HK USP

Love my USP, glocks are for niggers.

Oh darling it destroys the G19.

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>>32397950
>>32397993
>HK fags can't justify their purpose with an explanation beyond "it's just better"!

>>32397943
>compact
>.45 ACP
Don't do that.

>>32398093
Purchase* auto correct

>>32397950
>>32397993
>>32398093
>>32398112
>ITT: Kids

>>32398093
Glock recommended spring maintenance: 4,000 rounds

HK P30/USP recommended spring maintenance: 25,000 rounds

Only advantage glocks have is weight, and they're only that light because the guide rod, sights, and all controls are plastic.

>>32397943
I got a USP C for 400 bucks. If you stalk the auction sites long enough you'll find good deals that would make the purchase undeniable.

Git gud son.

>>32397943
Go hold them both and see. And then buy one with the LEM light trigger

>>32398130
>waaah plastic is baaaad
Shoot yourself.

>>32398130

Also a normal accessory rail on Glocks.

>>32398144
>LEM
The most based DA trigger in the world.

>>32398145
>m-muh ounces equal pounds!!
>buy Glock and replace all plastic parts with aftermarket metal ones

Rely maeks u think

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>>32397943
I'd be hard pressed to get rid of either my Glock 19 or my HK P2000. They're both great guns and I don't even touch my Legion P226 anymore which is going up for sale.

Both the 19 and the USPc/P2000 are great guns. You can't go wrong with either of them.

>>32397950
>>32397993
bait

>>32398148
My p30 and p30sk both have picatinny you dumb fuck. And they updated the USP rail a while ago

>>32398156
I don't care about the weight, but if you think all plastics are bad materials you should kill yourself. Glocks are using engineering plastics, not commodity trash.

>>32398179
>they're engineering plastics!
>replace it anyways
Plastics are great, but not in a guide rod or as your sights

>>32398164

No one asked about your P30 collection.

I don't know that they updated it on the newer ones; it still looks the same on HKs website. Really it doesn't matter much, the ISP was one off the first pistols to have a mounting point and the standards hadn't really been forced yet.

There are adapters for normal pistol lights available, or the light could be modified slightly to not abusthe frame if used without an adapter.

>>32398196
No one really cares about what you think. You'd probably have an aneurysm if you saw some of the structural applications plastics have been used in.

do you want hammer or striker fired?
carry the one you can shoot better

the USP is nicer than a G19
if you do go for the USP, try out the LEM trigger. The control lever delete on LEM models makes the USP more slab sided similar to the G19

>>32398353
The LEM trigger is also lighter than the standard DA trigger pull and has a shorter reset.

>>32397943
Is that a HI Point?

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My favorite gun. I have the compact and tactical, both in .45. Love they way they point, they're very mechanically accurate, can take extreme abuse, and on a subjective level I think they're very sleek and have great ergos. If you look around you can find them pretty cheap, I paid 600 out the door for mine.

>>32398365
Its pretty fucking nice. Light LEM just feels like SA with a lot of takeup.
It also lets you thumb the hammer while reholstering
T. P2000 owner

Meh, I have the USP compact, it sits in my gun safe. Just buy a Sig P320.

>>32397943
Best polymer handgun period.

>>32398328
It's Glocks main point of failure, and coincidentally the thing most people replace first, after the stock trigger

And define " structural" lol, because I've built a shitload of buildings, residential and commercial, and iron, concrete, and wood are the predominant materials

As an H&K fanboy, I have to say that while the quality if fantastic, the primary reason I bought one is just personal preference. If you have no particular love for H&K, I strongly suggest sticking with the Glock or going with a Berretta.

>>32398112
Xds 45, is a tiny single stack 45 and honestly feels like a 9mm.

>>32397943
I have a USP Compact in 9mm and I love it
My dad has a 19 and I shoot it frequently
The USP feels much better and he agrees
Im pretty sure he would rather have the USP but he bought the 19 because he wanted to put a sight on it

>>32397943
I LOVE MY USP FAR MORE THAN MY GLOCK.

MY USP-COMPACT IS SUCK A COMFY PISTOL. BASED/10 WILL SILENCE WHEN HPA PASSES

I want a USP compact in 357 sig, but I have no idea why other than I don't have a 357 sig gun.

>>32398811
I'm guessing yours is .45
Do they make threaded barrels for 9mm compact?

>>32398833
yes it is and yes they do. HK has OEM threaded barrels for usp-compacts.

>>32398566
>construction worker
Oh so that's why you're retarded.

>>32398837
Fanfuckingtastic

>>32397943
if you buy, buy used
glock has less flip and Higer capacity, more aftermarket and is just as durable with a better profile
And yes, I've owned both and have thousands of rounds through both
If I was to do it again, I would get the full sized, the glock is just a superior handgun

>>32398970
>less flip
k

>>32398986
In 9mm, but I have perfect hands for the gen4 frame, the Usp was a little to small

>>32398947
FUCK YEHA BRO. kinda pricey because lolHK tho

>>32397943
I own a p2000, make sure to get the trigger you want, lots of variations. I'd recommend the LEM LIGHT

>>32398970
Glock has some advantages mostly in value and aftermarket. They're also more comfortable to carry iwb, IMO, but a superior weapon? Lol, no.

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>>32398128

There's no reason to have a pistol that isn't concealable.

If you can conceal the USP and it feels good in your hand, then sure.

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As an avid HK fanboy, the owner of 2 USP's, and a PPQ, G19, P229's, P225's, etc, I have to say the USP is the finest production combat handgun on the market.

I've had no bobbles, or problems with mine, and I shoot them more than all my other guns. If you like a DA/SA firearm, and you can afford them, you won't make a bad choice.

>>32398885

not him but this isn't an argument

Is a USP in 9mm heresy? I want a 9mm expert because the only other hammer fired 9mm that tickles me right now just got priced at $4900 and there's no fucking way I'm paying $4900 for a 9mm 1911.

Yes I know the jet funnel mags are expensive and yes I'm getting the jet funnel.

>>32399391
I have a regular USP in .40 short n weak. I wish I had just gotten the 9mm Expert. I don't personally think it's heresy, they are supposed to be tack drivers.

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>>32399391
No.

>>32397943
they're not comparable pistols. the USPc is much larger than the G19. If you're looking for hammer fired DA/SA guns then compare it to a 226/229 or a CZ75, etc. Glocks are just different.

My USP is great. It's a .45 regular sized and it is very girthy. It's got a nice trigger but I think I prefer my 226.

My Glock is my go-to carry gun, because I personally prefer striker-fired guns to rely upon.

It's all personal preference but here's this:
the USP is very nice and very accurate.
It's far more expensive.
They will both shoot flawlessly.
The glock has a reasonable trigger.

If your focus is "I'm limited on budget and I want a carry gun" I'm going to tell you G19 because you should spend the savings over the USP on ammo to train with. If you have plenty of guns and you want one, the USP is going to be the much more 'fun' and 'neat' one.

I have both.

>>32399391
9mm USP is amazing.

>>32399391
Full size USP in 9mm isnt heresy provided that you have the tactical
I have a 9mm Compact and love it, but i dont think the full size is worth the extra 2 bullets
I would get a fullsize .45 tactical because its probably the best .45 you get now and I'm not even a .45 guy

>>32399391
>USP in 9mm heresy
works for the Heer

I used to have a USP45C. I traded it in for a USP40 fullsize. I think I actually print LESS with the fullsize 40. The 45C was blocky, hard to hold, and had an embarassing capacity of 8 rounds, 10 if you use HK45C mags. It was alright to shoot, but I think I'd rather have a 1911 at that point.

>>32399345
>there's not reason to have a pistol that's not concealable

Range toy
Open carry for people unable to CCW
Home defense in states that make an HD AR-15 difficult
Backpack/trail gun for self protection from wildlife
Because I fucking feel like it

>>32399614
Why not a fullsize .45 tactical?
They have 12 rounds which is better than a 1911, and I hear that you will become solid snake if you operate enough
Can you fire 10mm form you .40?
I heard that was possible

>>32399682
>10mm from a .40
nigga what.

the reverse is true, though.

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Opinions on the V1 trigger vs LEM for a USP9c? I have the V1 but everyone raves so much about the LEM, it makes me wonder.

>>32399682
Much more expensive than my budget allowed. Maybe some day I can oper8 like Snake though.

>>32399498

I'm getting a fullsize .45 tomorrow one way or another. I just know that I want one in 9mm as well and it'll happen eventually.

>>32399716
V1 is LEM.
V2 is LEM heavy
V3 is DA/SA

>>32397943
I'd definitely buy a usp but first hk would have to:

Lose the gay little warning stamp in the trigger guard.
Thicken up the trigger guard
Put a normal rail on it
Change the mag release to a push button (personal preference)
Give it the light-lem trigger from the factory

I think they look cool and distinctive and its a good design, but they keep these little anachronisms for whatever reason.

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>>32399943
You're thinking of the P2000. For USP's, V1 is the conventional DA/SA.

>>32399925
As good as USPs are, they dont have capacity
If you want a full size 9mm you should get a CZ SP-01 as you can get 19 round mags
I think theres even a shadow variant that has 20

>>32400043
Those really are non-issues
Handle and shoot one and you'll overlook all those things

>>32397943
>ever owning a glocknade
I own two plastic guns of different brands that aren't the USP and I will never own a glocknade.

>>32400043
>Change the mag release to a push button
Small hands detected

>>32397943
wheres the decocker?

>>32400070

Jet funnel mags hold 18 rounds. I want a sp-01 too, I just want the USP more.

>>32400131
Its the same lever as the safety
You push it down past fire to decock
Clever eh?

>>32397943
You can get a P2000 in variant 3, which is more or less the same thing that you're looking for, on CDNN.net for 550 bucks right now.

>>32398196
The only plastic part that needs to be replaced on glocks are the sights, which need to be replaced with night sights on any handgun. Plastic guide rods are superior for weight savings. They have no drawbacks unless you're shooting dozens of mags back to back in full auto.

>>32400147
True
I feel that the USP was designed for .45, but the 9mm Compact is such a good carry gun I had to get it

>>32400043
Release on trigger guard was designed to work with gloves.
Same reason the guard itself is so long.
the only thing i can agree with is a normal rail.. but fuck it.

>>32398130
You can get reinforced metal guide rods for the glock

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>>32397943
I love my USP9c. Glocks are good but I'd pick my USP over one every time.

>>32397943
the glock is lighter, smaller, just as accurate/reliable, has much more aftermarket parts +accessories, and doesn't have an awful trigger like the usp

btw i don't care for glocks all that much

>>32400173
Night sights are fucking retarted

>Holy fuck is broad daylight sure can see just fine
>Holy fuck its pitch black, good thing i cant see my night sights
>Better turn on my fucking flashlight; oh fuck why did i even get night sights if i have a fucking flashlight.

Shits stupid

>>32400223
>I can't see my night sights
Do you buy them without tritium or something?

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>>32400223
You're stupid.

>>32400187
sadly, it was designed around 40 and the 45 came out last.

>>32400187
The USP was designed for .40, the Mk.23 was designed for .45.

>>32400088
I have shot a rental p2000, my dad's vp9, and fondled a sup in a store. I was set on a p2000 as my first handgun until I shot one at a range and found out how much I hate lever mag releases.
>>32400129
Opposite problem actually. It's awkward to pull my index finger out of the trigger guard and bend it back to hit the release. It's a little better using the base of my thumb pad on the opposite side, but I think it's way more comfortable to have a button.

>>32400255
Usp*

>>32400187

If I'm remembering correctly it was originally designed for .40s&w and then built up into what became the Mark 23 to fire 185gr +p .45acp, but the design works just fine in every caliber as far as I've seen.

I fondled a 9mm stainless compact at my lgs the other day and the thickness was perfect but the grip was just the slightest bit too short for me. I'll probably end up buying one anyway.

>>32400248
>>32400252
The should have designed the Mk 23 for 10mm
I would have been amazing

>>32400242
>>32400232

Cool So i used my night sights and now i have a target picture
> -.-
Good thing everything beyond my target is still pitch fucking black because its in the goddam dark but i can sure see my sights just fine.
Better turn on my 800lums flashlight.
Holy fuck its almost daytime and i can see my sights just fine and have a good sight picture

remind me why again you bought those night sights ?
Dont tell me your gonna fire in the darkness at a vague shape of a silhouette not knowing exactly what your target is and whats behind it.

>>32400270
>tfw no true 10mm HK pistol

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>>32400275

>Wasting 80$ on literal green plastic

>>32400282
Is it possible to get one converted?
Is it possible for less than $1000?
You'd probably have to get a custom made barrel either from HK or someone else

>>32400223
Night sights are useful for when you want to aim at something in the dark without your target being alerted that you're aiming at them. If you use your imagination, I'm sure you can think of some situations where this could be useful.

>>32400324
I saw a forum post a few months back of a guy that did a USP 10mm build. It was one of those "I'll let you know how it goes 1,000 rounds later!" with no follow up iirc

>>32400270

I mean I would say fund it but

>HK

so yeah that's kind of pointless because it's never going to happen.

>>32400275

Night sights are for low light, not no light.

>>32400338
rip

>>32400326

> Confirmed for never having to fire a gun in the dark, at someone. Or something

Trust me, in that moment.. there is no "take my time and aim".
Walk downstairs
See shadowy figure
Flip on flashlight, yell to hit the floor.
Instinctively you have acquired target picture. Taken the initiative and disrupted the trespasser with fucking 800 lumes to the eyeballs.

> You wont even think twice about those night memes

>>32400366
>no time to bring up sights

>but time enough to switch on light, yell at intruder...and bring up sights

And protip: some of those lumes are going to be hitting your night adjusted eyes as well.

I'm not saying don't use a flashlight. But there are situations where it wouldn't be ideal to use one. There are no drawbacks to having night sights along with a good light.

>>32400366
Why are you even yelling at the intruder? Fucking drop him.

>>32400458
What if it's literally your kid's friend after they went out to smoke some cigarettes?

Gee that would be great. Talk about a court case and healthy family relationship.

I love my USP. My favorite polymer framed pistol by far. I do have a g23 (same size as the g19, just in .40 meme&kekson) and the HK just seems superior, even with glocks reputation.

I did have to wait around for a good deal before I found one at a reasonable price. The same day I bought mine for just under $700 (basically unfired, and with two boxes of decent ammo) I saw one down the street at another store- beat up, well used, and a price tag of $1k.

The magazines may be the only thing that make the difference. USP mags are (on average) expensive as fuck, even compared to glock. But hey, NO COMPROMISE!!!!
And if you're buying an HK product, you're probably not piss poor anyway.

>>32400458

Because one of the four rules exists so that you don't accidentally plug family members and friends.

>>32400468
Why is my toddlers friend smoking

>>32400303
>Pergo floor

dropped

>>32400338
/u/LifeSizePotato

>>32398161
>They're both great guns and I don't even touch my Legion P226 anymore which is going up for sale.
Not like that means anything. The Legion only came out like last year. You sound like you just got into guns recently and blew thousands of dollars in anticipation of the election on the most niggery pistols you could find.

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>>32399474
>the USPc is much larger than the G19.

This is patently false.

Anyone else in here carrying a USP with an LEM/Match hybrid trigger? It's hands-down my favorite trigger on a DA gun.

>>32398155
Except it's not, HK's aren't famous for having sexy triggers.

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>>32400913
Dude, the Legion is the 4th Sig I've owned.

I didn't buy any guns in anticipation of the election and I've had the Legion for a year now. But I get it, you couldn't actually find anything to argue about so you thought you'd just try to insult me by calling me a newguns.

>>32404543
Not the anon you're replying to, but why has the Legion fallen out of your favor? I thought they were supposed to be bretty gud.

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>>32404588
It's nice, don't get me wrong. Someone else will enjoy it. I do like it, but the P2000 and the Glock 19 are just more sensible for what I want.

I'm probably never going to carry the Legion. I wanted a full sized Sig to replace the P220 I sold and fell in love with it. I'm just trying to downsize my collection and sell off what I don't shoot or really value to put towards a down payment on a new house.

Nothing wrong with the gun, I just prefer the Glock 19 and the P2000. Some people hate the Glock trigger, but I actually like it and for some reason both the 19 and P2000 feel better in my hand. Some people hate the way Glocks feel. It's not a knock against the Sig per say, just want to minimize what I own and the 19 and P2000 have more value to me.

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>>32399334

>>32397943
I said wont fap again today then had to fo make a thread with h&k hotties.

Look don't buy an USP anything before I realize whats happening yr back in the LGS or online getting another. They should be outlawed most addictive firearms on the planet.

I never needed(although I had them) spam cansfor pistol ammo. But after USP9T went through 300 rounds in a month I knew was hooked. It replaced p250 that was edc within week

>>32400324
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzh16zi55G0

>>32398112
Manlet.

>>32399361
Neither is what he's saying, it's just a bunch of stupid construction worker posturing.