LEGAL DIY homemade firearms

I take it any and all homemade firearms are banned in Aus? Right?

If not do you need some kind of license?

>>32367636
As far as i can google yeah.

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Pew pew pew pew pew

That shit is all retarded, why not just make your own based on an existing weapons platform that won't blow up in your face the second time you fire it?

>>32368130

Because believe it or not there are some people out there that are smarter and more creative than you are. I bet you don't even change your own oil.

>>32367693
open bolt is always illegal in the US

>>32368200
I did just last week after I finished rebuilding the rear differential.

There's a difference between basing your design off a pre-existing design and just buying parts to assemble a gun.

>>32368217
If I'm not mistaken a single shot open bolt with no extractor/ejector would be legal.

As far as I have divined from Canadian law, in Canada:

1) if you make your own firearm, it is non transferable and must be destroyed at your eath (I have no idea how this applies to unfinished receivers, I speak of making from scratch)

2) If you make your own firearm, you must hold the proper license for it (make a handgun, better have your restricted license)

3) If you make your own firearm, you are supposed to submit it or its design to the RCMP so it can be verified for its classification and put in the FRT (Firearms Registration Table? I forget) This is on you, because if they take your non restricted homemade gun and easily modify it into a prohibited, you are guilty of owning a prohibited weapon. Also, they want it to be serialized, trackable, and its design recognized in case of theft/use in a crime.

So, I made a matchlock rifle which is technically not a firearm at all to avoid all that FRT stuff. And if you can easily make my matchlock into a prohibitied weapon, well shit son, you're one of those german clockwork wizards.

>>32368275
It can have all the bells and whistles you want as long as it does not take a magazine. Single shot open bolt is perfectly legal.

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Made this shitstick. I didnt know how to make Armstrongs mix right (probably a good thing, the tube is not strong), so i just jammed a firecracker down the barrel to use as propellant. Plan on making a .22 rifle soon for shits and giggles because fuck having to rifle a pistol barrel. Dunno why the ATF considers a smoothbore pistol an AOW

>>32369305
>probably a good thing
You make Royal Numbnuts look like Eugene Stoner, so yes, it's a good thing you don't know how.

>>32367540
Not tge maker but it looks pretty straight forward, spring loaded hammer is released with your thumb, probably a nipple and cap cun cap on the back.

Possibly a nail firing pin and you unscrew the back to load a single shotgun shell like the Army FM discussing improvised weapons and munitions directs.

>>32368217
Wrongo

>>32369542
>You make Royal Numbnuts look like Eugene Stoner
LMAO

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>>32367675
pew
click
click
click
pew

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>>32367675
>>32371733

>>32371733
>my fingers!

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Sometimes Jamal gets crafty, too

How would one make an anti-silencer (loudener?)?

>>32367540
Is it legal to share plans for homemade (not 3D printed) weapons?

>>32373370
Assuming you're American, I'd guess so, but I'd put some sort of "FOR EDUCATIONAL PURPOSES ONLY - DO NOT TRY THIS AT HOME" type disclaimer in case someone blows their fingers off.

>>32373450
Thank you.

If anyone needs them i can e-mail professorparabellum's homemade gun study PDFs.

>>32373455
>phishing for emails
ATF plz

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>>32373465
No goy. I want to own assault weapons and shoulder SIG-braces just like you.

https://www.scribd.com/collections/16592616/Professor-parabellum

Here's a "preview" of Professor Parabellum's plans (preview due to being on Scribd). For those who plan to build any of these guns, know that he (and Holmes too) has included some measurement errors on purpose to make these plans useful for people who know what they're doing only, and not amateurs. The Mac 11 bolt is way too light, for example.

>>32373477
Sorry anon. I love my dog.

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>>32373487
http://thehomegunsmith.com/ Philip Luty's frozen in time webpage. His Luty SMGs has been built all over the world. An example is attached to this post. Luty's plans does not contain measurement errors as far as I know.

>>32367540
Looks like all you do is pull back the hammer and once you let it go it instantly strikes, probably uses nipples if its a muzzle loader

>>32373294
Holy shit wouldent that burn the shit out of your hand?

>>32373505
>Contact
http://gunfreezone.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/improvised-munitions-handbook.pdf

Improvised munitions, this manual give you instructions to build the simplest and crudest of firearms, including 7.62x39 cartridges loaded with crushed match heads and a bolt as a projectile.

All of this is for educational purposes only, of course.

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>>32367540
So when test firing a weapon, how many shots does it need to pass before it can be considered safe and functional? What conditions does it need to pass in?

>>32367693
hypothetically, what if you made an open bolt smg without a trigger? meaning it just plows through the entire mag until its empty? because the federal government only considers the "firearm" (lower receiver in an AR) to be the part that houses the fire control group

>>32373590
IIRC it's theoretically banned

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>>32367540

http://mesprojets.eu/Practical%20Scrap%20Metal%20Small%20Arms%20Vol.16%2022%20Pepperbox.pdf

>>32373639
Sweet site. Here's the rest of the blueprints: http://mesprojets.eu/blueprints.html

>>32373654
I've been looking for this... Thankyou... poor noguns here... thankyou

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>>32371190
Lol he's not wrong.. I made it in like 5 minutes by beating the end of a pipe shut and nailing a hole through it for a fuse. About as crude as it gets.

>>32373569
CIP proofs with two cartridges with 25% above maximum pressure.

>>32367540
I built that based on a design from TM 31-210, Improvised Munition Handbook. I made a muzzleloader instead of a shotgun, i guess I just wanted to throw random stuff in there to use as a propellant and anything i can throw in the barrel as a projectile

I used smokeless powder cannibalized from various cartridges, pyrodex tablets and match heads as propellant, all successfully. As far as projectiles go, i have shot lead balls, birdshot and a handful of airsoft bbs.

It works by placing a percussion cap in the rear, there was a little space i carved for it it fit right in, or plastic toy caps with the white tip of a strike anywhere match stuffed in if you run out of normal percussion caps.

Then you pull back on that shitty hammer with your thumb, and let go.

Typically when it fired there was about a 2-3 second delay in which a hissing could be heard, then a BOOM! occasionally it wouldn't go so well and evrything would kind of roll out of the barrel instead.

Having done this in my garage on a whim, there are definitely a few changes I would make when doing my next one.

First, I would NOT put the nipple directly in the rear, apparently they were put on the side, pointed upward for a reason, as I learned shortly before tweezing small pieces of unburnt powder out of my face after firing from the hip (a bit of the pressure escaped through the nipple, which was pointed straight back, and was redirected up and to the sides by the hammer itself)

Hey, i still have my vision, lesson learned.


Next of course, i would not just screw a cap onto the threads of a pipe. Nothing went wrong here, but it makes me feel uneasy and I don't shoot it anymore for that reason.

And finally, I will obviously put more work into everything, build an actual trigger, a MUCH better caplock mechanism, and spend more on the material for a barrel, as that pipe is not the safest thing around.

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>>32374760
I have to admit I was in full panic mode at that point, it was 2008, Obama looked likely to win, and I spent all my money on guns and ammo already, so I started trying to improvise weapons out of whetever i could find in different locations so I could practice and be able to survive in obama's post-apocalyptic gun free hell circa 2009+

That was the piece of shit i built using only stuff I could find around the house.

I made a gun at work too, but that was just a four winds ripoff. I used to stick empty soda bottles on the end and launch them across the large garage they had us sit in all day for some reason every day we didnt have actual work to do

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>>32374842

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>>32374842
Fin.

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>>32374842
This too.

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>>32374842
And this.

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Easiest one desu, <$10 at the hardware store

>>32374760
Do you remember what kind of pipe it is?

>>32368130
I'm designing a .50 BMG based on the Mauser 98.

>>32375133
Let me know how that goes for you.

>>32375211
It'll go fine I'm sure. Plenty of metal on the bolt once I decide to drop the money to have it machined and heat treated.

Are homemade paper 1911 /k/?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_v9n2qSW14

>>32367540
Most non-nfa weapons can be made without any sort of permit, the question is whether or not you have the intent to sell, that is what differs you from a manufacturer according to ATF regulations.

>>32375027
It is NOT recommended lol. It was a random 1/2 inch seamed black pipe I found in my garage left there from whoever lived there before.

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I've dubbed it. "The ghetto blaster".
Only cost me 20 bucks to make

>>32375240
Fair nuff... I mean unless you have some CnC, Drafting or Machining skill... You'll probably never finish it. I have an idea for an FAL pattern shotgun but that ain't never gonna happen with my skill.

>>32375551
Probably won't. It's fun to play around with though.

>>32375640
Do it for the funs I guess man.

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>>32374535
thanks friend

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>>32375539
Is that a fucking paint brush front grip?

>>32376037
Love the old and the new Xcom reference.
Remove ayyy!

>>32373477
>the tip of the bullet is sticking out
that gets me laffin every time

>>32369305
>back of barrel just hammered closed for like 1/2"
christ

>>32373525
probably not.
.22 barely produces any heat, and a single shot will probably dissipate that heat about as fast as you can load, fire, and reload

>>32373590
>>32373614
it's fully banned. a few decades ago a gun manufacturer converted some open bolt subguns to fire without a trigger. you would load a magazine, pull the bolt back, and once you let go of the bolt it would empty the magazine (or jam). This was technically legal at the time. The manufacturer took advantage of the ATF definition of a machine gun, which at the time said something about a trigger being pressed. iirc they sold a bunch of them before the ATF changed the wording of the machine gun definition. i think they were called burp guns

>>32368743
Can you really buy a musket with no license in Canada?
I'm trying to refrain from getting the police involved with what I shoot in the woods.

>>32374760
You're a true hero

>>32371902
Not illegal, nigga.

>>32375539
How u do dis? I wanna make my own

>>32378177
its a slambang with furniture google 4 winds. 2 pipes a endcap and a nail.

>>32378213
Will do thanks lad

>>32376285
Yes it is. Good eye

>>32378213
Pretty much what he said. I machineed the fireing pin instead of using the nail/dowel. Make sure it's rounded and not pointy you don't want to Pierce the primer

>>32377997
Long gun with flintcock or older (matchlock, boxlock, I believe, there is a list somewhere.) are not considered firearms. All you need to be is eighteen so you can but the gun, gunpowder and balls.

Flintcock pistols require license, and percussion cap or more advanced also require license.

Antique weapons do not require a license as well. Been thinking about buying an antique percussion pistol, because I never got my restricted and unless I want to pout up with restricted licensing requirements (which I don't) antique pistols are the only ones I wille ver own.

>>32374884
>>32374871
This may be retarded but why does the bolt come back after the firing pin hits the cartridge? Is it the pressure of the explosion from the cartridge that pushes it back ?

I

>>32378722
"...equal and opposite reaction"

>>32378782
But what if the spring is too stiff, say for instance if it gets really cold, and the cartridge doesn't eject

>>32375539
/v/ here, mind if I save this for future New Vegas threads?

>>32378820
Idgaf

This thread is making me want to build one myself and blew my fingers off because I did it wrong

>>32378090
does a hero keep their balls in a jar?

>>32379519
What did he mean by this?

>>32368217
Won't be approved by ATF for commercial sale. Legal to make for personal use as long as you're careful and don't make a full giggle

>>32379575
Ignore him, Ivy's paid enough

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>>32367675
thx mr.atf

>>32374760
Based thank you.

>>32369305
How the fuck do you even fire that monstrosity? Where's the trigger?

>>32369305
Anything YOU build WILL send searing hot metal shrapnel into your face if you ever fire it. Please don't ever fire anything you make.

>>32382019
>Being this much of a pussy

>>32382054
Here's how a properly researched "hasty" zip-gun is made:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MbcMwPdoEd0

There's a surprising amount of calculation and machining needed just to make what is essentially two tubes that go boom when you hit them together.

There's no reason to make shoddy, unsafe firearms when you can build it right, although I wish there were ways to build zip guns that didn't require actual machinery or welding.

>>32382239
>although I wish there were ways to build zip guns that didn't require actual machinery or welding.
Pssh, learning to weld and machinist techniques is the fun part to making homemade firearms.

Plus, you can get cheap as shit arc welders secondhand.

>>32380885
This is Hypnotic

>>32376305
ive never seen that before...

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>>32368217
>>32379738
>Won't be approved by ATF for commercial sale. Legal to make for personal use as long as you're careful and don't make a full giggle
This.

The ATF has never made a ruling on open bolt meaning anything, only that specific open bolt guns are considered easily convertible.

Keep in mind that doesn't mean that ATF wouldn't remove the disconnecter anyway and then kill you, your wife, children, and dog.