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>>32245798
Because fags a gay.

>>32245798
because only /sp/ and /pol/ get them.

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Heres something neat I've found. Its an AK-74su holster made for aircrews during the Afgahn war

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>>32245865

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>>32245877

>>32245798
Because
>America
>America
>America
>America
>Canada
>America
>America
>America
>America
>Australia
>America
>America
>Switzerland
>Switzerland
>America
>America
>Finland
>America

>>32245798
Our Australians don't shitpost enough to justify it.

>>32245922
Hint:95% of the time, America
We get some Swiss and Aussies and Leafs and Mongols, once and a while a wild France or Brazillian, just no reason

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>>32245798
Because of butthurt foreigners who kick and scream whenever flags are brought up.
Flags are only natural, given how many people from the rest of the world browse /k/ these days.
it's a handy way of telling who's opinion to ignore and who to harass due to their nationality.
It's pretty easy already, but now they can't say >B .b .bbut I'm actually american guise trust me.

>>32245798
leafs

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6x6 BTR.

>>32245877
>>32245898

I'd totally walk around with that.

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The HMCS Bras'dor, The fastest unarmed warship going around 74MPH. The ship was named after the lake where the first Hydrofoil design was developed in Cape Breton, Nova Scotia.
Not really that much on it but if that shit got developed, My god we wouldn't have to rely on "Canadian Navy"

>>32245904
There have been a shit ton of chink shitposters here in the last few days.

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jap I 400 sub, carried 3 scout bombers

iirc all were scuttled to hide from soviets

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>>32245760

>>32245760
>"if we plastidip the entire frame and the body panels it won't rust!"
>"or we could just make them out of plastic"

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>>32246446
>all were scuttled to hide from soviets
if they weren't scuttled they would have probably change their concept of landing craft sub to aircraft carrier sub. the Russian came to late to the party in ww2

>>32246459
Imagine having the flu with that shit attached.

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war camaro

>>32246591

Is it possible to make a sub-aircraft carrier?

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Schützenpanzer Lang HS.30, West-German IFV that was used for something like 10-15 years before they were replaced by Marder IFVs.

>>32246850
The Yuktobanians did it.

>>32245904
>Israel
Inb4 /pol/ memes

>>32245760
Just when I say boy we can't miss. You out go and then you do this. You say this car is so cool, snapping it's axles like a fool. One more expensive stand off, who do you think I am? Boy I know you're special friend, but you don't seem to understand. We got heavier rollers I think you should know, try again tomorrow. Can't you see they're laughing at you? Get rid of it I don't care what you do back home. Would you care to explain? Who is this gaucho amigo, why is it standing in its tan green camo, and it's elevator shoes?

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this fucking thing

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First person to guess correctly gets to stay on my aircraft

>>32245904
Not enough canada desu.

>>32247150
lead blanket, nuclear testing

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55 S 55, a Finnish light recoilless anti-tank weapon, in service from the fifties to the eighties when it was replaced by M72 LAW and Apilas.

>>32247163
Nope

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>>32246850
Germans, Brits, French, Japs all made at least one.
I don't think the US got in on that idea until the last big one ended.

>>32247202
The Americans made Regulus cruise missile subs.
Considering the size and launch system of Regulus that pretty much counts.

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>>32247144

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>>32247220
It counts.
>see this here pointy thing, now you're gonna fire it from your boat.

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me and my friends-o
rolling in a benz-o

>>32247150
Hint: it's Israeli

>>32245833
/int/ too...

>>32247150
Glascis of the merkava on an M38A1

>>32245798
Do you want this to be /pol/? That's how you get /pol/.

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>>32247150
Jeep looks a little to asymmetric to fly.

>>32247410
WINRAR
It's from the very early development of the Merkava- it was a testbed to evaluate the visibility from the driver's position. So MANTAK took a Jeep, built a wooden glacis on it, and took it out for a ride.

>>32247410
Oh btw the other 2 hotheads didn't fly so good.

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>>32247443
Another early Merkava mockup-note the American-style 2 pin tracks, as opposed to the Centurion based 1 pin which would ultimately be chosen.

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>>32247503
Also note the lack of the bump in the glacis, which was introduced to improve driver visibility

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>>32246282
Speaking of which: The Sparviero-class

>>32247348
Argentina had some. The Brits found out that they didn't pay for them when Mercedes wouldn't provide parts support for them.

>>32247150
Development of Merkava ;3
At the top are visible a periscopes - vision range testing

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>>32247525
Running prototype, fitted with Magach 5 (M48) turret. Supposedly one was also built with a Centurion turret, but I have yet to see proof.
These were built to evaluate the tank as a whole in testing while the turret was still incomplete.

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>>32247597
Another pic of one of the wooden mockups

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>>32247623
Concept demonstrator for the whole "engine in front" business.

>>32246162
fugly btr

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>>32247654
Another prototype.
>access hatches: how do they work?

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>>32247692
Near final prototype with working (preproduction) turret, with Centurion in the background for comparison.

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>>32247723
Production tank, in service.
Israel is quite possibly the smallest country to develop and produce their own tank, not a bad achievement by any standards.

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>>32247776
In Lebanon, the Merkava proved itself a useful tool, with distinct advantages over the IDF's older tanks. However, it suffered a lot of teething troubles, and so the product-improved version entered production after a few years, the mark 2. Improvements include making the mortar internal, uprating the engine and installing an automatic gearbox, improved armor (the original Merkava was all steel, as a Blazer package hadn't been designed yet) and various minor changes.

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>>32245760
Deffchopter

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>>32247839
The mark 2 was replaced in turn by the mark 3, sporting an improved powertrain, improved vetronics, a 120mm NATO compatible gun and a revolution in armor- modularity. The ability to replace armor blocks at the lowest level greatly reduces the time needed to return damaged vehicles to action, as well as reducing obsolescence by allowing cheap simple upgrades to the armor.
>pic: Israel Tal, the man behind the Merkava, shows the details of the modular system to the head of the STRV 103 project (whose name eludes me), a close friend of his.

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>>32247899
Merk 3 turret base and modules

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>>32247915
I'll continue tomorrow if there's interest.

>>32247544
Holy FUCK.

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>>32247863
Fuck man I wish I had known I wanted to join the CIA at like 12-16 so I could have prepared for it instead of only getting into guns and the like after college with a meh degree.

>tfw I'll never hang out of a helicopter door with my AK shooting at bi-planes over the jungles of South East Asia

>>32246459

> Leaked concept art of Cyclops design in Christopher Nolan's gritty X-Men film reboot

> "I can't let you love me, Jean... because of this gun on my head..."

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>>32247348
it was also built under license by Peugeot. With Peugeot engine.

>>32247544
ITS A CUTE! CUTE!!!

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>>32245760

Just a model, but this was a real concept that made it to testing. Flew pretty well, but was eventually scrapped because "holy shit what the fuck guys."

>>32247951
do so

>>32248599
What were the supposed advantages to that offset fuselage? It looks so odd.

>>32248170

Getting into the CIA has zero to do with being guns and being a /k/ faggot will drasticly reduce your chances of being capable of being hired.

If you're a robot you can be an analyst. If you're capable of interacting with humans and don't waste your life shitposting on mongolian pottery forums and can speak a few languages you can get some interesting career choices.

>>32249271
Recon plane, essentially would let a camera shoot down unobstructed.

>>32247839
mortar?

>>32247549
In addition to refusing to service the G-Wagen, Mercedes demanded that the RAF give it back to them because Argentina hadn't paid for it so it was considered stolen.

BTW this attempt to get Mercedes to service it, was a whole 10 years after it was captured in the Falklands War. RAF personnel had been driving around Germany and other countries as a staff hire car for No. 18 Squadron for a decade by this point.

They told Mercedes to get fucked since it was war booty, and kept it a few more years. Now it's in one of the RAF Museums

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>>32248599
I'd argue Bv-141 was a bit more than a concept. 20 aircraft were built 12 of those were to go to an evaluation squadron and the rest were prototypes preceding that batch.

>>32249271
It was produced for a contract which specified a single engined reconnaissance aircraft. Wanting a better field of view whilst not using a second engine this asymmetrical design was settled upon.

Ironically the winner of the contract was the Focke-Wulf 189 with a very similar design that looked like a twin boom/engine version of the 141.

/r/ing a sub that can moved by manpower

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>>32249443
Yea, Merkava has a 60mm mortar in the turret

>>32249609
kool

>>32245760
That looks like a really shitty jeep wrangler concept vehicle.

>>32246282
ayy I've been on that boat

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>>32249609
And the Mk1's original external mortar

>>32246162
Could they not afford the other two tires?

>>32249681
>North Koreans
>able to afford
are you joking

>>32247144
>tfw they're bringing the concept back with drones

>>32247073
God,these were shit. Caused quite a political furor too.

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>>32249692
Yes, I was. Now enjoy one of the french attempts at vtol from the 50's. The coleoptere c 450

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Guess what this FAL killer is?

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>>32248915
I'm back.
In the early 2000s, the IDF developed the mark 4. Differences include the powerpack (more on that later), revised turret shape and layout, improved armor and armor modularity, roof armor (thickest on any production tank), all new electronics, 10 round loader assist device in with blowout panels in the rear of the turret, all electric turret drive (also present on the mark 3, but improved); a far greater proportion of the tank was now made in Israel.
The powerplant changes were major- the marks 1 through 3 used the AVDS 1790, in various outputs, with an Allison transmission. These were imported from the US and were broadly similar to the engines in the M60 and upgraded M48 and Centurion. However, there's a limit to how much power can be extracted from the thing, and its layout strictly limited the front arrangement of the tank- the AVDS 1790 is air cooled, so it needs big fans and airflow, resulting in the characteristic bulge at the front of the hull. The mark 4 uses an MTU powerpack with Renk transmission (built by Ashot Ashkelon in Israel under license); the MTU diesel is more powerful (1500HP VS 1200HP for the AVDS 1790), and is water-cooled. This means that the radiator design space is a little more flexible, thus allowing the designers to remove the bulge and get a nice uniform (and well armored) glacis.

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>>32253585
After the battering taken in the 2006 war, the IDF realized it wanted high protection against large ATGMs like the Kornet from all angles, not just the front. With regular armor, this would make the vehicle an immobile monster, so the trophy system, developed by Rafael, was chosen (after competition with Iron Fist) to be fitted to the tanks. While expensive, the system has proven itself in combat, beung capable of intercepting a very wide range of AT threats. As of a few months ago, all new Merkavas and Namers are fitted with the system on the production line.

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>>32253603
Seeing as the IDF has a limited budget, and the tank production plant isn't large, over the years the IDF has upgraded older equipment to keep it relevant. Pic is a Merk mark 2 dor dalet (with a non-upgraded one in the background). All active tank units are now mark 3 and 4, with reserve brigades still operating the mark 2, presumably to be phased out over the next decade as the crews trained on them are released from reserve duty.

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obligatory

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>>32253622
The modular nature of the mark 3 makes it far simpler to upgrade.

>>32253631
Mark 1s were either upgraded to mark 2 or retired, none were partially upgraded.
Pic is the boneyard where they currently reside.

Here endeth the lesson on the Merkava series, if there's interest I might do more like this over in /THG/.

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>>32253645
Fug forgot pic

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I guess I'll just post this

>>32247839
Yeah that's totally why they lost so many.
Loooool

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>>32253661
The mark 4 is the best looking IMO.

>>32246629
kekekekekek

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>>32253669
>many
They didn't actually lose that many, and any tank in existence at the time would have been vulnerable to much of what they faced.
There were however many losses to heli-launched Milans and HOTs though, partly due to lack of doctrine regarding such threats. The mark 2 greatly improved protection vs shaped charges.

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>>32247692
i have been to that museum

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>>32245760
>the Argentinians wont know what hit 'em

>>32253684
My favorite part of the place was the sign saying "climb on these at your own risk" and not "do not climb", cause even the curators know they can't stop anyone.
Last time I went was around 6 years ago, I should go again sometime.

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>>32253698
exsactly, i even climbed into this one just because nazi tank, shit is damn tight in there

>>32253698
>you can monkey on the metal boxes
fug, now I have to visit jewland

>>32253728
There are some pretty rare vehicles in that collection. Particularly the various Egyptian T-34 variants.
They also had some mismarked equipment, the plaque for the Achillies referred to it as a charioteer. I got a few good keks out of it back then, next time I go I'll make sure to see if it's still like that.
Yeah the Pz 4 was the best the Nazis ever made but it was still pretty bad compared to the Sherman.

>>32253731
Even /pol/acks seem to enjoy their visits, go ahead.

>>32253861
That's a M901 ITV isn't it?

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Belarusian IFV

>>32253749
I imagine the idea of Jews staying in Israel while they leave is incredibly enjoyable.

>>32246459
Why does it have such a fuck huge handle?

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>>32253888
From what I gather it's a Norwegian Model-142 Rakettpanserjager equipped with a TOW2 turret developed in Norway

>>32253902
I thought this was just a body kit for a bmp 2

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Swedish battle taxi using 20mm autocannon stripped from old Tunnan fighter jets

>>32253902

Ged out of here sdalger :DDDD

>>32253952
must be some flatlands in Sweden with an undercarriage that low...

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>>32253917
Compare this with the Danish attempt at mounting Tow2

>>32253960
The ground clearance is no worse than on a M113.

>>32253651
So does shit in bone yards ever get recycled or somthing? I've seen yards that have planes from the 50s still sitting around in them.

>>32253970
Should've just bought ITVs

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>>32253970
Wait that thing actually extends 6.5 meters up in the air

>>32253977
Yes

They use them for parts, scrap, foreign sales and sometimes reactivation

>>32253998
Woah

>>32253998
It looks like a tank killing ET...

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>>32253977
Generally, it stays as long as it might be useful. There's no point scrapping them when new, better steel is cheap and available, and knowing how the IDF prepares for doomsday, they'd like to keep the option of reactivating them or converting them to something else on the table. Current projects include "Ofek", a sort of mobile command post/APC based on the mark 2s being retired.
If you have a boneyard like AMARG, it's literally cheaper to leave it all there rather than scrap it, as scrapping requires careful disassembly, demilitiarzation, destroying classified or sensitive parts, sifting the different materials and shipping them off to recycling. New metal is higher quality and pretty cheap, so there's no real point-let it sit, maaaaaaybe it'll be useful some day (like when the Aussies bought replacement wings for their F-111, the Americans had stopped operating them so they got boneyard wings on the cheap instead of new production)

>>32254055
But the older M60s are being scrapped, possibly to free up real estate and possibly because they can no longer be effectively reactivated.

>>32253645
>>32253651

thanks for the interesting info, anon

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>>32253861
Meep meep

>>32252186
AR-18??

>>32253628
This pic legit?

>>32253912
The gun is held by a blind cave yeti.

>>32254036
GLA radar services

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>>32247348

One of the most common military and civilian cars made in vast quantities, sold in many different variants worldwide for decades; unknown equipment.

Ok.

>>32254574

Yeah it looks like.

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Any info on this?

>>32253628
legit?

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Smaller AAV-7 variant

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>>32254953

>>32252186

The filename says AR-16. Is it an AR-16?

>>32245865
I feel like Hideo Kojima would love this

>>32254953
>>32254970

What is this called?

>>32247544
comfy af

>>32247544
lets pool al our allowance money and buy one for our skull shaped island fortress

>>32255242
Arisgator. Basically an amphibious Gavin

>>32245865
>>32245877
I also was in that thread

>>32246459
If I whisper "Laputan machine", will you die?

>>32253622
looks great

>>32255281
>one
You want at least 2 for persistent presence anon.

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>>32249681
If you look closely they just made room to replace the stupid two part side "door" of the original BTR.

>>32248421
Lol that's like taking lawnmover and replacing the blades with sticks

>>32247503
((chosen)))

>>32247839
In lebanon they proved to be little more than mobile jew ovens this jew cant deal with reality.

>>32246674
That's just Mad Max

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>>32256199
You are aware that choosing is a action which can be taken even in the absence of Jews, right? And that not everything is a conspiracy.
These /pol/ memes get tiring after a while.
In this particular case, the single pin was preferred as it offered better rough-terrain (Golan Heights basalt) mobility without breaking, suffered less wear in the sand than double pin, and seeing how the IDF doesn't move its tanks on civvy roads all that much, tearing up asphalt was less of a concern.
Also, basing the running gear on the Cent allowed reusing its wheels and possibly bogies as emergency spares- I've seen Cent-based vehicles equipped with Merk bogies so the inverse may be possible.
>pic related, note Merkava mk 1-2 style 2 spring bogie on Cent-derived Puma.

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>>32256233
See my reply to the other commenter on that post. Also, do yourself and everyone else a favor and read a book about the lebanon war, as you seem to know very little about it. The IDF advanced into enemy held and fortified terrain, completely BTFO the Syrian army, and forced the PLO to retreat to Tripoli. During all this, the armored corps suffered smaller proportional losses than any other branch of the IDF land forces.
If they were half as shit as you claim, they wouldn't have stuck around for long. The IDF doesn't have money to waste on useless equipment.

>>32247144
stolen from the Nazis

>>32256358
Jew filth only group in the world that insists on calling battles wars. You know a jew is lying when its lips are moveing.

Six day war Pffffffff kike kool aid. All your enemies are still there jew at war with you . what war did you win?

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>>32253998

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>>32256409
Tell me, do you know what the difference between a battle an a war is?
Because if you know, and you know the history of the first Lebanon war/operation peace for the Galilee, you would know that is was comprised of many smaller operations and battles.
Considering your level of discourse, which is sub-par and sub-/pol/, I have to conclude that you are either an idiot who has no clue what he's talking about, or just "hurr durr just pretending to be retarded". In either case, remove thyself.

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>>32256459

I finally figured out why i always see the (((mobile ovens))) rolled over or inverted in accidents. The jew drivers mistake the clinking sound of the tank for change falling out of their pocket and are always looking at the floor.

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>>32256472

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>>32256437

>>32256472
Ccccccccombo breaker

>>32256470
just ignore it merk guy. after christmas the kids go back to school to get shot.

>>32256409
lol literal autism

>>32256437
Well, it signed peace treaties with both Jordan and Egypt, and the SAA has imploded.
You have been paying attention for the past 40 years, right?

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>>32256477
Ok that's enough bait for one day.

>>32256470
>>32256477
>ruining the looong tow maymay to shitpost about muh battles and edgy /pol/posting
fuck this place

>>32247776
If i was reviving Billions of dollars in military aid from the U.S. I am sure that i could develop and produce my own tank, too.

>>32256520
Typical jew an extorting treaty doesn't mean they dont hate you and pray for your death. And go to war at the first opportunity. You are a despised race of unwanted exploiting degeneracy

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>>32248255

I dont even want to imagine the smell inside one of those mobile ovens. Multiple sweaty swarthy jews . a combination of ass and rubber human. Costumes. The reek must be sickening

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>>32256565
Sorry m8
Also checked
>>32256580
For fucks sake. Look at pic, and tell me why all those recoeving more than Israel produce no tanks then.
Look at the right side to see why israel gets money- best return on investment for US foreign policy.
Also the aid money can only be used to buy American equipment, so if anything it would be a reason to buy Abrams.
And that's without even touching how small a portion of Israel's budget US foreign aid is.
Kindly keep /pol/ on /pol/.

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Panamanians used to created the most unholy combinations of ALICE and soviet web gear in the 80s, made stranger due to the fact that the loops on soviet equipment were far too small to accommodate the ALICE belts.

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>>32256630
You're not even trying anymore.
Also the mark 3 and 4 have AC built in to the NBC filtration. So it's nice and cool inside even in the desert sun.

Do Merciva crew revert to their demon form inside the tank to improve crew surviveability. In demon form can a jew tolerate hell fire outside of hell ?
Genuinely interested.

>>32256710
Good job derailing the thread. More shitposting is exactly what /k/ needs.

>>32256671
Jews only require air conditioning to keep their human baby lunches cool right? That and the organ's they harvest from Palestine from spoiling

>>32256633
The United States and Israel cooperate closely in a number of areas of military activity. The U.S. underwrites some of Israel's research and development of weapons, and has contributed significant amounts of money to Israeli defense projects such as the Merkava main battle tank and the IAI Lavi ground-attack aircraft. Israel is a participant in the F-35 Lightning II fighter development program and was offered access to the F-22 Raptor program, though it turned this down due to the high costs.[3]


any thing else you wold like to add?

>>32256769
Yes why did jews do 911 ?

>>32256795
What the fuck does that have to do with anything?

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>>32256671
This is like another holocaust

>>32256409
Are you wanna of those virgins who read Mein Kampf while jacking off to a SS flag?

Or are you literally so retarded that you believe /pol/

>>32256769
What is the type of track jews use to crush little blond American women who try to protect Palestine

>>32256769
There is much I would like to add, some of it unfortunately left out due to OPSEC.
Suffice to say, the Americans get more out of all arms development deals with Israel than Israel does. Far more. I also don't know where that source is from, as the Americans tried to kill the Lavi multiple times before finally succeeding as it was threatening the F-16 export market by being cheaper and more maneuverable.
Israel is being given the F-35 next week because the maintenance branch here- specifically יאא22, is a world leader in terms of pushing the envelope for aircraft and troubleshooting systems. They share everything with the US DOD, who has ordered Boeing to change their production drawings and maintenance manuals to match those of the Israelis.
So by giving Israel the F-35 they get bragging rights of "even the Israelis use it", and get the thing tested by the most competent guys there are. ( half the reason that the יאא finds problems so quickly is that the IAF regularly overstresses its airframes beyond manufacturer specs so all problems appear earlier). As for the F-22: Israel wanted, was told no. Israel wanted to buy new F-15s to replace older ones, was told no, forced to buy 35s or nothing.
Don't fall for the memes, the Americans never do anything unless they think they can gain from it.

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AVA-01, a modular vehicle chassis made in the UK during the "MRAP UP!" period.

Some neat tech in it, but not end user practical enough, so the Bongs build the rather sexy Foxhound instead.

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Did the burnt bodies of the tank crews that got blown the fuck up by the rag tag citizens in Lebanon, look like the imaginary holocaust victims?

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This could have been our service rifle.

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>>32256824
In what way?

>>32245760
Looks kinda neat but I have the feeling it's probably a piece of garbage.

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>>32256769
>Lavi ground-attack aircraft
Just noticed this.
>Lavi
>Ground attack
Top lel, the source is incompetent.

>>32256919
Sexy/10

>>32256980
10/10 would bang

>>32247544
>I must go, my people need me

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>>32256999

>>32256919
Knowing Finns it would have been ultra autistic over-engineered piece of hardware. Probably all-steel upper and lower also.

>>32255333
a what?

>>32257106
M113. it's doesnt have a nickname like gavin, or one at all actually.

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>>32245760
Your dick.

>>32254036
gorgeous

>>32256885
IIRC this is based on the same basic chassis as Jackal/Coyote

>>32254062
Americans are T55 tier
They could auction them off to a 20 000 combatant tribal war in Africa WITH ammunition and maintenance contract and not change the course of that conflict.

>>32257205

Yes it does, it's the M113 Gavin

>>32258913
Shit
M60s, not Americans
American built M60s

>>32258913
>yfw the average american grunt is comparable to a tank
COMMIES BTFO

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>>32247202
>>32248333
sexy but to bad they'll never exist again

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>>32254036

Found about it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astros_II_MLRS

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Best korean Pokpung-ho. Aka T-72 with bodykit.

>>32259873
The hull is more T-62 than T-72. Also the turret is completely new, the DPRK apparently has a institutional hatred of autoloaders.

>>32259873
>>32260498
well you could probably fit two of their human loaders in there instead of one autoloader. get like 3 second reloads unless it takes two of them to hold one round which sounds likely when you only get pigeons and snow coffee

>>32256367
Yeah. Look at the Lockheed cross

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>>32260498

>T-62

Or T-80.

>>32260533

It's not like they have money and tech for autoloader desu.

>>32257074
Everything must be milled. E V E R Y T H I N G
I'm studying mechanical engineering and me and my friend have been playing around with the idea of starting a gun company. What kind of weaponized autism would you like to see? Preferably something new, unique and Finnish.

>>32260859

Something that shoots flashbangs.

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Hey pokgai, hop in the dongfeng.

>>32256919
Where is that picture from? I want to know more about this rifle and the trials.

>>32260882
That's certainly unique but probably not very practical. Hard to see it having much popularity among consumers.

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>>32260930

I'm thinking something like mounted in a M113.

A MGL type grenade launcher on the top, but a bigger caliber that can shoot explosives, smoke and flashbangs on a bigger proportion.

>>32261024
And you would buy that?

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>>32261094

lol yeah.

Imagine like a big urban warfare (ex: Aleppo).

You're going with your M113 around the streets, then you spot a big number of rebels, then you shoot your 40mm(or bigger) flash grenade at their direction.

Burn their eyes, then their flesh.

>>32261140
My understanding is that weapons like that aren't legal for civilians in many places and not many go to Syria to fight sand people, especially with their own weapons. I think we need something a bit more conventional as our first gun.

>>32261194

Yeah, could be used for crowd countrol as well.

But you're right about the against civvies thing, UN would probably go [deep concern] about it and then turn it into a illegal weapon. Even though nobody gives a shit about UN these days.

>>32261232
How about some simple rifle? What's currently not available and you'd want to buy?

>>32261265

Idk desu.

I think rifles reached a level where it can't evolve much anymore. I mean all the possible idea seems to be already taken.

>>32261307
fg42 in 556

>>32245760

>that exposed turret
>yfw the gunner is fucked

>>32261307
I guess we just have to figure this out ourselves. I have a couple of potentially good ideas but there's still some work to do.

>>32261348
scout and patrol vehicle

>>32261346
That's a cool idea but not particularly unique, practical or Finnish. I'd rather make a 5.56 RK. Sako would probably sell the documents. Number one plan is still to design something completely new.

>>32261399
556 mini bren?

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atlast

This is the magazine system for AAIs submission to the United States NIBLICK grenade Launcher program, itself an outgrowth of project SALVO, an effort to create the United States next generation infantry rifle in the 1960s. the determination was that there was a need for a grenade launcher; this inevitably netted the US the M203, but not before AAI submitted a design with a 3 round en-bloc that would have fit onto their project SALVO submission.

>>32261346
>>32261352

Good idea.

Or a MG-42 comeback.

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>>32261441

Fuck, this is the wrong picture, but what I was going to post next.

That is the (X)M-148E1, a three shot conversion of the M79 by AAI/China Lake, that served along the same time the aforementioned AAI NIBLICK concept was mentioned.

This is the project NIBLICK proposal.

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>>32261497

This is a later submission from AAI, firing the XM645 .22 Caliber Flechette cartridge, in a compact rifle. This was called the "XM-70",

>>32261439
>>32261444
Semi-auto machine guns make no sense. Autos aren't legal anywhere.
Think harder. Now's your chace to influence me.

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>>32261514

And here we have AAIs Pseudo-Special Purpose Individual Weapon (SPIW) submission, a merger and evolution of the AAI project SALVO submission and the NIBLICK launcher (evolved).

>>32261524
thats why i said mini bren, basically a scaled down bren to AR size

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>>32261542

And as the concept looked in 1966, loaded with its 3 shot EnBloc

The ping would have been impressive, to say the least.

>>32261549
What's the advantage over an AR or any rifle for that matter?

>>32261524

GAU-8 scaled to a M2.

>>32261597
if your goal is to make a weapon that bests current designs you may be shit out of luck, i was under the impression you where doing it for shits and gigs, something semi unique at least

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>>32261572

The AAI corperation was the Armys golden child of the late 1950s to the 1970s, when Colt firmly replaced them in that role. The Grenade the NIBLICK used was as unique as their submission. Seeking to overcome the disadvantages and bulk a multi-shot launcher would bring, AAI designed the DBCATA Grenade, or Disposable Barrel and Case Area Target Ammunition. The case was rifled, and, effectively, the 40mm round acted as its own barrel and ammunition.

The AAI SPIW was a total failure. It was poorly engineered from a humanistic standpoint, being very heavy, having poor ergonomics and even worse manual of arms. However, it is noted that AAI never INTENDED their submissions, truthfully, to be operated by man. AAIs weapons were testbeds, never really intended to see combat use, at least, not as they were submitted for testing.

>>32253998

BE ADVISED

>>32261612
Makes even less sense and would cost more than a small island.

>>32261626
I can do either or both but the product needs to make sense and have sufficient demand. Starting a real company just to produce /k/ memes won't be very profitable no matter how many internet points I would get.

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>>32261658

And heres a lovely view of their "XM-70" rifle.

>>32247085
Underrated

>>32261688
so what kind of product would you idealy create and why should people buy it?

>>32261725
That was my question. I have a few designs on the drawing board but at this point I'm open to ideas. Preferably some assault rifle that could be marketed to both military/LE and civilians. And I know that some of you are touchy about that term but you get the idea.

>>32246162
That thing looks stocky as shit. Is it wider than a standard BTR cause of the lack of tires or am I just fucking retarded?

>>32260498
Gotta put all those fucking people somewhere

>>32261693
>60 round magazine
>3 grenades ready to shoot
>bayonet

We are truly living in times of lesser men than in the past.

>>32260671
I've read a few books that had interviews with military defectors and can recall at least 3 instances of them mentioning them. Apparently they swore off the things after the gulf war. One of them mentioned that they had received a few T-72s that were used as test platforms and development guides and the first thing they did was take out the autoloaders.

It kinda makes sense, the USSR wanted them to reduce crew numbers of short term conscripts while the Inmin Gun is an all volunteer force with 12 years terms of enlistment. Why bother with a temperamental, expensive and slow autoloader when your human loader is going to have spent 6-7 years drilling at his job?

>>32261884

yeah wtf
someone fund it.

>>32261688
Would there be a European market for a straight pull, roller-locked bolt action? I ask this thinking of the Browning T-Bolt and how having something smoother cycling and in a centerfire caliber would be nice.

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>>32245760

>>32253631
>triple machine guns
is this really neccesary
is this meant for troops being carried in the back to use or what
waht fukc

>>32261991
Would this suffice?
lynxrifles.fi
They're not 100% what you described but close.

>>32261693
>>32261884
>>32261914
fold out butt plate and bipod that can telescope out to 3x the pictured length so the gernade launcher can be used as a mortar. Make it the basic weapon.
>Infantry company begins engagement from 1.5 miles away with 15 second 500 round 40mm barrage
>Survivors take another barrage at 2-300 yards
>Sole remaining survivor killed while trying to surrender by 100,000+ rounds of suppression fire
>Target was 4 man insurgent squad section
>1/4 million in munitions fired in 5 minutes
>Enemy starts new tactic: put up cardboard cutout of insurgent, throw out a handful of firecrackers, run like hell
>Entire US military bankrupted after first division scale engagment

>>32246282
Isn't "unarmed warship" a bit of an oxymoron?

>>32246674
It's a shitty car with a terrible paint job and a cow catcher...

>>32254500
>>32254940
filename

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>>32262054
They have all the problems I see with the T-Bolt and that are shared by the Schmidt-Rubin rifles before the K31, being that they lock at the rear of the receiver and require the bolt body to extend further forward to reach the breach.

I was thinking more along the lines of the MG42 bolt, or at least the head, and then having the bolt lock into a barrel extension to ease production and lower cost.

More importantly, the action should be smoother, as the primary camming device and the bolt pull would both be linear, hopefully eliminating the effort of releasing the lugs as seen in the Schmidt Rubin rifles and in the Blasers I have used.

As for feeding from magazine, I would take a page from Mossberg's bolt actions with the falling push feed.

Also, I am burgerkin, so I have never handled a Lynx in person.

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>>32262215
I see where you're going with this. Interesting idea. European hunters tend to be traditionalists, so can't say, if this would be a success but at least it's better than a semi-auto MG.

Lynx is probably the highest quality manufacturer we have. Criminally unknown but also unreasonably good rifles. The bolt is smooth and highly regarded but still not what you described. You should read some reviews on them. There are plenty online and they can be found with Google. My dream rifle is actually the Target model in 6.5 Lapua.

>>32262660
I was familiar with them and knew they were well regarded. They just are one of those higher end rifles rarely (if ever) imported to the US, and I will likely never see one in person.

I originally found out about them when looking for a centerfire straight pull.

As for the roller-locked, I imagine that taller rollers could be used to create a narrower bolt and slimmer overall action, something that could be fashioned into a more traditional design.

>>32263008
I already came up with a different idea for a smoother straight pull. We'll see, if it ever materializes.

>>32260859

I'd love to see a 10mm C96

>>32260898
>Where is that picture from?
Pic related, lower left corner. However I can't tell where that pic comes from. I saved it here at /k/ some time ago.

>I want to know more about this rifle and the trials.
Me too. So far I got nothing much.

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>>32263176
And forgot the fukin pic

>>32262001

did I read that correctly?

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XNBL-1

America's first attempt at a Strategic Bomber

>>32263166
Doesn't really match what I'd like to do.
>New, unique and Finnish

>>32260898
>>32263176

The only book talking about it seems to be an unicorn, too.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/ARMALITE-AR10-BY-MAJ-SAM-PICKULA-AR10er-NEWSLETTERS-/120824383709?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c21b1c8dd

>>32263324
How about then that Armalite AR-10 in 6.5 Grendel.

Or, AR-15 lower with AR-18 upper in 6.5 Grendel.

Gun Jesus reviewed that Hesse Vulcan rifle.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9SJYJy1xuU

It was a disaster otherwise but with that exact good idea. Who knows if the Finns actually had adopted an AR design, it could have been ended like that.

>>32263257
looks like its got a lot of lift, very good for carrying many bomb

>>32247189
Radar deflection?

>>32253698
This is separate from Latrun?

>>32258913
Tried selling, no one was willing to buy.
Perhaps Israel wasn't willing to sell to warlords, maybe nobody wanted any as they've already got T-55s. Either way, didn't happen.

>>32262048
Suppressive fire. I've heard stories, a single Merkava can lay down more fire than an entire infantry heavy weapons platoon.
The .50 was originally used for target practice (main gun simulator), but it was soon realized that there are situations where you'd rather have a .50 than a 7.62, such as shooting through walls.
The guys in back thing is a meme, you can ony carry around 2 guys with no equipment, if you want more you have to get rid of your main gun ammo and it won't be comfortable or safe.

>>32249609
Fucking awesone
I bet this is great for urban warfare

>>32264255
Batei Ha'osef (the collection house) in Tel Aviv. Has rarer stuff like prototypes, you can climb on shit, and has a whole load of war booty (Russian tanks, artillery, APCs, various collected small arms( no touching there)). I haven't been in arounf 5 years, next time I go I'll take a good camera cause I can't find the pictures from last time.

>>32264475
It's useful for many things
-Firing flares so the infantry can see at night
-Firing smoke to cover their advance annd to cover the tank's movement
-Firing HE to destroy enemies out of reach of the main gun (say, behind a hill).
It's been useful enough that the IDF has kept the function in the mark 4, and is planning on keeping it in future vehicles.

>>32245760
allah snackkkbarrr!!!!!!!!

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>>32263273
That's Fallout as Fuck!

>>32259873
T-72M4CZ best T-72

>>32261991
European market have great Blaser R8 for this. Why do you think your gun will be better than Blaser?

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A "People Sniffer" in Vietnam

>>32264667
I don't know, I wasn't the one asking for design ideas.

I like the R8, one of the few modern, higher end European hunting rifles to make it over here in any numbers, but I do have a few complaints.

Firstly, the cost is too high to be viable in general consumption in the US, and I would imagine a cheaper rifle would sell to an extent in Europe if the quality (and frivolous flourish) was there. That said, I would like to see a rifle decidely better than my last couple Euro-gun adventures, which were a Portuguese produced FN/Browning/Winchester three lug bolt action and a UGB-25 Excel. Of the two, the UGB-25 was the more useless.

I also don't like the rocking motion on the R8 that operates the cam that expands the bolt head. It was one of my few complaints on the actual manual of arms after firing one. I am curious to see what a strictly linear bolt actuation can do to improve this. Also, the elephant head on the bolt handle of the one I fired was uncomfortable.

Lastly, I wasn't particularly blown away by the barrel change system. I understand that multi-caliber setups are useful in more regulated markets, but the whole affair seemed overblown. Accuracy with production ammo was good, but not great, in both 300 Win Mag and 243 Win. I would not be offended if less caliber flexibility could reduce costs. Remember, I am still talking about a bolt that locks into a barrel extension, meaning caliber swaps between related chamberings would still be very simple, even more so than even the current barrel nut budget rifles sold currently.

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>>32259020

>>32264973
Sparky autism worst autism

>>32264735
A what? Explain

>>32247150
for deflecting radar?

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>>32265045
Read down
>found another pic

>>32262001
Where the hell can I get a 5.56 chambered robocop gun?

>>32263625
Not bad ideas. Mind if I make either of those with long-stroke gas piston?

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I'm sure some of you know this one already, but it's worth posting. Patria NEMO 120mm mortar system mounted on a boat, which can fire 3 a round burst in 12 seconds, with the rounds impacting simultaneously. Can do direct fire as well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3LfWKfCaIiM

>>32265029
Its a people sniffer its supposed to detect people hiding in brush by their sweat instead the backpack version just detects the guy using it, a more successful helicopter version was later made.

>>32265029
It's a piss and sweat detector.
Wellcome to 'nam, son.

https://www.forgottenweapons.com/xm-2-personnel-detector/

>>32265743
That's pretty cool.

>>32265628
Siitä vaan.

What I'm interested to see is that an original steel design would be very Finnish thinking. Certainly 7075 is good stuff too and has been proven to work in arctic with other materials. Personally I'd like rule out the intrinsic effect of thermal expansion between dissimilar materials in clearance critical design points, but that's just me.

>>32265793
I got one sarg. Nvm that's me
No wait I got one sarg. No wait that's me again
and over and over and over

>>32256459
good banner submission desu

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>>32256296
ignore /pol/tards, post based asf tank facts

>>32256459

This. >>32266889

Somebody should contact a mod or something.

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>>32265892
it can be fitted to AFVs too

NEMO mortars get my dick hard

>>32266841
That's engineering basics, so don't worry about it. Aluminium is a good option in that it's light and I've also thought about steel skeleton with polymer shell to retain structural rigidity but also make handling of the weapons better in cold environments. Idiots freeze their fingers with metal parts.

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>>32256633
>Even fucking Haiti gets more than the kikes

My life is a lie

>>32267425
yeah.

So, maybe a year from now? More?

>>32267798
Way more. First I need to graduate, which hopefully doesn't take too long, then we need to start with some smaller products to accumulate enough money to buy bigger and better machinery, think of a good design, actually design the rifle, test it, finalize the design, figure out a way to sell it internationally, manufacture it and then you'll get something. Maybe. Most likely it won't be anything you ever wanted but someone else hopefully finds it appealing.

>>32267849
Good luck.

>>32267990
We'll need it.

>>32246459
rusty metal skull gun

>>32253998
well... that went from "derpy" to "lol, that's fuckin hilariously badass" pretty quick.

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>>32256409

>>32268499
/k/ is /pol/

>>32246850
Anything is possible with enough alcohol, money, and determination.

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>>32269421
No. Leave /pol/ memes on /pol/, without shitting up other boards.