Cali last minute gun buy

>>32252330
>buying an AR
>in California
I'd stick to some rifle that won't be fucked to hell and back and buy an AR when you move out of California.

Your pic is backwards. America would be better off if commiefornia left

>>32252361

Southerner here.

Don't forget, you're here forever.

We can't leave and neither can you.

Youre probably fucked, I called 6 FFLs and got rejected before finding one who would transfer my featureless gun

>>32252361

California contributes nothing to the nation and only siphons taxes from honest, true Americans to pay for their degeneracy and social justice programs. That state is a literal black hole that is draining the prosperity of America. If we lopped it off the nation would be so much more wealthy and prosperous. The state takes in so much more in taxes than it gives, forcing the other states to pay more to pay for their shit. Nothing f value socially and economically is in there, so if you lopped it off the rest of the country would be so muhc more prosperous.

>>32252409
They actually give more than they take when it comes to taxes. They are the largest state economy in the US, they became number 1 last summer.

>>32252361
A United States of Dixie would be great, though?

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>>32252330
>Thinking the Confederacy was a Republic.

Buy it quick you only have 14 days left before your fucked for good...also buy an ak instead

>>32252417
>implying

How do you thik they pay for all those welfare programs and "clean" energy bullshit and environmental programs and public education? They most certainly take from the federal government so much more than the other states. States in the midwest and south have to pay more in taxes to feed that bullshit while they reap the rewards of the country. Largest economy in the US my ass, with all their companies moving to Texas and Wyoming, theres no way anything of value is left there

lol, good luck

When I moved out a month ago and trying to sell shit so I didn't have to transport so many guns, most places refused to do FFL or PPT transfers for long guns, just hand guns. They wanted the space to sell their own overpriced crap.

Some would do receivers if it was short enough though.

>>32252448
They have one of the highest state tax rates in the entire country for one, and as I said they are the largest state economy in the country.

https://wallethub.com/edu/states-most-least-dependent-on-the-federal-government/2700/

Are you basing your statements off anything at all? You're just guessing at it. Also no part of the country is doing as poorly as the south, I live in LA and I can tell you that we are as short on cash as we've ever been.

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>>32252473
Hahaha, just end it now family. I fucking hate this state.

>>32252422
+1

>>32252448
Also California's GDP is 2,475,826(millions USD) while the second closest Texas, has a GDP of 1,244,695(millions USD).

>>32252473
>>32252498

Well whatever trust those liberal statistics. Human capital is much more important than any percieved economic benefits that place gives. It'd still be so much more beneficial for the country as a whoel to lose that dead weight, since economic gain isnt everything. People make prosperity and the peeople there dont give that to here

>>32252448

Read a book, anon.

The porn industry, entertainment, commerce, energy, technology, weed, taxes up the ass on everything.

>>32252535
Those are literally what those states bring in and they aren't liberal statistics, they're just statistics.

http://www.bea.gov/iTable/drilldown.cfm?reqid=70&stepnum=11&AreaTypeKeyGdp=5&GeoFipsGdp=XX&ClassKeyGdp=NAICS&ComponentKey=200&IndustryKey=1&YearGdp=2015Q2&YearGdpBegin=-1&YearGdpEnd=-1&UnitOfMeasureKeyGdp=Levels&RankKeyGdp=1&Drill=1&nRange=5

>>32252330
but the confederates were democrats

>>32252524
And yet the state has the largest debt in the US, and it syphons off taxes from other states.
>GDP.
Good Goy.

>>32252330
Are you going to get a featureless AR?

>>32252422
Is this a picture for ants?

>>32252535
>It disagrees with my opinion
>Must be liberal

You're just as bad as the SJWs with their echo chambers.

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>>32252560
>We pay taxes!
>State is so broke even if it did break away it's money would be useless.

>>32252637
The state bring in over two trillion dollars a year, I'm fairly certain they aren't deficit spending either. So long as they are able to service the debt it isn't a short term issue.

>>32252661
They ARE deficit spending. And if they bring 2 Trillion dollers why are they in debt?

>>32252330
that comic is funny af

>>32252730
Thats not how government budgets work. That and they actually were suffering from a pretty bad deficit from around 09-12, from which they have improved from which they are improving. When it comes to state economies California is doing fairly well considering we have states now that are almost completely dependent on the government.

Fuck California. They live in their little housing development prisons while burdening the rest of Americans with illegal immigrants, Bill of Rights-breaking laws, communist-style polling, massive amounts of new laws being added, and happily trying to subvert the American people while pushing degeneracy and victim-blaming while supporting criminals.

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Last thing I bought was a VEPR rifle and a Kahr pm9. I might buy a Redhawk if it falls off the roster

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>>32252566

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>>32252535
>>32252448

You can hate California for their shitty gun laws, but you can't hate them for being "leeches" on the federal government.

>>32252997
Except California's debt is through the roof and most of California's spending does NOT go into benefits and is wasted on bullshit.

Gotta read your own chart m8.

>>32253004
the amount of water California brings into the state is fucking retarded for being a state bordering the fucking ocean. Its all of their green laws they have

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>>32252807
They also constantly try to make America and the rest of the world liberal through their Hollywood movies and celebrities. Most of the world had forgotten that a conservative side of America existed until the election.

>>32253004

>Except California's debt is through the roof and most of California's spending does NOT go into benefits and is wasted on bullshit.

>Gotta read your own chart m8.

They have the most absolute debt, and easily because they have the biggest state economy.

If you look at debt as a percentage of GDP, it's about average. California is 18.2, Texas is 17.3, Kentucky is 19.7.

Did you drop out of high school? Math like this should not be hard to comprehend.

> the amount of water California brings into the state is fucking retarded for being a state bordering the fucking ocean. Its all of their green laws they have

Why don't you water your lawn with seawater and see what happens. Then drink a quart for good measure.

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>tfw if I ordered my NPAP only two days later than I did it would have been held up and sent back

barely squeaked through the closing door

>>32253104
>what is desalinisation

>>32252345
>muzzle brake/comp
>slap on fixed buttstock
>wrap kydex wrap over grip and screw tight
>your rifle is featureless now

Done.

>move out of CA
>remove kydex wrap
>have normal functioning AR

>>32252398
it's going to be a messy few months where everyone will not really know what to do and afraid to do until the bigger places hire a team of lawyers to advise them. After things settle down, you can bet there will be featureless or bullet button 2.0 being used.

>>32253805

California's working on it:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlsbad_desalination_plant

>>32253104
>Why don't you water your lawn with seawater and see what happens. Then drink a quart for good measure.
>what are desal plants
holy fucking shit, come on.

Another CAnon here. I'm glad I went with my M1A now, to be honest. Classic stock, so featureless by California standards. No bullet button, no "assault weapon" registration requirement come 2017. Regardless, gun laws here are still bullshit.

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>>32252422
Little Bigger

>>32253805
Extremely expensive

>>32253878
Not to mention it seems very disruptive to whatever chunk of local water ecosystem that it sucks in and poops out.

But after many stupid rounds of drought fears, talk of making another reservoir, then not because drought ends, I have to say that this really falls on this state's shoulders for trying to live way out of it's own resources and thinking can do so forever.

>>32252435
It was though?

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Is Bear Creek Arsenal any good? It looks pretty cheap

>>32252566
read a book

>>32252330
Get an ar7 alec

>>32252361
>>32252379
You should listen to us we know what its like to try land leave. We tried to Leave before some of yall were even formed.

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>>32252379

WE can.

>>32252426
That's how I interpreted it, and I am stuck in CA myself

>>32252409
NorCal is good farmland and good hunting land. Real America as it gets, fucked over by an unfair distribution of power centered in SoCal which is full of cucks, beaners, and other degenerates.
#StateOfJefferson
Help save your fellow Americans trapped in the Socialist Republic of Commiefornia.

>>32254960
We could. We have nukes.

>>32252426
Not really, gun rights aside.

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THIS IS NOW A TEXAS THREAD

SECESSION WHEN

>>32252361
Californians want to leave, most of America wants them to leave, why isn't this happening?

>>32255671
Democrats would lose every time if California left

>>32255829
That's a sacrifice I am willing to make.

>>32252997
Who woulda thought states with less money would need more aid? Cali only looks good on that chart because of it's population, the amount of money flowing and the high taxes on everything. Despite them having such a fuck huge GDP they are struggling and are deep in the red, much more so than any of the "useless redneck" states.

Fightlite, formerly ARES defense, is now selling SCR rifles again. Git em while they're hot and before the communists ban them.

>>32255829
That's the idea.

>>32255892
So much for balanced budgets when the only thing at allows you to have one is leeching from other states

>>32252409
You should probably do some fact checking before you make a claim like that. According to the IRS, California is a net exporter of tax dollars to the rest of the country. Somewhere in the neighborhood of $3 billion annually.

That's actually one of the reasons those Silicon Valley dimwits started that whole secession nonsense. It's the only reason that makes sense, and it's the reason that the Fed will never let secession happen. They don't want to lose the cash cow.

>>32252448
>with all their companies moving to Texas and Wyoming
It doesn't matter unless either Silicon Valley, or Holleywood, uproots itself entirely and moves somewhere else.

>>32252535
>Well whatever trust those liberal statistics.
Is anyone else waiting for these guys to crawl back under their rocks after they realize Trump is actually going to be a sane and reasonable politician, and isn't a radical like them?

>>32256316
>California is a net exporter of tax dollars to the rest of the country.
And illegals too.

>>32252997

They still would have a 50 billion dollar budget shortfall (the difference between taxes paid and funds received), lose half their land (owned by the US feds) and have about 2 divisions of nasty girls to defend their borders of they succeed in leaving.

I sure as fuck would want no part of that.

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>>32252997
>all those states going from a blue to red dot

>>32252807
>communist-style polling
>direct democracy is communist

>>32254224
Keep reading. The words might have changed, but the actors are the same and they say the same things.

>>32252448
>How do you thik they pay for all those welfare programs and "clean" energy bullshit and environmental programs and public education?

They mostly support thse programs through the state income tax. Just recently they passed Prop 55 which extends the "temporary" personal income tax increases on residents earning over $250,000 anually.

t. unemployed Californian

>>32253104
Kewl, I'm reading that now and all the blue states are debt-filled shitholes :^)

>>32256550
Direct democracy is nothing but mob rule. Representative democracy is still the best form of democracy there is.

>>32252409
Not really. California has a lot of value, and in fact it's the 8th biggest economy in the world. However, their economy can't function without the US giving them considerable amounts of money as well, so if they were to leave it would be lose/lose for both economies. It's just unfortunate that SoCal gets to decide what happens to the rest of the state, so everyone gets cucked. And the beaners, of course.

>>32252330

stop labeling it 'last minute'. there is nothing disappearing this year that wont be available next year

>>32253865
/pol/ git out

>>32252330
Can you show the panel where New England, New York and Chicago leave, too?

Please?

Pretty Please?

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Anons, I need your help right now. Please ignore all the shit posting, and let's focus on helping us CA anons get our "assault weapons" sorted out in time for this 1/1/2017 deadline.

Yesterday I bought 3 stirpped AR-15 lowers with the intent on registering 1 or 2. The guy at the gun store said that I'd have all of 2017 to finish the builds and register them as "Assault Weapons" if I should choose to do so.

But I'm reading on calguns right now, that what I was told was false, and that the builds need to be complete, with a bullet button, before 1/1/2017 in order to be able to register them as an AW.

>Can someone please help me make sense of this?

On the 15th I'm flying back to Texas for 2 weeks to see family for Christmas. When I return to California it will be December 30th, which means I will only have 2 days to do any last minute configurations and registrations, though buying any more lowers would be out of the equation due to the 10 day waiting period.

I'm panicking. Please help anons. I saw a tripfag named Greatcow in a previous thread the other night. I would really appreciate any help. Again, please ignore the trolls. Time isn't our friend at the moment.

>>32252330
>Anons, I need your help right now. Please ignore all the shit posting, and let's focus on helping us CA anons get our "assault weapons" sorted out in time for this 1/1/2017 deadline.
>
>Yesterday I bought 3 stirpped AR-15 lowers with the intent on registering 1 or 2. The guy at the gun store said that I'd have all of 2017 to finish the builds and register them as "Assault Weapons" if I should choose to do so.
>
>But I'm reading on calguns right now, that what I was told was false, and that the builds need to be complete, with a bullet button, before 1/1/2017 in order to be able to register them as an AW.
>
>>Can someone please help me make sense of this?
>
>On the 15th I'm flying back to Texas for 2 weeks to see family for Christmas. When I return to California it will be December 30th, which means I will only have 2 days to do any last minute configurations and registrations, though buying any more lowers would be out of the equation due to the 10 day waiting period.
>
>I'm panicking. Please help anons. I saw a tripfag named Greatcow in a previous thread the other night. I would really appreciate any help. Again, please ignore the trolls. Time isn't our friend at the moment.
>>32261837
Honestly as a south carolina resident... what the fuck kind of communist shennagans Is this. Are all new weapon builds banned after the first if the year?

>>32261837
>Yesterday I bought 3 stirpped AR-15 lowers with the intent on registering 1 or 2. The guy at the gun store said that I'd have all of 2017 to finish the builds and register them as "Assault Weapons" if I should choose to do so.
They have to be built in bullet button configuration before 2017, bullet button guns become AWs on Jan 1 2017 and assembling one after that date is a crime. Also the DOJ will ask for photos of your gun when you send it in, at least the rumors go. I've heard of people not replying to requests for photos for voluntary registration, and getting a letter back later saying the gun was registered anyway. It depends how draconian they decide to make the regs, but it's going to be hard for them to prove anything happened without a warrant. Just an observation.

*This post is a fictional work of satire and does not constitute the poster's personal opinion or advice

>>32262112
Thank you for your response anon.

Fuck shit fuck. So that shitter at the gun store gave me bogus advice when he said I had all year to complete my builds?

>>32262176
>Fuck shit fuck. So that shitter at the gun store gave me bogus advice when he said I had all year to complete my builds?
Basically. It's what everyone with half a brain cell counted on doing and talked about, while the ones with a whole brain cell realized spooks were listening.

If you're smart about it I wouldn't worry though. The DOJ might not even care about photos or documentation, seeing as they'll be inundated with hundreds of thousands of registrations to process.

>>32262176
calm your tits
https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billNavClient.xhtml?bill_id=201520160SB880
>(a) Prior to January 1, 2017, the person was eligible to register that assault weapon pursuant to subdivision (b) of Section 30900.
>(b) The person lawfully possessed that assault weapon prior to January 1, 2017.
>(c) The person registers the assault weapon by January 1, 2018, in accordance with subdivision (b) of Section 30900.

you dont have to register it exactly on 1/1/2017 youve got a whole year

2 the information they ask for is
>(3) The registration shall contain a description of the firearm that identifies it uniquely, including all identification marks, the full name, address, date of birth, and thumbprint of the owner, and any other information that the department may deem appropriate.

no picture

>>32262467
>and any other information that the department may deem appropriate.

>>32252566
H-haha, nooo, we would never do that! T-the positions of the republican and democratic parties just changed over time, t-that's all!

Now come on and vote for us slaves, or you won't get any food stamps from masta.

>>32262506
Look, I hate nigger lovers and cucks as much as the next guy but the "hurr democrats opposed the civil rights act and supported slavery" is a retarded argument to make.

>>32262495
as of right now there are no details on what that is
youve got a whole year to scrounge up parts nobody is going to give a shit if your picture is dated 2017. how were you supposed to know that you were supposed to take a picture of a complete gun in 2016 to prove it existed for a form thats not even published right now?

>>32262537
They could flat out reject any registration that doesn't include a picture or proof of purchase, they don't care whether it's reasonable or not. The 9th circuit and calicucks have been emboldened in recent years and will get shriller under Trump.

>>32253036
>oregon, washington state, and most poignantly the great lakes are not communist!

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>>32262467
>>32262537
My tits are becoming more calm. This article states that you can in fact buy stripped lowers in 2016 and register them in 2017 as AWs. And anon has a point, if photos of completed guns taken in 2016 were a requirement it would have been stated. Plus that gets real messy. It's easy to check if a gun was bought in 2016 though, and it sounds like that is the important thing - not that the build is complete.

http://gunfightertactical.com/assault-weapon-classification/

>>32262584
they could do alot of things but why would they deny the very thing they are trying to accomplish?
calguns is full of panicky fucks overthinking hypotheticals

>>32261426
Sorry, but its the truth if you don't take care of the commies in your state

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So if I understand correctly, registered AWs can have detachable mags and so can unregistered featureless builds, thus making bullet buttons completely irrelevant for all ARs???

>>32263149
if registered, or featureless, yes. that was true before the bullet button ban though.

>>32253805
very expensive and hard to do.
t. works in the water industry

>>32263149
>>32263715

Not necessarily. CA DOJ has done absolutely retarded shit like the Kasler list, where registered AWs on said list (added when DOJ determined that each bare AR/AK receiver was an AW just by model/manufacturer) couldn't have banned features or they were illegal contraband, registered or not. I believe they called them Type III AWs at the time, in order to differentiate them from the Roberti-Roos AW ban list from the '80s and the 2000 AWB, which were Type I and II AWs respectively.

We'll have to see what they do in this situation, but Kasler proves there's historical legal precedent for DOJ fuckery.

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>>32254960
>Mfw my state did a complete 180 and placed in its constitution that we shall always remain a part of the USA.

>>32253891
The problem is that there's no political will to make water more expensive.

That, combined with "high water prices for thee not me" with regards to agriculture and it's all a bunch of manufactured crisis bullshit.

Wake me up when the farmers stop pouring acre-feet onto alfalfa.

California is a cautionary warning of end stage capitalism and libertarianism
>most desirable place to live in mid-20th century
>obsession with economic prosperity and growth leads to humongous urban sprawl and massive imports of third world subraces
>social liberalism allowed to spread under libertarian philosophy
>when system declines, people turn to socialism because they are removed from their ancestors and spirituality in urbanized hell

>>32261837
Do. Not. Comply.

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>>32252330
wrong outcome

>>32262532
But...they did

>>32267586
We become Romania?

>>32262532
They did though. Lincoln beat the democrat candidate who won all the confederate states.

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>>32255538
>Real America
You disgust me.

There's over 350 million people in this country. You don't get to decide who the "real" ones are. Noone can!


Except pic related.

>>32262467
As someone old enough to have registered AW's from 2000, there was never a requirement for pics to be submitted. They MAY ask for barrel length and caliber but otherwise the pic requirement didn;t exist.

People need to stop speculating openly and giving the DOJ ideas.

>>32267634
Lincolns union army contained states that had slaves he gave no shit's about the slaves until the last year of the war and and even then he said they should be sent back to Africa read a book

>>32267662
Californians don't even have US citizenship lol. Unless you count Mexicans, El Salvadorians, Honrudans and Asians as American.

>>32254960

Actually, no you can't. Texas constitution says nothing about leaving the U.S.

The only thing Texas can do, legally, is split itself into 5 states.

>>32256550

>direct democracy is communist

It is though. It's one of the principle elements of Marx's stateless society.

>>32267670
DOJ have been asking for pics of certain c&r guns ever since registration of those was required a few years ago. Mostly just SKSes, but I've heard of some people get asked for shit that is obscure.

>>32256152
God why did they have to go from a totally badass name to a super faggy one?

>>32252566
Only in the sense that they labeled themselves "Democrats".

Sometime in the past the values of what it meant to be a "Democrat" and a "Republican" switched.

>>32261837
Ok so the way the law is written a bullet button is now an assault feature, so I don't think a stripped lower is necessarily an "assault weapon" if you intend to go featureless.

The deal with the registry is that BB-equpped ARs are now assault weapons as of Jan 1, so the registry is open again to grandfather those BB rifles in. The advantage to registering is that you can then go full baby-killing features including regular mag release because it's all an "assault weapon" anyway, but you're wide open to confiscation, etc.

If you go featureless, whether it's with the BB-reloaded (probably the better option of the two) or one of those hideous abortion grips, then you don't have to worry about any "assault weapon" legislation or registration. Look at the flowchart on calguns for how to do that.

In your position I would probably just go featureless. If I had a BB rifle already or something non-AR (for instance, my dad is still in CA, he has a big collection including a Tavor, and he's gonna be able to chop that stupid stock extender and fake can off) then I would maybe register one or two as an AW so I could go full-featured. Note that long guns are registered in the state of California so it's not like they won't know you have them.

My thinking is that featureless builds, especially on a rifle like the AR, are a moderate pain in the ass but still leave you with an unbannable rifle that can be converted back to full functionality in the event of SHTF or FEMA-camp uprising or whatever it is we have guns for in this country. I don't like the idea of owning a grandfathered illegal weapon that the state can confiscate, but I don't live in CA anymore so I don't have to worry about that shit.

>>32267662
In that case I'm pretty sure real American is defined as a citizen who is not a total fucking pussy; cucks, hipsters, feminists, numales, former Gawker employees, etc.

>>32261426
ops pic is more polshit than that edit

>>32268976

see

>>32262506

>>32267696
my favorite is the taco benders that are "latino but identify as white"

>>32268998
Thank you so much for your advice anon.

My plan at the moment is to buy 3 BBs after work. When I go home to Texas for Christmas I will strip my AR that I left there and overnight everthing but its lower to myself in CA (legal to do since only the lower is considered a firearm).

In my 2 days leading up to 2017 I will install the BB on each gun, and then take turns putting the upper, the stock, and grip on each gun, thus rendering each into an AW and thus allowing me to register them as AWs.

I can build featureless after the fact, but I want to register 3 AWs because I can and this is my only time to do so.

Again, thank you.

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>>32252345
Buy before Dec 21, register as AW, have normal uncucked AR.

>>32270177
To add, it can always be deregistered as an AW, but not re-registered as an AW.

>>32261837
Don't register it, go featureless. Don't give those fucks a single point of compliance.

>>32270177
Have it confiscated in six months once the shitlibs decide it's still too scary for you to own.

>>32252422
correct

>>32252409
Federally they give more than they take, but people who like to try to debunk the welfare queen may-may tend to forget about state taxes, state spending, and local spending.

CA does produce some stuff, but has to import a fuckton of water due to over-populated metropolises in the desert drinking it all at a rate that aquifers can't hope to keep up on. Then they pay some other place to drink it up and end up destroying that one too. Getting San Fran and LA to sink into the ocean would be perfect.

>>32252997
read
>>32270454

My money goes to CA after all this added up still being a socialist welfare queen shit.

Oh, and you think state taxes are bad? Baaaahahahahahaa just watch them go up after CA leaves and realizes it has a monopoly on those wallets.

>>32252997
>useless rednecks.png
>meanwhile in New Mexico
>meanwhile in Texas
>meanwhile in Michigan
filename literally only holds true for the deep south, and even then not really (LA and GA are pretty close to par)

>>32267719
>Texas splits into 5 states
>republicans suddenly get 8 bonus senators

>>32252417

They've been largest for a while now. Probably has something to do with the fact that they're the most populous state as well.

>>32270177
DON'T REGISTER

The Canadians tried a national registry. Almost nobody registered, so they did away with it.

DON'T FALL FOR THE OBVIOUS TRAP

>>32270230
Bullshit. The only thing registration has ever led to is confiscation.

Don't register your guns. Ever.

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>>32260168
>liberal rag on the defense budget
>loves to tout how california is a strong independant state who don't need no man
>completely forgets that over 200 billion dollars of the state economy comes from defense spending like Raytheon
>40 billion in San fransico alone

>>32270635
>Almost nobody registered, so they did away with it.
I'm pretty sure the vast majority registered, but they abandoned it after spending millions and it not actually helping solving a single case.

How are lowers treated in California? Do I have to get it registered? What if I want to build a featureless rifle?

>>32271215
No need to register if you're going featureless.
Nothing about featureless changed.
Also don't register.

>>32271230
Cool thanks

>>32267662
AZfag here. Y'all ain't American. Deal with it and keep sucking that delicious commie cock.

>>32252330
>>32262032
Most Cuckifornia FFLs aren't doing transfers in December. If you find one, you need to start the paperwork before December 20th. You need to finish the waiting period and receive the firearm BEFORE January 1.

>>32255538
NorCalfag here, can't fucking tell you how much I want Jefferson to actually come to be. The fact that my vote gets ignored in place of some LA faggot who leaves his sprinkler on and wastes all our fucking water is disgusting

>>32254025
It wasn't.

>>32252330
>>32261587
>>32252566
>>32252747
You know, even without California's 55 electoral votes Obama still would have won in 2008 and 2012
365 173 goes to 310 173 in '08 and
332 206 goes to 277 206 in '12

>>32272844
The American electoral system really marginalises large states in general, so their effect on the system is less than you'd think.

>>32272890
Correct, it is not held to the proportional representation mandated under the Constitution, where it would be 700k persons per rep in the House.

So you know, for all that talk of supporting it, people sure don't want to.

>>32254960
>>32267719
the states voluntarily entered the union it was understood they can leave at any time

>>32252330
yeah should leave, they have the 8th largest economy on earth

>>32273354
And then we had a war on this to settle it. No they cannot leave.

>>32252330
>Oregon wants California to stay
Good joke.

>>32272738
it was a presidential non-partisan republic you fucking mouth breather. look it up and shut the fuck up.

>>32273390
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

the states retain this power for themselves to be able to leave the union because it is a power not delegated or prohibited

>>32273628
>>32273390
the states originated from the ideas of self determination and sovereignty and freedom, this is something that didn't have to be articulated at the time because it was common knowledge. something that everyone considered to be self evident

>>32273628
I understand what you're getting at but though not explicitly enumerated in the Constitution I'd call losing a civil war to be evidence that secession is "prohibited" at least with regards to federal supremacy.

>>32273717
Forgot to mention the opinion rendered in Texas v. White.

>>32273717
the fact that lincoln decided to start killing people doesn't take away the tenth amendment of the constitution

>>32273765
their opinion was wrong

>>32273830
OK, Hillary.

>>32273628
And then you have war and find it is prohibited.
>>32273701
And it was considered self evident not to attack a government fort, nor to base an economy on slave labor to the point your great reinvention is the cotton gin.

>>32276135
yes slavery was unconstitutional even back then even if they didn't recognize that. the right to withdraw from the union is not prohibited, that war was unjust.

>>32276156
If they wished to withdraw, they could have done so peacefully, instead of starting a shooting war. Much less kidnapping and press ganging Northerners in the same manner as the 1812 was fought.

You do realize you're defending kikes again?
The megaplantations, the ones with the most slaves and greatest political pull, were run by Jews, and the slave markets even kept Saturday for them not Sunday? That they were the 2% of the population telling everyone else to go die for them?

>>32276165
Even before they were independent states or at least acknowledged by the world that they were, they were already exercising powers we associate with sovereignty, massachetts, conneticut and south Carolina outfitted ships against the british. it was the troops of conneticut that took Ticonderoga. new hampshire was the executive authorized to issue letters of marque and reprisal. 1776 it was declared that the crime of treason would be thought of being perpetrated not against the states united into an indivisible blob but against the state’s individually. Article 2 of the articles of confederation says that the states “retain their sovereignty, freedom, and independence” and of course you can’t retain something if you don’t have it in the first place. The ratification of the constitution was carried out not by a single national vote of mythical American people it was carried out one state at a time because that’s what the united states was, a collection of society’s that’s’ why the constitution refers to the united states consistently in the plural.

>>32252997
The funny part is its the Democrats in almost every state that are receiving almost all the welfare. The whole "red states are welfare states" meme is another leftist lie. Dan Bongino did a podcast on it sometime this week actually.

>>32252330
>redpanels
go back to /pol/ loser

>>32276422
Triggered

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>>32276422
/K/ is not a safe place. Go back to your tendies and let the men talk.

>>32276426
>>32276540
And /k/ is not a safe space for stormfags. That's what /pol/ is for and you dickheads should stay there.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1p7F8EhY91g&list=PLALopHfWkFlFYKeCQ6Pc8q-O9jn5fn1wI

>>32276759
>we must be tolerant
>unlike those /pol/tards that we can't allow to post in our pure boards
>I mean it's not like they can share our interests

>>32276759
>Anyone I don't like is a Nazi!

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>>32252330
CUNTS

>>32269999
If you want to register do it. If you bought after 2014 you're already in a registry. Edgy retards on this board are going to say to not comply but they've never had to deal with California where police and the DA will absolutely try to put you in prison for no reason other than being a gun owner. There were multiple cases where gun owners were arrested and held for trial until California DOJ issued a statement that the bullet button was legal.

>>32270651
Big talk from someone anonymous and nothing to lose. Shut the fuck up because you don't know what you're talking about.

>>32270349
I would love to see them try and confiscate. Seriously. I want to see them do it. Trump will put more pro gun justices into the Supreme Court and if they push this they're going to find themselves decades behind where they started.

Also compliance at that point is truly fucking retarded.

>>32272249
You're retarded. Most FFLs are but they're booked solid all the way to the end of the year. If you didn't plan ahead you're going to be scrambling to find one.

>>32254154
>CMV 4140 parkerized

No.

>>32276540
Nobody gives a shit about your fucking identity politics. I'm so fucking tired of people on this board that clearly give zero shits about guns and just want to talk about how black people are the reason that they're virgins. This is a board about weapons. If you can't stay on topic don't get mad when people call you out on your shit.

>>32252330
Bear Creek Arsenal looks like they cut costs pretty hard to hit the prices that they have. It looks like Live Free Armory has better spec and lower prices.

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>>32255658
As soon as Yellowstone blows, brother. T.E.F will march out and take back America.

>>32277667
I remember there were some threads about this scenario awhile back on /k/. Then I saw that for some reason Washington went to the goddamn Alaskans. Who's fucking dumb idea was that?

>>32277717
Fags being all 'my state is better than your state'.

>>32276416
Can you link me to this?

>>32277279
>I would love to see them try and confiscate.
Wait until Newsom becomes governor. That asshole is crazy enough to try forcible confiscation and the electorate here is crazy enough to cheer him on.

OP you have 20 days to buy an AR so better make that choice now.

>>32273628
>the states retain this power for themselves to be able to leave the union because it is a power not delegated or prohibited
Not according to the Supreme Court

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>>32281186
well then the supreme court isn't upholding the constitution and their opinion is invalid. besides, once a state decides to withdraw, its no longer under their jurisdiction.

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>>32253831
This. Going featureless with a kydex wrap isn't the end of the world. Plus you will be able to use a normal magazine release.

Probably the biggest detriment is no forward grip.

the constitution limits the federal government, it doesn't have to include a clause for withdrawal from the union or anything because thats not what the constitution is for. it is intended to only restrict the federal government

>>32282366
the states themselves retain all other powers

>>32252330
I don't trust classic at all anymore. They shill way too hard for saturday night special brands that some people actually waste their money on them. OP, stay the fuck away from bear creak arsenal, they have a history of making trash and then when everyone wises up to their shit they rename themselves and keep making the same shit.

>>32253104
>Having a lawn
Motherfuckers like that are why our state has such shit control over our water management.
Lawns are a waste and if you have one you're only helping to shit up the earth.