AKM suggestions thread

*going to BUY an AKM type rifle

u want akm but u also want chrome? isn't the answer (a WASR) obvious?

>>32327769
I keep hearing about WASRs having fucked up iron sights and being generally inaccurate compared to other options. Is this true, or just armchair general hype?

>>32327731

WASSENHIMER AGREEMENT SEMI AUTOMATIC RIFLE.

>>32327780
all aks are gonna be (generally) not the most accurate just due to them bein AKs, and fuck i mean iron sights are fuckin shitty ass russian military iron sights, they were never designed for marksmanship in the first place. you can get an optic rail plus like some shitty optic if it's that important to you

bumperino

>>32327731
IF that pic is from your local fun store and dat niggers got a whole rack full of jippo tabuk ak47's with original steyrCL'd barrels, I'd def grab the best looking one there.

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Free ship and $20 for transfer

>>32328021
I own one of these, and love it

>>32328034
Is the century being shit rifles just a dumb ass autismo meme?

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>>32328034
End game

where do you live? I have a wasr and it bores me now

>>32328082
Nowhere with restrictive gun laws if that's what you're asking.

>>32328104
no, I'm asking where you live so I can sell you my ak

>>32327780
WASRs made after 2014 have great QC. Seriously the new batches are an excellent buy.

>>32327796
It's not the rifle itself, jesus christ. It's the round itself, which is a large, slow moving round with a poor BC. The rifle and caliber were designed for 300, max 400 yards, and they're very accurate within that distance.

Just because they aren't a fucking laser beam doesn't mean the fudd memes are true. Christ.

>>32328125
>The rifle and caliber were designed for 300, max 400 yards, and they're very accurate within that distance.

wtf do you mean? an ak is still at best a 2 moa rifle, range notwithstanding. you ever shot one bro?

>>32327796
>and fuck i mean iron sights are fuckin shitty ass russian military iron sights,
I bet your favorite (and only acceptable) shotty is a 590A1 with slug ghostrings, too.

Guess what, a simple V&post sight setup is what is on a pistol, its what was on lever action rifles back in the cowboy era, and its still found on guns today. Guess why? because they work, esp at night/low light - unlike those "m-muh marksman" sights you have such a boner for.

>>32328082
im in las vegas... no op but trying to snake

>>32328164
why are you trying to defend ruskie sights so much? i have lots of slavshit guns but it's common knowledge their iron sights are clunky shit. sorry you're a deluded slavaboo tho lmao

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Stay away from the clearview investment/classic firearms amd builds. Whoever drills the gas ports at CI is a moron, the chamfer goes into the rifling. Pics related

>>32328138
of course it's a 2 moa rifle, it wasn't meant to be a fucking precision rifle.

I own two you fucking faggot, and I never went into either of them with the retarded expectation that they would be sub MOA guns. It wasn't designed to be.

if they wanted a more accurate gun they would've crowned the barrel or put something other than an asymmetrical muzzle brake on it.

Also the fact that almost no one shoots match ammo, just wolf and tula, and then wonder why they're getting 4 MOA (which is perfectly fucking acceptable for the platform)

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This has been reported on more then one rifle. If its ever sorted out, would make for a nice budget rifle in the 450-500 range.

>>32328179
If they are as inaccurate as you say they are, nobody would take them to war. I've seen Kurdish inbreds skeet shooting with old AKs and dropping ISIS fighters with one shot on each.

>>32328199
i never said that it was supposed to be you fucking retard. you're basically agreeing with my first post. i can't believe they let mentally challenged kids have guns now tho, trump with those gun law reforms really coming thro

>>32328216
aks do what they were designed to do, which was fuck up man sized targets at around 100 yds. do they need to be accurate for that? no. idiot. you're so fucking stupid, holy shit. i can't believe how fucking dumb you both are.

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>>32327731

>All those AB2s

MUH

DICK

>>32328227
so you're saying a rifle designed to shoot 3-4 MOA out to about 400 yards, that DOES SHOOT 4 MOA OUT TO 400 YARDS, is inaccurate?

holy, fuck, you're retarded

>>32328255
>aks are generally inaccurate
>no they aren't !!!!
>yes they are
>b-but they weren't DESIGNED to be accurate
>also, 4 moa isn't inaccurate

i've never had someone agree with me so angrily before

>>32328227
>designed to fuck up man sized targets at 100 yards

wrong again. It was designed to be a multipurpose intermediate cartridge to allow higher magazine capacity, higher rate of fire, and to allow the average soldier to carry more ammunition while maintining a lighter overall weight.
As well as barrier penetration and good terminal ballistics.

>>32328048
yeah
it stemmed out of a few things
1- They imported rifles that we're great to begin with
2- They don't really manufacture, they convert them to be imported, then reconvert them when they are in the US

>>32328282
...and to fuck up mansized targets at 100 yards

>>32328272
you're retarded, and you have a nogunz definition of accuracy.

FN considers M4's good to ship if they shoot 4 MOA.

Go actually shoot a gun and realize that modern service rifles that shoot anything inside of 6 MOA are perfectly accurate for their intended uses.

>>32328250
>AB2
Am I being memed?
Those are Tabuks.
>Inb4 I thought Tabuks were just the DMR

>>32328313
4 moa is inaccurate, you're grasping at straws if you think differently. sorry you're so caught up in an internet argument that you can't admit when you're wrong.

>>32328295
that's like saying the 5.56 was designed to tumble.

>>32328319
holy shit, another internet "ballistics expert"

jesus christ you don't know what you're talking about.

4 MOA out of a blueprinted Rem 700 Action and Lilja barrel would be inaccurate

4 MOA out of a service rifle intended for squad suppression and the ability to carry a high volume of ammo at minimum weight costs is excellent.

4 MOA = 8"x8" group, well within a mans torso at 100 yards, well within one at 300 yards.

>>32328048

>not knowing century imports rifles from war factorys on top of producing garbage U.S made guns.

>>32328338
accurate enough for it's purpose? yes. accurate? no.

you seem to think accuracy is based on the purpose of the rifle instead of being, you know, about accuracy.

>>32328354
Accuracy is COMPLETELY based on the intended use for the rifle.

>Honda Accords aren't fast because the Civic Si has higher top speeds/acceleration
you see how retarded you sound?

>>32328375
no, it isn't.

you gonna start redefining words now to meet whatever stupid opinion you have to uphold on the internet happens to be? fuck, you must be unpopular with dictionary companies bro

>>32328315

Oh you're right, I didn't pay attention to the sand runes

>They're still AB2s though

>>32328391
>i don't have a coherent response or argument
>I'll just start accusing him of twisting words
>lets throw in an ad hominem too
wow good one nigger

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>>32328319

>human chest is 34MOA across

muh inacurate rifle!

>>32328375
But Honda Accords aren't fast.
That is how things work, you compare them to other things.
I guess you could say "it is accurate for a service rifle", in which case you would still be wrong, considering the accuracy of most other service rifles is way above that of the AK.
You could say "it is accurate enough for a service rifle" or "it is accurate enough to do what it was designed for", in which case I would agree with you. But that is different than the general statement "it is accurate" or "it is accurate for a service rifle", which are measurably false.

>>32328421
>>accusing him of twisting words

bro if you're too stupid to type the word accurate in google I can't help you. I'm sorry you're so insecure you consider me telling you that your definition of something is completely fucking wrong that you think I'm saying you're twisting words.

here, let me just throw out some synonyms of 'accurate' for you, okay?

precise

exact

correct

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>>32328433
this 10000x

>>32328402
True, except they're Tabuks.
They're not AB2s because they weren't made in Zastava.
>And before you say it, it's not autism, it's specificity

>>32328453
>M16 ACCURACY AT 100M: 4.3 INCHES
>AK-47 ACCURACY AT 100M: 5.9 INCHES

pretty fucking good considering the differences in standard ammunition

>>32328493

Yes, yes. My century AB2 wouldn't qualify under those standards either. I'd venture to say those Tabuks are more AB2s than century AB2s since it's probably all Serbian tooling still.

>>32328459
>still has no argument
>l-look at the dictionary, bro!
lmao what a fucking dumb faggot

>>32328540
because the DICTIONARY isn't a good enough source

m'kay bro, you're too stupid for me to talk to.

>>32328522

Both my SLR's are 3MOA if I put them in a vise.

>>32327731
I've been looking at the AK74 and Krinkov because of the better characteristics of the 5.45x39 round. Apparently the Spetznaz didn't like the Krinkov so it might be the 74. Plus they're not in that price range.

>>32328551
>m'kay bro
>LOOK AT THE DICTIONARY

holy shit this is autism incarnate

>>32328522
I have no idea where you are getting those numbers, but from my experiences you'll get ~3-4 moa out of a decent AK and ~1.5-3 out of a decent AR. Spend 1500$ on each and the AK will shoot about 2 moa and the AR will shoot at or under 1.
I wouldn't consider 4-6 moa as accurate from any rifle, although I would consider it passable in a semi-auto that doesn't cost more than a grand.

>>32328082
What state? Do want to become hasAK

>>32328609
why would I want to become hasAK if I'm talking about SELLING my ak

>hurr muh AK so inaccurate
>look ma I memed it again!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iiHsavQNfxs

>>32328622
I meant that I want to become hasAK

>>32328650
TN

>>32328662
faaaaaaaaaak. Im innaKS

>>32328699
what part....you got skype?

>>32328708
KCK, and no skype, but I do have email

>>32328717
okay gimme that...

how much you lookin to spend btw?

best top dollar options ~$1000:
>Vepr
>Saiga
>Arsenal

midrange ~$600-$800:
>Yugo
>WASR
>DDI (unprofessional faggots who insult their customers, parts kit rifles are fine)

avoid most American-made AKs, including:
>I.O.
>Century RAS-47 et al.
>DDI homebrews

Palmetto's AKs seem to be fine.

You only really need a chrome-lined barrel if you'll be shooting a lot of corrosive ammo, there's not a whole lot of corrosive 7.62x39 lying around these days. It's good to have though, because it makes the barrel last a long time. Black nitrided barrels are also good.

Vepr and those other brands are absolutely worth the money, though. They're the best AK on the market and they'll last forever.

>>32328742
mosin.nagant2876(at)gmail
What is your price and we will negotiate from there.

>>32328757
I completely agree with this.
I don't own a Saiga anymore, but those are great rifles, own both converted and unconverted Veprs and an SLR and they are fantastic rifles; never had a problem with any of them.
Normally I stay away from American, but I am about 2500 rounds through a PSA and so far so good. Only issues is that the magazine catch was a bit tight from the factory. Some time with a file fixed that right up and it's been 100% at the range. I really like the blued finish on the PSA AKs, it gives them a distinctly western look that looks and especially feels different than any AK I've dealt with before.

>>32328891
600 with 2 extra mags

>>32328433
So a person's torso expands to 68 inches wide at 200 yards? Holy shit, someone get /fit/ on the phone. They've been doing it all wrong!

>>32328923
what do the PSAs MSRP for? I see them on the website but they are all out of stock, so no price is listed.

>>32328982
800-900 last time i saw someone talking about them

>>32328757
My friend bought an Ras47 not too long ago what's up with them?

>>32329028
Shitty cast trunnion
Oversized gas port
No bayo lug or cleaning rod
shitty barrel

Basically it'll blow up in 2000 rounds or so

>>32329028
A lot of the parts are made from cast steel, which is weaker than the forged steel used in foreign-made rifles. So they are more prone to (catastrophic) failure.

Google "ras47 failure" and quite a few complaints about the cast metal parts will show up.

>>32329067
>>32329069
Well damn, I saw some yellow crusty shit kind of oozing from pins on his gun should I tell him to toss that shit?

>>32328972
hrm... I'll have to see man. Shoot me an email and I will think about it overnight

>>32329168
that's probably just grease from when they pressed the parts in, I wouldn't worry about that

>>32329276
It could be rust anon

>>32328757
Definitive Arms AKs are on par with Arsenal.

>>32329309
haven't heard much about them, are they new?

>>32327757
NO FUCK YOU and everyone else in this thread who didn't answer my question.

I don't want to BUY an AKM-type rifle. I did not make a typo. I currently have three headmates and two of them prefer to self-identify as AKMs, because I've been watching Stella Women's Academy, High School Division Class C3. They picked up on the lingo and the pronouns, and they need me to do this.

I want to transition properly, but all of you FUCKS are telling me how to buy actual military weapons. I'm NOT a psychopath. Sick retards.

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Thoughts?

>>32329444
The stock looks bad

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>>32329421
nigger what

>>32329464
That's what's putting me off. Looks like it would be uncomfortable to shoot. Wondering if anyone owns one.

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>>32327731

>>32329499
kek
>dubs checked

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>>32329421

>>32329485
Underfolders are uncomfortable, even paracord wrapped. They are good for looks and that's about it.

>>32329485
underfolders are generally uncomfortable to shoot, it's tough to get a good cheek weld. I'd go for a regular stock for your first AK

>>32329337
They're a low-volume custom shop out of Florida. Great quality, but good luck finding one in stock.

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>>32329421
Is this some sort of /lgbt/ pasta I'm not familiar with?

>>32327780
the iron sights are a little wonky but are easy to get use to i can shoot great groupings at 50 meters and love my wasr

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>>32327783
This

>>32328286
Thanks. So I take it everything is good to go now? Ive been thinking about supplementing my collection with an AK, was looking at century specifically.

>>32329684
just make sure it's a Century-assembled rifle, such as a WASR, as opposed to a Century-made rifle, such as a RAS-47

>>32329625
That rifle is sexy. Looks really cold war

>>32328354
You are stupid this is a bad argument and you should feel bad. Everything is relative comrade.

>>32329421
OP here, idk who this fag is

What kind of AK should I, a cucked EU-fag, buy?
Leaning towards a Saiga.

http://www.waffenschumacher.com/sites_52_-produkte.htm

What kind of surplus mags are compatible with Saigas or VEPRs?

>>32333149
For VEPRs, technically none. You need to modify the magazine release so that the surplus mags lock in correctly. Then you need to install a bullet guide in front of the chamber so that the rounds feed correctly.

>>32327731
Save another paycheck and get an slr

>>32333145
Saiga or Molot

>>32329444
buy it and replace stock

>>32333247
I don´t like the stocks on the Molots

>>32333257
How much would that cost?