HK or Glock

It's probably not. Both H&K & Glock have established themselves as really reliable firearm brands.

>A Glock is gonna run good, and will cost less than a USP
>A USP will run just as good as a Glock, but you get the snobby privilege of saying you own an H&K.

No matter which you buy, people are going to give you shit here. My suggestion would be to find a way to shoot each gun and see which one ergonomically feels better. If you dont have a means of shooting either one, go to a gun shop and finger fuck each one.

If you're deadset on buying a USP check pawnshops and armslist. Don't buy used from a pawnshop unless you know a lot about pistols. Disassemble the pistol on the counter and look for rust and pitting. Pawnshop owners will lie to you. It's up to you to know what to look for.

>>32250940
Plastic that run good
metal that run good

Austrians or Germans

literally cant go wrong either way

>>32251020
So why do people even buy h&k's then if other guns run just as well?
For masturbational purposes?

>>32251046
But my hands tell me it's wrong, idk maybe I have to approach the Glock like I did the Kalashnikov.
I learned to love it, because of function.

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>>32251020
This

>>32251056
Personal preference

Walther

>>32251056

because they are not poor, i had airsoft versions of usp and glock 17 when i was in middle school and i always liked the usp grip better, so I ended up getting a p2000

>>32251020
I've been looking at the p2000sk because it uses the usp design but has a "precocked" double action that is smoothed out, then comes down to a nice SA.

>>32251056
A lot of people hate Glock ergo's and trigger. One pistol might feel better in hand than the other.

A lot of things in the firearm community revolve around masturbation. Firearms cost a lot of money, people want to believe they've spent their hardearned money on a good product, so people come to /k/ to shit on other people's guns to feel better about the guns they own. Most brand hating is all about validation really. Unless you're talking about Taurus.

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>>32250940
First, that's a P2000 in your photo. Also a good gun, and generally more affordable than the USP. Second, any HK is going to always be better than any Glock. End of story.

I would say that both the Glock and the USP are 100% reliable pistols that are suitable for a wide range of conditions and it's mostly about preference...but the HK is just so much better. The one real flaw of Glocks is that they are really susceptible to limp-wristing, although USPs can be limp-wristed as well. The spent casings will eject uniformly and positively in the HK, but will urinate out of the Glock in all directions. The trigger pull will be good to great on the HK, but the Glock trigger will feel like a staple gun. The HK will come with metal sights and metal reinforcements in the frame (not just metal tabs for the slide to ride on), whereas the Glock will come with as many cost-cutting plastic and MIM parts as possible. Plus, HKs will either have a polymer recoil buffer or, in the case of the full size USP, a recoil-reducing buffer spring, making them very shootable guns in general. Both are very common guns with common holsters and magazines, although Glock magazines are a little bit cheaper and more common.

Do not shy away from .40 caliber HKs. This is the one company that makes .40 cal pistols right. They recoil harder than 9mm, but you really don't get the snappy/wackiness that so many other .40 cal pistols are known for. Because of the stigma of the round, many .40 cal HKs are really affordable, but prices are coming down on 9mm HKs as well.

>>32251111
You can get the LEM trigger (what you're referring to) on any of the USP, P2000, HK45 or P30 variants.

Watch MAC`s torture test videos and that should answer your question

>>32250940
Glockenspiel is more comfy to carry, just as reliable and depending on hk variant might have a better trigger. Hk USP ver1 trigger is good though. I like usp compact a lot and own and love a p2000 but I can't give you any numeric in support of it over glock. Glock is cheap, cheap mags, more comfy to carry, you won't care of it gets confiscated after shooting Jamal and it works just fine.

>>32251110
Idk I'm poor but patient.
I can save up to afford something idk why people get so fidgety when hey have 400-600& in their hands and grab the nearest thing.
Your going to look at that thing every goddamn day for maybe six months, just fucking wait.
That's where I'm at. I'm going to have roughly 900 and I've moved past getting a budget carry to afford more shit for my Arsenal SLR. I didn't cheap out on my primary so I don't think I should for my ccw. I already have a beater full size for the range.... Fuck me /k/. I just don't want a Glock. I want something accurate. (Was looking at the Cz75 D Compact before this)

>>32250940
Depends...


Hold both and see what fits better is REALLY what it comes down too.
H&k Is also better then glock. period - and comes with the name
>Oh yeah this is my Hk USP .45
>Oh yeah this my glock (Whatver the fuck number)

What sounds better ?
Bitches dig that.

>Also take into account funds for funs

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>>32250940
>There's got to be better pistols than Glock.

Sadly no.

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depends, do you like playing ct or t?

>>32251180
Has he done the USP, or do you think that all HKs are configured like the VP9 internally?

>>32250940
Glock and H&K are both fantastic polymer handguns. Both are accurate and extremely reliable, it really comes down to your personal aesthetic to be quite honest. The only gripe I have ever had with the USP is the retard-tier prices for magazines, and the only gripe I've ever had with Glocks is how they aren't the least bit aesthetically pleasing when they are stock, but that can be solved if you have the extra cash to dump into it. Both are going to do exactly what you ask of them every time you pull the trigger, and both will require additional spending to iron out those small short comings. It really just comes down to what you want to spend your money on Anon.

>>32251056
The Glock don't feel that great to shoot and there is just something sexy about an hk.
It's like comparing a Ferrari to a corvette. I could argue that the Corvette is the obvious choice but some people just want the Ferrari.

>>32251180
Don't listen to this guy

>>32251237
>The only gripe I have ever had with the USP is the retard-tier prices for magazines
There is a bit of fluctuation, particularly with the .45 caliber magazines, but I've found them pretty consistently in the $25-35 range, which is standard for pistol magazines.

>>32251242
>It's like comparing a Lexus to a Honda Civic.
Fixed. They are entry level bare bones pistols that people buy to supe up.

>>32251221
Wanna post the story behind that picture? Because it's from some dude buying some sketchy hand loads that were loaded way too hot. Hotter than .45 Super, apparently.

>>32251275
I should have clarified, I was speaking mainly about the extended magazines to try and bridge the gap between the capacity difference. Standard mags do fluctuate with the market though.

Op here.
Let me just say this.
If Glocks and hks costed the same, which would you buy?
G26 vs P2000sk.
A few extra hundred here and there is an investment to me. I'll just suck myself into another work week and come out with some extra cash.

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>>32250940
this should help you decide

>>32251335
Yes, the jet funnel magazines are way too expensive.

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>>32251339

>>32251319
I don't want to supe up anything. It's not my primary. It should be what I want when I first buy it. Period. I don't understand people... If you want a good trigger, ergos, sights.. Etc. Find a gun that has it first and be done with it.

>>32251338
HK, every single time. I have owned Glocks, and the only Glocks worth owning are the 10mm ones, but that's only because they have zero competition.

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>>32251339
>>32251349
Seems like SEK also has a penchant for Glocks

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>>32251320
>Wanna post the story behind that picture? Because it's from some dude buying some sketchy hand loads that were loaded way too hot. Hotter than .45 Super, apparently.

so the same shit that happens to glocks which gave birth to the glocknade meme?

>>32251349

>>32251339
Glocks cut deals with people to get contracts. That's easy to understand why they're so common.
>not excited

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>>32251369

>>32251360
A Glock of a given size and caliber will generally hold slightly more ammo in the magazine and be slightly lighter weight than an HK (or almost any other brand) of the same size and caliber. That's why people like them. They check all the boxes and look great on paper. However, I still think the HK is the better gun.

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>>32251382
>Glocks cut deals with people to get contracts. That's easy to understand why they're so common.

That's just a lame ass excuse of a fetishist. Germany doesn't work like that mate just because some bum fuck sheriff's departments in the US do.

>>32251221
>glockfag starting a "post broken handguns out of context" fight

spoiler alert, glocks lose that battle

>>32251382

Glock also hooks people up with literal prostitutes. You're the mayor of Chicago? Your cops are equipped with S&W? Well maybe you'll push for a Glock contract after a weekend with a few $10,000 weekend hookers, on the company dime.

Glock pimps out some of their shooting team girls as well to high high profile VIPs and leaders of countries, that helps them get international contracts. See also: Tori Nanonka

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>>32251403

>>32251365
I was going to say g29 instead of g26 but I didn't wanted to be comparable. The g29 is the only Glock that makes sense to me because I can get
those sweet ass Wolf barrels and do conversions.
>my Kalashnikov gets heavy when romping around in Florida

>>32251416

(That said I own 3 glocks and 2 HK pistols.. a nice gun is a nice gun)

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>>32251416

I'm saving for a USP 45 Compact. Buy once, buy right.

>>32251403
>makes a point about my fetishes
>doesn't make about about how I'm not right
Ok kiddo

>>32250940
HK P30/USP RECOMMENDED SPRING MAINTENANCE: 25,000 ROUNDS

GLOCK RECOMMENDED SPRING MAINTENANCE: 4,000 ROUNDS

After owning a G17 and a G19 and switching to a USP 9 and a P30SK, I'm never looking back.

Buy a glock and you'll probably, whether you think you will or not, start swapping out parts.

buy an HK and you can leave it alone because it came with excellent parts from the factory.

most of these glock fanboys are just unwilling to make the initial investment in quality.

>>32251382


>This

Glocks is everywhere because its fucking made out of plastic and mass produced (good quality control tho) so its easy to pack and sell..

Hk manually tests/fires every single firearm that leaves their factory before you get your hands on it, every single HK has been hand inspected before shipping...

>>32251451
Why not a USP40 Compact?
>50% more magazine capacity
>slightly smaller gun
>potent caliber of similar ballistics to certain loadings of .45 ACP

I've looked at the USP45 Compact and it just didn't make sense to me.

>>32251366
>>32251420


those are H&K tho

>>32251471
Glock does cut costs, but not how you imagine they do.

>>32251504
It's the 40 short and weak that doesn't make sense.

>power of 9mm
>capacity of a 45

I already own a couple 9mm handguns and don't need a babby step up. The USP was built for 45 and can handle it just fine

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>>32251507
get some working eyes mate.

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Op here. I'm buying a p2000sk.
My SLR can eat salads and stay skinny. She doesn't need to get fed. I've told her she's getting front heavy but she doesn't believe me.
Thanks /k/, your more helpful than those assholes in /AKG/. I've tried tripfagging for a couple months after ten years of lurking and postin but it's really not fucking worth it. If your not posting pictures of bakelites and the same damn rifle photo over and over your not cool enough to respond to.
>a decade of 4chin and I still consider myself a newfag. Because one is always a newfag.

>>32251543

do you not see the exposed hammer?

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>>32251471
>Glocks has good quality control
>every single HK has been hand inspected before shipping...

the cognitive dissonance is at librul TyT gun grabber levels here.

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>>32251556
so much shit gets posted on this board I don't even know if you could be trolling.

>>32251555
forgot to mention resale value is far higher for HKs of any kind (except the VP9)

>>32251533
Are you retarded?

>power of 9mm
You're slinging a heavier projectile with approximately 50% more momentum, aka barrier penetrating ability. Both are about equally effective against bare flesh (as is .45 ACP), but to say that they have equal power and equal capabilities is just ignorant.

>capacity of a 45
USP40 Compact capacity: 12 rounds
USP45 Compact capacity: 8 rounds
Difference: 50% more capacity.
Oh, and the USP9 Compact only holds 13 rounds, which is a whopping 8.3% additional capacity.

Yet you want the .45, which has the same capacity as a 1911 and has inferior ballistics to .40 S&W in most standard pressure loadings.

>I already own a couple 9mm handguns and don't need a babby step up.
The babby step is the .45.

>>32251517
>>32251564

jee-lock fanboys detected.
We get it. Bricks get you off

>>32251555
CDNN has them for $100 less than that.
https://www.cdnnsports.com/p2000sk-9mm-sub-compact-v3.html

>>32250940
>>Tldr; Why is the USP worth it?

Yes. I have had a USP 45 for 8 years and its still my favorite handgun. I've also had many different Glocks in 9mm to 10mm. They are just adequate, but the USP is always awesome. Especially with the match trigger or the tactical versions. I'm saving for an MK23 right now and maybe a 9mm USP later.

>>32251611
No. I recently sold my last Glock and don't plan on buying more. That doesn't mean I can't call out your bullshit when you are this obviously uninformed.

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a e s t h e t i c s

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>>32251611
>jee-lock fanboys detected.

And proud!

>>32251046
HK current production handguns are polymer framed you fucking moron

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>>32251639

>USP compact
>bullets in wrong way
>long key chain
>drives a subaru
>samsung phone
>fox karambit, not emerson

C A N C E R

>>32251606
If you want a .40 so bad, get one m'dude I'm not going to stop you.

Me, I'm getting a USP not chambered in a meme round

>>32251639
>almost 2017AD
>dat "rail"
>safety, not a decocker

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>>32251721

what's wrong with the bullets? get your eyes checked

what's wrong with his phone?

what's wrong with a subaru?

what's wrong with literally any of that shit except for you trying to make yourself feel better at the expense of someone else, except you can't even find someone to legitimately shit on so you're reduced to making things up

ps here's my edc

>>32251748
>Buy once, buy right
You are about to buy wrong.

>get one
I have a USP Compact in 9mm and .40 currently. I had one in .45 in the past, but it was literally pointless, so I sold it.

>meme round
In other words, .45.

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>>32251721
Dank memes

>>32251757
>Dat rail
It's my carry so I don't intend on attaching anything.. why would I want a jagged rail on it?

>Safety not a decocker
Plain wrong and stupid, but at least you tried champ

>>32251764
The bullets thing is a meme. Otherwise he's just mad for some reason.

>>32251757
The safety lever doubles as a decocker.

>>32250940
Im gonna blow your mind OP. Aside from actual weapon quality and your financial situation, its pretty much all shooters preference.

I shoot mainly SIG and CZ. My best friend shoots mostly Glocks and my other good friend shoots nothing but Springfield and CZ as well. My friends and I can sit sround and joke all we want about each others choices (buy a glock to hope it explodes and ends your existence, buy Springfield because you wanna fuck grandpas etc.) but at the end of the day it literally all came down to how we prefer our weapons to feel and handle.

>>32251369
>implying I have a problem with glocks
A glock 40 MOS is actually the next handgun I'm buying

HK are a totally different design. the usp is a hammer fired pistol with double action trigger and decock and safety. not comparable to a glock at all except in block shape

>>32251782
>It's my carry so I don't intend on attaching anything..

plenty ppl carry G19s with surefires on there these days. I have a Streamlight TLR-6 on my G26.

>why would I want a jagged rail on it?

Glock rails are jaggend now?

>Plain wrong and stupid, but at least you tried champ

ok

>>32251639
>magpul wallet
>IWB magazine carrier
>injection molded holster
>DA/SA thumb safety hammer down safety on


Ahahahahahahahah oh wow

>>32251366
why does he need a pistol on his thigh and waist

>>32251830
I think carrying a light is too bulky.

How is the HK rail any worse than a Glock's? I thought you meant 1913.

For real though, you're a tard about the decocker.

>>32251856
>Comfy wallet
>Comfy holsters
>Safety engaged while I was messing with a loaded weapon
wow so stoopid im not even an operatur

I carry decocked safety off.

>>32251856
>>IWB magazine carrier
>>injection molded holster


He doesn't really carry that shit. don't believe everything you read on k

>>32251533
>>32251533
>The USP was built for 45 and can handle it just fine
no, the USP was built for 40S&W

>>32251382
>cut deals with people to get contracts
If you think H&K has never done this, you are a moron
If you think Beretta has never done this, you are a moron
If you think Sig has never done this, you are a moron

>>32251878
I do carry that shit, though.

>>32251876
>has an option to carry cocked and locked
>doesn't choose it

Look, still a retard!

>>32250940
HKs don't work when wet. I hope you live in a desert...well, they don't work in sand either. Aw, fuck. Do you live in a movie? HKs work great in movies. That's what they're designed for.

>>32251898
>Two different things that just depend entirely on preference
>Dur ur dum my way is betur!!
Fuck off homie

>>32251887
>the USP was built for 40S&W
This is true but the best USP is the USP45
http://www.hkpro.com/forum/hk-handgun-talk/160710-chat-hk-armorer-must-read.html

>>32251462
Is the P30 actually on par with the USP? I figured it was another budget pistol like the VP9.

I once saw a frontline documentary about poverty in America and a lot of guys had glocks

>>32251914
literally what

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>>32251965
>glocks
you mean problem solvers, right?

>>32251918
faggot

>>32252028
stop youll hurt my fee fees :(

>>32251887
It was developed in tandem with the Mark 23, which was built for the .45 ACP.

>>32251947
The design internally is almost the same, with just a few dimensional changes to make the parts not compatible. On the outside, you get a lot of ergonomic and functional upgrades.

>>32251914
Go home, Canada. You're drunk.

>>32251919
>>32251919
do you have reading comprehension? the link you posted clearly says the 9mm HKs only come in because of user error, when limpwristing. the armorer clearly says 45 and 40 are more forgiving to limpwristing so they dont see them in for "repairs".

pretty awesome to see the USP45 can take 300k rounds with just recoil springs. itd be interesting to hear what the round counts of federal's USP40 are. i know 45ACP is a lower pressure round so maybe it puts less stress on the gun, but i doubt the 40sw is that far behind. the gun was built with the pressures of 40 in mind. it was specifically created for the 40

glocks cant even go 5 thousand rounds before needing maintenance, trigger return spring usually pops around then, etc.

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I'd buy a USP if it came in a good caliber.

Maybe someday HK won't be gay.

>>32252156
this. until they start making 20x102mm USPs ill take my business elsewhere

>>32252156
oh look he fell for the meme

>>32252156
10meme is the only reason I own a handgun.

>>32252156
why not a Sig

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>>32251606
just going to leave this here

>>32251203
It sounds like you don't want a glock because you don't think they look cool. Honestly they're alot better in person. Hk guns have this retarded WANING: THIS GUN SHOOTS BOOLIT'S AND YOU MUST READ THE INSTRUCTION MANUAL YOU STUPID PLEB under the trigger guard. The trigger guard is also paper thin at the bottom, which though it may allow you to get a better grip purchase, does not inspire confidence in its durability. Finally, make sure you like the mag release. I had my heart set on a p2000 as my first gun, until I actually held and manipulated one in the store. Bought a g19 gen 4 and couldn't be happier.

>>32251338
Still glock honestly.

>>32251462
>buy an HK and you can leave it alone because it came with excellent parts from the factory.

Except for the sights and trigger of course. I would also say the shitty mag release, but you're stuck with the paddles like it or not.

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>>32250940
For me, it is the Glock. The best striker fired pistol.

>>32251056
The HKs handle recoil better because of their buffer system.

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>>32253979

>>32253372
should have left it in the trash

squishy squishy

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>>32251582
>>32251366

>>32251507 is right dumbass.

>>32250940
I don't know, I have a P2000 that was on sale for $499 on black Friday but paid selling my P239 paid for that.

I also have a Glock 19. I honestly love both and it'd be hard to pick a favorite between the Glock and the HK. Both are fucking fantastic and I'm never buying another Sig again... Unless maybe I come across a good deal on a used German P220.

>>32251136

>chink dolls
>daring to trigger The Cult of Block

wew lad

>>32253372
Nobody's talking about the FNX. Anon specifically said that he wants a USP Compact.

>>32251136
>This is the one company that makes .40 cal pistols right.
Too bad the cartridge itself is still garbage.

Perfect example of why /k/ needs to have both country flags and a requirement to prove that you own guns before being able to post here: >>32255935

>>32251360
>I never want to upgrade and tune my gun to my exact needs/wants
Be honest; you just have no idea how to handle a firearm beyond field-stripping and the mere though of doing anything beyond stripping the slide from the frame and removing the guide spring assembly intimidates the shit out of you.

>>32251582
What sniper is that?

>>32251382
>Glocks cut deals with people to get contracts
Do you genuinely think H&K also hasn't does exactly that?

>>32255948
Good argument.

I had a g3 glock19 I never had any issues with I just disliked the grip angle trigger and sights, rather than spending money to upgrade it I just bought a p30 great gun looking at getting a vp9 next

>>32251382

Every manufacturer tries to do this to win contracts. Do you want to know why Glocks keep winning? Because after 30 years the aftermarket is huge, spare parts is nearly everywhere and cheap, and the gun is so simple you can be your own armorer for the gun. Not to mention it's a fine duty weapon, reliable, and durable. It's a Glock world, get used to it.

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>>32251360
>It should be what I want when I first buy it. Period
>If you want a good trigger, ergos, sights.. Etc. Find a gun that has it first and be done with it.
You sound like the kind of guy who gets a Colt LE9620 and leaves it bone-stock because it's "just perfect as it is".

looking for a first handgun to carry and use for home defense, considering either a usp9 compact or usp45 compact. What do /k/?

HK
Pros:better than glock in the trigger and controls
cons:more expensive,mags are expensive and the proprietary rail
glock has a larger after market and the 33rnd mags if ur not in a cuck state

>>32251764

way to post your serial number, moron

SHOULD HAVE SPENT MORE TIME LURKING AND LEARNING MAYBE YOU'D KNOW WHAT OPSEC IS

>>32251564
Why didn't he do it?

Bench vice accuracy of Glock and HK are both about 4" at 50 yards iirc.
Reliability of both Glock and HK are basically perfect.
Triggers on both Glock and HK are meh...

Carrying comfort is slightly better on Glocks. (Yes, I've carried several of each.)
Aftermarket support and cheap magazine supply is better for the Glock.
Now that they are, as of Gen4, putting the dual springs in the larger Glocks, they feel about as nice to shoot as the HK.
Glocks cost less than the HK.

You should get the Glock. I can't give you any single reason to spend more for an HK. I choose HK, not sure why. I just like HK.

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>>32251555
>>32253372
so what you are actually looking for is an FNX