Lasers

they're fucking cool and its fun to point them at shit but not into your eyes

>>32279222

>tfw as a kid we played with laser pointers and my right eye is permanently fucked from it and now I need to shoot left handed.

>>32279215

Save your money brother - and I say that from having bought into the hype and got Crimson Trace grips for my Sig P-229 back in the day I used to dry fire practice all over the house with that thing when I first got them. In that aspect, it was cool, but it didn't tell me a damn thing about how well I was actually shooting ( more on that in a minute ).

After about, maybe 6 months, I noticed that the red dot had become more of a red splash, it was well over the size of a quarter. So, I contacted Crimson Trace, sent them back and they sent me a new pair. Apparently the glass they used at the time, would be affected by the hi density light of the "laser".

Okay, fair enough - the new one worked well and I carried it that way for a couple of years.

So, I am at the range one day with a good friend, a much older guy who had done a TON of shooting his day and he says to me "You know that damn hi tech toy points TWO ways don't you?"

See, there in lies the problem. A bad guy will be able to see, not only where you are, but also what angle you are firing from. Anyone with any training is going to be able to assess the situation and find cover based on that information in a PDQ motion when their life is on the line. Then you are hung out to dry as they know right where you are and can start shooting back.

My vote would be save your money.

Ir lasers/lights are the only ones worth a damn

>>32279215
Had crimson traces on my 1911 from the factory. Screws up a high grip and didn't do shit for my aim. Can't beat a hi visibility front sight.

>>32279362
>Not just buying an IR laser and always wearing your NODs.

>>32279215
I don't want lasers on my guns. Lasers or "lazers" to the unenlightened, are not for aiming a handgun. Handguns have sights for that. Sights are awesome. Lasers are stupid.

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>>32279362
If you feel your life is being threatened and need to draw your weapon, chances are the person threatening you knows where you are already. (They will be looking at you in order to start the confrontation.)

>>32279215
It makes the most sense for either CCW or CQB type shit where you might not be able to 100% stay focused on your sights or don't necessarily want to have to shoot.

Some jewtube series where they do ccw sims drives the point that people can still act tough even when there's a gun out, but the laser on them gives them that oh shit factor that otherwise might not translate when drunk or whatever

And other times would be like swat guys who are looking god damn everywhere besides their sights to make sure they don't get neck shanked but still need something to help their instinctual aim if they're not completely on sights

>>32279362
This is the kind of fuddlore that decries weapon lights on HD guns. Do your own research, check facts, then make a decision for yourself. Some dudes opinion at the range means about as much as mine.

>>32283441
Gonna have to agree with this. You gotta weigh the pros and cons for yourself. You may give away your position but if you feel like you can make better shots it might be worth looking into.

>>32279215
Just get good at point shooting, it will be quicker than a crutch laser sight