It is known that there are swords of societal persuasion and

>>32373243
the Carcano that was used to shoot JFK

>>32373248
the pistol that shot gaddafi

the pistol hitler used to off himself

the pistol used to kill Franz Ferdinand

>>32373243
Well the most expensive sword scored close to 8 million $US, the most expensive firearms where a pair of pistols that belonged to George Washington. So Swords > guns, because more expensive is better.

But then, there is this thing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UW2IDIDfHKY
>anyone into bling?

>>32373264
P.S. George's pistols did score close to 2 million $a

Simo Hayha's Mosin

Carlos Hathcock's Rifle that he took as a trophy from a Vietnamese sniper that was hunting him, shot right through the scope

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>>32373248
>>32373254
>>32373272
Maybe they have some historic value, especially the gun that shot Lincoln, but then, they are not artworks, and as such they simply do not score prices as high as swords.

You've articulated it REALLY badly but I know what you're getting at. The reason that swords- particularly short swords, longswords and greatswords- have the kind of presence and emotional power they do is because of what society associates them with. Think about how Western media and Chinese Cartoons(TM) treat them. We have examples like tales of King Arthur and his Excalibur. Every noble knight who slays the dragon and saves the princess. Goddamn Star Wars. Jesus fucking Christ, Star Wars. Look no further than Star Wars for the glorification of swords via the lightsaber. The Japs have had a sword fetish ever since it became less of a sidearm and more of a ceremonial thing. God do they ever love swords, because muh culture, even though the bow was a much better and more heavily used weapon in the time of the samurai. There is a mental association in out society between swords and a fair fight, an honorable fight, a thing we now largely consider lost to time even though it was rarely ever a reality. The sword is a symbol of knights and princes, the Good Guys everyone aspires to be. A symbol of a time that never was, but which a lot of people want back, in a way. In other words, everyone is looking back at the age of swords with rose-tinted glasses, through a lens of centuries of warping, falsification, mistranslation, and mistakes of legend for reality and vice versa. If there are guns that capture this effect now, it's revolvers and lever-actions because of the association with the Wild West and the larger-than-life characters contained therein. Perhaps in a thousand or more years, when war is waged purely from afar with drones and robots, people will look back through time at assault rifles and handguns in this way, wishing for the old days when you had to kill a man yourself if you wanted him dead.

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>>32373321
Why post if you know nothing?

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>>32373348
Looking shiny like a brothel door != art
Even the most expensive H&H guns score way below expensive swords.
pic related is the most expensive weapon so far, close to 8'000'000 $$$

>>32373348
How does it feel being a pleb?

>>32373243
>>32373321
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_historical_swords
Famous swords are usually legendary or downright fictional ones, used by great lords and heroes. These swords were also individually made, unlike modern mass-produced guns. (Didn't carlos hatcock modify his M2? That would count.)

>>32373364
>Looking shiny like a brothel door != art
Yes, welcome to the highly subjective world of art where a raging alcoholic's paint flingings and a can of soup can be worth millions.
>Even the most expensive H&H guns score way below expensive swords.
Yes that tends to happen when the two objects being compared are chronologically seperated by quite a bit and one has a greater amount of precious metals.
>>32373367
Look in a mirror and get back to me :)

>>32373390
>muh Hitler
>muh gunz
>muh totally not pleb
Isn't there Glock thread you should spam?

>>32373337
>>32373369
In germany we had this very successful author writing stories of heroes in the old west (okay stories, but nothing close to the real world... he never left germany). He features a few unique and named guns that most older germans will still recognize as belonging to those heroes, which is about as close as I can think of a "legendary" gun. Dunno wether there are similar cases in american or other literature.

>>32373400
I couldn't care less about Hitler friend. Swords are antiquated technology superseded by guns, there's no arguing this.
>muh totally not pleb
Right back at you, I guess you needed a few more words to pad your post. Isn't there a butter knife thread you should spam? :)

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>>32373431
>I couldn't care less about Hitler friend.
>posts Hitlers Walther

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>>32373435
>grasping for straws
I used it as an example because it was mentioned here>>32373254 nice try though :)
Here have a m1906 Schouboe presented to the president of Uruguay.

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>>32373445
>industrial product
>with some added bling
Cannot compare to a fully hand made piece of art from a renowned craftsman.
If you wouldn't be full pleb, you'd post something like pic related.

>>32373474
>cannot compare to a fully hand made piece of art from a renowned craftsman
You're right, it's better due to advances in technology. :)
Nice try Pleb Jeb.

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>>32373243
Handguns used to be. Since most of them were handmade by gunsmiths.

They were given as state gifts and held ceremonial value. Practice however died off after 1900, largely because the firearms industry is, well, industrialized. And the few gunsmiths left are utter bubbas.

Not to mention giving weapons as state gifts nowadays is pretty third world.

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>>32373485
As aid, there's a glock thread somewhere, you will be much happier there. Functionality has nothing to do with historic value. And putting golden whore stripes do not turn a run of the mill gun into an artwork.

>>32373498
>and putting golden whore stripes do not turn a run of the mill gun into an artwork
Seems to work for the run of the mill trash you're posting :)

Swords have more history behind them than guns. We've been using guns for what, 3-400 years tops? We were using swords since ancient Egypt up until and during WW1.

However, (showing my not guns knowledge here) isn't the peacemaker considered a renowned gun for 'winning the west'?

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>>32373521
Plebfriend, you lost the debate like 10 posts ago, all weapons I posted are handmade. No go jerk of to some hyped overpriced industrial made knives or Hitlers underpants.

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>>32373524
>We've been using guns for what, 3-400 years tops?
more like 500, but older ones can reach 600+ years. Even top quality handmade guns usually do not score as high as high end swords.

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>>32373498
what an ugly nugget

>>32373542

Still just over half a millennia compared to multiple millennia.

>>32373586
Actually it is an OU double barrel.

>>32373364
>Jade hilt.
>Gold guard and fittings
>Lord knows what wood that is precious to the Chink Craftsmen.
>Silken cord baldrick.
>Associated with one of the gr8est Emperors of Chinkdom.
No shit that would be auction expensive.

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>>32373612
>sold for 1/4 of what the chink saber did cost.

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>>32373635
All it has is a historically significant owner. But it looks like any Flintylock Pistol ever and servicable to boot.

Try Cathy The Great's. Made by a master gunsmith and the whole fucking furniture is made of ivory. Its not for sale so we'll never know how much this one is.

>>32373657
>All it has is a historically significant owner. But it looks like any Flintylock Pistol ever and servicable to boot.
Was a gift from Lafayette to, and finest French quality of the time.