Syrian war

>>32244713
>Did the Syrian military tactics and training get better

They got WHOLE lot better during the years.I remember, back when the war began, that they were sending tanks,and only tanks, to patrol and counter the insurgents inside cities.Then,after much trial and error, they found out that sending infantry with tanks as support was much better than sending them alone

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>>32244777
>mfw them trying to get rid of assad and destabilize Syria only ends up making Syria stronger and every other ME country weaker

>>32244777
I have seen videos of Syrian troops bunching up in the open and then getting blown up by a well placed ATGM. Idk if those videos are old, but I hope they are. Bunching up is such an amateur mistake.

>>32244879
They're still arabs and will always be retarded, just not quite as pants on head now.

>>32244823
>Syria
>stronger
>implying

>>32245144
Hey Rabbi, I know you don't like Syria very much, but it's true, they are getting stronger with this war experience combined with Russian and Iranian help.

>>32244823
Syria was important regional player before, now its a FFA. But they are still probably better than Iraqis.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=1d1_1481126604&comments=1

Video of Iraqis losing a company.

>>32245180
>lose a chunk of your population, economy, military
>cities and villages blown to shit
>but at least they don't send only tanks to patrol cities anymore!
No, the war has made Syria weaker. Like wars usually do.

>>32244823
>only ends up making Syria stronger and every other ME country weaker

actually Syria is economically crippled and it will take decades to repair the damage to become even close to the standards of their immediate neighbours

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>>32244713
Where's Aleppo?

>>32244879
>>32245135
Most of those guys in those videos are NDF, not SAA. The NDF are a bunch of govt loyal militias, and trained as such.

Hezbollah and Iranian soldiers probably helped a fair bit too.

>>32245246
This. Any impressions that the Syrian army has grown stronger is probably just reflecting the fact that those that remain are more experienced and probably weren't as retarded to begin with.

There are bold soldiers and old soldiers but no old, bold soldiers etc.

>>32245246
>No, the war has made Syria weaker. Like wars usually do.

The Syrian army is now one of the most capable fighting forces in the region. The premium units taking Aleppo are going to be a real nightmare if America-Israel decide to flood their countries with more Jihad-niggers. Hezbollah is probably more experienced than any units in the IDF.

Plus Syrian unit is going to be a lot stronger, since the Anglo-Zionist alliance has failed to break the support of the people for Assad and the nation state - notice how the Western propaganda was always emphasizing the sectarian nature of the conflict, it was their primary aim.

So Syria emerges scarred, but more focused, capable and united.

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>>32247276

Some good footage from Aleppo recently showing a much leaner and more aggressive force:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIqic6nK-A4

The emotion at the end is more real than 3-years worth of contrived, White Helmet faggotry.

>>32247373
>Leaner and more aggressive force

Did we watch the same video? Looked like any old group of arab soldiers doing #justarabthings to me.

Why do they like to dance back and forth out of cover while hipfiring fully automatic?

>>32245144
>>32245803
>>32247276

Syria got to get rid of all their traitors, Islamists, and enemies within.

That alone will help them propel towards a stronger county in the decades that follow.

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>>32247373
>showing a much leaner and more aggressive force:

looks like the usual BS to me: Araps are allergic to aiming their rifles

@Syrian being stronger now: they lost millions of people who are now refugees everywhere. you think those syrians now being refugees in germany, Austria etc. will go back voluntarily? Syria is going to experience the same brain drain and IQ drop that Yugoslavia had as a result from the war and people leaving. And they will likely never really recover.

>>32245186

>Video of Iraqis losing a company.

You mean video of broken vehicles?

>>32247862
i love how the ak looks with the carrying strap around the sight like that

>>32244713
>Did the Syrian military tactics and training get better, or did they just piggy back on Russian bombings? Or is it a combination of both?

All + Hezbollah

>>32244823
>Syria stronger

You are correct though

It also indirectly boosted populism and weakened the EU through rapefugees and Turkey through ISIS+PKK.

>>32247741
Valid point. They got rid of the traitor "rebel" scum.

>>32247329
All of that battle hardening will serve them well in future conflicts. The veterans of this war will pass on valuable knowledge to their boots aswell.

>>32245186
Iraqis are doing better than the Syrians.

Most of their countries population centers are returning and half of the shia militias who were shooting at the government are now allied to them, and the peshmerga and the Iraqi government have successfully done joint operations for the first time offensively.

Iraq's going to recover relatively quickly now that the bulk of the sunnis are pacified thanks to ISIS ruining their brand and getting the international community pissed off at them.

Syria is still fucked even if they take aleppo since they have foreign troops all over the place and a turkish invasion in the north. Hell Iraqi PMUs might join the fight when Iraq is fully liberated and pour over the eastern border too.

>>32247741
>decades
Syria doesn't have decades and has western troops INVADING ITS TERRITORY.

That's BAD. And keep in mind one accidental US airstrike killed 81 Syrian soldiers. Imagine if we actually tried or if you dumbfucks don't listen to based putin and try to mess with Trump's America.

>>32251377
The Turks won't do anything too stupid. NATO will only defend them if Turkey gets attacked first, not if they provoke something.

Syria soldiers didn't turn it around thanks to better training or equipment. Most of them are either dead, AWOL, or have joined the rebels. Only a handful of units from the SAA are still intact, and they aren't capable of operating independently without Iranian help.
The tide turned on the rebels thanks to extensive support from Iran filling their campaign with warm bodies and Russia giving them an air force worth using. Without groups like Afghan and Iraqi Shiite volunteers, and Russian bombers overhead, not to mention the funds necessary to maintain the small army of private contractors which operate semi-lawlessly across government-held Syria, Assad would have lost to the rebels long ago.

>>32251177
>They got rid of the foreign jihadist scum.
FTFY

>>32245186
thats a video of abandoned destroyed vehicles, not even a single fucking body to be seen, you gullible little fuckstain

>>32244713
At some time a Syrian General who was a shitbag defected to the rebels. I think it has something to do with it.

>>32247872
Do I see not 1 but two MP44's there?

>>32247872
Mandic bro, make the proper Middle East Thread please

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>>32244823
>>32244777
Kek, there's no Syrian army anymore.

The only brave and good hearted soldiers have decided to create Free Syrian Army, which are 10 times more based than Bachar's girls and shias and Iranian niggers.

FSA WILL NEVER LOSE THE WAR TO LIBERATE HOME COUNTRY FROM DICTATOR ASSHOLE

>>32245135
Arabic communist countries such as ( Syria, Egypt, Algeria...) have the shittiest armies because of corruption and they have nothing to fight for. They are very much hated in the Arab world.
We still have hope in some other countries soldier's such as Jordanians and UAEs... They do their job by heart

>>32251650
And dont forget the rabid mudslimes losing the war in the end because someone bitched out of helping them, arming them and financing them when Russians got involved causing a painfull worldwide ass quake.
You also forgot to say if Allah is great.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-FPcbleciY

>>32253637

>uae

lmao

>>32253637
>FSA WILL NEVER LOSE THE WAR TO LIBERATE HOME COUNTRY FROM DICTATOR ASSHOLE
You delusional, lad

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>>32253637

>SAA Palmyra regimental headquarters come in please
>Anybody come in please!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bqk1BjkaD4A

>>32253800
>http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=1d1_1481126604&comments=1

TFW you have to help your own ground crew

TFW your ground crew have to help air traffic control

TFW everything is rusty

>>32253823
They preformed the best in Yemen and were most professional

>>32253900
You will witness

>>32244823
All tactically competent Arab commanders seams to be with ISIS. All other sides, it just numbers and a large quantity of badly organized firepower.

>>32253637
>UAE
>UAE soldiers do job by heart
>Get ships sunk by Houthis rebels
>Get ass handed to them by Houthi rebels

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>>32254048
>Were the most professional
>Lost advanced American warship to desert dwelling rebels

>>32251650
>If side A wouldn't have foreign support it would have lost to side B which is running on unlimited foreign support long ago
Thanks Sherlock

>>32254210
>advanced american warship

it was a prototype cargo catamaran

>>32254195
>>32254210

Yeah, a ship with no defenses and used as a supply ship.

Nice arguments here, you got more?

Unlike you, I get my informations from soldiers in there, the UAE were very effective and organized. Period.

>>32245186
>"thousands dead"
>not a single body or drop of blood
okie.

>>32244879
if you haven't noticed, the atgm crews almost always are firing from behind or to the side of enemy tanks or groups of INF.
The atgm crews are breaching the lines and attacking from behind.

Is this the thread where I can post ISIS captured SAA prisoners around Palmyra?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdUv8F7MrUo

>>32254052
>Islamistaboos actually believe this

>>32254195
You forgot to mention that they don't even fight their own wars. They pay South American mercenaries to fight for them. The only thing UAEs soldiers did was shooting on their own revolting population.

>>32251377
>Iraqis are doing better than the Syrians.
The incapable Iraqis have the USA, UK, and France doing massive air raids and helping them with special forces on the ground and military advisors. They receive almost unlimited military aid from the USA. It's because of them the ISIS rose up in the first place.

>>32247862
Aiming is overrated. You don't need iron sights or red dots when you have Allah guiding your bullets.

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>>32254052
>All tactically competent Arab commanders seams to be with ISIS.

>>32247329
Having experience means nothing when your getting your ass JDAM'd by F-15s.

>>32254414
wtf. how do they get capture FFS, after 6 years they don't know that they are dead anyway ?????

>>32247329
>The Syrian army is now one of the most capable fighting forces in the region.
This delusion.
The actual, core Syrian military disintegrated years ago. It's now a patchwork stitched together with militias of dubious quality.

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>>32244823

>>32253800
>>32254017
That's some pretty ghetto shit.

>>32253800

Slavshit has truly been built to endure the Apocalypse and even more. Decades old, operated by Arabs and lacking spare parts and everything.

Impressive. I wonder how stuff like the Starfighter would fare if put in the same conditions.

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>>32253637

>FSA WILL NEVER LOSE THE WAR TO LIBERATE HOME COUNTRY FROM DICTATOR ASSHOLE

and everyone on /sg/ wonder where "Countryside" has gone

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WHO /pol/ HERE?

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>>32253637
FSA BTFO
S
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>>32253637
>SA WILL NEVER LOSE THE WAR TO LIBERATE HOME COUNTRY FROM DICTATOR ASSHOLE

Just stop, this is gonna end up like all of your previous "predictions"

>>32254796

They seem to be forgetting that it was only until after the Russian intervention that things have turned around for Assad (largely prompted by disasters like the Spring 2015 Idlib loss), and even then there have been setbacks after the intervention when the best quality troops and air support were unavailable (like the June 2016 Raqqa offensive). Even with the smattering of newly delivered Russian equipment, I would think that the 2010 SAA would put up a better fight against Israel than the 2016 SAA.

Also, not forgetting the example of the Gulf War, where the highly experienced and numerous Iraqi veterans of the long Iran-Iraq war were routed in weeks by a US coalition with next to no recent practical experience of warfare.

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>>32253637

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>>32255793

hi there :)

/K/ - /meg/ = infos but boring
/pol/ -/SG/ = overkill of entertainment

>>32255825
>highly experienced and numerous Iraqi veterans of the long Iran-Iraq war were routed in weeks by a US coalition with next to no recent practical experience of warfare.

Bear in mind that Iraq-Iran war was literally WW1 tier

>>32255641
>Starfighter
Well, it didnt do very well in our Bundeswehr so I dont think Arabs would do well with it. Slav shit is truly something.

>>32254718
True, they have to hire others to fight their wars. UAE is very incompetent.

>>32254296
Oh nice anecdotes buddy, and since you believe whatever people tell you without evidence, I have a 13 inch dick and fuck supermodels on a daily basis after I'm done with my shift of being a space shuttle door gunner in Mars.

>>32244713
the Syrian Army is pretty much only tanks, artillery and logistics now. The boots on the ground are either shitty NDF militia, Hezbollah, Iraqi/Iranian Shia militia, or Central Asian mercenaries.

>>32254796
Remember, the same people who think this shit also have deluded themselves into believing that the war has always been Assad vs. Jihadis, and no moderate rebels ever. When early on we had officers and whole fucking regiments defecting to the rebels en mass. And then they defecting back to Assad when the moderate rebels were eventually crushed to the point of irrelevance. Most of the officers didn't though, especially the really high ranking ones, who just left Syria altogether.

>>32255825
>I would think that the 2010 SAA would put up a better fight against Israel than the 2016 SAA.
Without question.
Pre-war, the Syrian military was one of the more formidable in the region. Not the strongest and mostly unable to maneuver, but it could prevent gains from an enemy.

It's been replaced with the equivalent of 4-6 light infantry divisions that have some experience, but no large-scale combined arms acumen, with poor rear echelon support, some scattered artillery, and no real air force.

It's not for nothing the Israelis have been decommissioning or shrinking their older armored brigades and integrating infantry/field intelligence with them; the last large conventional force opposing them no longer exists, and won't be rebuilt for decades, if ever.

>>32244823
Always good to see weebshits who know nothing about the war offer their uninformed opinions.

Also
Why is it that people on this board are so pro-russia/pro-assad? Is it just because they're all cucks and like dictatorships? I sort of thought that they didn't like big governments. Guess I was wrong?

>>32247329
>The Anglo-Zionist alliance
You sound like one of those cringey faggots who tries to "redpill" people on /pol/. You're either a slavboo or a paid poster, either way, please drink bleach you fucking vatnik snownigger.

>>32256105
They're either horny for slavs or just retarded.
Now the Assad regime or at least alawite minority rule is the only realistic future for Syria.
This is pretty fucked since the Assad regime is basically a mafia like organisation that use indiscriminate violence against its own people.
It is everything that the people here hate, a corrupt dynasty ruling a country with cronyism and complete disregard for human rights.
People seem to forget that the war started because the syrian army shot straight into crowds of peaceful protesters who wanted to have freedom of speech.

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LONG LIVE BASHAR AL-ASSAD
LONG LIVE SYRIA

>>32256236
To make things clear: i am not against the Assad regime, it's pretty much the only way to rule the middle east and every time you overthrow a countrys leader you end up with something way fucking worse.

>>32256105
Because it's either support Assad, a guy who kept Syria secular and allowed Chrsitians, Muslims, and people of different ethnicities to live together with peace for the most part, or have a bunch of jihadi scum install sharia law. Your choice rabbi. You probably prefer having the jihadi scum so you and your Zionist masters will have an excuse to invade and conquer it. This isn't the place for you Shekelpincherstein.

>>32256140
What, does the truth hurt faggot? Go rabbi, shoo. Take your dirty hands out of my pockets.

>>32256236
>Peaceful protestors
Kek, nevermind the fact that jihadi scum were hiding in the crowds trying to provoke the security forces.

>>32256006
>we
LMAO GET BTFO JIHADI

>>32256105
>Why is it that people on this board are so pro-russia/pro-assad?
Because they are a lot of /pol/cucks trying to spread /pol/ to all boards, while claiming not to be from /pol/ of course and at the same time use /pol/speak and opinions, spiced up with stuff directly copied from /pol/s /sg/, etc.

>>32256566
>Implying Assad is worse than sharia law.

>>32256591
>implying i said that
>implying it is about that
And here we got us the first /pol/ cuck, repeating what he had been programmed to repeat, thinking he is edgy, but in the end he is just another useful idiot.

>>32256655
Well what's your fucking solution then? Assad is the way to go.

>>32256591
>implying that the rebels support sharia law
>implying bombing civilians with cluster bombs is okay even if it were.

>>32253310
Yes. And there is a PPSH41 at he very left side of the picture too. And a few old bolt-action rifles.

>>32256591
>implying Assad didnt do a good part in radicalizing people
>implying Assad actually did something against ISIS
>implying Assad didnt ignored ISIS intentionally

>>32256675
>p-please go for my bait
>i have seen it so many times
>finally it is my turn to do the good deed
Fucking cuck.

>>32256680
>Implying "rebels" don't support Sharia law
>Implying the "rebels" weren't the ones using chemical weapons and beheading children

>>32256704
>Implying the radicalization wasn't already there and wasn't imported from other middle eastern countries
>Believing western media
Kek

>>32255840

That was kind of my point, these posters talking about how much more effective the Syrian Civil War has made the SAA, when almost all of that experience gained is worthless against a peer opponent. All that light infantry and ad-hoc mechanised forces would get torn to shreds against Israel or Turkey with their well-trained combined arms capability and advanced heavy weaponry.

>>32256018

Now that they are no threat to Israel, I honestly wonder what the future of the SAA is. In a way, being broken down as it has by this war could be liberating. If they're smart, they'll follow Russia's lead and phase out conscription in favour of a mostly professional force that won't defect (as happened early on in the war) or flee (as happened with depressing regularity until very recently). Also, suspending conscription could help bring back much of the population that has fled.

>>32256773
>implying bombing rather moderate rebels, while the real jihadis gets ignored by giraffe of Syria doesnt led to a radicalisation to the end that there are no moderates left
>implying that wasnt the plan from the start

>>32256783
>believing putting peope into jail just because they oppose Assad cant make things worse
>tortouring and killing of course doesnt do anything of course
>years of war doesnt just leave the most radical elements
Sweet summerchild.

>>32256317
>>32256330
Samefag

Also, what does this have to do with zionists? hating assad and hating israel are not mutually exclusive. You are not only an anti-democratic traitor but a weak submissive cuck and do not deserve to be an american if you support foreign autocrats.

Also
>cluster bombing civilians and hospitals
>chemical warfare against civilians
>caused over 90% of civilian casualties
>makes no attempt to start a peaceful transition of power

It's a miracle that gullible turds like you try to defend him. Back to /pol/, you complete bitch-whipped cuck. You're the kind of person that would bend over and take it in the ass willingly if someone took your lunch money because they're more "alpha"

>>32256787
>Now that they are no threat to Israel
Were they ever a threat to Israel? Serious question.

It just seems like whenever they tried something they'd only end up getting their asses kicked. Apart from Yom Kippur, I guess, but I'm not sure if a surprise attack like that would work against Israel again.

>>32256773
>implying that assad and russia give a fuck about fighting isis
>implying the FSA and moderate rebel groups haven't done more to fight isis than both

How do you even operate a computer, let alone string a sentence together with your third-grade level understanding of foreign affairs?

>>32256825
They are the same idiots who believe that Putin is the only solution for Russia and simply dont get those leaders intentionally create circumstances, where they seem to be the only option. That stuff may work on the short run, but gets horrible pretty soon, since they dont have to justify themself for anything, there is simply not any opposition left who would point it out or be an alternative.

>>32256783
>Believing anything but western media
>"L-look guys, the corrupt west is lying, come get honest news at RT and sputnik news, who never lie."
>"p-please?"
>"pls guys"

>>32254736
Except all those resources pouring into the Iraqi military are raising it up and letting them get some major experience and power.

Unless you want to go full retard and suggest the ISOF who literally have been bearing the brunt of the successful counterattacks and doing shitloads of urban fighting are somehow disqualified from being considered part of the Iraqi military readiness because they are ameriboo gear queers.

Hell a load of Iraqi veterans are saving Assad's ass in Aleppo so you really can't even argue that the Syrians are more experienced when they asked for and recieved Iraqi and Iranian military and militia aid.

People need to stop trying to shittalk any military the USA helped propped up because news flash, sometimes rarely it works.

>>32256825
>Calls me /pol/ user
>Says cuck 2649273928228 times

>>32256947
>cuck can only be used by /pol/ users
>cuck doesn't actually describe 90% of the flabby cowards that use /pol/

wew lad

>>32256971
This

As if /pol/ is anything but the echo chamber of the most dominant shill squad currently present there.

Any news on Palmyra?

>>32256825
Shouldnt use hospitals s command center if you don't want them to get bombed. Used chemical weapons? No evidence to support that claim. Besides that it'd be pointless to do so. Responsible for 90% of civilian casualties? Yes, according to some vegetable merchant from London that counts rebel fighters as civilians and is incredibly biased towards the rebels.

Transition of power? During war, towards a rebellion that relies on literally al quaeda and groups with similar ideology as backbone? Great idea.

Go take your doublethink and fuck yourself. All the Arabian shitholes require dictators to prevent the ethnically diverse populations from.stabbing each other to death.

>>32257327
>according to some vegetable from /pol/...

>>32257367
Using the SOHR as source is about as reliable as quoting RT to proof Russian airstrikes never hit civvies.

>>32257396
The problem with guys like you simply is, that you talk more shit in one post, then 3 guys can correct in one hour. It aint just that, you also just dont care that you are wrong and how many times, it simply doesnt matter for you and then you just continue to spurt out more of the same type as it wasnt wrong or you should rethink how you got to the point where you so easily told wrong stuff and defend it so vicious. You are just another useful idiot, go back to your safe space /pol/ where you can circlejerk with the other idiots, how you are the only one seeing it.

>>32257327
So every hospital bombed was a command center?
So everybody in hospitals deserved to be bombed?
So this doesnt radicalise people?
....

/k/ is full of terrorist supporters and the old users of this board, the gun owners and enthusiasts tolerate it because they hate Russia because somehow, Russia is seen as a threat to their freedom of owning an AK that i love and clean and oil and go to shoot at least 2 times a week because it somehow made me more manly when i couldnt get a gf starting college.

I dont care about Russians anymore, they arent the ones coming for my guns. As a matter of fact, they are the ones that want to sell me more guns.

All that said, im really glad that the kikenbergs and terrorists itt have high blood pressure.
If i could, i would kill the ones you root for in Syria myself. I would be doing Gods work, thus angering you.
But i dont need to. Russians out of all the people in the world helped make that happen and got my respect for it, even if my respect to them doesn't matter.
/k/ REEEKS of sand, sweat, bagels, shit, carpets, islam and jews.
All because they think they can actually change a gun owners mind into supporting a death of a country, because it would serve to their own interests in that sandy dry part of the world where hell begins and they reside.

>>32257630
>>according to some vegetable from /pol/...

>>32257501
If you don't want to discuss the topic don't post about it

>>32257560

No, but a fair amount was/is used for purposes that make them legitimate military targets. Its a full blown civil war, nobody said its pretty.

>>32257747
The topic was about retards that cant stop talking about their predigested /pol/ propaganda. So
>If you don't want to discuss the topic don't post about it

>>32257767
Is that the reason why people like you always laugh about hospitals getting bombed and scream how they should kill them all? Because this is the average response you get here when you have a even little critical view on the bombings of the hospitals.

>>32257776
Maybe look into the OP, this thread wasn't really supposed to be about pol, was it?

If you want to convince people that someone is wrong calling your opponents points propaganda rarely works.

>>32257810
Of course he doesnt critizes that! That would be against his hidden true agenda, only the ones revealing it or dont clap to the /pol/ approved propganda and mantras are supposed to be attacked, you little fool.

>>32257810
People generally don't laugh about hospitals and bakery's getting bombed, they laugh about western news calling Assad out for it so often that apparently every second building they hit seems to be one.

>>32257819
Maybe look into this thread and how this wasnt supposed to be just another bridge head for /pol/ crap.

>If you want to convince people that someone is wrong calling your opponents points propaganda rarely works.
You are either rather dumb or simply one of them, or you would know that it isnt about discussing anything for them, it is about having a platform for promoting their own garbage, circlejerking over it and attack everyone thinking otherwise. And after they have been rude, try to promote the same hoax for the 10th time, some "logical" person magically pops up and declares that we should it do exaclty like they want. What a great coincident.

>>32257858
>People generally don't laugh about hospitals and bakery's getting bombed
>hospital and bakery's
Thats your problem /pol/, the ones actually talking about it the most is simply you. Same crap as
>muh 6 millions
Hardly anyone talks about that, but you cant stop babbling how it is always said.

>>32257892
people that seek sensible discussion will more often than not find someone to have it with in /sg/. Like the rest of /pol/ most of the posters will spout memes, bait and whatever fits their agenda, that's just the nature of the board. The autism wall is lower, but here or on the syrian civil war subreddit its similar as in that the regulars have a different viewpoint.

>>32255999
EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>32257929
it wasn't me that brought that up, just trying to explain why it became a meme

>>32251740
>>32254429
New video from the same location, this time with some bodies.

https://twitter.com/Bani_Omaia/status/806973281827979264

>>32258023
It became a meme, because /pol/ doesnt like it, no real other reason. They meme everything they dont like, because it is way easier to joke around something than actually look into unwanted stuff.

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>>32258084
that's part of the reason. False reporting or incidents like this played a significant role too. The odd hospital getting bombed now and then wouldn't be significant enough. When you hear about it multiple times a week in the news however...

>>32258093
>>32258109
no need to delete, everyone understood what you meant

>>32258023
So why didnt Assad hardly attacking ISIS didnt become a meme? Why didnt Russia not doing much again ISIS didnt become a meme?

>>32258109
>When you hear about it multiple times a week in the news however...
I dont where you get your news or where you roam, but >>32257929

>>32258148
you don't crawl through as many available articles as the population of /sg/, that's why.

>>32258121
because /sg/ is biased towards the government and the counterpoint of first dealing with the rebels that threaten critical infrastructure and population centers before trying to take back what is mostly desert in the east isn't that bad.

>>32258170
Or they bring together every article which promotes that image only for them, since no one else just looks for that or would confronted with it on a normal news site visit.

>>32244823
>country with civil war: I'm growing stronger

>>32258208
So the meme is enforced through the bias of /sg/ and /pol/, which is what i was stating and not through the general nature of it.

>>32258212
isn't that pretty much the same thing? Of course they do. They search for news from all kinds of sources and create memes around patterns they find and dislike. Doesn't really happen with RT and almasdar like stuff that fits their narrative of course.

>>32258250
Keep in mind; those are the same guys, who tried to convince everyone that sanctions make Russia stronger.

>>32258271
It isnt. It is like saying there is crime everywhere and then only go to areas with high criminal activity. The hospital and bakery meme only works, when you get people searching and handing you those articles.

>>32258295
fuck off shill, you aren't whipping up any support for regime change here

would the JIDF please fuck off to /pol/ where they belong?

>>32258262
of course the meme has to fit the narrative of a large part of the userbase, how would it work otherwise? You generally don't repost stuff you dislike. The point is that there's a core with some truth to it it formed around. So "syrian government rarely attacking isis" doesn't only not become a meme because its disliked by the group but also because it's easy for them to argue against it and justify it.

>>32258325
>it's easy for them to argue against it and justify it.
Circlejerking aint making it better. Also that doesnt contradict anything i said. Thanks for trying to obviously force your garbage in there.

>>32258295
not really. The hospital and bakery meme works because the reason it formed in the group in the first place is still around. How its seen by outsiderds doesn't really matter.

Of course that also means that taking the meme outside of the group doesn't work.

>>32258368
you started it, not me. Also categorizing any arguments you dislike as circlejerking doesn't really work that well

>>32258273

Is the low oil price a form of sanctioning russia?

Despite that and the original sanctions they still save Assad despite the wishes of Israel, USA, EU, Saudi Arabia and others, who are responsible for lowering the oil price.
Sanctions making russia stronker meme originated when russians had to make their own cheese.

Cant compare russians making their own cheese and low oil prices wrecking the ruble to a civil war.

>>32258372
I said the meme exist because of /pol/ and /sg/, where did you said anything contradicting it? Why are you even replying?

>>32258383
>yeah, yeah you are somewhat right, i am just saying this or it would be too obvious i am wrong
>also to add, they are right with X
How convenient.

Im literally shaking right now
What is JIDF doing here?
What do they want to accomplish?
They are literally same if not even worse than the other /pol/tards

>>32258420
>Is the low oil price a form of sanctioning russia?
>Quick! Must open side topic!
>Russian shills made it! I copy it!
And this is why everyone thinks /pol/tards are just mindless drones.

>>32258455
nah, this started with someone saying they were laughing about hospitals getting bombed and me disagreeing. if that's not your point make it clear when you jump into the reply chain

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>>32258475
wrong picture

>>32258455
you asked why it didn't became a meme, i answered.

You could try to explain what reason the SAA has to focus on ISIS with the rebels knocking at their frontdoor if you disagree with me on that point too.

>>32258501
What? You seriously want to tell me they arent joking around every time a hospital gets attacked? No matter what happened? Are we both visiting the same 4chan?

>>32258530
No, you didnt answered, you saw what i wrote and didnt like it and tried to nitpick on something, because that is what you tards are always doing.

>>32258522
JIDF belongs on /pol/

>>32258550
i certainly don't.many /sg/ denizes do. My point is that they don't joke about the fact of hospitals getting bombed in itself but about that half the buildings in the rebels territorys seem to be hospitals/bakerys juding by the amount of news about them getting bombed they dig up. That and that it sometimes turned out that the hospital was used as commad point/munition storage.

Is /pol/ becoming the fastest strawmen on this board?

Generally, anyone who has an different opinion can be called to /pol/.

>>32258568
fucking this
the second you write something not poltard approved in this thread you always will get a form of resistance. first it is always the grunts who insults and just parrot the poltard propaganda, if that doesnt work, someone seemingly more intelligent pops up, ignoring what an idiot the poltard was and only going against the one doing something against it

>>32258568
>>32258121
>>32258170

Looks like question and answer to me.

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>>32256825
>>cluster bombing civilians and hospitals
picrelated
>>chemical warfare against civilians
Disproven multiple times
>>caused over 90% of civilian casualties
according to SOHR which uses twitter as a source
and we all know that twitter is the supreme truth
>>makes no attempt to start a peaceful transition of power
have you seen an ayyrab nation do that?

>>32258611
Sound more like buttblasted anti-Assad getting mad over Assad's victories to me.

>>32258619

so "last hospital" is apparently a franchise that litters aleppo like fast food joints?

>>32258619
cant keep a good hospital down

>>32258644
one might think that Aleppo has 99% of the worlds hospitals

>>32258603
>i certainly don't.many /sg/ denizes do.
Then the rest of what you just said is useless and only trying to whitewash shity behaviour.

>>32258613
Because the answer was obvious, it was biased meme. There was no sperging out from you needed there.

>>32244823
Yes, Syria so so strong despite being a crushed fragmented country that by projections will take around 30 years to return to pre war levels of development. Yes Assad's Syria is super "strong".

>>32258641
>you butthurt
/pol/-tier

>>32258667
you forgot the part about no reasonable justification of why they should focus on IS again.

>>32247329
>The Syrian army is now one of the most capable fighting forces in the region.

Is this some kind of joke? Sutble troll? Israel would -annihilate- them. They can't even retaliate against Israeli airstrikes. The most capable govt units in Syria aren't even part of the army most of the time. You have Hezbollah, Iranians, then you have the Syrian warlord led paramilitaries like the Desert Hawks and The Tiger Forces.

>>32258109
>enemy combatants are being taken here for medical aid so they can come back and fight another day
>2016
>not finishing the job

oh boo hoo, you were prepared for the worst or you took up arms as a blind man, expect no mercy.

>>32258667
it's not, your memeology is weak and thus should be corrected.

>>32258686
One wanted democratic votes and were asking for talks, the other wanted to take over the country to install a borderbreaking islamic state.

>>32258679
About what? Someone is butthurt.
>>32258696
How would Israel annihilate them?

Israel lacks the troops, and air forces cannot win a war, as proven by the failure of the Allied bombing attempts.

>>32258611
It is almost like they cant allow you state something like this, they must at least infuse a little poltard mumble as compensation into the thread.

>>32258700
the point about that largely reported strike on a DWB hospital is not just that fighters used to be treated there. The outcry in western media was large, then it turned out that DWB just sent some supplies there and didn't actually run the thing. And that it wasn't marked. And that jihadis used to gather there in their mad max vehicles. No reporting on that of course.

>>32244713

AFAIK they're still getting their asses kicked.

Russia can bomb all day long, but nothing will change unless the SAA can get a better doctrine going.

>>32258725
>About what? Someone is butthurt.
Yeah, obviously they are butthurt someone disturbed their little pol safe space in thread form.

>>32258725
Israel would play defensive offense and just uppercut horrible Syrian attempts at offensives. I guess it all depends on the scenario though.

>>32258715
>>32258729
So this is the problem? Because how dare Assad fights the rebels instead of ISIS?

>>32258749
We are on /k/, brah.

>>32258752
Syria has no reason to attack Israel now.

>>32258608
/pol/ became what they claim they hate the most, as the war in Syria and even in Ukraine went on

they became the jew (their strawman for everything wrong in the world) after calling in the airstrikes (one of which was confirmed with a video of the airstrike, the other one was just a tweet from the russian reporter thanking them for locating) and they realized they became the jew when they memed trump into presidency

Now, how does the jew arm himself?
How does Israel?
From America, land of the free where... >gets shot
Where on 4chan can one discuss firearms and weapons and show proof of ownership of such?
/k/ ofcourse. They want to spread here, and are spreading as we speak.
The serb /pol/tard mandic was nesting here and preparing the turf for his bros.
Remember how he with his name above his post influenced most of the currents of the middle east threads?
He never hid himself from his beliefs and used /pol/ memes and actual footage and articles to disprove many who didnt like the fact someone wasnt objective (which /k/ never is) about the war in which Russia got involved.
/k/ has the biggest hateboner for Russia, to such levels that its getting pretty autistic if you look at it 'objectively'
Then the arabs and literal terrorist enablers which just like the JIDF, just like the butchered CTR, could not divert the currents in /pol/, then they started swarming here where its relatively safe for them (just like it was for Ukrainians) because there arent any flags.
By them seeing /k/ as a SIMILAR place to go and shill, they played the worse move for ordinary /k/ users.
And now the real /pol/tards are coming and taking over. They cant be contained anymore, they will become the board with the most traffic and soon every /pol/tards will use the rest of 4chan as an extension of /pol/. And dont forget the fresh blood that seeps into /pol/ from retarddit searching for their 'red pill'
/k/ has changed

/k/ has been infringed

>>32258715
yeah, some of them wanted that. Then they allied with literally al quaeda and friends, captured territory and started waging a war on the syrian government. ISIS controls a lot of desert and a few towns and oilfields, the rebels were close to capture syrias population centers. They were the larger threat to the syrian government, simply based on territory they threatened. So they became priority targets.

When ISIS threatened aleppo they enjoyed the same amount of attention.

>>32258779
Or that /k/ actually has similar opinions to /pol/, and sides with the winner, being Assad.

But of course, this means muh /pol/ invasion.

>>32258755
>>32258783
Assad wanted to make the rebels worse or they would have become a viable alternative for him, thats why he didnt do shit against ISIS, when the only choice is him or ISIS the decission is easy.

>>32258797
No, /k/ thinks Assad is just another shitty opinion, same a ISIS or former moderate rebels.

>>32258799
He actually did a lot shit against ISIS by fighting the rebels, because the rebels were openly co-operating with ISIS.

And in Syria, the rebels hold more territories than ISIS.

>>32258797
thats what /pol/ hoped for but now jewingly says to jew /k/ on their side

>>32258806
Thats what JIDF and terrorists think
/k/ is neither of those

>>32258806
No, /k/ does not think that way, there has been support for Assad since the beginning, considering how the FSA is actually shit.

The kurds get the most support back then, but now they don't get shit because their fighting against ISIS hasn't actually been able to change the war.

>>32258799
Usually people with your standpoint don't fail to bring up the released prisoners from Saidnaya. Also they tend to forget that it was the UN and the arab league that asked for the release of those "political prisoners". Maybe he did it in an attempt to appease them, maybe he willingly didn't stop them while they made a huge error, hard to judge. Anyways, ISIS didn't make the rebels worse, they did that all by themself by allying with al nusra and groups with similar ideology. They stopped being a reasonable alternative at that point.

And even if they were a viable alternative, it wouldn't change anything about which targets get priority. The syrian governmen wants to stay in power, so they focus their limited ressources on their most viable assets, the population centers.

The autism in this thread this time around is a little painful. Can we not waste posts with board rivalry fanboy nonsense.

>>32258822
The rebels fought ISIS, when Assad didnt do shit against ISIS, they stopped fighting each other, when the rebels were the only ones getting it from all sides they started somewhat coperate with them.

>>32258829
So /k/ was always anti-assad since the beginning?

Because that's not the truth.

>>32258047
you know a company traditionally has 120 soldiers right

>>32258696
Why would they retaliate against Israel in their current state? That's strategically retarded.

>>32258853
Oh bullshit, the rebels that fought ISIS start to defect to Assad's side.

The vast majority are foreign jihadists, the same as ISIS.

>>32258846
It was asked to release policital prisoners, not everybody, but that is something you like to forget to state, also how the torture and killing of political prisoners let to a radicalisation. And what the syrian government want doesnt mean shit, you can exuse everything with such a crappy arguemnet even north korea.

>>32256893
>Implying the only alternative to Western media is Ivan news network

>>32258863
Hence them being weak as fuck and not "the most capable fighting force in the middle east". They can't even secure their sovereignty or borders.

And I'm not talking like strike Israel as retaliation, I'm talking trying to hit the planes blowing your shit up within your own borders. But Syrian air defense is obviously a joke and the SyAAF is in utter shambles compared tk pre war, its being kept alive by Russia handing down some SU-24s here n there.

>>32258889
What is your alternative?

>>32258901
No, they are not weak as fuck, they just cannot be in the offense right now.

If current Israel attacks Syria, it would be the israeli who is getting their ass kicked.

>>32258737
lel

but honestly why would people care about sand monkey killing sand monkeys?

>>32258888
Because these political prisoners are dangerous to the regime?

Not to mention they are weak-willed and would openly cooperate with jihadists later?

>also how the torture and killing of political prisoners let to a radicalisation.
Yes, if they radicalize into jihadists, it's not Assad's problem, it's their problem.

>>32258901
Well no shit, they're busy as fuck fighting their civil war. And even if they shoot down an Israeli jet, all Israel has to do is yell for Murica's help because Israel is "so oppressed because muh bad neighbors :'-(" and the Syrian government will be gone.

>>32258888
really? Nabil Elaraby was quite gloating back then and didn't utter a single word of complaint back then. They got what they asked for. Also the rebels were shit to begin with if a few dozen snake tongued preachers are all it takes to lead them into the hands of al quaeda. Though luck.

It's not about what the syrian government wants. They can't realistically fight ISIS and ignore the rebels taking damascus, aleppo and steamrolling over the homs plains. More than 14 million people still live in government controlled areas, preventing the war from getting to the bulk of syrias population and preventing the country from becoming a failed state is the sensible thing to do.

>>32258905
You can't just find one news source you idiot. You have to read multiple articles from many sides and then compare them and then it'll be up to you to make sense of it. You also have to be nuanced and there will be times where both sides have a point.

>>32258933
>If current Israel attacks Syria, it would be the israeli who is getting their ass kicked.
Israel regularly interdicts targets within Syria.
Syrian jets never intercept them, and ground-based AA retaliation is rare and uniformly ineffective. Just a few days ago, an airstrike was carried out.

>>32258960
Worth noting that this isn't the result of the civil war; Syria was never able to effectively maintain its airspace against Israeli incursions since the 80s.
The last time Syrian air defense capability proved an issue, they successfully SEADed it.

>>32258995
I already read fucking both sides, nigger.

There are fucking jihadist twitters posted on here, I even read that.

And you know the truth after all I read? Assad is winning and the people support him over both the rebels and jihadists.

>>32258933
On what planet dude? Not that Israel could successfully occupy Syria, but they could neuter the shit out of the SAA. What, the SyAAF is gonna drop barrel bombs on Israelis? Yeah we'll see how long those helos are allowed to even be in the air for. Its too complicated now cause Russia is involved, but hypothetically if they weren't Israel could decapitate the SyAAF and probably SAA command structure in a week of all out war.

>>32258859
/k/ is for america and for showing off US supremacy, especially showing off how better US is compared to Russia
Now, who started the war in syria is a question you must search answers for yourself.
Many on /pol/ did, many smart people did too, because a smart person isnt a grunt that does as he is told.
So the best conclusion is that the west started the war, with arming a riot, which was hijacked by the jihadists, which killed the first protest leaders (which never even thought about going to war against their own country) and there you have the beloved FSA, showered with money, showered with islamic filth from europe, showered with weapons.
Arabs have no idea how to fight a guerrilla war so the scrambled wrecked SAA started sending tanks in tight streets, resulting in them starting to bomb the ATGM nests and people die when there is a war in an urban area where one side is the guerrilla, the other one is a tank regiment and an airforce.
There you have a carnage in which a biased media can paint the picture as they see fit.
This was before Ukraine.
Now ask yourself who is an average dic/k/head going to listen to when there is a war going on?
He is going to listen to his own biased media because somehow he sees russians in all of that as the enemy.
Not every /k/ommando thought like that, but the majority did, it was in US interests to overthrow Assad, for fucks sake so ofcourse the /k/ narrative is anti Assad.

/pol/ on the other hand was a safe heaven for putinbots, just like terrorist shills found /k/ a safe-heaven when they got shlonged by the very well organised /sg/ that, although mostly is just shitposting, they are dedicated as fuck, no matter what you think of them.

What /pol/'s first objective and probably the last when conquering /k/ is to make the most pro US, most anti russian sediment in this board admit to themselves that US lost in Syria, because of Russia.
Which makes many dic/k/heads aggravated, rustled and 'cucked' as they say it.

>>32258959
You protest against Assad, peacefully. There are radicals who doesnt do that. You get arrested the same, you get tortured the same, you get killed the same. Now tell us again how this doesnt have anything to do with the syrian goverment and how this is not caused by them.

>>32259025
>>32259048
As you know, you can't win a war with just air strikes.

The worse thing Israeli can do is bombing the SAA and the syrians do not like to start shit because they know Israeli will summon the US if they start attacking Israeli territory in retaliation.

>>32259053
Well, /k/ proves you wrong because /k/ is pro-America, not pro-Obama.

It's actually wiser for America to stay the fuck off the Middle east.

>>32259071
Why the fuck would Israel get involved there and let literal terrorists take over the country while they fight the only legitimate ruling power in Syria?
Besides, they would have to attack what russians are stationed there too

>>32259029
Yeah, that's why I am in favor of Assad.

>>32258962
>More than 14 million people still live in government controlled areas, preventing the war from getting to the bulk of syrias population and preventing the country from becoming a failed state is the sensible thing to do.
If the syrian goverment truely had wanted this, then Assad had to go, but it isnt about what is best for the people it is straight clawing of Assad and his people to stay in power, because otherwise they could be made responsible for the horrors they have done. Same shit with North Korea, you could exuse their behaviour, with telling how they dont want to become an even bigger failed state or war ground.

>>32259059
Because you don't have to ally with jihadists to fight against the government.

The moment you do, you deserve getting your ass beaten.

>>32259129
The moment government starts mutilating kids dicks it needs to go.

>>32259123
>If the syrian goverment truely had wanted this, then Assad had to go
Astroturfing is against the rules, State Dept. shill

>>32259097
Because someone says Israel would annihilate Syria?

The israeli are actually fucking tiny, and they would be in a lot of shit if russian-trained syrians, iraqi and egyptians do another war against them.

>>32259129
But a goverment causing people to go jihadist can stay? The moment they manage to cause this they deserve to get their ass beaten.

>>32259095
Nobody gives a shit what is wiser. If you havent noticed, nobody who runs America gives a shit about who thinks what about a phony war in the sand dunes, all they need to do is distract you with random bullshit and reheat the old pile of dog shit you refused to eat the first time, and we'd be off to war against the evil assad regime helping the same goatfuckers responsible for 9/11.
That right there is America you are talking about, not some shoulda woulda coulda bullshit debate on this shithole of a website.
That America is NOT good and if that America can pull that kind of shit on its own people who lose attention with a miley cyrus deflated ass shaking, can you SERIOUSLY say that those people are free?
And now look at the middle east, our only ally there, the only somewhat democratic country there is trying to do what America failed, to kill a regime that wants Cyrillic on their gasline, and by killing that regime they want to use same people responsible for 9/11 and now many more attacks in Europe.
Thats crudely what /pol/tards are onto but dont know how to express themselves

>>32259153
You forgot your "t." before the shill.

>>32259184
No, Assad and his government does not want the rebels to go jihadists.

>>32259123
assad goes and gets replaced by whom exactly? We saw how well that worked out in egypt, didn't we?

>>32259164
Be serious, Israelis could kick all their asses combined. They have done it before you know. The Russian trained Arab regimes never succeeded in accomplishing anything against Israelis.

Hell, the only people that ever did were the Saudis with their oil embargo. They saved the Egyptians and the Syrians.

>>32259164
I'm pretty sure they've tried that multiple times already.

>>32259188
Actually, I give a shit on what's wiser.

Next question.

>>32259209
Again, what they want doesnt matter, what they caused on the other hand. Syria had a chance, Assad didnt go when it was needed, he didnt fought ISIS when it was needed (it actually could have redeemed himself a bit by doing this), he was just busy with what was in the beginning an alternative to him.

>>32259212
Yeah, Mubarak steeping down is why Egypt is a mess compared to Syria.

>>32259212
Gets replaced by someone he can vouch for, after the midget from St. Petersburg crafts a puppet and show off to Assad, recommending him, and giving Assad a set of keys for an eye doctors building and a large apartment for him and his wife along with an apartment for each of his kids anywhere he wants them, or anywhere they want.

>>32259212
Now compare Egypt with Syria, dont know about you, but years of civil war in Syria looks worse then what happened in Egypt.

>>32259223
No, I do not know, Israeli are only successful in defensive wars.

But in offensive wars? With their defense forces? They would get ambushed and go back crying to the US.

>>32259184
>a goverment causing people to go jihadist
>assad has to go because all the jihadists we fund are actually his fault
No actual interested /sg/ person actually says things like this. This is the standard shill narrative, that Saudis, State, Qatar etc have been pushing. I have no choice left but to assume you are a paid astroturfer in violation of global rule 11.

>>32259230
you dont get to call the shots

>>32259239
No, what they want is what matter.

And Assad wants to stay, and the people now want him to stay.

I love the faggots who say Assad has to go. No, as proven by himself and this war, he actually does not.

>>32259274
No, we are the american people.

We get to call the shot.

>>32259244
>>32259253
Egypt didn't experience a civil war to begin with. What i meant that the first democratically elected president was some muslim brotherhood nutjob because the sunni peasants form a voting block. Nobody really cared about him getting canned by the military after they found out what democracy in these countries looks like. You can't just go straight for democracy when large parts of your population are illiterate peasants divided into ethnic groups that jump at each others throat the second you look away.

>>32259254
Israelis never fought a defensive war. Or do you think that Suez is Israels first defensive line? Syrian army is gone and Egyptian army is more interested in running its economic empire on backs of its conscripts, wasting what little money the state has and generally doing stupid Arab dictator shit that starts civil wars.

>>32259259
>No actual interested /sg/ person actually says things like this.
You might confuse this with /pol/'s /sg/, where the narritive is pushed that Assad is a saviour and did nothing wrong.

>>32259254
>Israeli are only successful in defensive wars.
That's a fairly bizarre division.
Not that it's on point anyway; the 1956 Suez Crisis went swimmingly, 1967 was a preemptive attack launched by the Israelis, and the 1982 invasion of Lebanon to oust the PLO was also wholly successful.

>>32259279
t. North Korea

>the JIDF cant even shill properly on the most bluepilled board on the entire fucking internet
what is this world coming to

Syria Army Been doing America and Europe Job by killing isis.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWkXGwyAbHI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtrdWj0coEc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VlB9iXDlrrw

>>32259301
Surprisingly that nutjub managed to kill less people than his replacement and was more opened on liberals, and on media. Also didn't throw several billions down the drain. If you look beyond rhetoric you would see that the country where dictator packed up his shit and left is best preforming, ie Tunis. While in countries where dictators and there supporters cling on are worse off, ie Syria, Yemen,Libya, Egypt.

You do know that of two secular dictators we have in ME, Assad managed to burn down his country and Sisi is on the path to do the same.

>>32244713
same story tho man
>korean was usa is beating gook ass then all of a sudden chinese and russian come in usa btfo
>veitnam france is beaten up, usa commes in cos oh no muh capitalism, beats gook ass. All of a sudden russia USA btfo
>somalia oh no mah us aid need to go to the people all of a sudden usa BTFO ?????
>then afghanisthan russia comes in oh no muh capitalism so saudi's and usa fund them russia BTFO
>middle east/syria oh no muh oil oh no muh chosen race of people. USA cobber stupms all haji's then russsia comes in USA backed rebels BTFO

moral of the story they are good until some powers come in

>>32259381
>its JIDF
>its CTR
>its reddit
>its ....
The poltard got lost and wants to be brought back to his containment board.

>>32259442
using
>korean
>vietnam
>afghanisthan
as example

>moral of the story they are good until some powers come in
Moral of the story is, when the US doesnt finish their job or is let to do, it has shity consequences for the country it wants to help.

>>32259528
At least i have a containment board
At least i have a nation that has its own country
You have neither
A nation, a group, a poisonous cloud that goes around the world scamming people as the infect other counties and bitch and moan when they get dealt with.
I really wish the holocaust was real, i really do
Not even shitposting

>>32259561
just like in afghanistan and the rest of middle east sending in saudi arabia and it's militant muslim fighters?

>>32259608
>>32259585
You two, hug each other. Everything is going to okay.

The syrian soldiers in this footage are literally no better equipped than militiamen, why are people claiming the syrian army has been "honed" or "battle hardened?" Russia intervened because these poor guys are no better than the rebels.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SgGb0RzBWdw

>>32259334
Been reading /k/'s /sg/ far longer than /pol/'s /sg/. Literally nobody except Sunni supremacists actually think Assad is worse than the other alternative.
Language like
>Assad is to blame for anti-Assad jihadists (from >>32259184)
or
>if Syria wanted to not be a failed state, Assad had to go (from >>32259123)
can only come from a shill. This is not the language of a geopolitics-interested /sg/ reader. This is the language of Saudi-allied war hawks like Victoria Nuland and Marie Harf. It's too twisted and too transparently machiavellian(really? making veiled threats to turn a state into a failed state!?) to be someone's actual opinion.

I give you a 100% chance that the person I quoted is working for one of the agencies(or private contractors thereof), seeking to implant and further their prescribed narrative. Exactly zero non-Astroturfers would use language like that.

It's also pretty funny how /k/ /sg/ threads were really uniformly anti-jihadist until recently. As recent as the big anti-Assad propaganda wave in the MSM regarding "humanitarian crisis" in Aleppo. Do you think we are too blind and forgetful to see when shilling is up?

>>32259643
shut up

>>32259670
HUG EACH OTHER ALREADY!

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>>32258779
Don't forget your complimentary image.

>>32259662
>Been reading /k/'s /sg/ far longer than /pol/'s /sg/.
>Been reading /k/'s /sg/
>/k/'s /sg/
So how new are you?

>>32259662
What is up, do you need to ask a superior or other shills for an answer to >>32259716, my shilling friend? You dont even get what is wrong, do you?

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>>32253637

>(((FSA)))

>>32244713
So this is the current Mideast thread?

>>32260142
I don't even know. Doesn't look like the usual OPs made this thread. Instead this seems to be made in direct response to the collapse of the Aleppo rebel pocket, which is all over the MSM.

I'm wondering myself what the fuck is going on at Palmyra, but it doesn't seem like anyway except a couple curious anons give a shit. Instead all I got is the usual shitting fest about Arabs being shitty soldiers and the same old /pol/itical shitposting.

You're better off waiting until this thread hits the bump limit and someone starts a new one. This one's a lost cause.

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>>32259662
Here, just for you, so we can relive this glorious moment.

>>32260142
>>32260212

There already is one
>>32255629

>>32260273
whoopty do, it used to be called /meg/

Your desperation is showing, astroturfer

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>>32260553
Took you over an hour to find the error, my little /pol/tard. Talking about desperation.
>it used to be called /meg/
Its still the case, dumbwit. /sg/s are banned unless mods aint doing their job and one silps through, but of course someone who has been reading /k/'s /sg/ for soooooo long already knows this.

>>32260142
No, this was supposed to be a thread about the military capabilities of the Syrian military, but as you can see, it's far from that now.

>>32259288
Hahahahaahahahaha
>Armchair general thinks he has any day in foreign affairs

>>32259223
>Russian trained
Nevermind the fact that ME armies are near impossible to train(Look at the ANA and Iraqi military). Also nevermind the fact that they got downgraded export model Soviet equipment. While Syria had downgraded Migs that weren't even meant for air superiority, the Israelis had bad ass Murican F-15s with fancy radar and even a blowjob machine for the Israeli pilots.