500 vs 870

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>>32321093
Winchester 1897

>>32321100
I appreciate your taste and your dubs but for the sake of argument, which?

Own both; prefer Mossberg 500.
I like traditional stocks on shotguns and the safety location of the Mossberg makes more sense for that. The dual extractors on the Mossberg is a plus, but a bigger deal in my opinion is the use replaceable ejector.
So long as you don't get an 870 Express either are fine though.

>>32321121
I also like the thumb safety

>>32321119
870 because I've hunted with Remington shotguns all my life.

>>32321132
Have you tried the mossberg?

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>>32321132
Mein nigga

>>32321150
It's a neat gun. I shot and played with a friends. I'll stick to my 870 and 1100s though.

>>32321093
sorry, I am a 590 sort of guy.
>inb4 it is a 500
500's don't have heat shields faggots.

>>32321093

590A1 because bayonet

>>32321173
590's have it too. 590a1 are front heavy, but that metal trigger group is nice.

>>32321093
I have both. I personally prefer the mossberg

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>>32321173
>>32321178
>>32321168
My brothers.

>>32321121
What's wrong with the express?

Mossberg seems to be getting a lot of love

>>32321187
Lmao what the fuck

>>32321093

500
>ambi tang safety
>non-shit QC (vs post 2007 remshit)
>lighter alum receiver
>release button at rear of trigger guard

870s are literally shit, esp new ones. The older wingmasters from the 1980s and before are cool tho.

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>>32321187
make me moist. There is so much I want to do with this gun.

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I got a Nova, I like lightness and the cyberpunk look.

short barrel for bedside duty and going to get a longer barrel to maybe shoot at some clays.

Winchest Model 12 by far the nicest shotgun ever, but sadly only takes lead so it's not practical these days.

That said, the Mossberg 590A1 takes the cake. The 18.5" with fluted heavy barrel, LPA trigger + metal assembly, +2 mag extension config is just perfect, then pick stock of your choice. Also the 14" barrel with the short handle grips are great

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>>32321093
I first bought a 500 because I needed a pump action shotgun. Also I like the pistol grip+normal stock.

>>32321256
>gif

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870 myself, but that's because I have a 70s Wingmaster that kicks New Remington's ass six ways from Sunday. Fit and finish are excellent, wood quality is superb, and it exudes quality.

However, if you are buying new, Mossberg is clearly the way to go; they are miles ahead of post-acquisition Remington, which is really a shame.

Pic related is nearly identical to mine minus the tube extension

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>>32321259

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>>32321187

>cheap knockoff M9 from (((S&W)))

>>32321192
Nothing, everyone is trying to run them hard when the Express was designed to do that. Get an 870 Police if they want a serious gun.

>>32321093
870, long live the king!

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>Basically 2017
>Not having both

They're both relatively cheap, have about $500 invested between them both. I personally lik my 870 more because it feels much sturdier. My 500 forend is too janky.

>>32321093
870 master race

>>32321093
I have both.

I think the 870 handles a little better in terms of LOP and action, but I really like the control layout of the 500.

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>>32321093
>Which one are you?
Neither, No bayonet no buy.

I will look at a 590, however.

>>32321093
My 870. Chick chuk.

>>32321259
Hover for a second.

>>32321953
>it ain't me

>>32321192
Piss poor quality control, shit tier metal finish, prone to that, Wal-Mart.

>>32321953

M37 is the Cadillac of pumpguns for sure. But that's not what OP is asking.

But I'll take a Mossman 5000 over Remshit.

>>32321093
new made models from both companies are crap quality

>>32321234
The mag tube looks a bit short on that... what's the capacity when using full size cartridges?

>>32321922
This fucker right here has it right....

> Buy both make up your own decision.
> Half of /k doesn't even own guns and still shit on everything
> Remington is shit
> Springfield is shit
> Kimber is shit
> Savage is shit
> Glock is shit
> 1911's are shit
> Ruger is shit
> etc.... well shit by that logical don't buy any god damn guns. Fuck all you no gun fat fucks.

I went to the gun store and finger fucked both the Remington 870 and the Mossberg 500... I bought the 870 because it felt sturdier. And I have a H&R Pardner Pump as a back up...

>>32321093
Who here /1300/

>>32322118
>Remington is shit
>Kimber is shit
These two are objectively true tho...

>>32321093
never had a problem with my 870. you guys are just fuds

>>32322009
Oh Sheeeit my mistake

>>32322012
?

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>>32322241
>fuds

>>32322124
How is kimber shit

>>32321121
Said exactly what I was going to say. I also prefer Mossberg's slide release.

I'd love a vintage 870 though. I have a '50s Gamemaster and it's real purdy, nicely made with gorgeous bluing and wood. Having pretty much the same thing but in 12ga would be awesome.

>>32322259
They aren't really shit, they just charge out the ass for cheap ass mim for high stress parts.

Mossmans a shit. 870 will always be nicer even if they suck.

>>32321168
>buy heatshield
>put on 500
>it's now a 590

It's a overbuilt 500 and you know it faggot

Maverick 88.

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>>32321208
I've got a early 50s wingmaster 16g xD

>>32321093
Ithaca 37

When I first started buying guns many people said I did it "backwards" and got a Mossberg Rifle and a Remington Shotgun. I think I did the right thing and bought what appealed to me best at the time.

That being said I have both the 870 and 500 now and I will always prefer my 870 SPS ShurShot Super Mag will always beat out any of my mossbergs at the same price point

>>32321093
Rem 870, accept no substitutes.

I've played with a couple of Mossies, and to a gun, everyone has had something wrong with it. Mostly wobbly furniture, poor fit and finish, unreliable extraction etc.

Mossbergs are a mess, best avoid them and ask your LGS about what Remingtons they have or can order in.

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>>32322759
>purposely attributing traits of the poor quality of post freedom group Remingtons to Mossbergs

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I've had both and prefer my Mossberg.

That said, I've got a 590A1 rather than a 500.

>>32321093
Mossberg 500.

I appreciate the lighter weight, parts availability and being able to replace things myself without having to ship out to a manufacturer.

>>32321093
TEAM MAVRIK

>>32321093
>There's two types of men in this world, Anon. Which one are you?
the third type - benelli

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>>32321168
You can get 500s with a heat shield. I used to have one. Why would anyone get a 590 when the 590a1 exists?

Ksg

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>>32321093
500. The safety is actually usable as a lefty.

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This comes down to preference but, as always, the 500 takes a very slight edge forward

>500
1. Basically the same shotgun as the 870, and similar price
2. Comes in a variety of configurations and prices. Super shorty, pistol grip/compact and stored in a boating/sealed tube for $300, magpul edition etc
3. Has slightly more 3rd party accessories, and easier to find
4. Better safety, ambi standard, but 870s is better if you use a pistol grip
5. Easy to mount optics. However, sights are better on the 870 (At least the ghost sights)
6. The magpull edition 870 comes with a proprietary barrel system, you cannot switch out barrels (And it's too short to do anything real, and too long for good indoor home protection). By comparison the 500 is much more customize-able

Virtually the same gun. The 500 simply costs slightly less to get it configured the way I want (Short and tactical and to switch out for a long bird barrel) so I prefer the 500.

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>>32322872
The 590a1 shouldn't be purchased by anybody. They took the 590 to the navy, and the navy said "THE FUCK IS THIS? THINGS TOO DAMN LIGHTWEIGHT" so they took the 590 back, switched it out with the same but bulkier and heavier (By like a fucking pound) receiver and called it the 590a1. The navy couldn't have been happier.

Freedom group bought Remington and the quality went to shit.
I've seen it with 3 new Remington 870s in person.
Failures to extract right out of the box.
Buddy said it "needed a break-in period" and that it needed lube.
Which is funny because the week before, I went shooting with my dad and his brand new Mossberg 590 and went through a couple hundred shells with zero malfunctiona.
And I myself have two mossberg 500s.
1 being a 20 gauge that I bought brand new which still has yet to malfunction
My other mossberg 500 is a 35 year old police trade in 12 gauge that I've yet to see malfunction.

I'd go with mossberg. Since they work.

>>32321265
This is a good point, any Remington made before Freedom group bought them out is going to be an excellent shotgun.
If you're buying new, get a mossberg.

>>32322984
Enjoy your plastic parts :÷). It doesn't matter because I only take pictures of it

>>32321253
Took me 15 seconds.

>>32321093
It's honestly kind of difficult to pick a favourite on this one. I've owned and used a Maverick and 500 longer, my first shotgun was an 88, and I currently have one set up with a pistol grip for STALKER reasons. Never had trouble with them and love them, however I've shot a 3.5'' Remington 870 and it was fun and worked very well, and I just recently bought a Grizzly magfed shotgun, a Chinese Remington copy, and it's working fine, I'm really liking it.

I think I may have to say ultimately the Maverick 88 is my favourite out of all of them, I like how light the damn things are, it was my first shotgun, and I never had problems with them. Plus my biggest gripe about the 500 is the safety placement, it never felt right to me, perhaps because I started on a Maverick, but I like the safety placement a lot better on it.

>>32321922
The adjustable stock on your Mossberg is the ATI one, right? I just put one on my Grizzly, they're comfy as fuck.

>>32322810
I'm not sure what the fuck is going on with this gun. But I like it.

Been using a Mossberg 500 for 20 years now. Only God knows the number of ducks and doves I've slayed with this glorious weapon.

I have an 830 ultimag pretty nice scatter gun. And 3 1/2 in mags.

>>32321093
Mossberg even if only for the not shit trap door design. Everything else on the 500 is a plus as well.

Mossman.
I have two 500's, one in 20ga set up for slug gun duty and another 12ga for HD. No other shotgun I've held has easier to use controls.

I have a 590A1.

>parkerized everything inside and out
>metal trigger group and safety

I own a Remington 870 Sportsman and I absolutely love it. When I shoot trap at the club it keeps right up with the expensive over/unders.

Shot a friend's Mossberg a couple of times and it didn't do much for me, relatively speaking.

>>32321253
Very sly

>>32323513

Then again my 870 was made in the 80s back when that company was good

>>32323524
Same here. Got my 870 as a gift in '89. Love it still.

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870 and tactical cat.

>>32322984
But what if i want parkerized instead of blued?

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>>32323455

This

I bought an 870 express a couple years ago when I was new to guns and it's already started rusting. I'd love to know why since it's only external. I'm thinking about selling it and buying a maverick 88. Anyways I regret not buying a mossberg since the 870 seems to have a garbage finish

>>32323627

what does /k/ think of the magpul shotgun furniture? particularly versus pistol grip variants

>>32323612
I actually had a guy tell me I should have bought a parked barrel to replace the blued one. He must have been a real poorfag, because that would have brought the total cost of a 590 higher than that of buying a 590A1 in the first place.

>>32321093
500

>>32322925
what is that pretty rifle on the bottom?

>>32323672
Did you oil it every 4 months or so? All of my steel guns get spots of rust from the humidity whether they're blued or parked if not oiled regularly

>>32321922
>complains about mossberg forend
>has a bunch of shitty aftermarket parts on it
I don't think you get it

>>32323719
It's a 10/22 in an aftermarket stock with TechSights. I have a similar one

>>32321168
>>32321173
Do you guys have any ideas on how to fit the 590 for chokes? I have my mind on one for fun with the bayonet and because a shotgun is generally nice to have, but I'd also like to be able to tune it a little bit for hunting and trap shooting.
I see lots of people saying it's thick enough to thread for chokes, and it doesn't look like the 590 can fit barrels from the 500 on account of the lugs in different places.
If you want to suggest a replacement barrel, I implore you to keep in mind that I'm a European, and that buying anything from a US-based company will turn really painal really fast, economically speaking.

>>32322079
Not him but I have one also. It's 2+1 in the chamber

>>32322123
Winchester 1300? Me. It's nice.

>>32323795
Threading will be your best option if you don't want to buy a new barrel or buy a longer barreled semiauto which would be vastly superior to a 18-20" pump shotgun for trap

I'd love to say Mossberg, but goddam nobody has parts in stock. All I want is the 12ga action slide tube assembly

>>32323749
I live in a pretty dry area and none of my other guns have showed any signs of rusting. I think it's just a shitty finish. I asked a friend who has an 870 and he apparently has the same problem

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The real question, semi or pump?

>>32321168
>>32322579
??????

>>32323077
>muh metal trigger guard

nice meme

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>>32324167
Revolver

>>32324211
Not him but if you think you would ever replace the plastic trigger in a 500/590 with a metal one, due to breakage or just as an upgrade, it's significantly cheaper to just buy a 590A1 with all the metal parts straight from the factory.

>>32322780
To be fair, Mossberg wobble IS a thing.

It's just a feature, not a bug.

Literally never experienced the other two he's talking about.

>otoh my Mossbergs are 27 and 50 years old, respectively

Still going strong too. Fight me faggots.

Also 590A1 a shit. The 50YO gun above is still in factory condition bar the stock, and is going strong, even with its """""weaker""""" polymer FCG and thinner barrel. It's got a half-century of getting the fuck beat out of it under its belt, and I'm NOT nice to it.

And ghost ring sights are inferior to a bead for most applications you'd use a shotgun.

If you want a 590 for muh capacity, go for it. If you want a 590A1 because "muh milspec" just be aware that they overbuilt it because grunts are fucking retards who will find a way to break ANYTHING. The only tangible benefit I can think of is all that extra weight limiting recoil.

It's some "stamped vs milled AK" shit: one is stronger, but not in a way you're ever gonna actually benefit from. All you're ever gonna notice as an end-user is the extra weight.

>>32324167
Considering one of the big selling points of a shotgun is its versatility, and that semis will inherently cycle differently depending on what load you put through them?

Pump.

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>>32324043
>Remington needs to have a seperate division to make special guns, where they actually do a good job and make sure they work
>Treating this as though it's a good thing rather than making them Taurus-tier

>Meanwhile Mossberg's factory in fucking Mexico is putting out budget options that are in every sense just as good as their US-made guns QC-wise
>Meanwhile $200 Chink 870 clones are higher-quality than the ones made in the USA

>>32322079
>>32323838
Neither of these people, but bought a Nova as my first scattergat. Hands down the best choice. It's 4+1 if you remove the plug that it comes with. Extensions are also cheap

>>32324441
I can't deal with the euro look

>>32324425
To be clear, I KNOW that Mavericks are assembled in Texas.

But Texas literally on the Mexican border.

Assembled out of parts made in Mexico.

Assembled by Mexicans.

Hecho en Mexico

And magically none of them need to work in the "Special department where we actually QC our guns so they actually work" division of the company.

>>32324043
>Remington needs a special department just to make sure their quality control ACTUALLY works

>>32321265
I have an old police 870 with the 20 inch barrel, and top folding stock. It's not pretty like yours, very worn.

Does anyone make the 870 other than Remington and Norinco? I'd like a new production that isn't shit.

>>32321093
500 because muh thumb skin

>>32323754
Mossbergs are like that from the factory, bro.

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>>32321265
I just bought pic related (early 80s manufacture) for 250€.

Can't wait till it gets here.

How good did I do?

>>32321093
Ithaca 37

>>32324736

You did good kid, you did good

What's a good set up for home defense? I am considering a 500, should I go with a 20inch barrel for the 8 rounds or a 16 1/2 for better handing?

>>32324896
What did he mean by this?

>>32323674
visually, it reminds me of 90s videogames where you had to approximate the shape of a firearm with a limited number of polygons.

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>>32323627
>>32323674

>>32324921
He meant that he has a mossberg and wants to know if he should get a barrel with the capability to accept the 8 round mag or not. The barrel attaches to the magazine on 500s so in order to get a larger mag you need a barrel made for that mag. No guns retard.

>>32324896
Go with the 16.5

>>32321093
870. Ergos fit me better and I'm used to the safety placement.

Take care of your shit and even a new-production Express will last the rest of your life.
>hurr but which one would you go to war with?
Neither, that's what intermediate-caliber carbines are for. And this coming from a guy who carried a 590 during "war", it got used almost exclusively for door breaching (which it sucked at). The only time I shot anything other than a door with it was trying to longball a jackal out innadesert with 00buck. Never hit it because military buck patterns like ass.

>>32324896

>home defense

Ideally, a double stamped AR or AK with as many rounds as you can manage without compromising safety and maneuverability.

>>32321093
>not 590
You fucking faggot

>>32321192
Nothing really. I've been using an 870 express magnum for over a decade and I've never had an issue that didn't stem from cheap ammo

>>32324986
590 is considerably more expensive than either

>tfw 930

I deburred, cleaned, and lubricated it when I got it, and so far it cycles low brass trap loads just fine.

I do kind of want a pump shotgun if only just to put really stupid shit in it.

>>32324736
Damn that looks nice, I love wood furniture on shotguns

>>32324736
You won't be disappointed, I'll tell you that

>>32321093
500, the safety is fucking amazing

t. keeps it hot

>>32324954
No, he said he was "considering" a 500, and did not realize that you can't actually put a 20" barrel on a 500 to "get the 8-round capacity".

If he meant he was considering buying a Mossberg with a 20" and an 8rd tube, that would've made sense.

Also a 16.5" barrel is an NFA item, my noguns friend. Fairly sure he meant 18.5".

Either way the post was nonsense and your lack of experience with Mossman 5000s is pretty evident as you advised him to buy an SBS for HD.

>>32322840
Omega male benelli supernova supporter checking in

>>32321093
Own both (kinda)
wife has a beautiful 870 marine, that im always kinda jelly of, just a magnificent tool. but i cant hit the broadside of a barn with it
I have a 590 that just points naturally, and i am fairly surgical with, but i don't like the finish or safety.

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Remington Model 31. the action is smooth as fuck

>>32324254
I would never replace the polymer trigger guard because it's perfectly adequate for most situations.

>>32324967
>double stamped
Not him. Does that mean NFA tax stamps or something?

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>>32321093
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>>32325802
Yes, a double stamp gun usually refers to a SBR/SBS with a suppressor attatched to it.

>>32322872
Differences aren't enough to justify cost increase for most people. If they were same price, would consider a1. However, 590 suits most people not deployed to an active war zone just fine.

>>32323754
A: I bought it off my buddy like that for $150
B: He gave me all the original furniture and the forend is still janky as fuck.
C: My other friend has a 500 and has the same exact issue

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870
>Be in Canada
>Get this mailed right to your door
>Better finish than actual Remington shotguns

>>32322984

It's got a heavy walled barrel you simpleton.

>>32326599
>Canada

Kek

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>>32326789
I know it sucks... But I can have one of these for $400 (that's like 100 ameribucks nowadays I think) mailed to my door, so it's not terrible.

>>32321093
Mossberg is blatantly better gun.

>>32321100
I have one of these, it's a shame they don't make guns like this anymore, lots of neat features.

>>32321253
That image should be reversed.

>>32321093
I own a Mossberg 500 HD shotgun and a Remington 870 express

Mossberg
Pros: i prefer the position of the slide release and the safety. I also like the fact that the trigger group is sturdier
Cons: to extend the capacity of the tube you need a new barrel

870
Pros: dat old school feel. can add an extension on the tube magazine without changing barrels
Cons: safety and slide release location

That being said i do like my mossberg a little bit better than my 870

My brother gave me his mossberg 500 with the stupid green "ZMB" logo on the side...any suggestions for removing it/covering it up?

>>32322736
No

>>32322810
I really like that for some strange reason

>>32327006
Wire brush? Electrical tape? Aesthetics don't matter on a Mossberg 500.

>>32327031
where is the lie

>>32324896
Lolwut

>>32327144
Beating the hell out of any mossberg.

>idontthinksotim.avi

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>>32321093
>whynotboth?.gif

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>>32323674
It's real nice. Shorter length of pull compared to factory stocks=MAXIMUM OPERATOR

>>32321194
It's a better design than the Remington. I especially like having a pump driven elevator instead of the remshit's spring elevator.

I honestly couldn't tell the difference between these guns if you pointed them at my head and told me to name them. I should honestly get a goddamn shotgun one of these days.

>>32321093
Will the 870 ever stop being the king?

>>32321100
/thread

>>32329668
>hasn't been made in over 60 years

>>32321093
Mossberg 500 because lefty.

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you goys figure it out.

>>32326820
I masturbated twice to those legs, I felt the need to tell you that sorry

>>32329661
Happened years ago.

>>32329693
>no kidding
>doesn't make it inferior

>>32329717
How? It's still the best selling shotgun in America. Mossberg still hasn't been able to top them.

>>32323150
>dominion grizzly
I'm going to pick one up. The 12.5" model. Don't care for mag fed really but I'm going with the tube fed I can't wait. I have a fetish for short barrel firearms, right now my favourite firearm is my Rossi ranch hand in 45 colt with a full stock on it

>>32322550
This. 200 bucks and it has NEVER let me down.

>>32326599
Where did you buy the grizzly? I'm >>32329795

>>32321121
I wish the used the maverick style trigger safety on their pistol grip models. The safety location is the only reason i wouldn't get a pistol grip mossberg.

All the 870s the army has are beat to shit and I fucking hate them. The slide release turns into a fucking knife. I've shot 590s a bunch and love them but I'm thinking about a weatherby PA459

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>Mossberg
>berg

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>>32330251
>tfw have -berg last name
>kike nose
>actual kike
Makes me laugh every time.

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Mussbergs are just gross.
I mean, they are functionally inferior to the 870. But the ugliness. How can you stand the ugliness just to save a few shekels?
Gross.

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rattlegat masterrace reporting in. 870 fags go home

>>32329955
>The safety location is the only reason i wouldn't get a pistol grip mossberg.

Ever actually used a PGO shotgun?

Birdshead >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pistol grip and the tang safety on a 500 is infinitely better-suited to it as well.

Also why not just put a pistol grip on a Maverick?

>>32329709


That revolver is gorgeous

>>32330929
>That stock
>mocking ANYTHING for being ugly

>>32331089
Holy shit. That crap heap is where you live? At least you're flossing... Unless you use that pleb flosser for something that matches your taste in pleb guns.

>>32331125

>That crap heap is where you live?

uh..well its a room of my apartment. Had my last final today and cleaning hasnt been high on my priority list.

Also, whats wrong with my guns? Sorry they arent aesthetically pleasing to you lol.

>>32321093
Remington have shit button placements as well as shit loading cover

>>32331125
>Think's THAT'S dirty.

nigga you should see the desk I'm posting this from.

>>32331242
Are you the anon that removed the cover from his modem so the roaches wouldn't live in it anymore? That would be fucking glorious.

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>>32331287


>removed the cover from his modem so the roaches wouldn't live in it anymore?

>>32331361
There's a screen cap. Shit piled everywhere. Exposed board with Ethernet cables hanging out sitting on a table or pile of shit. Someone asked WTF it was. That was his answer.

Almost as bad as a Mav 88.

>>32321093
All my serious shotgun work has been done with an 870 from clays to rabbits to slug hunting white tails (fuck southern Michigan hunting laws, btw) but honestly I think the first shotgun I buy won't be an 870. It's a toss up between a 590A1 and a Benelli m4. I suppose the real determining factor will be if I have the patience to save up for the Benelli.

>>32331646
nice blog post

>>32322925

>lefty

Absolute degeneracy

>>32323674
It's more comfy than it looks. I prefer it to factory furniture.

>>32321093
Mossberg. I wouldn't use a pistol grip for a pump, so the moss safety and slide release is a superior option.

If you ever plan on using a pistol grip, 870 is better

>>32321093

500

>>32331692

left handed master race

>he cant actuate the bolt release on his ar with his firing hand

lol

>>32329709
Do you love your 336 like I do?

>>32321093
>>32321953

Ithaca 37 (Trap)

>>32331797
Except everyone with a BAD lever can.

>>32331850

>spending money on the luxury of htting the bolt release with your firing hand

what a cuck

>>32331858
It's a righty world.
Sucks to be you.
You know it.
Sorry friendo. ;(

>>32326599
now if you wanted to put a pistol grip on that, would it be prohibited and illegal? Or would you just register it as a restricted?

>>32321121
>replaceable ejector

Feel my pain. I just knocked the shitty rivets out of my free-to-me 870. It was free beacause it was broken

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>>32331929
Not him but can confirm as a devilspawn I yearn for the days where I would be beaten into a righty at an early age at school. Would just make life easier.

I thought Remingtons came rusted from the factory.

>>32325286
BTFO

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M37 DS-PS, slam fire and #1 buck

I much prefer the Mossman 5090

>>32321093

early 00s 870

It's fine, just fine.

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>>32321265
I was just gifted an 870 Wingmaster and can attest to its quality. It is a 76 or 88 and is really sweet.

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>>32334345
Lmao only a single action bar kys

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>>32321093
Does anyone still here have any opinions on the weatherby pa-08

>>32321953
that was me and my buddy's first shotguns. we had found one each from different people in the same week for almost nothing.

they were beat to shit and mine had broken action bar, and the little screw for the shell thing was missing, and his had a fucked up extractor.

they looked like utter shit, and were rough as fuck till we let this old gunsmith work on them as a labor of love, and partially because he cleared some land for him. this was late 90's, i bought mine for $50 in 1997, and sold it to my grandfather for I think $250 since it had been refinished and looked really sharp. that old guy was a damn good gunsmith and did right by us.

>>32334387
You are just jealous because yours has serial numbers.

>>32325008
>over a decade

Exactly, I had one for 14 years and it was fine unless I put crap ammo in it and the extractor couldn't handle it. The finish also developed rust no matter what I did to it. The real problems are with models made after 2007.

It's hard to find an action smoother than the 870's but the Mossberg was definitely more convenient for me being left-handed. The grip angle of the 870 also stopped feeling right to me so I traded it away.

>>32334401
It's a Turkish import but from one of the good manufacturers, that is all I know. Companies like CZ only make the high-end shotguns and they import things like pumps.

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>Rusty, heavy, piece of shit that's had absolutely no quality control in nearly a decade
Vs.
>Light, aluminum, work of art used by the military

How will I ever decide?

>>32331107
I would buy a telescope stock and pistol grip combo. I don't like PGO. I like mossbergs, used them a lot. The safety location is obviously flawed for any kind of pistol grip. Trigger hand pistol grips are necessary for CQB guns, in my opinion.

>>32331107
I would probably settle for a Maverick and an aftermarket stock IRL. I just don't like the blued finish. Makes it hard to maintain and paint over.

>>32334465
Yeah say that to my face meatball nigger

I couldn't find a 590a1 on armslist so I settled for a 500 persuader for $200. It holds like 8 rounds of 2 3/4"

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Another mossberg500fag reporting in

And theres a funny story behind the mismatched furniture

>>32334777
You fool. You absolute buffoon. You think you can challenge me in my own realm? You think you can rebel against my authority? You dare come into my house and upturn my chairs and spill my coffee grounds into my Keurig? You thought you were safe in your chain mail armor behind that screen of yours? I will take these laminate wood floor boards and destroy you. I didn't want this war, but if it's war you want. It's genocide you will get.

>>32327324

Because then we would have no thread to shitpost in.

>>32322579

Dang, I was gonna do that with my mossy.

>>32321093
The kind thats still quality
Rattle shotty masterrace

>>32325286
>>32334210
Samefriend

>>32334357
Why you guys call it a mossman?

>>32334380
That's beautiful

>>32334856
Let's hear it lad. Also what kind of shells? I want black shells for mine =[

>>32329709
Why is that nugget so lo-
Oh, bayonet.

>>32331824
i do like it but it sat at my aunts house for song long the chamber developed so surface rust. I just got it to not seize up after shooting.

>>32336277
they are pretty much pikes.

>>32336428
Damn dude. Did you take some Ballistol to it?

>>32324257
Ghost rings are superior when using slugs is what I got out of your post.
I agree.

>>32321093
I don't like where the action release is on the 870.

I really don't like it.

>>32337633
Yea, Ithaca was smart putting it on the right side of the trigger guard.

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>>32321093
mossberger

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>>32337761
Did you wet the fucking bed?

>>32321093
Remmington. Always felt so much more sturdy and heavy. Love that in a weapon.

>>32338504
Boy that's his shadow

>>32338504
Not him but that's a fucking shadow you halfwit

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Glock 19, look nowhere else for your personal firearm needs. Best gun in the world

>>32322550
Holy shit anon. Get a sex change and I'll marry you.

>>32338564
yeager pls

>>32324527
>hecho end Mexico

Just like cleto Reyes and I love those too

Mavericks are clearly the winner in this thread

>>32336703
nah, i just pulled out some hoppes, a bore brush and a rag. I woke up a day later with a shiny chamber and clean butt hole.

>>32338830
Hehehhe
>>32338681
I thought he switched to Caniks

>>32332699
Restricted. But who the fuck cares I'd do it innawoods

>>32334339
Jesus fuck that is gorgeous

>>32335505
Because a news reporter called it that in TV a few years ago she was describing a gun from a shooting or some shit

>>32339012
Oh alright thanks man. Had been wondering that for a while.

>>32321192
nothing- Ive had one for 20 years and put a few thousand rounds through it with no issues

>>32339063
Yeah. Kinda the like glock & wesson. Some people get triggered I just laugh hysterically.

>>32322984

Shh... You'll ruin it for me. Let them buy new 590's (which are a great gun minus the price) so my friends and I can get them cheap.

>Get a used 590A1 for less than any of the shotguns barring the Maverick mentioned ITT

Also;

>Not a manlet, can handle a slightly heavier gun

Why do people freak out over even the tiniest bit of weight?

Is the 590A1 worth it or does it only exist because the muhreens use their retard strength to break a normal 590?

>>32339321

They're great imo, just buy one used.

If you're not a turbomanlet, you won't even notice the "extra weight".

>>32326857
Mossjew a shit.
Norinco makes a gun like that.
It can wreak havok on the web of your hand if your not attentive.
You are a true double nigger.

>>32321265
What's wrong with the new 870s compared to Mossberg?

>>32339306
if you ever go up and over a mountain, all those extra ounces add up

>>32339487
From personal experience I can tell you that they won't cycle cheap ammo without a new extractor and a polished chamber.

>>32321562
Mossberg 590 is better

>>32322123
Yeah buddy. I'm the only person I know irl with one. Got the glossy stocked walnut.

Just wish I had bought a rifled barrel way back when. A rifled barrel will cost me more than the gun did now.

>>32339524
870 is still the king though. Take your poorfag shit elsewhere.

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I'm thinking about buying this Chinese 870 clone. It's a Hawk Pump and it's currently listed for $206 on Bud's. I've been thinking about getting one of these for a while, but I could never find it in stock until now.

I'll probably get some nice, police style wood furniture for it down the road.

>>32322005
Is that the sound of rusted material rattling inside it?

>>32324227
better trust that seal with your teeth

>>32338520
>his shadow wet the bed
nice /x/ tier damage control

>>32338556
a shadow cant wet the bed retard

>>32339763
Own one, can testify that its not bad. You can tell its a knockoff though

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>>32323674
the lop is easily adjustable due to the spacer system...

has ambi slots for loop-type slings and holes for magpul's quick-detach slings (magpul also offers an attachment for clip-type slings)...

has a cheek riser (sold separately) for use with optics...

is secured to the receiver via an easily accessible 1/4" hex head bolt...

weighs only a couple extra ounces compared to the factory polymer...

the grip angle is comfortable and versatile... however, it is quite unique & i recommend fondling one before purchasing...

its a very good stock.. i personally prefer the factory ergos

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>>32340249
>>32339763
correction, mine is the Ghost Ring sight version. No idea how sturdy the rail mount is.

>>32340225
K

>>32340288
What is that top left?

>>32339306
>Why do people freak out over even the tiniest bit of weight?

Confirmed for having never needed to walk any kind of serious distance with weight.

If it's just as good and weighs less (which is ABSOLUTELY the case with the 500 and 590 vs the 590A1), why the fuck would you go with the heavier option?

>>32321093

590a1.

ive got a 500 persuader, but I really want a bigger tube on it.

>>32340750
I think the only people I've heard bitch about an extra ounce of weight are women. If 6 ounces is going to break the camels back you haven't trained sufficiently.

>>32339321
>Is the 590A1 worth it
No

>does it only exist because the muhreens use their retard strength to break a normal 590?
Not even that. I don't think even muhreen retard strength would break a 590. The 590A1 only exists because brass was afraid muhreen retard strength MIGHT break a 590.

I'm not saying 590A1s are bad. I'm just saying that their """""upgrades""""" over the 500 and 590 are completely unnecessary and an excellent example of the military using something not making it better.

>>32339763
My buddy likes his Hawk 982 better than his 2010 870.

>>32321953

i have one that is an americana special, it us very light and fun to shoot clays left and right handed with it.

however it has some design issues, and the one ive got some retard torqued the barrel the wrong way and fucked up the mag tube at the end. still shoots like a dream, but kinda sad someone didnt care about this one. I guess if you ordered 20 or so shotguns from ithica at once they gave you an americana for free.

>>32340525
a drawer

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I have a 590A1 and i love it it seems to recoil less than any other 12 gauge i have shot. It might be to the heavy barrel keeping the barrel from rising as much but im not sure.

I have a 1300 also but it seems light duty for some reason. I dont know if its because of the rotating bolt or what. Also the grip is to fucking fat and i have big hands

>>32340772
>You guys are pussies because I want to carry unnecessary weight for no benefit.

Once again, spoken like someone who's never had to actually burn miles with weight.

You can call me a pussy all you want but I hike a LOT with weight, professionally, and I don't know anybody in my line of work who would go with a more expensive, heavier option that isn't actually more durable than the cheaper, lighter option.

I actually don't know if the 590A1 being better is fuddlore or mall-ninja faggotry, or some unholy synthesis of the two, but good god does it bring the retards running.

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>>32340288
What caliber is your ranch hand?

>>32340920
Congrats, you're bitching about 6oz. You are either a woman or just climbed your way out of Auschwitz. That is 3/4 a cup of water. That is nothing in the grand scheme of things if you pack smart and don't hump a pack that is at or exceeding your weight limit it will not make a damn bit of difference.

>>32321321
whats wrong with smith and wesson?

>>32340847
Oh. Okay.

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>>32340981
I'm not "bitching about six ounces." I'm saying the 590A1 isn't more durable and doesn't perform any better than a 500 or 590 and only a fucking retard would prefer a heavier option for no tangible benefit. The actual weight difference is irrelevant.

The whole point about "who cares about a few ounces" is a LOT of people care about a few ounces when carrying around weight is something they do regularly.

Since you're a fucking retard, you've managed to not actually argue with either of these points in any of your posts.

So probably you should kill yourself.

Where do Benellis and Ithacas factor into this?

>>32321093
Well, ive recieved an 1100 and an 870 for free do far, so Im an 870 man

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>>32321093
I've seen countless 870 clones, almost as many 37 clones and even a few 1300 clones but never a 500.
Do they exist? The patent on the remington model 31 isn't getting any more expired.
Did mossberg outcompete them by making their own clone in the maverick 88?

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I am 5'7" 105 lbs
a jug of milk is heavy for me
should I buy a Mossberg?

>>32342535
That depends, how well do you take recoil?
One of the main advantages of a heavy shotgun is recoil absorption

>>32321121
Pretty much this.

I like how much easier my 870 is to take appart and reassemble, and the old wingmasters action is nice and smooth, but otherwise I have to go with my mossman.

I wouldn't even consider a new 870 express.

>>32334480
i guess i can't speak for post-2007 models as I've been using one 12ga (my 870 express mag) my whole life. if you get a chance to fingerfuck the one you'd buy beforehand, you can probably weed out most of the dogs without firing a shot.
as for the finish, i guess that's the operating hazard for budget guns? my gun's definitely not the prettiest after a decade of hunting/skeet shooting, but some basic maintenance 2x a year goes a long way.
i understand the ergos thing though, if it's not comfy you're not going to want to shoot it. different strokes for different folks

>>32342521
>Did mossberg outcompete them by making their own clone in the maverick 88?
That's my guess. It's kind of hard to go lower than the ~$200 ask price on a Maverick without completely sacrificing quality, even if you do farm the labor out to China.

>>32341009
it a cheap chinese copy of a M9 bayonet. They just branded it S&W