controls the rest of New York. It doesn't matter who or what I vote for in my little conservative enclave of Orange County. No matter what I do, the laws will be pushed through because of the sheer amount of people in the cities. The red counties north of SF have the same problem as well.

Also, if your dreams of California falling into the ocean come true, you'll still be fucked. 6th largest economy in the world, despite the socialist bullshit. Actually pays more in federal taxes than it receives. Hate on California all you want, but you can't live with it, nor can you live without it.

T. Californian.

>>32401922
OC bro? where you at? I'm 714

>>32401596
>>m-muh fake news!
>They're no worse than any mainstream media company, and are probably better most of the time.
Breitbart is literally the right's DailyKOS. Have some respect for yourself.

>>32401922

see

>>32400790

>>32401965
that has about as much chance of success as "calexit"

>>32401948
714, but if I go south about a 1 mile, I'll be in 949 land.

>>32401948
Not the guy you replied to but, Fountain Valley bro

>>32401922
>Actually pays more in federal taxes than it receives.
All their water comes from out-of-state though.

>>32401811
don't you like little anime boys? i vaguely remember something like that.

>>32401983
well shit, where do you shoot at?

>>32401984
fuu, all my so-cal bros are coming out of the woodwork. what ranges do you usually hit up?

>>32400375
Will it be legal to buy something like an SKS or Mosin in CA next year?

How does the law work for sales across the border? (ex: I go to Arizona to buy a fun, then take it back to CA). Just some general info would be great.

>>32401977
>that has about as much chance of success as "calexit"

No, they actually have a plan that has a chance of working. The Calexit people a Bernie Sanders morons. The Jefferson secessionists plan is to sue the state of California in a federal court becasue the counties making up Jefferson are basically completely ruled over by the people in SoCal. They are arguing that their representation is being diluted and that they are entitled to either a state senator for every county in the state or should be allowed to invoke article 4 section 3 of the constitution and become their own state.

>>32402029
bolt actions are unaffected for now. SKS will be fine

>>32402060
well shit, i'm moving north. If that goes through, then NorCal woudl be a libertarian paradise, weed and guns!

>>32402001
I've actually never been to a range in California. I was nogunz until I went to school in Arizona, so I've moved there for the time being. My guns are in AZ, and they include an uncucked AR15 and various off-roster pistols. I'll probably be moving back here after I graduate.

What ranges should I be going to in Orange County?

>>32402077
Bolt action rifles are all that I'm really interested in, but what about something like an AK clone? Illegal to own in CA if bought out of state in 2017?

>>32400375
Thank God I took my buddies offer to move to Oregon with him, although I feel like I fled for comfy gun laws and uncucked mags instead of staying and fighting in Commiefornia, oh well.

On a different note, let me rant about those cucks at CalGuns for a sec, when will those retards realize that we will never, NEVER win in the courts?

>>32402077
If i built my sks from some sort of 80 lower, does that mean i don't have to register it?

>>32402285
I know you're just trying to fuck with people, but that was actually pretty funny.

Why would ANYONE EVER register their guns voluntarily?

You plan on the police searching your house or something?

>>32401811
I have family that is convinced that California will not only survive, but win in a civil war since our "money will protect us" and because other countries would still buy our movies so we can afford to import everything we will need.

>>32400409
People are not guns

Part of the problem here, in California, is all the people out of state not willing to help us fight.
>let them rot
>fuck them they deserve it
But they are quick to say
>it's their fault
>they influenced places

We need solidarity among states and 2a groups.

>>32402452
What should someone across the country do?

Whine harder?

>>32402100
Not the same anon but I'm still 714, I go to an indoor range called Insight, and outdoors I go to Raahauges.

>>32402452
And what are they supposed to do?

>>32402468
>>32402476
Show support and not just hate. Help us throw pro-gun rallies. Try to educate liberals instead of insult them. Otherwise I don't know. I'm just as upset as everyone else about this shit.

>>32402565
I'm from VA, you definitely have my sympathy. Can't really support shit like the NRA without opening a can of worms of shitty politics.

>>32401922
>>32401948
South County reporting in fellow OC bros. I feel your pain...

>>32402452

>Part of the problem here, in California, is all the people out of state not willing to help us fight.

Can't fight state level battles for you
Also can't divert funds because other states are busy fighting the cancer exported by your state

Online sales in Nevada are defacto ban after the new year due to the legal conflict in the new transfer process
Mag Cap regulations are now being pushed here as well because of the previous 'success' of less than 1%

>>32402688
We all need to educate noguns better. We need to push the laws to the highest courts if we must. And quit fighting across state lines about this shit.

>>32400409
Whites in California are cucked to levels that shouldn't even be possible. They will follow all laws while their Jewish overlords follow none.

>>32402452

California is a lost cause, gun owners in the state cant even sign a petition, pathetic display.

http://www.guns.com/2016/09/28/veto-gunmageddon-petitions-fail-to-gather-enough-signatures/


Good news for America is more ammo and guns for us, ur all on ur own, you reap what you sow.

>>32402788
When they come for you (and they will) don't look for help or sympathy. These types are a disease.

>>32402830
>When they come for you (and they will) don't look for help or sympathy.

Trust us, California has helped enough, please stop helping

>>32400375
>banning semiautomatics

TRUMP WHERE THE FUCK ARE YOU?! SAVE US ALREADY!

If the feds can force an assault weapons ban, the feds can also force a repeal of all assault weapons bans.

>>32400375
it's not gonna pass.

>>32400696
You better believe the Jews will except themselves from the law, they always do. It's not called the JEWdicial system for nothing.

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How does this not violate the 2nd amendment? why are californians so cucked? Is it just the shitty cities making all of the laws?

>>32403027
systematic integration of all the things the fed didnt want them to have to pacify them when they blatantly defile the constitution

CA is literally approaching southern revolt levels of defying the federal government and constitution

>>32403027
>Right to bear firearms.
>Ban on semiautos.
>Shotguns and pistols still readily available and obviously considered firearms.
There is no violation, just a ban on specific classification.

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>>32403027
>Is it just the shitty cities making all of the laws?
Yes

t. Jefferson

>>32402830

Been hearing this since the early 90's (oldfag confirmed) still waiting for them to push this cali style crap on me..........hahaha ain't happening

>>32403099

It's happening in Nevada. They just passed a CA-style background check law and are pushing for a mag cap ban.

>>32401648
nobody knew about it. short time, the NRA left us high and dry so some random people had to start a grassroots website and everything. only had a month to get the signatures in the entire fucking state.

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Wondering how much my mp 15 sport can make as i won't be living in CA soon.

>>32403114

nope

https://www.nraila.org/gun-laws/state-gun-laws/nevada/

>>32402972
Trump can't do anything for California, they're going to build a wall to keep him out

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tfw i bought the same type of shit used by the san bernardino jihadis a month before they decided to disappoint pedesta for not being white enough

>>32401597
from the funds at my funstore, we only managed to get 100k signatures of the 300k signatures that we needed. Though apparently 500k were submitted so something seems really fishy there if you ask me

>>32400628
>WP

Honestly, yea.

>>32401597
I didn't even hear about it until its too late. Its like you think the majority of CA gun owners go to gun stores.

>>32402100
Why would you move back?

>>32403360
Honestly I think it was a lack of education, awareness, and the accidental mishandling of signatures. Not a lot of places had enough volunteers or experienced sig gatherers. So its entirely likely that there were large amounts of fuckups.

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>>32403398

This. SoCal anon here. I know about eight gunstores near me--and of those, I'd like to say five of that number get most of their business from customers who buy their shit online and have pretty much the same battered used shotguns and sporterized milsurp on the store racks day in and day out.

Y'see the gun-loving community here in SoCal (that I've seen anyway) isn't exactly a community. We're just a bunch of idiots with a common hobby. Sure, we talk about it with folks who we meet on the daily, but there isn't a real, tangible sort of movement if you want to look on the state-wide perspective. Plus, the state is so big and the cities are so spread out once you get outside of the big city centers like LA or San Fran or San Diego that it's hard to build up any sort of momentum from the ground-up.

So it should come as no wonder why we can't get our shit together, organize, and do something.

>>32401987
Not really. I know my county is pretty self reliant when it comes to water.

>>32403099
>what is 1994 awb?

>>32403084
>There is no violation, just a ban on specific classification.
Reminder that under the Heller decision, you CANNOT ban an entire class of weapons in common use.

Someone from the NRA HAS to fucking go to Pres-Elect Trump, get him to install pro-2A SCOTUS Justices now, and then we fast-track this entire bullshit law with a lawsuit within his term.

Also, can't Trump do a "You can't ban these guns anymore, California" law?

>>32400375
What is that aesthetic shit written on the stock?

>>32403539
"hezbollah"

>>32403441
>on /k/
>didn't know about this
This is why gun owners in California get fucked. Most are self-righteous fucks that won't even do anything with the NRA. And then they complain when new laws get passed or initiatives get started by other gun owners.

>>32400375
>semiautomatic ban
Why doesn't anyone sue the state of California yet?

>>32400413
mjust be all the immigrants

>>32403550
>inform the state that you intend to sue the state
>state reviews your case and says you have no standing
>you appeal, the government thinks it over and agrees with itself, you have no standing
>lather, rinse, repeat, until you no longer have enough money to appeal to a high enough court that isn't cali-cucked

>>32403661
>what is SAF/GOA/NRA?
>what is going to be a TRUMP SCOTUS?

>>32403661
fed might call it unconstitutional, especially now that we have a secured supreme court thanks to electing Donald Trump.

Thank God we elected Donald Trump, it's already paying off.

Those revisionist justices Hillary would have appoitned scared the shit out of me.

>>32402115
>comfy gun laws and uncucked mags
Not for long

>>32401948
Hello, fellow OC-er stranded in this shitty state. If you can, get out!!

>>32403246
Too late, deadline to buy and dros any gun that will be considered an "assault weapon" was yesterday. And stripped lowers and featureless rifles will remain unaffected.

>>32400653
nope. I live in a free state
>>32400990
>water wise blah blah
doesn't cali import almost all it's water?
there goes your food then
>>32401922
explain why "moderate" Californians bring their bullshit laws with them whenever they infect a new state

>>32403759
doesn't cali import almost all it's water?
Only for socal

>>32403668
we're going to crush these commie rats

>>32400375
>hurr a leader of a gun rights group tells Breitbart the commies in CA would ban all guns given the chane
Wow, news at 6.

>>32401948
>>32401983
>>32402594
>>32403725
y'all niggas don't know the half of it.

LA County reporting.

>>32403811
That's wrong. Most of the Central Valley, where most of the agricultural production comes from in California, needs water from outside the state. Without out-of-state water, California's GDP would get fucked up hard.

>No one is trying to ban your guns, they said
>80% lowers will always be an option, anons said

Top. Kek.

If 80%s get banned why not just start selling 75%s? Or 79%s?

>>32404046
0%ers

Underground CNC services

>>32400413
I can't speak about the cuckening in CA/NJ, but here in MA we have a massive 20k+ community known as North East Shooters and a few other leagues of gun owners just in MA. They all yell and make a shitload of noise and protest, you just never hear about it and nobody cares. I went to a few. That said, I moved to NH and have been much happier since.

>>32403534
That case law had nothing to do with specific firearms. It was challenging the validity of having a firearm for self-defense purposes.

Keep it mind, the ban on MSRs (with a bullet button) classification was for public safety, and the legislation will spiel that over and OVER again in whatever court of appeals they wander into.

The reason they're doing it doesn't make it right, but that's how they're swinging it - all over the media, in the hearts and minds of the people, and it's giving the impression that it's for the "greater good".

how long until California crumbles away into the ocean due to drought/earthquakes/fires? It seems to be a failure as an artificial state.

>>32401922
Orange county went blue this fall. And not by a small margin either.

You guys can no longer call yourselves a conservative enclave.

>>32403084
Actually it is a violation because it makes the militia less effective

>>32404046
They cannot realistically ban 80% lowers. It would be essentially banning gun shaped peices of metal.

>>32403888
>water from outside the state
Nice trips, but could you point me to some source?
Not trying to disprove you, just legitimately interested.
All mentions I found of importing water talked about LA or SoCal bringing in water from other parts of the state, not from outside.

>>32403099
And Nevada would never consider these laws either.

>>32400790
>State of Jefferson
>Oregon Part 2
You're just going to be giving the democrats 2 more free electors.

>>32400375
/k/ should start state flags so we can keep the no guns states in their own threads.

>>32403866
>California hasn't been trying to ban guns for decades!!!!!!!
>FAKE NEWS!!!!!
How deep up your ass do you usually keep your head?

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>>32403866
This is a real quote from a commiefornia politician

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>>32404994

>>32405510
What is this? A map for ants?

Holy god you fucking morons didn't even read the article. It's clickbait.

The "source" the in the headline is a guy that runs a lobbying group.

>He said, “These laws are the tip of the iceberg here in California. We expect they are going to introduce legislation to totally ban semi-automatic long guns in California."

>We expect

>>32404807
What do you think a gun is?
In the end, all gun restrictions are bans on gun shaped pieces of metal, some more detailed than others.

>>32405494
TAR AND FEATHER
Well not really
But you get the idea.

>>32405811
It's a battle they cannot win is what I am trying to say.

They will eventually end up banning blocks of aluminum in the approximate dimensions of an AR lower. Its rediculous.

>>32401987
Mostly water for the megalopolises and agribiz in the valley. The rural counties in the north are self sufficient. Struggling mightily to keep it that way, too. Cities want our water real bad, but they can't figure out how to make us pay for the aqueducts.

Build a wall around California

tfw i like fudd shit so not butthurt about the ban

>>32404046
thats not how 80% works. 80% is not a legal term dumbass, its a marketing term. ATF only sees a gun, or a non gun. they dont see a 85% gun or 73% gun

>>32400790
I would love to live there.

>>32400375
>breitbart
>IT'S HAPPENING
>our source "suggests" it "might" happen
Great article. I like how Breitbart perpetually toes the line between legitimate reporting and clickbait blogger fake news.

>>32407756
If nothing else, it's a wake up call. We need to be up on these types of laws. Don't let the gun grabbers grab the guns. Teach moderates and liberals to enjoy and not fear guns. Show fudds that we share a common interest and when one is affected, we all are.

>>32404788
ca conservative breh LUL

>>32400413

Because CA, NJ, NY, etc. are where all the liberals live. This is what they want. They out-number any local conservatives by a huge margin.

>>32400842
>Just deport all of the illegals and half of the problems disappear overnight.
Wrong, you'd still have to eliminate the legislature. And the majority of the whites in cities. Pretty much everyone in the cities would have to not exist, for CA to be politically unfucked. But that would fuck us economically even if it were possible. I almost wish Calexit will happen so CA can be taken back by force and reconstituted anew.