best commbloc pistol?

>>32356771
Makarov is probably going to be cheapest and most practical for carry. But I've always liked the Tokarev. It has some good aesthetics to it and some nice history, and with my massive hands the Makarov never felt right.

>>32356771
t-that's a benis!

FEG 380. No dick grips, regular, non commie caliber, Walther pp ergonomics. Also you are not buying something cobbled together by a slav.

>>32356771
CZs

>>32356771
i really like makarovs

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>>32356771
CZ 75

Czechoslovakia was communist.

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>>32356771
Armo K2
>Simple Blowback
>9x18 cartridge
>14+1 capacity
>Can be taken apart easily and cleaned easily
The probable down would be a DAO, but that's mostly subjective.

>>32356771
anything czech. soviets said here build this Czechs said fuck you heres somthing better
>CZ/VZ-52
soviets forced a cartridge that it wasnt designed for, ended up with something shitty b/c muh mudderland 7.62

>>32359099
>implying 7.62 tokrev isnt the paradigm service cartriage

>>32359143
>implying parabellum isnt the paradigm

>>32359220
It's 9mm if someone were to take it to the logical conclusion.

>>32359236
thats...what i was getting at?
cz52 was designed around 9mm, and vz52 was made around the much better 7.62x45
Czech boolits>Slav boolits

>>32357339
This thing is beautiful in some strange way.

>>32359271
It's a steel HI point

>>32357339
I like the aesthetics of that, but not so much the beat up quality. Looks like the sort of gun that you get mugged with.

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>>32357207
Lets not forget about the CZ-82

>>32360269
That has a sort of otherworldly quality about it. I like it.

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Mak a best, just picked mine up for ~$200.

A little beat up, but cannot complain.

>>32357207
THIS

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>>32356771

>>32356799
>with my massive hands the Makarov never felt right.
This. If you have big hands shooting a Mak is NOT fun.

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>>32357207
This

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>>32359271
>>32359291
>>32360250
Here's one for civvies, they did some minor asthetic changes

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Is buying this worth it?

>>32360744

+ It looks like a space gun
+ 7.62x25 is a fun cartridge
+ Pistol itself isn't too expensive
+ Can be converted to 9x19

- 7.62x25 is expensive and not worth it unless you have a Tok or another gun that fires it
- Compared to other pistols of its size/price it doesn't do anything special (besides pierce level III body armor)

>>32360724
Man, if they made it DA/SA and imported for under 350 I'd buy it just for the gunness of that gun. Like something taken from a particularly imaginative child's drawings.

>>32360744
Looks handsome with that shade of grip.

>>32360774
is it full auto like in my anime?

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Originally posted this in the Milsurp thread, but I guess this thread could give me some more info. I'm looking to get my first pistol and I've narrowed it down to two contenders. The Polish P64 Radom and the M57 Zastava Tokarev. Does anyone have any experience with either of these pistols? Both are going for exactly $219 with only $10 shipping. Classic firearms was the particular website I was looking at. Will these be good, reliable firearms? Would I regret picking up one or both of these? Any information or input would be much appreciated.