Mosin thread

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>>32288259
Nice scope comrade. Are PEM scopes available anywhere?

>>32288259
About what? How all the roles it tries to fill, that a guy should just get similar prices Mauser?

>>32288300
I managed to snatch mine from a gun show a year back.

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>>32288259

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For you, OP.

>>32288300
Accumounts makes good reproduction scopes. I kinda wanted to make an m39 sov out of NOS parts with one of their scopes

Is the "get a Mosin for $150" thing a meme? I can only find them for around $300. Live in KS btw

It's a bad rifle, that about all the discussion there is to be had.

>>32290057
Yeah, you're like 5 years too late.

>>32290076
>"it's a bad rifle"
>constantly defends DDI in /akg/ threads

oh, buddy....

Make mosins cheap again.


I want one but if I'm going to spend $250+ on a WWII bolt action I'm getting an enfield instead.

>>32290133
Is there a good alternative that didn't get memed into being expensive?

>>32290213
Any modern bolt gun in the $300 range. If you must have milsurp, Mausers, Enfields, Springfields are all worth what they're going for.

>>32290057

Still somewhat true but only for us Canucks. Numbers matching round receiver 91/30's with good wood and metal start at about $180 syrupbucks and include the bayo and cleaning kit.

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Who here waiting for /mosins on mars/?

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I wish i had a nugget. Will 60 dollar nugs ever come back?

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>>32290493
Fuck yeah, I will never not love that cap

Is surplus nugget food gone for good? I after the election I haven't been able to find any for less than 50 cents a round desu. (if it's even in stock)

Did I fuck up by not buying a shitload of it 5 years ago?

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>>32288259
I still can't believe I fell for the nugget meme. That is without a doubt the clunkiest, shittiest, least accurate rifle I own.
fuck you /k/
>listening to /k/ ever

>>32290638
>wah it's the rifles fault I'm cross-eyed!

>>32290567
Ukraine is buying it. Once they stop it'll probably come back to lower prices.

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>>32290567
Bumping for this, where to procure cartidge for glorious rifle of Izchevsk Mechanical Works

Fired one for the first time today. It belongs to a friend's dad, and he also has an SKS and an Arisaka. 10/10 would shoot again

>>32288259
I wanted a Mosin because of The End in MGS3 before I found out they were cheap as fuck at precisely the time I wanted one.

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>>32288259
>Let's talk about the nugget, /k/

Mosina was my firstgun.

I am now up to four long guns and one pistol.

AK, AR & shotgun are their own brand of fun, but Mosina will always be the favorite long gun.

>>32290638
>t.noguns who didnt know how to properly inspect before buying

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Got my first nugget with sling and 440 rounds of surplus for $300 total. Eventually bought a Finnish VKT M39. Both shoot pretty good. What is /k/'s opinion on The Finnish Nuggets?

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>>32290759
>What is /k/'s opinion on The Finnish Nuggets?
Perkele.

>>32290759
Sexy but too expensive to warrant buying another mosin

>>32290554
Where can I get that?

>>32290774
I know that Mausers and other rifles are better rifles, but the cheap ammo availability for nuggets drew me to them first. Sure, its not as cheap as it used to be, but 25-30 cents per round is better than 80 cents to a dollar that ive found 8mm or .303 selling for. Still want a Mauser and Lee Enfield though

>>32290775
https://www.freewebstore.org/patch-dynamics

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>>32290759
That rifle has some GOAT tier wood on it, damn Makes Katya look downright homely by comparison. (Don't tell her I said that)

>>32290835
My M39 doesnt look quite that good. You can kind of see the stripes in the wood, but it is nowhere near that definitive. My 91/30 is in pretty good shape, all things considered.

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Don't get me wrong /k/ommandos, I do think that all great things in life come covered in cosmoline but...
>nuggets are way overpriced

If you want a fun comblock rifle that is cheap to shoot for a few extra bucks you can get an SKS (I'm in Canada, idk much about US prices but I'm sure you guys have some cheap milsurps down there too)

If you want a hunting rifle by the time you put a scope on a Mosin with current prices it will cost you more than Savage Axis. Plus the nugget will weigh more, have worse trigger and probably be less accurate than the Axis.

If you want something for home defense you can get a pump action Pardner for pretty much the same price as a nugget. Yeah it's probably not a great gun but it will go bang when you pull the trigger.

That being said, I own a Nugget, and it is fun to shoot. And it's interesting to even hold one if you understand even the basics of metalworking and mass manufacturing. When I took it apart I realized that ruskies started to manufacture their "last ditch effort" rifles before WWII even started.

All in all if you have some spare cash buy one. Just don't believe the meme that they are the best you can do for the money.

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>>32290057
I got mine for about 180 a few months ago

>>32291203
>Mugi with nuggets
>People will attack this for stupid reasons

>>32291203
>When I took it apart I realized that ruskies started to manufacture their "last ditch effort" rifles before WWII even started.

>TFW you will never bayonet a motherfucker with your nugget.

But seriously though It's funny to put it next to my AR and just think about the changes in manufacturing that set them so far apart.

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>>32290800
Wolf is selling out-of-spec steel .303 brit for 50cents a round

>>32291203
Improperly using greentext and posting a webm of an attention seeking dyke automatically allows dismissal of anything you say.
Also

>If you want a fun comblock rifle that is cheap to shoot for a few extra bucks you can get an SKS
That's not how it works in the US, it's considerably more expensive. And non-shit SKSs are rare to find.

>If you want a hunting rifle
30-30s

>If you want something for home defense
If someone is retarded enough to buy a Mosin purely for HD, they deserve to go deaf.

I want to buy every Mosin in the world so I can chuck them into the nearest volcano. Fucking trashy awful guns.

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I know absolute zero about Mosins. I just picked up what I think is an "ex-dragoon" for $150.

Worth? All numbers match except the bayo.

>>32291287
cool find. where'd you get it from?

>>32291287
The armory stamp on the side makes me want to throw up, but yeah, you did good /k/omrade.

@32291282
(You)

>>32291302
Kys mosinigger.

>>32291294
Private sale in Boise

>>32290516
God, I hope so. I bought 6 for $199, & just trashed them to basically make jokes about them here (painted them all retarted, burned one, put a ton of junk gear on another, etc). I have one left that's (relatively) un-fucked with...I wish I wasn't such a jerk to them, they're actually a fun little gun.

>>32290638
Serves me well. I think you're just an idiot.

>>32290057
I literally bought mine for $150 last month
>from a friend :^)

>>32292051
Got mine for 199 with bayo, and that's with inflated Commiefornia prices. If anything the only thing that makes it less worth it than it used to be is the ammo.

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This is the ultimate Nugget.

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>tfw Mosin seems easier to shoot and is more comfortable than lighter things like the SKS or AR
I don't know what it is about this thing. Everyone else talks about how much it hurts their shoulder but I almost feel like I could fire it all day long. The other rifles either feel weird or hurt after a bit.

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BUBBA PLS GO

RIFLE IS FINE

>>32294912
I wish my PU nugget had wood as nice as that. It's scratched like mad and has almost entire finger-sized chunks of wood missing on the surface in a couple spots.

My legs has a cosmoline soaked nugget for 150 because the fudd owner knows nothing about it. I'm gonna pick it up tomorrow. It's dated 1943 and looks relatively unissued

>>32295542
*lgs autocorrect

>Go to LGS
>want to pick up some Mosin ammo
>dealer hands me a box along with some 9mm
>pay him without really paying attention to amount because hey mosin ammo and cheap off brand 9mm
>get in car and finally look at receipt
>$30 for 20 pieces of nugget food
>$1.50 a bullet for fucking Winchester
>go back to store, lol sorry no refunds
Fuck me.
Always be alert and don't take anything as granted,

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>>32295612
>20 rounds
What was even the point?

>>32295542
1943 was a great year for 'em, snap that up

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>>32294701
nice

>>32295725
The scope could be better and it weighs so much that it might as well be classified as crew-served. It's still excellent to shoot.

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1938 laminated Izhevsk, the first gun I bought

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>>32294701

>>32295663
Wanted a top off. Typically only shoot it once a month, but pick up a box of ammo every time I'm in a shop just in case.

Found another store that does 20 round surplus boxes for $8 so it's that from now on.

>>32295829
how much cash do you have in this thing?

>>32295928
None. It was one of my service rifles (not the one in the pic though but similar). I don't think any civilian owns one.

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Got this Finn m91 in exchange for dropping a tree. The receiver is stamped 1900. Shoots more accurately than my 1937 Russian mosin.

>>32291287
you did good /k/omrade.
Gun show I went to had one, priced at $700.

>>32295663
was this pic taken in PA?

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The nugget has, by far, the coolest bayonet ever made.

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>>32296459
>was this pic taken in PA?
No.

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Picked it up at a pawnshop for around 150. The serial codes are all sorts of different, the bolt's is scratched out. Did I do good?

>>32296823
Depends on if you value having matching numbers or not.

>>32295989
You need to fix your potatocam

>>32296823
Are you happy with your gun and what you paid for it? Then yes. If nyet, then nyet.

>>32288259
All I wanted was to buy a crate of nuggets all for myself. Was that too much to ask? Why did the happening have to happen? Why couldn't my nougats prices just remain in the double digits? I cannot feel all these feels right now.

>>32290516
No.

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Who /refinish/ here?

I had to get some old fudd's turd-brown deck sealant job off of it. Redid it with MinWax tung oil finish and I've loved it ever since.

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>>32298158
Old girl even had some beauty marks underneath the inch thick layer of shit I cleaned off of it.

>>32290057
they still pop up for that price

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>>32296544
pretty sure the title of the coolest bayonet belongs to the swiss sawback bayonet

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Okay

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>mfw bought my 1928 91/30 with bayonet and 100 rounds for $250 USD

Feelsgoodman.

>>32288259
So I got a tula mosin sans stock in a trade. All parts are there and matching just no stock. What should I do with it?

>>32299485
Get a stock

Great deal at $50.
Good deal at $100.
Okay deal at $150.
Even deal at $200.
Bad deal at $250+.

That's really all that needs to be said.

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Finns knew how to make a gun

>>32299496
So I already have two nice fins and a decent Ivk, I was thinking of cutting the barrel down and making a sudo scout rifle. The rifle was free in the trade and is nothing special. Thats why I wanted to cut it down, tap and drill for a forward mount for a scope, and maybe thread it for a muzzle device.

>>32296823
>Did I do good?
Yes; $150 is pretty good for a Finn-captured M91/30. Don't worry about the mis-matched numbers; the Finns only cared about matching the bolt to the rifle.

>>32300047
>rubber on the bolt

What a sissy.

>>32290649
>get 1-2 MOA groups with at least 5 other rifles I own, maybe more
>5-7 MOA groups with shit nugget
Yeah, I'm sure it's the shooter.

>>32290746
I had owned guns for 20 years before I bought that nugget. I did my research before I bought it and I knew what to look for. The rifling is pristine. The crown is perfect. By all rights it should be an accurate rifle. It's just not. Even with quality modern ammo.

>>32291338
>I have no argument so I'll name call
That's fine. My feelings remain unhurt.

The fact is, that of all of my milsurp bolt action rifles (currently 17) the Mosin is the least accurate one I own. I absolutely hate it but I'm not going to get rid of it. That's one thing I cannot and will not do unless absolutely necessary is sell a gun.

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>>32295542
Update: just bought the nugget and cleaned off cosmoline. And it has plugged drill holes. Did I just buy an ex sniper for 150?

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>>32290493
>>32290554
We're literally on the approach vector to that future right now. This is a political ad in Russia.

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>>32302636
And this is a billboard in Russia.

>>32291246
When are the T91 uppers coming?

>>32296544
how effective is that kind of bayonet design anyway, wouldn't a knife be better?

>>32302959
It's a three edged stabby bit designed to be used for thrusting instead of slashing.

>>32296137
The fuck? $700 nugget?

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>>32299513
Best be trolling, Bubba

>>32290213
The SKS is more expensive than the Mosin, but 7.62x39 is half as expensive as 7.62x54R. You get a lot of bang for your buck with the SKS.

Unfortunately the cheap surplus bolt guns seem to have dried up

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I bought your standard 91/30 a few years back. Got all the cosmo out of the wood and checked the firing pin length. I am about to go put a few rounds through it here soon

In all of your experiences how does it typically hit on target? I don't expect it to be a tack driver but will it hit fine on a dinner plate size target from 50-250m? I have some tulammo and ppu to try out on it.

>>32304450
It will likely not be zeroed. Get a tool to push the sight left or right. It's also likely to be shooting a bit high, which is normal. "Belt buckle hold"; aim at the bottom of the target or just below it.

It'll print 3-6 inch groups at 100m depending on the quality of your rifle and the ammo you shoot from a rest. If you're really lucky you might get around 2MOA.

>>32304450
Note that they are usually sighted to be fired with the bayonet on. Removing it changes the point of aim significantly

Just bought a 1932 hex the other day, should I refinish and add a scope? Or leave as is? The wood is in really good shape and I removed all the cosmo.

Should I get a mosin soon since they keep going up in price? I already own guns and I know the mosins arent be all end all, I just like how they look wandtheir history. Will they go down in price again?

>>32305053
Probably not. Just make sure you inspect hard. Counter bore is not a bad thing, but bring a bullet to do the muzzle test anyway to check for bore erosion. Also check the face of the bolt for burs.

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>>32304582
this +1000
>is spear that shoot bullet
with bayonet on i can hit beer bottles form 50 uyards

>>32290057
>tfw got mine for $170 2 years ago
should have bought more

>>32290057
In the good old days ( 2009-11 ish) You could get these things for 80 bucks. The ammo in a 440 round crate was another 90 bucks. It was an amazing bargain.

Nowadays that value isnt there anymore. The rifles are 300 after shipping and transfer and the surplus ammo isnt around much anymore. The mosin has gone the way of the SKS. There are simply better rifles for a poorfag to get into.

>>32302610
Yes.

>>32288259
Is steel cased ammo bad for the Nagant?

>>32306964
we got an m44 for like 70 bucks back in like 2007...

>>32307067
Examples of said rifles pls?

I have a mosin but I'd totally grab another cheap rifle if it's reliable

>>32307500
>the military ammo produced for over a hundred years has all been steel cased

>>32307645
>if its reliable
You know its kind of annoying that people always ask this. Unless a gun is a total humongous piece of shit that nobody would recommend in the first place, the gun is going to be fucking fine. A cheap gun in your price range, which seems to be the range of "i have a few hundred dollars and I just want another gun to boost my numbers" is going to be a bolt action. Bolt actions are pretty fucking reliable. Most semi autos are more reliable than you will ever need for your once every 3 months range trip to shoot 40 rounds anyways. Keep it maintained and you'll be fine.
Buy a savage in 308. Full size rifle, you can get them for like $300-400 to fit your budget and throw a bushnell scope on it I'm sure. Steel case 308 pops up for pretty cheap sometimes if you look, and surplus german brass case can be had for $.50 a shot.

Good god I fucking hate mosin fags. I got rid of mine because of the stigma of being a mouth breathing poorfag every time I shot it was too much. Fun gun for $100, mouth-to-foot retarded for $200

>>32288300
that scope is mounted so high I could never get a cheek weld

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>>32307743
>has all been steel cased
Russians didn't start making steel-cased x54R until after WW2 IIRC. My 1929-vintage Russian L-ball is brass-cased.

>>32307780
Neat, I learned something. I do have some 1945 ball on stripper clips that is steel cased. Shit still works great.

What is your opinion on the obrez /k/?

I'm looking in getting a Mosin Nagrant and the only one in my area has Camo and arch angel stock and is also in a packaged deal with a Savage Axis at $450. Not sure if I should just wait and get the package deal and possibly sell off the Savage. Any advice /k/?

>>32308550
why do people shit up historical rifles?

>>32308799
I don't know man I'm really contemplating sending him aggressive emails cause its the only thing holding me back on the purchase. Need someone to tell me its ok to buy that

>>32309003
What's it look like?
Post a picture

ask him if he has the original stock and shit

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>>32309099

>>32291223
>stupid reasons
>being a trap attention whore isn't a stupid reason

>>32309144
Email him and see if he has the original stock
I would imagine the paint on the metal parts would come off easily with some paint remover

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>1943 Tula hex
>1912 Izhevsk receiver
>refurbished twice
The stories this rifle could tell

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>>32309343
>best nugget in thread

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>>32309354
>not ex dragoon
>M91

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>>32309369
Muh nuggets together

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>>32300350
Tried shooting it with the bayonet?
On some Nuggets it helps. Mine all shooting about 2MOA without but some do shoot much better with their bayonet.

>>32302636
maria katasonova?
nikto, krome nas?
what does it mean?

>>32290554
I just got mine today. I have a huge hate-boner for our politicians, but I found the concept too amusing

>>32308054
I want one

Ive got an m39 with SKY on the reciever, from what i gather that means it was made for the finnish civil defense. Thats pretty neat i think.

Ive got nothing else to contribute.
How hard do you think it would be to make a repro bayonet for one?

>>32299848
I'm not so sure if its finnish. Its got a USSR stamp above the 1939.

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>>32290057
Bought 1 today for 300 in Ca. No regerts

>>32291317
What the fuck is this autism

>>32290759
How the fuck did you get that for 300? I can't find them for under 500

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>>32311095
Captured by Finland, not made by. It's got a Finnish-made replacement stock, cleaning rod and sling swivels.

>>32307645
Pretty much any modern budget hunting rifle will be more accurate. And some even come with a scope. http://www.academy.com/shop/pdp/mossberg-patriot-308-win-combo-bolt-action-rifle-with-scope

>>32309354
God fucking damnit those are such nice markings. I wish the Sestroy's were easier to find.

>>32291246
Have you used this in an enfield?

I haven't gotten any .303 from Wolf yet. I usually like there stuff for my SKS and 9x18 pistols though

>>32312154
There's one on GB but the markings are super faint(like a lot of sestroryetsk) and the year is illegible. Still, last one i saw was an 1894 and sold for like $800

>>32312315
And that last one was at least 5 month so ago. I almost traded my Sestroryetsk for a 1944 Tula M44 but decided against it because it would have been very hard to replace the Sestroryetsk

>>32312329
Yea, dont get rid of it. Hold on to that shit.

>>32288259
I don't care about the shit price compared to what it was, but I fucking want one. What is the best deal I can get online, and what big box store would have the best average deal for it.

I have a nice Hex receiver 1930 mosin with 2 spam cans, how much should I ask for it?

>>32312375
I'm not going to sell it. No way. they rent way too hard to find.
>>32312388
Spam cans are selling for 170 plus right now. 185 for the rifle, I wouldn't go less than 175.

>>32312388
wait 5 more years then sell
prices are still rising, wait until they stabilize a bit

>>32302959
Pretty effective, and a super nasty wound. The spike widens the wound as it goes, causing further internal damage.

>>32310092
It's her campaign ad.

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Did someone say mosins?

Top is a Remington M91 from 1917
Middle is a Tula PU from 1943
Bottom is a standard Tula 91/30 from 1943

>>32314507
Well shit, that makes me want a bayonet for my Mosin now.

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How does x54R compare to something like .308 or .303 British?

>>32311471
Facebook, before they banned all sales of guns. It was a 1943 Izhevsk 91/30, in good shape. I think the guy just wanted to be rid of it

>>32311303
NV here. gotta deal and got the scope with it for $400 total. seemed like the cheapest so far as I have seen. really wish i got on the band wagon sooner.

>>32314927
x54r is basically rimmed .30-06 but power wise it's closer to .308 since literally 90% of the x54r weapons ever made are nuggets.

>>32307743
>I got rid of mine because of my imaginary fear that other people were laughing at me every time I shot it was too much

Corrected.

>>32314911
Yeah, pretty neat. Triangular/square bayonets are banned by the Geneva Conventions. So if you kill someone with it in war, you technically committed a war crime.

>>32315676
>Triangular/square bayonets are banned by the Geneva Conventions
No they aren't.

>>32307743
So basically you're an insecure fgt?

i got my first mosin at an fl gun show a few days ago. its a 1943 all matching with matching bayonet , and i got it for 250$. Did i do okay?

>>32315692
Prove it, then.

>>32316011
thats average price for nowadays. coulda dun better not going to lie anon. have you shot it yet?

>>32315676
What if I use it to spear someone who breaks into my house?

>>32316399
I think pretty much anything is legal in America, until the assailant is incapacitated.

>>32315013
Ok, I read wrong. I thought you bought an M39 for 300$.

>>32291287
Mine too has the horrid crap on the side of her reciever. I don't love her less for what bad men have done. Yours is only year older than mine, and better stamped. Good job.

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>>32316333
You made the claim; you provide the citation.

>>32316772
That's not how it works. The one challenging the claim is required to provide evidence.

>>32316772
>>32315692
Hauge convention.

>Art. 22. (e) "To employ arms, projectiles, or material calculated to cause unnecessary suffering;"

Serrated, triangular, and square bayonets fall under this description.

>>32316813
You're thinking of Legal burden of proof, in which the claim against the status quo is required to show proof.
In anywhere, but the court of law, the person making an original claim of a fact has burden of proof.

>>32316340
huh maybe its cause i was at a gunshow and all the mosins were like 315. no i haven't shot it

>>32317194
So basically, you have no proof and are trying to shift the blame on to me. Embarassing, Anon. Really sad.

>>32315652
>>32315938
Am I wrong? I traded my mosin and some ammo for a PTR91 so I'm not exactly torn up

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>>32298996
>wrong handed

>>32302636
Haha, the Donald looks pretty impressive as Soviet propaganda.

>>32316852
>Art. 22. (e) "To employ arms, projectiles, or material calculated to cause unnecessary suffering;"
So I read it, and there is nothing in the wording that specifically forbids any type/shape of bayonet for any reason at all. Conclusion: you're full of shit.

>>32302959
With spike, you can get like two whole guys in one go.

>>32317356
I'm not even not even the anon you're arguing with
>>>/kdrgrtn/

>>32312181
DO NOT DO NOT DO NOT
I made the mistake when I first got my enfield and it A. Makes the bolt handle impossible to turn and B. scratches the FUCK out of the mag's bluing.
Splurge on some good ole PPU Brass cased.

Anyone reload for 54r? Ive been thinking about getting some dies and playing around with various loads. I want to see if i can actually hit something with the sight ladder all the way up. Thats like 2km isnt it?

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>own an AR
>own a flock
>own a shotfun

I kinda want a nugget, but they're expense now. Wtf? I never thought I would feel an attraction to this ancient thing.

>>32318986
I was the same way. My 870 was the oldest gun I owned before my first nugget.. Then I just went on a milsurp binge.

>>32291203
why does she wear the mask?