FFL fuckery

>>32248330
>buy rifle online
>have it shipped to FFL
>$20 in a pretty expensive area
>prettyalright.jpg
>get email the day it arrives asking when I'm available to pick the rifle
>can do it after work, that works fine for him
>get in to his house, sit down at table and start filling out 4473 while he scans my license and GWL
>starts showing off his newest buys and anything else from his collection I ask about
>shoot the shit about guns, politics, and life in general for about 30 minutes
>hand him $20, shake hands
>go home and molest rifle

I miss that guy

>>32248330
>>"sorry anon, this week isn't very good. Maybe come pick it up wednesday?"
>>wednesday comes (today)
>>calls me and says my background check didn't go through


things that didn't happen
You have to go in to get the background check done

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>>32248876
Hasn't been the case for me, I'm in IL. You can do it in person or send them a picture of your FOID and they can do it with that.
Right now, I wish I did it in person to find out what the fuck is going on. I called him and left a message and he still hasn't gotten back to me.

>>32248936
Hope whatever it is wasn't too expensive, because he's keeping it for himself.

>>32248330
>try to buy gun at Cabela's
>BACKGROUND CHECK HOLD
>every fucking time, at least three times
>fuck you, Cabela's

>buy gun literally anywhere else
>zero problems, walk out of the store within 20 minutes

>>32248963
It was a SKS I bought off of a fellow anon. I get that Tulas are good, but come on.

>>32248330
>ask FFL if he'll do a transfer
>he says yes, just email the order #
>send him the order #
>in two weeks the company calls me and says they never heard from him
>email FFL again, doesn't respond back
>call and leave him a message
>say fuck it and have it shipped to someone else
>he never responds
This fucking guy shitposts on a gun forum all day long too.

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>>32248330
>$30 fee
Try $50 state fee + $125 from dealer and seller + 10% of cost of gun for state (usually $80-200)
And then I gotta wait ten days.

>>32249065
Are you in hell?

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>>32249073
Close enough.

>>32248330
Precrime

What were you thinking about anon?

>>32249192
molesting the rifle nonstop for 6 hours and slowly stripping it down to its parts, then sensually putting it back together again. And then repeat the process.

Is that illegal?

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>>32249065

>>32248330
I have done I think 3 transfers in my life, and they all have gone pretty much like that. You get the email saying it was delivered, call the gunshop and they tell you they have to check, call back, etc… Just give me my fucking gun, fuckhead!

I will never do a transfer again.

>go on a milsurp buying spree one month
>Usually calls when it arrives but i tracked it anyway
>$20 transfer
>Nother 20 a few days later
>Next week third one arrives
>Jesus anon, this ones on us.
>Guy give me all his 7.7 jap afterward since he sold his rifle some time ago

Man its good living in a progun state and outside the faggot cities

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I'm waiting for a gun myself, and its a few weeks beyond the normal waiting period.

>>32249249
>Just give me my fucking gun, fuckhead!
Exactly. What is so hard about this? Why do some FFLs transfer your shit without a hitch, while others drag and drag.

>>32249215
Nope. SKS is an OK rifle. I used to have one, but now have an AR and AK. SKS was great, but I had to move on to better things. I really don't understand the hype over the SKS really.

>>32249065
>+ 10% of cost of gun for state (usually $80-200)

How is that or the state fee legal? That's akin to a poll tax. Has no one tried to sue the state for that?

>>32248330
>order gun online
>give them FFL info
>Hernandez pawn calls to tells me rifle came in
>Fill out form
>Get the all clear 5 minutes later
>hand guy $15
>walk out

I love my life.

>>32250174
>Going to court in a communist state to complain about your rights being raped.

>Finding a lawyer residing in that shitty state to represent you.

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This is why at the end of the day I don't mind paying $20 for rifle and $30 for pistol transfers at a local kitchen table FFL. He probably isn't the cheapest but he runs a business out of his really fucking nice house and is extremely reliable.

If you want to be an FFL and have the nerve to charge way over the standard fees then making fucking time for it and don't waste everyone else's. Nothing makes me rage more than mouth breathers in the gun industry. Sadly there are a lot of them.

>>32249111
Calling bullshit on your lying ass.

>The total state fee is $25. The DROS fee is $19.00 which covers the costs of the background checks and transfer registry. There is also a $1.00 Firearms Safety Act Fee and a $5.00 Safety and Enforcement Fee. In the event of a private party transfer (PPT), the firearms dealer may charge an additional fee of up to $10 per firearm.

>If the transaction is not a PPT the dealer may impose other charges as long as this amount is not misrepresented as a state fee. When settling on the purchase price of a firearm, you should ask the dealer to disclose all applicable fees.

>(Pen. Code, §§ 23690, 28055, 28225, 28230, 28300.)

>>32250174
It's fictional. He's full of shit. California state fees total $35.

>>32250255
Never been to California, have you? We got lawyers out the ass, and you can always find one who'll take your money.

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>be a fucking leaf
>pass class only a literal retard could fail (maybe not even)
>send paperwork
>get license
>every purchase flash license, pay, take gun and leave

>>32248330
Contact the NCIS and ask them why your background check didn't go through. If they say they never received one, then the FFL is outright lying to you and either playing with that gun or he's swapping parts out of your gun for parts on his gun.

Seriously. Call the FBI NCIS tomorrow and ask them what is up and why it was denied, and go from there. If they say they never received a background check, then fucking report that the FFL you used outright lied to you about your firearm and is holding it.

Who knows man, he could be trying to kill someone with it then quickly give it to you, fucking you over. Call the gubment and start the process of checking.

>>32248990
>all this bullshit for an SKS
Kek

>be me
>get LR-300 off of gunbroker, it's a variant I've been looking 5ever for (fixed fsb, para stock, nylatron handguard)
>send him an email during business hours asking if he'd be able to take it for shipment
>get an email response saying he could within 40 minutes, and he faxes over his FFL info
>seller says its shipped later that day
>gives me a tracking number
>watch it
>it gets there on a Monday morning at 10a.m.
>don't hear from them the next day
>email them on Tuesday
>nothing
>email them on Thursday
>nothing
>call them on Saturday
>"Oh yeah, we've got it. we've just been very busy. You'll definitely be able to pick it up next week."
>Email on Monday
>nothing
>keep calling and emailing them until it's Friday
>"Oh yeah, we've been having issues with ATF paperwork; it's all on their end and not our end. You'll be able to get it Tuesday at the latest."
>Tuesday I get the run around again.
>Call again on Friday. They don't answer.
>Call again on Saturday. They don't answer.
>Call on Monday; they don't answer
>Call that afternoon from my office building; they answer.
>I say, "You should have my LR-300; The 'atf issue' should have been resolved by now. If I'm not able to pick it up in the next 24 hours, you'll be getting a certified letter. I'll also be visiting the ATF's local field office, if this hasn't been resolved."
>"Sir we're still working on it, and we should have it ready tomorrow. There's no need for any drastic measures."
>10 minutes after our phone call I get an email saying I can pick it up.

I also have other second hand stories of tragic FFL fuckery.

>be
>>32252294
>cousin's friend in another state died
>he really liked his friends tacticool AUG A3 setup
>it had a FLIR scope
>he buys everything for MSRP and covers shipping
>FLIR scope was mounted on the gun with BUIS
>it goes to an FFL dealer
>he gets to the dealer
>there's no scope on the gun
>"What scope? The pics must have just been taken that way for the auction. No scope was included."
>shitbag dealer later took pictures of the scope on a Colt AR15 and put them on facebook
>cousin confronted him and got the scope back and a refund for the transfer.

>>32248504

Do business with him in the future. Maybe take a six pack and shoot the shit for an hour.

It's okay to make friends, Anon.

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I have a tale that's more me fuckery with an FFL.

>like a week after Trump won
>won some money on a bet for the election and got a gud deal on a Beretta Neos that I wanted
>buy it online and call up local FFL to accept it
>live in cucked NJ so need to apply for permits for every handgun I want
>talked to detective and he said permits will be ready in a week after like 1.5 months of waiting
>Me:"Yeah I'll have the permit soon and pick the gun up next week."
>next week comes
>Detective: Yeah I need to finalize some things, it'll probably be another week
>he's the only one doing the permits in my city and is only there like 2 days a week for permits for about 2 hours each day and the city/PD refuses to assign anyone else
>tell FFL it'll be another week
>go in last week
>"Sorry sir, the detective that does the permits is out sick today."
>it was the one day I actually had time to go in
>Me: "Yeah sorry he was sick and I couldn't get the permits."
>FFL: "Alright, but come by soon, I don't have a ton of extra space to keep this thing here forever."
>go in yesterday
>"Sorry sir, the detective is on vacation this week. He'll be back on monday."

I wish I was joking. It feels like I'm living in a Sam Hyde comedy sketch.

>>32252090
its $25 state fee plus a maximum of $10 transfer fee which the state allows FFLs to charge, PER gun. so for 1 rifle its $35 for DROS, then whatever FFLs charge, which usually is about $80-100. because most gun stores are faggots who want to price out the internet. this is why you need to find kitchen table FFLs. my local cuckfornia FFL charges $50 total for internet transfers. but there are not a lot of those types around

>>32252112
then again, lots of fudd shops make up their own rules. i have been to stores where they think they can charge $60 for state fees, and they itemize a bunch of bullshit like $5 xerox fee for paperwork. you have to call DOJ and complain about it, and eventually when DOJ gets enough complaints they contact the FFL and tell them to quit their faggotry

>>32248936
>>32248936
>Hasn't been the case for me, I'm in IL.
Your FFL is retarded then. In IL, you're not even allowed to run a background check without a 4473.

>>32252386
holy shit, leave that fucking shithole and file a lawsuit alleging infringement of 2nd amendment on the way out.

some sheriff here in cuckfornia was pulling that runaround shit with processing CCW applications, after being sued he was forced to actually start processing them.

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>>32249065
>>32252090
He's not. I just paid $132 to pick up my VEPR from my LGS.

>>32252294
>Oh yeah, we've been having issues with ATF paperwork; it's all on their end and not our end. You'll be able to get it Tuesday at the latest.
Local gun shop did this to me as well, but only for a week.

>>32252371
Holy fucking shit.
I'd have killed that motherfucker

>>32252502
california DOJ forces FFLs to collect sales tax on gun transfers, even if the FFLs arent selling you the gun. talk about fucking BULLSHIT

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>>32252666
I hate this goddamn state so much

>>32248330
>Buy first rifle.
>Shipped to FFL.
>Go in to do paperwork, background check, etc.
>First gun purchase do of course get a delay.
>Given the death glare from the old fud behind the counter.
>He managed to bleed on my paperwork.
>Three days later, get cleared, same old dude behind the counter.
>He looks at the blood stain on the paperwork he brought to the counter and asks me if I did that.

>>32248330
Nope.

>find FFL in my backyard
>as in actually walk through my backyard to his house
>do transfers in his dining room
>emailed me a copy of his FFL so I just have to CC him with the order info when I sent it to the seller
>$20 fee not the cheapest but I think of it as a tip included for being a cool dude

>>32252236
t h i s

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>Pajeet
>going to school in the South
>arrange to have my lgs/ffl handle the receiving of my first AR
>track shipment online
>hour after it arriving Bubba from lgs calls while in class
>"Uhh....shit not even going to bother pronouncing your name...your rifle is here, pick up at your convenience. We close at 6pm."
>stop in
>do paper work shit
>check out AR
>Bubba compliments it and congrats
>tell him thanks and look forward to doing business in the future
>leave
>mfw everything went fine no bullshit pain in the ass story like OP
I now use them for the other few guns I've bought and buy ammo there. I enjoyed the voicemail out

>>32252922
Is... is that real, or Photoshop? I honestly cannot tell.

Not really the place for this question but is there a way I can do the background check without buying a gun? I haven't done anything to think I would be denied but these stories give me concern and I don't want my first purchase to be confiscated because uncle Sam didn't tell me I'm fucked

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>>32252987
I'm pretty sure it's real. These guys are part of a right leaning Hindu group that is Pro Trump because they hate Muslims. Link related.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBxmFotKtcI

>>32253022
To be denied you would either need to have gone to court for a big crime or have been arrested for some physical/threatening type of shit. Otherwise don't worry at all.

>>32252169
>Live in southern US
>Give $75 to probate court, get fingerprinted
>Three weeks later get carry license that does the same thing as well
Feels good, man

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>>32253024
Cool beans. No one with any sense trusts the Ummah.

>get gun off gunbroker
>ship it to the cheapest guy in my area
>shot up to his house
>is wearing a tanktop
>has a swastika tattoo
>try not to give him a strange room
>give him a strange room anyway
>fill out my paperwork and get my gun in silence.
>leave
>Report him to the FBI.
>he's now serving life in prison for a conspiracy charge.

just get them shipped to a store, man. it's like $5 more and they're open all day and you don't end up in nazi's home.

>>32253088
>>shot up to his house
>>strange room
>>give him a strange room
I want phoneposters out

I have stories from the other side of the counter instead :^)

>guy gets a walther limited edition ppk in
>write him invoice with all fees on there
>he comes in to pick it up
>gets upset about use tax because "I BOUGHT IT ONLINE THEY DONT CHARGE TAX!"
>have to explain that the law requires me to charge use tax on guns coming from another FFL
>asks me how i came up with the total for that
>NIGGER ARE YOU FUCKING SERIOUS
>show him the invoice they SENT WITH THE DAMN GUN
>gets pissy that his credit card fee and shipping is included in that
>have to then explain that the law requires tax be charged on everything including shipping/fees and while i cant do anything about it
>demands to talk with owner
>ha ok bud your funeral
>owner tells him same thing i just did
>says he doesnt wanna pay tax on the CC fee and shipping
>owner says he can send the gun back to the originating FFL then
>guy takes a minute to think and decides fine
>wants to pay credit card, have to charge him 4% extra because we are not payin this motherfuckers fee for using a credit card on his tax
>thank god he got a proceed
>never saw him again

SURPRISE! just because you bought it online doesnt mean you get to avoid TAXES

>>32253106

actually you are wrong and you guys are mis-charging customers.

>>32253088
what a little faggot you are

>>32253091
Oh do you now.

>>32253106
you are a fucking faggot piece of shit. the law also requires you to fucking keep your meddling shit out of interstate commerce. you are just a piece of shit going along with the status quo of injustice

>>32253171
he was a nazi, not a natsoc.

>>32252703

If it makes you feel better everyone else does too.

Here's my third samefag post:
>friend bought a Sako
>shipped to ffl
>ffl relocated to another town 30 miles away
>didn't mention it while the transfer was setup
>he got the run around for 2 weeks while they finished moving their store and adjusting paperwork

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>be kommiefornian
>wasnt aware of the hangun roster at the time because I thought this was America
>want a .44
>see a taurus w/ ported 8.375 in barrel
>order online since too broke for model 29
>week goes by and get call from store
>we have your gun but the roster said no
>areyoukiddingme.jpg
>find out what this fuckin "roster" is
>see how little guns there are and come to mine
>realize I don't live in a free country anymore
>can only get the 6" so I ask if they have that
>out of stock
>get used ruger Redhawk instead which was better
>didn't have to pay restock fee cause the 8.375 " wasn't supposed to be on the site
My passion for hating Kommiefornia only grows

>>32252169

I could do that if I got my enhanced permit but seeing as we have constitutional carry and the only states I'd ever travel to wouldn't respect it, I'm fine with waiting an extra 20 minutes for the occasional purchase.

>>32248330
compare to California. most non garage FFLs charge around $75. PLUS they then charge you California tax on your item!

>>32253194
calling the police on an FFL who completes the transfer normally and is a law abiding citizen just because of his tattoo

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>>32253228
Nice ifunny watermark! Quality meme!

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>>32252371
Should have pressed charges

theft, fraud, selling stolen property

>>32253228
>>32253228
with revolvers just use an FFL who converts them to single action for the transfer (literally just unscrew grips, maybe a side plate, take out spring for hammer)

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>finally turn 18 and have the funds to buy a rifle
>decide to buy an AK, cause .30 cal and slav memes
>buy it online from classicfirearms
>sometime later i get an email saying it's been delivered
>be me "Hey Bill! I'm here for my AK!". I tell him the model and who it shipped from
>sorry anon, we have one of those, but not for you
>what
>We can check though if something did come in
They came back with a beaten up box with my shipping information shittily taped on that the clerk had already signed for, it was full of christian religious pieces and bibles. Basically some cunt saw my rifle box, saw that the christian box and my rifle were headed to similar places, switched shipping info, and no one knew. Took another week or two before me, the FFL, and classic sorted shit and they sent me another one.

How do you guys find these FFLs working out of their homes?

>Go to bangstick distributor
>See good bangstick
>Ask price of bangstick
>is reasonable number of labor rations
>Must check the reararea of mine
>Success is done
>Take bangstick back to bedbox
>Do more than once

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>>32253106
"charge him for using a credit card too"
BITCH. Fuck you.
Pic related. its you.

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How hard is it to obtain an FFL? It doesn't seem to be too terribly expensive and it would be bretty sweet to get guns shipped directly to me without needing a 3rd party.

>>32248965
I have a similar problem at gander mountain
>buy gun at GM
>wait two hours for NICS to respond

>buy gun anywhere else
>NICS takes more time to fill out than it does to process

What is up with this?

>buy shotgun online, send to my usual ffl almost a month ago
>didn't call her to inform her beforehand which isn't the best thing to do but it's never been a problem
>Try to call her after ordering, no answer
>Repeat this multiple times per day, for days, never answers the phone
>Oh shit is this place out of business
>Give up and drive to the shop
>It's open and she's in there
>Tell her the situation and shes like oh sorry I was out of town doing blah blah but sure I can receive the gun no problem
>tracking the gun on FedEx, they attempt to deliver 3 times and no one was there to take it all 3 times and gets held for pickup
>She finally goes and picks it up or whatever
>Calls me when I'm at the airport to go out of town for thanksgiving to tell me she has it
>Come back and call and ask if I can come get it
>Tells me how she's busy and the next 800 days are no good for her
I'm never gonna get this fucking thing

>>32253299
wasn't the SSE "loophole" "closed" in the last year or two?

>>32254271
ATF is no longer approving "kitchen table" FFLs. You have to have a place of business that is not your address.

>>32254245
For most people, and I mean 90%+, no problems whatsoever

We blydo the credit card fee on transfers if it's like a super high end gun (think STI 2011 or some shit) and the 4% fee charged to us would cost us money or if the dude is being a douche

He is one of like, two people that I have had to explain the whole tax on transfers thing to

So for future reference, if you sell a gun online, send it yourself and not through an FFL, private sale = no tax, dealer to dealer anything = tax

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>>32253106
Faggot alarm.

>>32254441
False. RSR is just no longer dealing with kitchen table ones, ATF dgaf

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>>32253055
Yeeeesss honky tonk stronk. Its great because where i live, the police offer a saftey course and bump off 15 to 25 dollars of the fee for license. So great.

>>32248330
All of my gun purchases have a 20 minute delay, then go through.

Virginia pretty based with gun laws (for now)

>>32253106
Lol I'm just surprised he didn't come back and shoot you with it

>>32254273
No clue, but it's super fucking annoying to find a gun I want at Cabela's, reserve it so I can save a bit of money for a week or two, drive the half hour there after having saved money, get gun, then be told I can't fucking have it because I get a background check hold EVERY FUCKING TIME.

>>32254722
Gander Mountain and Cabela's are pretty fucking busy most days. You're better off going early as fuck on a weekday to get what you want.

Kitchen table FFL dealer here. I call my customers as soon as I have there goodies. I charge $10 and do the background check before they get to my house. I take their pre-filled 4473 and check it, fill out my stuff, check your ID, and take the cash. You're gone in 5 min.

If they don't want to be rushed then they can just come over and do all the paperwork. We'll talk guns, I'll let him finger his gun, my wife will usually have cookies or something.

Using your 2a shouldn't cost money. I charge $10 because the ATF requires I do it as a business.

>>32254920
*their. I'm not retarded, just bad at phone keyboards.

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>>32253292
If you see something, say something.

>>32254920

Do they get to finger your wife?

>>32255013
Only if there are no cookies.

>>32254730
Can how busy an ffl is really influence your chance of getting your gun on time? That doesn't sound like it should be my problem.

>>32249065
>free shipping to home on purchases over $250

Canada is ok sometimes

>>32248330
>pay $45 for a transfer
>definitely not the cheapest, but:
>get called the day it arrives to confirm it's there
>call later that day or the next to say it has been checked in, put on the book, and I can come get it
>it's right behind the counter in the original packaging for my inspection
>only enough packaging removed by shop to get to the serial
>NCIS intiated only after my inspection and approval
>in and out in under 30 minutes usually unless NCIS is slow

You get what you pay for, imho. The shop I go to has never once engaged in any shady shit, and has always been 100% transparent and upfront about the status of my transfer.

The horror stories I hear always seem to be coming from some literal who fudd running an FFL out of his garage for $10 transfers.

Looking to buy my first gun online. The reviews for cabellas/bass pro are terrible and id rather not deal with that. Does anyone know of a good FFL in CO?

>>32255963
CO is huge you fuckwit, what part?

>>32255963
Where at? Here in Junction I used RMGC for both of my transfers, neither had any issue at all. Don't remember the non-member rate for transfers but I'm thinking its $30.

>>32254681
He would have gotten charged for that too.

>>32252666
Checked for bad news

>>32253135
Not in California

>>32253228
I'll hate California with you anon.
Let's all move to AZ, NV and IT to fight this fucking plague from the right side of the battlefield.
Fuck being behind enemy lines

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>>32248330
>be me
>ordering first AR lower
>call around to check transfer prices at the various LGS
>yea, we're $25
>fuck yea, drop the order on that sunnabitch
>after several lifetimes go to pick up lower
>that's $35 for the transfer
>mfw

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>have local FFL dealer that works out of garage
>his real job is contractor
>has cheapest prices and transfer fees
>order lower and fedx said it arrived
>call FFL did my lower show up
>"let me check, yep it sure did"
>"I've been so swamped at my other job lately"
>"can you come get it in a few days"
>sure can. Thanks
>go to guy few days later he apologizes profusely
>says he's been real busy
>I say no problem and we talk guns for an hour
>leave satisfied customer

>>32252090
>>32252112
the 35 dollar thing is ppt only which is person to person as in 2 individuals physically enter a gunstore and transfer a gun.

buying a gun from the internet could easily end up with 125 ffl transferfee since ffl transfer is whatever the gunshop sets it at

>>32249035
Did he died?

>>32252386
Also live in NJ

Question, the purchase permit for handguns is valid for 90 days, what happens if obtaining your handgun takes longer than the permit extends, and it expires before you obtain the gun?

I'd like to justify moving out of state for more freedom but I like my family too much

Anyone know a good FFL in Scottsdale or the valley?

>>32253834
Wait

Someone's walking around with an AK, in your name?

Correct me if I'm wrong but that sounds like trouble

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>>32254200
Rock better than stick, cannot load stick with full mineral jacket, ognon dumb

>>32253091
Newfag alert

>>32256545
if he never took possession its not in his name. this is pretty much he ordered it and it never showed up.

>buy gun from store
>accidentally put wrong address on paperwork (license doesn't match curred (previous) address, I move around a lot.)
>'hey these addresses don't match *stink eye*'
>luckily my CCW and DL have same address
>'oh yeah, sorry that's my temporary address, school and all :^)'
>gives me even stinkier eye
>brings out new paperwork
>'thanks man :^)'

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>>32256480
>Question, the purchase permit for handguns is valid for 90 days, what happens if obtaining your handgun takes longer than the permit extends, and it expires before you obtain the gun?

You can ask for a 90 day extension for any permits you have if they're going to expire before the gun comes in. Some PDs are quicker than others at getting these back to you. Some might let them expire and go "oops!" meaning you'll have to redo the whole process while your gun rots in the dealer's safe. And of course the dems in the fucking legislature shoot down any mention of having a permanent handgun permit like the shotgun/rifle one, despite the fact that this system originates from the fucking 60s and it would make both the citizen's and police's lives a fuck load easier instead of having to go back and forth like this and create tons of paperwork. I love my home but I hate the fucking people that govern it.

>>32248330
>Wednesday isn't a good time

Lemme guess. You tried to save $10 by dealing with an FFL out of his house.

>>32248330
>Be Canadian
>See 1911 online thats on sale
>Order over 200$? Sweet free shipping
>Gun Arrives at doorstop 1 week later
>Feels Good Eh

>>32257131
Canada's gun laws are kinda wonky, but also kinda based. Truly America's deserved hat.

>>32257175
Ya, some things are nice, like cheap SVT-40 and Norinco M14`s for 400$, all AR`s are looked at the same regardless of barrel length. and buying guns online and having them shipped directly to your house is nice.

All AR-15 being restricted, along with any pistols (restricted means you can only shoot them at a govt approved range), 10 round limits on pistol mags, 5 round limit on semi-auto rifle mags. and RCMP randomly declaring certain guns are prohibited sucks though.

>>32257223
>buy SBR AR for regular price
>practice at gubbmint range
>want some pmags
>get a "special present" while visiting yank friends

roll the dice anon. you know you want to.

>>32248330
I know that feel, took me 2 tries to find a good FFL. Best thing is that they are really polite and it only costs $25 per transfer or $40 for 2 firearms on the same day.

They do make you wait a bit and are a somewhat unorganized but doesn't bother me since I've never had issues with them. I never would've expected polite guys at a pawn shop.

Dealt with a kitchen table FFL for the first time on Tuesday. It was actually a really pleasant experience. I've only ever bought anything at a popular retailer before with multi-hour wait times, so it was a breath of fresh air to show up for an appointment and be done in ten minutes. I'm kind of a poorfag, but I'll gladly work around an appointment time for the convenience.

>Buy first handgun online
>contact FFL, no reply
>email again and call the next day
>no answer, no reply
>Go with FFL #2, no problem, everything is sorted
>4 days later FFL #1 calls me and the guy is berating me about how i went with a different ffl
>fuck you too
>Next day go in to pickup gun at FFL #2
>get delayed
>not salty half expected it since permanent resident and first handgun.
>Just enough time goes by to get home, get call that nics check went through.
>Dammit.jpg
>Drive back, like 930pm, store closes at 10
>Get gun, sign, clerk hands me box "says your good to go!"
>"But I havent paid yet?"
>Guy walks away, am stuck for 20 minutes trying to flag down someone to come fucking help me so i can pay for the transfer.
>Shop is deserted
>Walked out.
>Havent stopped worrying about it till this day.

Never again. I still wake up thinking i might be a felon.

>>32258238
Kek. You're not a felon over 20 bucks.

>>32258353
Are ya sure though? The whole thing just freaked me out.

>Anderson lowers were on sale $40 each, free shipping on all orders over $100.
>Call FFL. No answer. Email. No answer.
>Used them several times in the past, never got a response.
>Call different shop.
>Tell them THREE lowers. They tell me the transfer will cost $40.
>A fuck load for a transfer, but there's three lowers.
>Place order, send ffl info.
>One week later tracking says they got them
>Call, "don't have them yet" called daily for a week and finally they said I could come in.
>Pick them up and the fucks charged me $40 each.
>I complained and they offered to send them back for $20 shipping.
>They're anti black rifles and fuck all black rifle purchasers, I guess.
>Fuck those assholes.

>>32257085
Wait

If you own a handgun in NJ you have to continually refresh your permit to own it otherwise it's a felony to possess it?

>>32258907
no, you have to get a different permit for each handgun you purchase, before you can pick it up.

>>32254273
some stores use the internet and some call in. sometimes calling in takes a long time, sometimes the internet way is down.

>>32259139
Well that's as much of a relief as it can be

That's still a huge 2a infringement besides plain ridiculous, really hope Trump throws some Federal preemption laws our way

>>32256071
oh
oh anon
oh im 'avin a giggle

>>32254949
what did you see? anything illegal? being a nazi isn't a crime and it doesn't make you an inherently bad person.

This is a little off topic but how does galleryofguns work. They have some decent prices that seem to include all the fees. Do the dealers charge any more fees on the guns ordered from here? Does it undercut their prices? Don't really want to undercut anyone's prices.

>>32256071
keeeeeeeeeeeeeeeek

>>32259330
Found the skinhead.

>>32254273
I used to work at GM. Their system they pay to use is shit and processes requests in the order received from everyone using the same system, not just for any single store. Get a 03 FFL, you'll get a proceed every single time, in the time it takes them to click "continue".

>Work at Ruger
>Gun stores don't charge for backgrounds or transfers for employees
>In and out in less than 10 minutes always

Feels good man

>>32254450
>If you sell a gun online send it yourself and not through a gunshop

Are you terminally retarded or just shitposting? Besides it being illegal to pass the credit card company fee on to the customer because you're a fucking like, mailing a gun to someone, let alone mailing it over state lines, is super fucking illegal. If you actually work in a gun shop or are an FFL kill yourself m8

>>32259889
found the cuck.

>>32254426
Single shot for stuff like Gen 4 Glocks, M&Ps, 1911s was closed year before last.

Single action revolver conversions are still good to go for off roster revolvers.

>>32248965
>admitting on /k/ that you allow Cabellas to ass fuck you with their insane gun prices

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>>32259330

>>32260333
Mailing a firearm to yourself through a common carrier like UPS or FEDEX is perfectly legal. Done it many times. Break out your ATF handbook before you assume please.

>>32255288
Can they have cookies and finger you??

>>32263730
>mailing a gun to sell it
>mailing it to yourself
choose one after learning to read

>new ffl/ range in town has online ffl transfers
>20$ transfers too breddy good around here
>they have a rep among gun fags for being sperg lords but I give them a shot.
>use them to transfer the world's last 1000$ mpx
>purchase goes fine, payment and shipping from gun broker fag all work as expected
>go to this store to pick up gun.
>they are a little spergy, but no big.
>head ffl guy says " boy that blue line discount is a hell of a deal huh"

>blue line
>hands me a form for all my official LEO info
>me: their must be some kind of mistake. I'm not LEO, and I got this on gun broker not from sig....
>I can literally see the spaghetti starting to spill out of this guy's pockets.
>he alternates between digging though papers, and intensely eyeballing me for minutes at a time.
>finally just goes "whatever" and calls one of his underlings to come process my xfer.
>stares daggers at me the whole time
>he obviously things I defrauded sig with fake LEO discount. Which I didn't.
>I leave kind of sketched out. He did the transfer so whatever.
>spend the drive home wondering how this mix up happened.
>get home and notice "LAW ENFORCEMENT ONLY" stickers all fucking over the mpx's box
>Fug

For the record, I bought it from a legit ffl. And it's NOT in any kind of illegal configuration. It's "LEO only" purely as a distributor preferce. But still. Wtf.

Not really an ffl issue, but that why I hate doing 3 party xfers.

>>32252723
That fucking monster.

>>32253091
kek hello newfriend

>>32248330
>Buy gun online
>Ask website I bought it from to include my phone number on the box
>Ship to ffl that does $15 transfers
>Guy at gunstore calls me when he gets it, I show up, show him my driver's license and CWP, give him $15 and leave with my gun

Sorry OP it's always gone smoothly for me. Worst was once I was too impatient to send that ffls info to a website and had it shipped to a pawn shop in a shitty part of town instead where the transfer fee was $25. Never again.

>>32263348
You find good deals, occasionally. Just because I stop in when I'm bored doesn't mean I buy anything.

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How long does it take for a background check to go through? My FFL finally got back to me and said he had to wait on the Illinois State Police to get back to him.

>>32267882

It depends on how the states do it.

>>32266118
pic of gun pls

I've never had the NICS take more than 2 minutes

Lucky I guess?

>>32265619
Perfectly legal for a private citizen to send a firearm to an FFL for transfer to somebody else. I've done it myself.

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>>32249111
>the bear has no front legs
>no right to bear arms in Cali.

I chuckled.

>>32269076
is this your first time?

>>32252371
>>"What scope? The pics must have just been taken that way for the auction. No scope was included."

You let him get away with that?

I would have straight up said it wasn't an auction, it was a private sale and I would be back with the 5-0.

>>32253106
>because we are not payin this motherfuckers fee for using a credit card

That's part of your contract with the credit company.

That guy was an asshole but this is retarded.

>>32253834
Yep. Whatever company the FFL used for shipping had an employee steal it.

It's a common thing that the thieving employee will do. They will have shipping labels pre printed for where they want to send things they pick out, and they'll just slap it on over the old shipping label.

>>32258378
There is a minimum limit for felony theft. It's not $20.

>>32248504

This is basically my FFL experience except my guy lives in a blue collar neighborhood and he calls me as soon as the gun comes in.

Imagine an old hippy dude with a beard, but who is 100% pro-gun rights.

He has all this ancient ammo in his basement from when he used to have a store, still has ancient price tags on it.

Guy is a fucking champion. Says he's retiring in a few years, gonna miss him.

>>32252383
I live half the country away now, I probably should have included that part

>>32254273
Current GM employee
System is slow as fuck becuase every GM uses the same system and servers.
If it goes down in one store it goes down in all stores.
If the system crashes you get an automatic delay unless a manager overrides and gives us wage slaves permission to call NICS.

>>32252772
Dude, that's like having it shipped to your door.

10/10 Jealous.

>>32256071
>wellplayedsir.jpg

>>32268730
I'm not the guy who was yelling at you earlier. I'm a different anon who is also upset at how fucking stupid you are. I'm actually angry after having to read your comments. You are so dumb you actually think you are helping. You're not. Please kys.

>>32252454
It's more than just in IL.

That's Federal law. Nobody but the purchaser is allowed to fill out the 4473, and it is 100% required to fill out a 4473 in order to run a background check.

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>live in commiefornia
>order cucked weapon online
>arrives at FFL LGS - shipping confirms
>2 days pass, no word from them
>go into LGS
>4:30pm. peak traffic hours. store is a ghost town
>not one but two employees with thumbs up asses
>"uhhhh...i dont see it. sorry we've been busy"
>wait more days
>finally get call to go in
>...so i can get 10 day waiting period started

>>32248330
Lol Americans...

>aus fag
>buy Russian capture k98k
>$750 a good price here
>ship to local gun store 68$
>3 weeks to arrive
>inspect. Need serviceability certificate $50
>get paperwork go home fill out forms online
>go.to post office with forms $189 to put new gun on license
>6 weeks later new license arrives.
>pick up gun
>have to wait till my next club shoot once per month Sunday 8am to shoot.

It's hard here folks.

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