Good shoot? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLh -LPzlijY

Don't have enough information to tell. The fact that the video starts with the officer already with a long gun in hand suggests there's important context regarding the call he was responding to that we don't have.

>>32264840

The guy was slowly walking up to him, bad shoot

Why is it deemed necessary to put like 5 rounds into someone's chest if they are carrying a knife, I'd understand if he had a gun or was running towards the officer. Even still Police in the Uk have managed to effectively disable offenders carrying knives through either non-fatal shots or non-fatal devices such as the taser.

>Just realised this is /k/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uf5fG7Ehs90

If it was a callout to a potentially dangerous individual why is there only one officer

>>32264870
http://www.timesfreepress.com/news/local/story/2016/aug/20/mshot-and-killed-police-east-ridge/382230/

>The incident began at an AutoZone on Ringgold Road around 6 p.m. when East Ridge police responded to a report of a man wielding a knife there, according to Matt Lea, a spokesman for the sheriff's office.

>Long said he didn't see anything in the man's hands, but another witness who asked not to be named said he was sitting in a car nearby and witnessed the shooting. He said the man had a stick or pipe in his hand that he was using to hit the ground before being shot.

Bad shoot, he was clearly unarmed. You could see both hands.

>>32264881
People are easy to kill eventually, but difficult to stop immediately. If he's alone with no backup and a man is within bludgeoning distance with a single lunge, screaming death threats and refusing to stay away from the officer, an officer is supposed to use a single-shot TASER and hope it works on the first try?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y49rv3QBtkk

http://www.tactical-life.com/firearms/multi-gun-counterstrikes/

>Bill emptied his Ithaca 12-gauge shotgun into a pair of heavily armed gunmen, only to find both of them still up and running after a total of five solid 00 buckshot hits.

>Transitioning to his S&W Model 10 service revolver, he pumped three .38 Special bullets into each man’s chest. By that point, both gunmen were down, but one was still trying to shoot him from the floor with an auto-loading carbine.

>Bill dropped his empty .38 and drew his specially authorized backup, a 1911 .45, and put seven rounds into the last gunman’s torso and the eighth into his head.

>>32264881

This is the state of affairs in the US. You are not allowed to point out that it would be reasonable to use other means. The cop was legally justified because the guy was carrying the metal bar and acting irrationally. That said, the cop could have used less lethal options. I think we need to also remove the requirement for them to shoot to kill. They have to shot to kill, otherwise there is doubt that they really feared for their life. That is supposed to keep shooting only to real life and death situations, but what it really does is require the cops to shoot center of mass rather than in the leg, thus needless deaths.

>>32264900

Why did he wait until the guy was so close? Why not use a taser sooner? Why not make some distance? The answer is, because he knew he could kill the guy with no worries. He did not place much value on the guys life.

>>32264840
How is this not an overkill?
>using an AR in CQ
>against some old fart who went bonkers
>said fart walking slowly and clearly not wearing any body armor
>aiming for the center of mass
>not even firing a warning shot
>not aiming to cripple
How about next time you bring a handgun in one hand and a taser in the other?
Otoh, the guy must've been mental, so now the streets are somewhat safer. Unfortunately, the bloodthirsty cop is still out there, too bad he's legally innocent.

>>32264920

it's not going to change until losing in the court of public opinion caries serious consequences or a death penalty. A moderate dose of street justice would do us some good.

>>32264900
Are you saying tasers arent effective? Why would they be issued to officers if thats the case. If not even a small pistol would have done the job, there was no need for a point blank shot from an ar, maybe the adrenaline got to him which is seemingly what too many american police have, if thats the case the US government should aim to train officers how to deal with high stress and high adrenaline situations.

Ive seen police videos of american police chases, the man gets out the car with his hands up and is then thrown to the grown and kneed by about 10 officers all shouting at him to "get down" while pushing his head down into the ground.

Also what this person said is rather sad
>>32264909
Surely a shot to the shoulder would have been as effective as what the officer actually did.

>>32264881
>why is there only one officer

Rural agencies can have backup times that can range from 20 minutes to an entire hour while traveling with emergency sirens and lights.

Police do not sit and wait for help if there is a man with a weapon threatening the public.

>>32264909
>why not use taser sooner
You don't use an unreliable single shot taser without backup providing cover to intervene in case something goes wrong.

>Why not make some distance?
Backing away from the man would put him farther in the street away from his marked police car and in danger of getting hit by vehicle traffic.

>>32264920
Warning shot in a residential neighborhood is either going to be a ricochet into who knows where or deliberately hitting a house.

Effective "cripple" targets are one quarter the size of effective vital zones and are usually attached to limbs that move far more quickly than a torso. Said "cripple" targets are also entwined with vital arteries that result in a quick death if hit. Rounds that miss the suspect and hit other houses in the neighborhood with full energy lead to serious problems. The officer (like the majority of police officers in the world) is not a gifted marksman. Do the math.

>>32264945
>Surely a shot to the shoulder would have been as effective as what the officer actually did.

See above.

If the officer cripples him, sure, you can debate it's better.

Officer misses and hits the subclavian, axillary, or brachial artery, also dead. Not better.

Officer misses completely and sends bullets into unrelated houses before being bludgeoned to death, much worse.

>>32264945
Ineffective when full electrical contact isn't made due to heavy clothing, a missed/glancing dart, gas failure, electrical failure... dozens more ways to fail compared to repeating firearms.

Ive seen police videos of american police chases, the man gets out the car with his hands up and is then thrown to the grown and kneed by about 10 officers all shouting at him to "get down" while pushing his head down into the ground.

Immediate domination by superior numbers is the safest way to counter someone possibly concealing a firearm or other deadly weapon.

Comparing American policing technique managing thousands or millions of concealable guns in civilian/criminal circulation versus European or Asian methods with rare firearms is folly.

>>32264977
You're not defending this officer are you?

Please enlighten me as to why he is carrying an AR

>>32264977
>Warning shot in a residential neighborhood is either going to be a ricochet into who knows where or deliberately hitting a house.
Or, you could aim straight up or down.

>Effective "cripple" targets are one quarter the size of effective vital zones and are usually attached to limbs that move far more quickly than a torso

Good thing the guy was moving at a snail's pace then. Surely, a trained LEO can hit a barely moving limb at 10 meters?

>Rounds that miss the suspect and hit other houses in the neighborhood with full energy lead to serious problems.
Maybe that's why the police usually issued with handguns and not rifles? God forbid a 9mm round shall damage a wall of a house or a patch of lawn, better just kill the guy instead and wash the blood away with a garden hose.

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The guy was carrying a water mains key, and was yelling at the officer that the officer would have to kill him or he would kill the officer. Suicide by cop I guess.

I suppose the officer didn't have the confidence to tackle the man physically on his own, and knowing that the guy was clearly disturbed, grabbed his rifle.

Once you've got the rifle out, you can't exactly pack it away once you've reassessed the situation, and you can't just leave it lying on the ground as you taze him.

The way in which he sprayed him was a bit much, but these things happen so fast, and hindsight is a wonderful thing. In any case the guy who got shot was looking for serious trouble, and he got it, so I don't have that much sympathy.

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>>32264920
>someone fell for this obvious bait

Either I'm being baited or this thread is full of Euroanons...

>>32264990
I'm annoyed at people posting comparisons to British police as if the two settings are remotely comparable.

Right now I feel neutral towards the officer. He made a decision to shoot a reported criminal armed with a bludgeon who wasn't following orders and within range to strike him. Decisions leading up to it were probably poor and rashly made, like most questionable shootings, but I don't consider that a crime.

Not how I would have approached it, personally. Visual on suspect, make sure he isn't actively harming anyone, maintain distance and wait for backup to attempt a less-lethal method of arrest like TASER or impact munition.

If he approaches me while I'm waiting and refuses to stay back, I'll be forced to shoot. Not sure if this happened to the officer, the video provides little context or build-up.

>>32265009
>straight up
A flinch or startle might angle it into a deadly arc.
>straight down
Ricochet is now endangering the officer.

Warning shots are never worth the risk.
If anything, I'd try to maintain control or at the very least an advantage with high intensity white light, even though it was daytime. Reduce his visual acuity and awareness.

>Surely, a trained LEO can hit a barely moving limb at 10 meters?
No. LEO are first and foremost paperwork pushers that have mountains of unrelated training requirements, firearms training only makes up a tiny percentage overall. Standards are rock bottom if not in a specialized unit.

Combine that with biannual or annual firearms qualification being many times the most an officer decides to shoot, along with the stress of pointing a weapon at someone screaming death threats instead of a perfectly still paper target, and precision drops precipitously.

>I feared for my life i was in danger

Today's cops are fucking cowards. You become a cop because you're not afraid of criminals.

>>32264840
Why does the cop have a ar-15 out? Looks like he ended a chance to kill someone with it.

Only time I seen a cop carry one was during a bomb threat.

>>32265053
Old cops committed a lot more hate crimes and gave a lot more concussions and broken bones to "problematic" citizens. Don't let nostalgia make you forget the fact that modern police are shackled by the legacy of Rodney King riots. Batoning someone who's asking for it relentlessly like many European or Asian departments would is no longer politically defensible. Killing them was made legally and politically preferable to breaking their legs.

>>32265049
>Being annoyed at people posting British policing methods
> Posting how a British policeman would deal with the situation

Uk officers have guns too you know. The reason why you dont see as many shootings is because 1. They are well trained and know how to correctly deal with a dangerous situation 2. Like you said make the right decisions in these sort of circumstances.

Im not saying British police are better, Im just tired of the brutal ways of the American police.

>>32264896
Yes, and you can see a lead pipe in one of them.

>>32264990
>why is he carrying an AR?

Because i and all my friends have one? Why do i give a fuck is a better question.

>>32265049
>A flinch or startle might angle it into a deadly arc.
Might. Or you could just kill the guy.
>Ricochet is now endangering the officer.
Ever shot at an unpaved ground at a normal angle?

>Warning shots are never worth the risk.
Riiight.

>LEO are first and foremost paperwork pushers that have mountains of unrelated training requirements, firearms training only makes up a tiny percentage overall.
Then don't issue firearms to people who can't use them for shit or don't dispatch them to any calls that might require the use of one.
Killing a person instead of even considering other options is outright Stalinist. "No man - no problem."

>>32265071
> Im just tired of the brutal ways of the American police.

>brutal

Wew laddy. All i see is a deranged lunatic getting put down. He did the taxpayer a favor.

>>32264917
no

you're just retarded

>>32265098

Great argument. That was worth saying, you must like typing needlessly .

>>32265071
>how to correctly deal with a dangerous situation

no

>>32265113
is faster than the bait you're using, faggot

>>32264881
Enough with the every life is sacred meme. If a degenerate dies who the fuck cares?

But yeah anon, let's be like Britain and hug it out with the mentally fucked so they can come back the next day and stab your dog.

>>32264945
>Are you saying tasers arent effective?
YES. Guns are far more effective than tasers, Tasers are single shot, low range, and can be stopped with thick clothing.
>Why would they be issued to officers if thats the case.
Because there are niche situations where taser can be used. When there are multiple officers, one can attempt to use a taser while the others have guns drawn. There is a backup in case the taser fails.

>>32265071
>two different countries
>two different populations
>two different cultures
>not understanding how the policing of each country could be different
>brutal ways of the American police

Just logically, you should be able to understand why and how the policing methods of the two countries differ. On top of this, the policing methods vary state by state, and city by city.

Also, these kinds of situations make up less than 1% of policing situations at large. To claim "brutal ways" is quite a bit parabolic and pejorative.

I'm not even American.

>>32265071
>Uk officers have guns too you know.
Don't tell me they'd deploy specialist armed officers in this same situation. Constables are unarmed and usually partnered up.

Nobody addresses how often firearms are used in crime in the USA versus in the UK. Guns are an everyday occurrence in one underworld while a rarity in the other.

>38 US officers feloniously killed with firearms in 2015
>Zero UK officers in 2015
>five UK officers feloniously killed with firearms from 2005-2015
>503 of their US counterparts over the same time period.

100 times more US police shot dead by criminals than UK police, for a country more than four times the population. 20+ times more police shot per capita over the past decade.

>>32264840
Seems justified to me, when will people learn not to walk towards the muzzle? Possibly suicide by cop.

>>32265030
Was this guy persecuted? Come on, if that's not being trigger happy than what is?

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>>32265160
then* ...

>>32264840
no? are you retarded or something, americuck? the cop retard discharged like 4 shots into his chest.

why not just pop him in the shoulder? or kneecap him? fucking stupid americans and their police with zero training. can just any redneck become a cop in the US or something? he'd go to jail for 30 years in any other country.

>Uniformed cop
>Suspect is armed
>Advancing toward him
>Ignoring commands

Looks alright to me. The bad guy isn't always going to be overt.

>>32265160
>Was this guy persecuted?
No charges brought, due to the shooting being a result of an 'accidental discharge'. Which seems outrageous, but it's certainly possible to unintentionally double-tap if limp wristing. If it was intentional, that officer is a real operator, which given the usual quality of police proficiency with arms, seems unlikely.

>>32265193
>Uninformed cop

you mean

>Untrained cop

right, americuck?

Who cares, he was White.

>>32265030
>that webm
Now THAT is trigger happy.
10/10 for technique tho.

>>32265202
All his rounds hit center mass. Looks like he was well trained to me.

>>32265220
wew lad

anyways, why is the cop alone in the first place? Had he had a partner the partner could've tased the fuk while the other guy keeps his rifle pointed at him, if taser doesn't work then try the rifle.

>>32265225
Most cops work alone now. Budget cuts.

>>32264840
perfectly justified.

If you threaten me with a pipe I'm shooting you the fuck to death.

Hell, you can be unarmed and I'm shooting you to death if you do not heed my plea to stop advancing when I try to back away.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2xbLV_NSbk

this is for the taser fags.

>>32265215
It's too good to be true.

On balance it seems more likely that the cop fucked up, rather than being a stone cold deadeye executioner.

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>Meanwhile in Britain

LOL! Any europoor whose police force are unarmed cucks have no right to talk, post or interject their shitty opinion.

>COR BLIMEY M8 BUT MUH ZAPPY STICKER GUN M8!

LOL! You mean a bitch crutch for effeminate la-la prancing euro"men" who have no killer instinct because their prostates were popped a long time ago.

How the fuck do you idiots plan to "protect and serve" when you aren't even to kill?

>>32265170
I'm impressed with the AK-74 ammo. Might have to look into getting one.

>>32264982
Stop this, you just turned the police brutality argument into a gun control one inadvertently.

>>32265149
It has nothing to do with guns you GrC CTR cunt. It has more to do with police officers being out numbered in most situations.

>>32265049
I think it's both honestly, I hear stupid shit like this from Europeans I work with, they think they're so high and mighty, and that our police have no morals
>>32265148
Finally, an intelligent post

Do US police not always operate in pairs?

Do they have capsicum spray?

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>>32265113
tasers arent reliable enough to insure a threat can be stopped.

A person with a blade can easily rush you within 7 yards to put a fatal stab wound into you, putting multiple rounds into the target is the most sensible thing to do to try to stop a threat immediately.

But who am I kidding, we all know I'm replying to a guy that can keep his adrenaline from taking over and can round house kick a knife from any persons hand while tipping his fedora at any witnesses to walk away like a badass like in his anime.

>>32265030
seeing as his gun fired before his left hand even properly grasped the gun, and a slight stutter step when the gun fires, I would say this idiot didnt do enough trigger control while practicing, probably some retard that shot his weapon at the range every once in a while but didnt care about any other aspect of the use of his weapon

>>32264840
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RH4V-Hkcv8

Another fun video.

Check out that muzzle blast.

>>32265635

There were times he was TALKING that he could have been TASING. I'm not suggesting that lethal force is out of the picture, bot tasering IS more effective than yelling.

>>32265790
Shooting is more effective than taseing.

>>32265716
Im so confused by this video. Why let him live, just to get your gf shot.

>>32265800

The most effective thing is to execute every suspect of any crime you come across, just to be safe. That doesn't make it right.

>>32265516
I think it depends on the budget. It sux imo, and ive seen a lot of videos when a solo officer got shot because of that.
In France its always 2 minimum in a car.

>>32265838
the most effective thing is to stop a threat as soon as possible...

and he fuckin did faggot

>>32265913
Idiot, it's fine to shoot when you have to.
Idiot, that does not mean that there was no chances to taser.
Idiot, go fuck yourself.

>>32265954
>hold on sir while I lower my rifle and draw my holster, you'll not approach in the meantime right?

fumble with your shit all you want, I wont take a fuckin chance with my life on the line

>>32265961

fuck off, I'm not wasting my time

>>32264900
>a 1911 .45 backup
>S&W Model 10 .38 primary
Lol, the good old days.

>>32264945
>no need for a point blank shot from an ar
What difference does it make what he was shot by?

>>32265972
Jesus christ you are stupid

>>32265716
>0:29

when your girl dyin but you still gotta blaze

>>32264870
Correct answer, leaning towards good shoot. Don't approach cops that are armed and telling you to stay and you don't get fucking shot.

>>32264880
What fucking difference does speed of approach matter? Once you're in hand to hand range you're fucking in hand to hand range.

>>32264881
Because you clearly don't know dick about how bullets kill.

The only instantly-incapacitating shot is one that disables the CNS or destroys the brain steam. Literally ANY OTHER PART that's shot leaves you able to run away, fight, or do what the fuck ever until hypotension demands that you sit or lay down, or just get dizzy, and eventually blood loss makes you hit the deck.

Alternatively, once you lose intracranial pressure, you're kind of done. Until that point, you're up and moving, and until you hit the ground, you're a threat.

One of the reasons UK shoots might so often be nonlethal is because they primarily use MP5s, and the handgun caliber survival rate is 6/7. The only wounding mechanism of handgun rounds, typically, is the primary cavity/impact. Rifles do infinitely nastier things to insides.

As far as nonlethal goes, they stopped carrying tasers because they killed too many people, so the taser was redesigned and now only has a 50% effective ratio.

>>32264909
You don't know shit about dick. You don't shoot for legs because it's damned near an impossible shot, especially if they're moving, even at close range. You shoot center mass because it's the least likely miss, least likely collateral from ricochet or miss, and most likely to stop both the bullet AND the person. You're a fucking retard that's clearly never been in a fight, let alone ever had to draw a gun.

>>32264917
Because tasers aren't reliable. You use tasers if there's another cop with an actual gun in case the single-shot taser fails to stop someone.

>>32264920
>AR in CQ
Literally nothing wrong with that, it's kind of one of the things they're designed for.
>Old fart that went bonkers
Is dangerous when armed primarily due to bonkers.
>Walking slowly
If you're in range to strike someone, you're in range to strike someone. The fuck does it matter how fast you get there?
>Body Armor
....how the fuck does that even begin to factor in?
>Center of mass
Because that's how you fucking shoot, retard. Aim for an extremity and not only do you likely miss, but you absolutely send someone into an adrenaline spike if you hit and most likely get yourself fucked up. But 99/100 times, you'll just miss, and hit something you didn't want to. In addition, rifle rounds have no problems penetrating limbs through and through, so you still have collateral to consider.
>No warning shot
There's a reason that's a felony literally everywhere, you mong. In the air and risk hitting something/someone, or on the ground and risk hitting something/someone/self from ricochet. Brilliant.
>Aiming to cripple
See above, you absolute idiot.

>>32264945
>Are you saying tasers aren't effective?
50% of the time, no, they are not.
>Small pistol
Probably, yeah, but why does it fucking matter? A shoot is a shoot.
>Too many police operating on adrenaline
Yeah, I forgot all about how it's totally possible to ignore/mitigate adrenaline effects. Good thing you're here to remind us it's a thing.
>Better training
Not a bad idea just 'cus.

>>32264990
What fucking difference does the weapon make if a pistol would have killed him just as dead, but with much less chance of a miss?

If I ever have time to grab a rifle I'd always take one over a pistol if for that reason alone.

>>32265009
>Straight up or down
...how fucking stupid are you that you think that mitigates the risk of either?
>Snails pace
Do you think guns obliterate anything they hit? You need to destroy a bone, that you can't see, and is a couple of inches wide in the leg to stop someone.

>>32265009
>9mm isn't dangerous if it misses the target
Are you fucking serious? It'd tear through walls like butter. Drywall ain't shit.

>>32265053
I don't think you understand that the word fear has multiple connotations. Get educated.

>>32265071
>Brutal
A guy with a weapon getting shot isn't brutal, Europoor.

>>32265085
>Might
No, absolutely will.
>Shot at ground
I've shot at concrete at 90-120* and yes, it fucking ricochets.
>Warning shots
Literally are never, no. The cop already issued several warnings. There is no justification for a bullet to leave a barrel without it being aimed at a threat.
>Killing someone instead of considering other options
You're a retard, he was armed and approaching, and the taser myth was debunked long ago.

>>32264840
>>32264840
Legally? Oh certainly. They're not going to jail this guy.

Morally? Nope.

But this is america, where wounding/warning shots land you in jail, and cops only do wrong years after someone is dead.

>all these soft Eurocucks not able to comprehend an obvious suicide by cop

Pro-tip; having a gun pointed at you is an incredibly motivating thing.. Rational human beings respond by stopping what they are doing and putting their hands up as the officer says. Morons like the guy in the OP disregard that and force the officer to shoot them.

inb4 bootlicker. Don't be dumb and your chances of being gunned down by a cop go down immensely.

>>32268595

>what fucking difference does the weapon make if a pistol would have killed him just as dead, but with much less chance of a miss?

here we go, look at the cuck who can't even hit a target from 2 feet away. if you need a rifle for that, you need to consider euthanasia.

>>32264990
>1986 Miami shoot out
>fbi agents have only pistols and a shotgun
>1 of 2 bad guys has a rifle
>fbi agents get fucked

>North Hollywood Shootout
>bad guys with home made body armor and rifles
>cops with handguns and shotguns can't do anything until one of the bad guy runs out of ammo and finally takes a hit
>other bad guy taken down by rifles

>Tyler Courtroom Shooting
>bad guy had an ak, open fires and kills his wife and son in front of courthouse, cops at courthouse couldnt do much with their handguns shown on video footage
>cop with rifle takes him out

Please, enlighten us why a cops don't "need" rifles.

hey i live in east ridge, but yeah that guy got owned

>>32265030

>Officer Patrick Feaster
>fat cop
>Officer Feaster

kek

>>32264840

Cop should have shot sooner, dude was closer than 21 feet. Lucky he wasn't killed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lk59imFr6yI

>>32268967
the man is quite frankly a lethal weapon in and of himself

>>32269707

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1YTE38hMgA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYwd0Wus5Ik

>>32268826
>I've never ever, not once, ever fired a gun after even a mild jog
>Probably never fired a gun ever
>Most certainly haven't fired a gun in fight-or-flight conditions

>>32265030

The driver of that truck was drunk and during that crash his wife was ejected out of the car killing her. Kinda glad this guy got shot dead by the cop despite it being obviously a bad shooting.

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>>32264840
If a cop responds to a call that isn't a bank robbery or a shooter with a AR-15 that is a bad cop he never intended to let that man live.

>>32264840
ITT lefty anons wonder why officer didn't just get on his knees and suck the perps dick so he wouldn't have to shoot him.

>>32272088
>never intended to let that man live
>once the AR15 is unsheathed it must taste blood before the safety can go back on

>>32273482
>Such is the law of the street. I didn't make it, but i have to enforce it

>>32264840

>doesn't listen to officer commands
>presents a lethal threat
>is subjected to lethal force
It's a good shoot but you can armchair quarterback anything you like.

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>>32265716
Holy shit that video is crazy. I'm in Florida now finishing up school but I might go to Atlanta for work. Even more reason to get my CCL, should've already had it.
>>32265800
Seems like by the time he realized she was hit, the dude was too far.

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>>32265170
>rifles are very phallic in nature
>wound profiles look like vaginas
>effectiveness is measured by penetration
Holy moly.

OP is a phaggot

>>32264945
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2xbLV_NSbk

Because they aren't always effective.

>>32268595
>What fucking difference does the weapon make if a pistol would have killed him just as dead, but with much less chance of a miss?

because an AR-15 rifle inhibits the ability of an officer to make an arrest, which is the socially preferred resolution to an incident involving a police officer and a suspected criminal.

He does not appear to be wearing a sling, where does he stow the weapon when his hands are occupied putting cuffs on the suspect? Even if he were using a sling, he now has an unwieldy 6 pound object dangling from him restricting his movements and getting in the way if the suspect resists being cuffed.

Using an AR in that situation was stupid.

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>>32265790
Tasering got nerfed to all shit.

Now it works like 1/3 of the time.
Cop in another thread told us about how shit they are now.

>>32264840
Anyone saying bad shoot forgot bout dat der 21ft rule. Dude with a 10" knife is like 8 feet away.

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>>32264881
You're stupidity makes me want to go full sperglord.

>East Ridge police officer Daniel Stephenson will not face any charges for the fatal shooting of Todd Browning

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>>32264909
A policy of "shoot to wound" would cripple the system with lawsuits most likely. "Why did you wound him there? Couldn't you have wounded him elsewhere? NOW HE CAN'T POOP"

>>32264920
1. Having someone employ a Tazer and a Handgun is a bad idea.
-What if he accidentally uses the gun instead of the tazer? This has happened many times, where someone has accidentally drawn a gun when they thought they had their tazer. Now the officer could be in danger but is also going to get sued.

- He is now less accurate with both his tazer and his gun.

2. People don't understand A GUN IS A GUN. If there is reason to shoot there is reason to kill. It doesn't matter if the guy had an Uzi or a Shotgun or a Desert Eagle. The shoot is good or not. Any gun can kill someone.

Would you feel he was better with a shotgun in CQ?

>>32265062
There is a middle ground between always shooting or beating until you've broken multiple limbs.

You've created a false dichotomy.

>>32265030
You can tell this one is bad by how quickly he reholsters.

>>32268876
In the 1986 Miami shootout the FBI tried to blame their standard issue revolvers, but the main reason they got fucked up is because their training was shit and the handled the whole take down wrong. Most of the guys had semi-autos, revolvers played very little part.

In the North Hollywood shootout, 5 LAPD officers ran to the since closed down (Because LA is gay) B&B Gun Shop and retrieved rifles, as they were outgunned. Just an interesting note. Cops went running to civilians for help

>>32264881
The purpose of training is to be able to act out of instinct when the situation arises. The training the officer receives is to effectively stop a threat by firing multiple rounds at center mass.

>>32264881
>If it was a callout to a potentially dangerous individual why is there only one officer
Why would the first officer just hide in his car and watch the dangerous situation play out while waiting for backup? The first on the scene has an obligation to act, because inaction could result in tragedy.

>>32264881
dead bodies can't come back and sue you later like injured ones... but the families left behind will try

>>32264990
>>32264920
I wouldn't matter if he was carrying an 50BMG M82 rifle, a Glock 9mm, or that AR. He's not going to shoot unless it's to kill the person.

Is a dead person MORE dead if they're shot in the chest 5 times with an AR than if they were killed by shooting in the chest 5 times with a 9mm?