"Californians"Getting rid of bullet button

>>32234678
not until it's registered

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>>32234678
>He complied

California state police are saying "no" but the law doesn't say that you can't.

>>32234678
It's not worth it, OP.

Don't compromise your freedom and rights for a tiny bit of convenience.

>>32234678
>>32234816
I wonder what the actual registry rate is in CA. As big as the state is, it's gotta be worse than compliance with NY's SAFE Act.

>>32234678
DO NOT COMPLY
God fucking damnit this is why our state is so fucking cucked
The less the government knows about our personal lives and possessions the better

>>32234678
I really don't get this shit!
How is this going to prevent a mass shooter/criminal from just fucking removing it?

DO NOT COMPLY

legally uncucking your gun now means you can't legally pass it down to your kids, and it can be confiscated whenever the democrats will it

>>32234986
People who make gun laws cannot know anything about guns because if they did they wouldn't bother trying to pass gun laws since they understand it's something a fucking high school dropout could make with an instructional video and a scrapyard.

>>32234678
You can buy a small magnetic pin that you can stick in there.
http://www.ar-magmagnet.com/mag-magnet

>>32234678
>actually complying

>>32234870
So many woods.
So much desert.
So many blind alleys.

So many places to hide....

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>>32234705

>not posting superior Gus version.

>>32234870

gonna be high desu

>>32234678
>registering
>literally any moment of any point in the past, present, or future

What of fuck, comrade?

>>32234678
Once it's registered yes you can remove the bullet button and convert it to a standard mag release. However do be aware of the restrictions you'll face with it:

-Can't sell it to anyone before de-registering it (probably take 6-8 weeks) and making it featureless
-Can't pass on to your kids.
-Can't ship it anywhere without going through an FFL that can deal in Machineguns/Registered AWs/Destructive devices
-Can't stop anywhere between your home and place where you're going to shoot. No stopping for food or movie after a range trip.
-Must carry registration paperwork with you.
-Cannot loan your weapon to anyone for any reason.

Go featureless man, it's not worth the hassle.

>>32237353
b-but muh pistol grip and standard magazine release.

The fuck is a bullet button?

>>32237409
Something designed to placate fascists which was then later banned by fascists.

>>32237375
You can have a standard mag release featureless amigo, can't help you on the pistol grip though. :( Maybe a Kydex Wrap? Or you can install the new bullet button that makes you pop the action open to drop the mag. That's another option as well.

>>32237409
Modified mag release meant to work around the last round of semi-auto rifle restrictions. Technically ARs were banned back in 2000, but due to the wording of the law, mfgers found that by having the mag release "recessed" so you had to insert a tool (bullet) to engage the release counted as a "fixed mag" and got around the issue.

Unfortunately California legislators closed the loophole this year back in July, so now it's either go featureless, register it as an assault weapon, or put the new bullet button that makes you pop open the action to drop the mag.

>>32237409
A simple mechanical device that makes a Calicucked mag release only slightly harder to operate instead of fucking nigh impossible. A response to gun laws made by illiterates that don't actually know how guns work.

>>32237479
>>32237474
>>32237480
At some point it's got to be easier to just start shooting the people who are infringing on the Constitution.

Related to this thread and since I live in california....
Is anyone familiar with the new product ARmagLock?
>Essentially a device which If I put this on my rifle, forces me to take out the rear takedown pin and break open the gun in order to reload a magazine
If I put this on my rifle, can I avoid having to register my ar15?
If I put this on my rifle, can I avoid having to make my rifle "featureless"?

>>32237409

A literal cuck device that neutered leftists and their bitch boy resident conservatives have to use just so they can exercise their God given rights.

>>32237673
You can avoid registering your AR by losing it in a tragic boating accident.

>>32237726
Right.... but seriously though

>>32237832

Seriously? Get the fuck out of your bullshit state or grow some fucking balls and fight this absolutely ridiculous law.

If you keep bending over and offering your ass to these people they'll keep going in dry.

>>32234678
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puerto_Rican_Nationalist_Party_revolts_of_the_1950s
daily reminder these guys did more than you will ever do despite getting their asses kicked in the process.
>U.S. Capitol shooting incident
There was also gunfire in the U.S. Capitol. On March 1, 1954, four Puerto Rican Nationalists: Lolita Lebrón, Rafael Cancel Miranda, Andres Figueroa Cordero, and Irving Flores Rodríguez, tried to highlight problems in Puerto Rico by attacking the House of Representatives of the United States. They fired automatic pistols from the Ladies' Gallery (a balcony for visitors) in the House of Representatives. The 240 representatives were on the floor during a debate over an immigration bill.[32] They wounded five Congressmen, one seriously, but all survived.[32] The Nationalists were tried and convicted in federal court and sentenced to imprisonment. In 1978 and 1979, President Jimmy Carter commuted their sentences to time served, and the four returned to Puerto Rico.

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>>32234986
It doesn't

>>32237673
Yes, the new ARMaglock by the bullet button folks meets the requirements of "disassembling the action" in order to drop the mag. With this setup you don't have to register or make it featureless.

Just be aware they'll probably figure out some way to ban it too in the future, we got about 16 years of the current bullet button, I'd imagine we'll get something similar.

ITT: Internet badasses
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>>32234816
>>32234902
>>32234996
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>>32237715
I bet you guys don't have drivers licenses or pay taxes right? Oh wait you do?
YOU COMPLIED
Quit acting tough to fit in kids

>>32234902
Lil wut. They already know. I bought it in the age of the internet and databases and it even had a SKU for the bullet button version.

Will a firearms trust let me pass it on to my son though?

>>32238279
A right vs a privilege.

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just go featureless.

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>>32238424

>>32234678
......ooooor you can just not comply.

It's the duty of a patriotic american to refuse to comply with an unjust law.

>>32238355
Nope. If you register it as a 'salt weapon you cannot pass it on to your kid.

>>32238424
what the fuck is that thing on the grip

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>>32238355
>>32238491
Correct, this new round of registration does not allow the trust workaround. If you want to be able to pass it along to your children, you'll first have to deregister it as an assault weapon, then make it featureless.

>>32238424
Planning to convert my ARs to use this Hera Arms stock when it gets released in a few weeks.

>>32238554
Gripwrap, or Kydex Wrap (that's the most popular brand) basically a sheet of hard polymer/kevlar that bolts to the grip and prevents your thumb from wrapping around the grip thereby taking care of the "no pistol grip" requirement.

>>32238554
its for safety. now anon cant commit crimes with it bc he cant manipulate the rifle as well as a normal one.
thats the theory anyway

>>32237906
Okay.... but seriously.

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>>32238554
It's a kydex fin grip

>>32238557
same. I keep refreshing.

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>>32238584
you poor souls, jesus christ

>>32238584
Did you go the page and click the "notify when available" button? That's how they're calculating the first round of pre-orders. You should get an email from them when they're ready to place your order according to their facebook page.

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>>32238601
seriously.

>>32238604
yeah I went ahead and signed up for the "wait list"

I doubt I'll grab one of the first run, but regardless will grab one if I can. I really want one; it looks so much better than that kydex wrap.

>>32238570
>>32238571
>>32238584
one more question, have yall thought about moving? I understand its yalls home but is it even worth it staying?

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>>32238645
Same. I'm kinda torn though, I'm planning to place it on my Sig516, but I have a magpul PRS stock on my JP and my sig716, I put a lot of money into those two stocks and grips, I'm really loathe to remove them.

Well I don't have to worry about the 716 yet, they don't have the 308 versions available quite yet.

>>32238662
It has occurred to me yes, but finding work out of state and finding a place to live isn't something that's quickly accomplished. I'm low-mid level IT, while i'm sure I could find work, I don't know if it'll pay as much as I'm making out here. Plus leaving all my friends and family behind is a tough thing to deal with.

>>32238662
Moving is a massive bitch for one thing.

The other is California pays out the fucking nose for techniggers, aka 50% of 4chan. I'd shave ~30k/y off of my salary as a firmware engineer for Intel if I wanted to move up to their Oregon location.

>>32238675
Ouch...

Man I'm sorry. Are you gonna get 3 of the cqr stocks?

>>32238662
I'm a poor college student right now and trying to finish up school.

When I'm finished I'm probably gonna move. Idk where but outta here that's for sure. I don't even 420

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Would someone be so kind as to explain a hypothetical situation? Let's pretend for a moment that

>I live in CA
>have an AR that is currently out of state
>I want to have my AR in CA
>AR has all the normal shit an AR has
>collapsable stock, bayo lugs, etc.

Could this AR simply be given a bullet button and then be delivered to me, via a friend on a road trip to see me?

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>>32238781
thanks for the replies anons, yall stay safe out there

>>32238279
I kind of feel bad for you

>>32238768
Minimum 1 for sure for the 516. I may just say fuck it and just go for the JP as well since they make an OD green version. The 716 is going to be a bit of a challenge though since they don't have a .308 version yet. I'll have to look into a grip wrap probably.

>>32238800

Until December 31st of this year (assuming a 10-round or smaller mag as well), after which you must register it as an AW unless you wanna go featureless.

Also
>bayonet lug
>CA AW criteria

laughinggavinnewsom.jpg

>>32238832
What grip is that on the 716? I'm pretty new to the AR world.

Also do you know about munkeyboi?

>>32238800
Theoretically, your friend could just bring it to you now and then you could just happen to lose it in a tragic boating accident and have no issues

>>32238800
Bullet buttons are banned. Collapsible stocks are banned. Bayonet lugs are banned. Pistol grips are banned. These things can be grandfathered in to a certain extent, but transfer becomes illegal, including borrowing, holding, or transporting.

>>32238828
>implying he is wrong

>>32238800
The bullet button version would be legal to bring into california yes. However you'd have to either get rid of or pin your mags to 10 rounds or less in order to be compliant.

Next, by the end of 2017, you'd have to either replace the bullet button with the AR maglock, or make the rifle featureless or register the weapon as an assault rifle in order to keep it in california.

Also if your friend is going to deliver it for you, I'd strongly encourage him to keep it in a locked case in the trunk so it doesn't attract attention.

>>32238863
>Bayonet lugs are banned.
False. That would be the nationwide AWB no longer in effect and Jew York's SAFE act.

>>32234678
What's a bullet button?

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>>32238863
>>32238860
>>32238843
But if the friend simply drives the hypothetical AR to me, who is to say that I haven't had it here for years? I thought there was a time that when you moved to CA you didn't have to declare long guns to the DOJ.

>>32238876
Thank you anon.

>>32238855
The grip is a UTG grip I got for free, it is pretty comfy. I honestly prefer the ERGO tactical Deluxe grips myself (the palm shelf version is on my OD JP in the middle). It's a wider grip that's super comfy for larger handed users.

Yeah Munkeyboi i've heard good things about him! I'm going to contact him for the grip wrap for the 716 most likely.

>>32238896
Also I forgot, if you plan to become a permanent resident of california you DO have to register your rifle within 60 days with the state of california and pay a 19$ fee. I'm not sure what the punishment is for not reporting it, but yeah, once you're here, you will have to register your guns with the state.

https://oag.ca.gov/sites/all/files/agweb/pdfs/firearms/forms/ab991frm.pdf?

>>32238896
Well you just posted about it on the internet, on a site in Google's botnet no less, so that's not good. If you have a Google account give up now.

>>32238901
Yeah hit up munkeyboi, real cool guy.

since your grip isn't in the "popular grip" section, you may have to inquire if he offers the wraps for your UTG grip.

If he does that's great, if not you're probably gonna have to do a custom order, and send your grip to him as well.

>>32238925
I thought there was a time a couple years ago when long guns did not have to be declared to the DOJ.

>>32238926
Anon, I don't know what you mean. I'm simply asking hypothetical questions.

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>>32238576
Do you know how many unregistered firearms are in circulation? Either through private sale, gifting, or straight up theft. One more isn't gonna end the world. Mark that shit as lost and stop being cucked by your legislators.

>>32238491
>>32238557
I thought the point of the trust was that it doesn't change ownership, but the members of the trust change.

And how can they even do this ex post facto bullshit. It's my estate I can pass it on.

>>32234678
Nobody knows... that is the beautiful thing about California laws... they are written by people who have no idea how they will work other then hurting gun owners.

Here in NY the law is written in such a way that it makes the AR Maglock very much grey area. It's basically a tyrannical arbitrary law which is subject to the interpretation of the state.

Personally I'd love to not comply, it's just that I'd feel stupid having a gun that I can never, ever shoot.

>>32234870
I read at article that estimated it to be under 10%.. so basically no one except people who want to possibly get away with removing things like OP.

>>32238979
this must be how those trans bathroom people feel.

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>>32239009
LOL

>>32238896

Even ARs with Bullet Buttons will be AWs come January 1st, 2017. Unregistered AW = jail time for you no matter what at that point. It's all ex post facto retroactive shit in CA because SF and LA (and their puppets that run Sacramento) don't give a shit about rights or Constitutions or anything oppressively triggering like that.

tl;dr: Welcome to the People's Republic of Californistan. Papers please. No papers? NO EXCUSES! TO THE GULAG WITH YOU!

>>32238279
I don't and I don't. Where's your God now, cucks?

>>32238953
Hrm, if it was, I don't see any info on the cal doj website about there being a grace period. https://oag.ca.gov/firearms/ab991

That's where I pulled the form from.

>>32238944
Alrighty I'll see what needs to be done.

>>32238960
No idea, the wording of the recently passed legislation implies that unless the rifle was already registered as an AW prior to Jan, 2001, it falls under this new law. However IANAL, so you may have to have a lawyer parse through it.

This website summarizes a bunch of it, but once again, not a lawyer so I'm not sure what the final wording on it is.

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Random question, probably doesn't belong here, but I want an optic.

Aimpoint t2, aimpoint pro, trijicon mro, or an eotech xps3?

Are eotech's memes now?

>>32239071
Fuck forgot the link
http://gunfightertactical.com/assault-weapon-classification/

>>32239105
Eotechs are apparently having some major qc issues, particularly in extreme temperatures. I've heard nothing but fantastic things about the Aimpoints and Trijicons. Either one of those should be good.

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>Bought my ARs when they started recording serial numbers for long guns
I'm fucked /k/omrades.

>>32239140
Just go featureless. You should be fine.

>>32238882
My bad. Must have caught temporary autism.

>>32238662

I am moving once it becomes financially viable for me to do so, but for the moment I'm trapped here.

>>32236863
It's worse

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I think going FEATURELESS is the way to go, however there was this post on calguns on how some guy views sb 880 section 30900

"If you ever possessed the rifle with a BB you will have to register it.

If you modified a BB rifle to featureless it is my interpretation that you must also register it as an AW. That is not a workaround, but opinions differ.

30900

(b) (1) Any person who, from January 1, 2001, to December 31, 2016, inclusive, lawfully possessed an assault weapon that does not have a fixed magazine, as defined in Section 30515, including those weapons with an ammunition feeding device that can be readily removed from the firearm with the use of a tool, shall register the firearm before January 1, 2018, but not before the effective date of the regulations adopted pursuant to paragraph (5), with the department pursuant to those procedures that the department may establish by regulation pursuant to paragraph (5).

'ANY PERSON WHO...POSSESSED...SHALL REGISTER...'"

This is interesting, especially for the people who purchased AR's around 2014 when they implemented the DROS of all long guns to be sent to the doj. So they pretty much know what model, and what ar you purchased and if it came with a BB. If it came with a BB, you might have to register it even converting.

idunno what do you guys think?

>>32239140
>He didn't buy an 80%

Can a completed 80% be registered?

>>32239351
>they pretty much know what model, and what ar you purchased and if it came with a BB

It doesn't specify on my DROS as having a bullet button - how are they to know? I can just say I bought as featureless

>>32239351
Well it does refer to what qualifies as an assault weapon in that Section 30515, if you change your rifle configuration to no longer qualify as an assault weapon before Jan 1st, 2018, you're good to go and the regulation no longer applies to you.

The bigger worry is the new ammunition bill that goes into effect starting 2018. If that doesn't get challenged in court, you'll have to do background checks on buying ammo, won't be able to buy ammo directly online without it being delivered to an FFL, need a ammo purchase card to buy ammo etc etc. That's going to shank us real hard for sure.

>>32239436
80% isn't going to save us that much either. If you want full evil features you have to have your 80% serialized and registered with the state. Otherwise afterwards, you'll only be allowed to build featureless configs.

>>32234678
nobody knows, DOJ are faggots like normal and havent put out any rules or explanations for their vague laws

>>32239458
Yes. You have until the end of 2017 to serialize and register your 80% lower if you want to make it with full evil features. After 2017, 80% lowers can only be built into featureless configurations.

>>32239468
Wouldn't specific models of AR's need to have a BB installed prior to being sold?

please enlighten me

>>32234996
some of us have like 10 lowers and can afford to register one or two

>>32239498
Nah those only refer to the specific "Banned Model by Name" list from the last go around of the Cali AWB in 2001. Those bans only apply to a very narrow range of models specifically identified by name (certain rock river arms lowers for example).

For now, you have until Dec 21 to buy any bullet button AR/AK in california in order to keep its original features. After Jan 1st, ARs/Aks can only be sold in featureless or ARMaglock configurations from retailers and you'll have until the rest of 2017 to decide what to do with your BB firearm.

>>32239539
hmm alright.

I always thought in order for an AR to be sold in Cali, it needed to have a BB. Which is why I thought the doj pretty much knows that the AR you purchased (atleast for people who bought a complete rifle) in the year of 2014-present has a bullet button.

Thanks for clearing that up

>>32239468
Very true, I guess the DROS doesn't specify whether you purchased it as featureless or having a BB

>>32239599
Well you are correct in a sense. Any centerfire semi automatic rifle has to fire from a fixed mag if it wants to have any evil features since 2001, it's just that on top of that, several models were banned by specific name for some stupid reason back in the day. Thankfully the bullet button qualified as a fixed until now. I'd imagine we'll get a whole raft of AR maglock rifles released soonish so folks can still have their pistol grips and adjustable stocks who don't want to register.

>>32238178
Thanks friend.
You truly are a great cow

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OP you're a dipshit. Just maglock the fucking thing.

You're not using an AR to defend yourself in CA anyways, you'd get assraped in court.

Just maglock and stay cute until the laws are un-cucked or you move out.

>>32239680
Trying to help where I can, there's a lot of questions running around right now and painfully little solid info.

>>32234678
>I'm registering my ar and ak as an assault rifle

You're part of the problem.

>>32238557
>you'll first have to deregister it as an assault weapon

...That's a thing? I was under the impression once it was on their list it was a 'salt weapon till the sun blows up.

>>32238584
...Is it wrong of me to want one just to cut out the kydex bit right there?

>>32239750
That apparently got modified by this legislation as a new option. I guess they figured the sheer volume of rifles that would be swamping whatever database they're coming up with, they apparently offered a way off of it as well.

It'll probably be similar to the new resident registration fee. Pay 19$, fill out a form and wait 6-8 weeks, but, once again as with all of these new laws, there's really no framework/instructions in place to process stuff like this yet. Probably start coming online next year.

>>32239764
Nice thing about that thumbhole plate, it's easily removeable. The screw at the top holding it in is easily removeable if you end up moving to a non-ban state. no cutting required.

>>32239815
I hope, I truly, truly hope that CAL DOJ either gets swamped and is unable to keep up with demand, or they only get 1-10% compliance.

>>32239539
its an open registration period regardless. you can register old guns banned by name during the 2017 grace period

>>32237673
>>32238178
>>32239680
>>32239705

I was thinking of getting the bullet button reloaded by that prince guy who made the BB, or the armaglock. However those two contraptions look permanent. So idk about all of that.

Also the BB reloaded and armaglock was designed to comply with a bill that didn't go through several years ago. The old bill stated that you had to open the action of the firearm to release the magazine.

The new bill states the action of the firearm has to be disassembled to be released from the gun.

The BB reloaded and armaglock allows you to quickly pull the rear take down pin, and open the action quickly.

So this product is kind of sitting in a grey area to be honest.

>>32239842
Sweet did not know that.

>>32239839
Oh i'm positive whatever computer system they set up is going to shit the bed either at the beginning or end of 2017 when everyone tries to rush it. Hell, their dros system has a hard enough time as it is.

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>>32239685
>until the laws are un-cucked or
surely CA will deliver

>>32239860
Hmmm... I should ask a deputy I know out in Fresno county to find out if Mims is going to instruct her guys on whether they're going to enforce this bullshit or just turn a blind eye as long as no one goes and shoots up anything they aren't supposed to.

>>32239845
I have to admit, that part does worry me. Nothing has been clarified what is necessary for "disassembling" the action. That's what makes these laws so frustrating. They're either incredibly narrow in one area, but then incredibly vague in another.

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>complying at all

Top Kuk

>>32239879
Yep, which is why I am going the featureless route.

even though they'll probably push a ban for featureless too

>>32239877
>relying on the word of an elected official with a term limit of service
>in california

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For a board that always talks about fighting the governments regulations and shit you faggots sure did roll over and ruin your guns, by next year you guys will all be fighting to keep your bolt actions.

I would never comply to any ban.

>>32239860
https://barrett.net/firearms/model82a1/#specfications

nows your chance to get a 50bmg m82. just get one in 416 with the fixed mag option, register it, convert to 50 bmg, profit

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>>32238584
>>32238557

....

>MFW I imagined the cqr stock and foregrip with an AR 5.7 upper

>>32239936
i dont care what happens to california im leaving to texas

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>>32239868
I feel it, I'm not from here, so I don't plan on staying in this waterless wasteland.

Motherfuckers here didn't have nice green lawns so they literally planted grass and installed sprinkler systems to keep it alive.
How fake can you get?

Shit state. Shit laws and shit people. Register an AR? Fucking kek

>>32237409
Instead of standard mag release, you have to press the button down with a tool (bullets are considered tools). You can bypass this with magnet attachment that kinda makes it a fatter standard release.

>>32239815
Cali cucks go through more work to use a gimpy gun then we go through to get NFA items

Wew, fucking lads.

What a shithole

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>>32237353
>-Can't sell it to anyone before de-registering it (probably take 6-8 weeks) and making it featureless
>-Can't pass on to your kids.
>-Can't ship it anywhere without going through an FFL that can deal in Machineguns/Registered AWs/Destructive devices
>-Can't stop anywhere between your home and place where you're going to shoot. No stopping for food or movie after a range trip.
>-Must carry registration paperwork with you.
>-Cannot loan your weapon to anyone for any reason

AWHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAH

*BREATHS*

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA

OH JESUS WOW

>>32234902
Time to man up or shut up California. Either the Second Amendment means something or it doesn't.

If you want to play it safe, get one with a Bullet Button Reloaded or register it, and get one to put in the attic or bury that's a real 'salt weapon.

DO NOT COMPLY. It's time to stand up against this shit, even if you have to make the hard decision to meet the Gun Confiscation Task Force with your finger on the trigger.

>>32234996
Tragic boating accident.

>>32240135
if its time to bury its time to use them, or so the saying goes.

i dont think you need to bury your guns anon, we just need californians to organize into some civil disobedience to force lawmakers to shove this bullshit back up their ass where it came from. if there is enough vocal opposition/unrest, they would be forced to listen

>>32240276
this is literally the new age of civil rights movement

Don't comply. A bunch of faggots in SF, LA, and Sacramento don't represent me, so I'm not going to follow their unconstitutional laws. Furthermore, what do you think is stopping those fuckstick politicians from going back on their word? They "allowed" 10+ round magazines back then, but now they just passed legislation so you can't have anything with 10+ rounds.

Do not comply.

>>32239003

Whereabouts anon?

>>32237479
what if you weld a 50 round mag directly to the receiver?

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>>32234678
lol I moved to Oregon, so much better up here, nearly creamed myself when I bought some 30 round PMags.

I'll definitely blow a load once I get my state ID/Drivers license and buy a gun and leave with it that day,

Fuck I'm hard from just typing that

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>>32240135
>even if you have to make the hard decision to meet the Gun Confiscation Task Force with your finger on the trigger

>>32240276
>>32240135
The problem is although their are a bunch of people that wont, they are spread throughout the state and are not consintrated in one area enough so that it will cause law makers to realize oh shit, california needs a RED version of LA or SF In order for the state to turn shit around

>>32240734
they have jefferson

>>32239946
Oh lordy yes. I'd have to start reloading for that though, no way am I paying 11$ a round for .416 barrett from Turners for that. Even from a derricious m82.

>>32240019
Yeeup it sucks, we're dealing as best as we can.

>>32240395
I think you'd still run into the capacity issue set forth by SB 1446. It just refers to magazines period. Doesn't appear to make a distinction between fixed or detachable.
http://lawnewz.com/important/california-has-banned-possession-of-high-capacity-magazines/

How do we protest? Silently through civil disobedience?

Is there any audible way to protest without coming off as violent? Ideally no guns would be involved.

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>>32238279
When they come to take your guns (and they will), they'll have a registry of who and where they live.

>>32234678
HAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHJAHAJAHAHHAHHAHA
Here's the ingenious part!
The law doesn't state it!
CADOJ sure as fuck isnt responding to people asking.
THEY MADE IT VAGUE ON PURPOSE. So if someone does try it, they have all the fucking power to come down on you.

Don't fucking comply. Or make gun featureless and save up to move out of this lost cause of a state.

>>32238800
I wouldn't bother declaring residency in CA or bringing your guns there.
just buy a sturdy baseball bat, finish your business in CA, and move the day you graduate/clean out your office
>don't have to register your guns
>don't have to cuck a perfectly fine gun

>>32239140
>not grinding your serial number off to flip the bird at CA
shiggydiggy

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You fucking Calicucks need ALL of your guns taken away, to serve as a lesson to the rest of us.
Then you need to be rounded up, and sent to work camps as to understand Black Trauma. Then your wives, and daughters, need to be raped by niggers, and spics, in order to embrace diversity.
In other words, fuck you Calicuck faggots, you surrendered your inalienable rights to fucking faggots, commies, and liberal trash. THEN, you have the fucking NERVE to complain on /k/. Do us all a favor, drive to Sacramento, and shoot the first Liberal you see. If not, shut the FUCK up.

>have PTR
>all I have to do is slip on a sharkfin on my pistol grip and put on a muzzle brake (i was going to do anyway)

lol now im featureless :^]

>>32241405
Califag here, donated $100 to the Calexit campaign. We must be sacrificed for the good of the Union.

>>32241437
>toilets are banned
>LOL all I have to do is shit into my permanent colostomy bag, hahaha that'll really show California guys xD

>>32241405
If you didn't do what you recommended back in the federal AWB, shut the fuck up. Imagine being as right wing as possible, voting straight ticket republican, donating to every major gun org, telling every friend and family about gun rights (without the autism), showing up at rallys. Then you get outvoted 5:1 or worse by liberal trash and you can't move because of work.

Some of you from gun-friendly states act like you worked for it, but to us trapped in commie states, you sound more entitled than fucking boomers.

>>32241405
My uncle has to work there for his job, feel bad for him
Also feel bad for all the /k/omrades that are too poor to get out.

Ah well, if you can get out, do it. Otherwise ye be fugged.

>>32241475
Hey dumbass its literally a sharkfin that slides on and off the grip. That's it. Thats ALL i have to do to not register my salt weapon.

Stupid fuck.

>>32234678
Question:

IF the bullet button is getting banned, then that means ALL future rifles in California will have regular magazine releases, just that they will now become featureless?

>>32241596
Not necessarily. The new law requires disassembly of the action to remove the magazine, so semi-auto rifles next year will be either featureless or fixed mag.

>>32241489
1. I was 3 when the AWB was signed.
2. I live in a communist shithole and can't move due to.... OK faggot here's a plan.
1.SAVE money. (Do ANYTHING. sell your guns, get a loan, whatever it takes.)
2.Find a cheap apartment/house. (In other states this is easy.)
3.When you move NEVER VOTE. You are contaminated, what might be "conservative" to you is liberal as fuck to us.

>>32238675
There's a website that makes custom wraps for whatever your pistol grip is.

>>32239003
Got any desert or blm close by? I drove about an hour out with friends to Palmdale and had the best shot I've ever had for free

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>>32241630
0/10

>>32241630
Can't wait till the liberal cancer hits your state, then you wouldn't be so smug.

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So what if I didn't register my rifle at all?

Does the government actually have a database of who owns guns and what type?

Will local law enforcement be focusing on this task?

How will the background checks work for ammunition?

Will I still be able to order ammunition online?

Will praying to our lord and savior trump save California?

How much power does the president have to make change? Influence?

Should I sell everything I have and open a trump church?

Tf is a bullet button

>>32241801
Kindly Disregard this post

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>>32241798
>background checks work for ammunition
please tell me this isn't actually a thing in California

>this thread
Europe sure sucks, huh ?

This thread makes me so thankful that I live in Maine.

Not being smug. Just damn glad to have been born and rased here

>>32238882
Also the nationwide AWB allowed one feature, just not two or more, gave people a lot more wiggle room. All the proposed renewals made it even more cucked like the cali version and only allow one.

Does anyone know why california allows bayonets? I cant understand why they'd come to their senses on that one thing but be cucked on everything else, maybe it has something to do with korean war veterans and m1 carbines?

>>32241798

Trump isn't gonna do shit.

>>32241849
Brand new this voting cycle. God help us.

>>32241992
The feature ban list was developed as a way to ban alternatives to weapons banned by name, like the Spas 12, AR, and AK. This is clear in the structuring of the law, you can actually watch it get worse and worse as you read through each amendment.

>>32234716

>California state police

You really are clueless, aren't you?

>>32241798
Somebody in California needs to take advantage of Trump's supreme court appointment and sue the state over the AWB.

Better fucking pray the supreme court rules the AWB unconstitutional.

Also try and get the approved handgun roster ruled unconstitutional. That shit is pure BS.

Don't comply with a single one of the new laws.

>>32241992
It allowed two. what are you, a millennial?
Pistol grip and detachable magazine were the two most went with. Silver solder or pin a brake on, fixed stocks everywhere, etc.

>>32240673
kek

>>32242903
It was a detachable mag with two or more features that was banned, fixed mag could have everything. Learn your history if you're gonna LARP as an old guy, Christ.

>>32237353

What a fucked up state, I bought my Colt ar15 at Walmart for $800 and walked out in 10 minutes

Guys, I'm pretty sure you're not going to be able to insert a normal mag release if you register your BB AR. You'll be put on a new list of BB ARe because they're now classified as an assault weapon. I don't think the DOJ would be that nice to let you make an unneutered rifle.
So unless someone can prove me wrong (I'm pretty sure the DOJ hasn't released a letter yet) I'm not getting my hopes up.

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>>32237353

>Cuckfornians will defend this

>>32243303
I'm not going to defend it for a second but I'm not autistic enough to kill myself fighting the government over it.

When is there going to be a ruling that banning gun parts (stocks, flash hiders, etc) is unconstotuntional. I am waiting for the liberals to ban firing pins and bolt carriers that fit "assault weapons" next.

>>32243319
Never. Second amendmemt will be repealed before 2030.

>>32243327

Maybe in the Berenstein universe where Hillary won.

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>>32239003
>Feel stupid not having a gun that I can never shoot

I hear ya, I'm also in NY I thought I had a featureless rifle bought one of those special NY compliant handgrips and everything but was informed by a NY state trooper my barrel was threaded and that technically it was an assault weapon and that it was a felony charge. I nearly shit a brick right there on the range. He was cool though, thought the law was bullshit and advised me to get a different barrel.

Had to spend $250 on an unthreaded barrel. The only thing I can think of is I now have an extra barrel and pistol grip that I can't use by can use anywhere but CA and NY and CT.

Such is life in communist NY

>>32243334
Wrong.
>Trump is incompotent boor
>Reds lose next election by default
>Blue trans Muslim 'woman' removes gun rights permanently
>international community applauds move
>angry sna/k/es get stepped all over during government approved theft
>mole men with their nuggets and GRAB SKS GO INNAWOODS are the only ones left

>>32234678

I don`t get this. Why you muritards always yelling about how free and great your country is regarding firearms. You have more retarded laws than my shitty country has. Faggots.

>>32243429
Cuckifornians and Jew Yorkers aren't Americans.

>>32243395
>more guns than people in the US
>thinks disarming the US is possible
le ebin troll xD

>>32243510
You don't have to arrest every gun nor every person. Just every gun owner.

>>32243475

Then who is Americans then?

>>32238662
>just move so that one aspect of one of your hobbies will be slightly better

Do you even realize how ridiculous you sound?

>>32243532
Me and my brother own 11 guns between the two of us. You're dumb if you think people will just give up thousands of dollars of merchandise with no reimbursement on the basis that it's suddenly unconstitutional even though it's been normal their entire lives. Gun control has actually been decreasing in the majority of states. It's just the coastal cities that are getting it worse. You're delusional if you think there's any nearby date of us losing our right.

>>32243551
The rest of the states.

Except for the blacks, hispanics, asians, Indians, women, Jews, Muslims, Hindus, Sihks, aethiests, homos, trannies, cucks, hipsters, and liberals.

Just straight, white, Christian men. Not all Christians though, Catholics get out.

>>32238279

>I have an IQ of 21: the post

>>32243590
Well Cletus, you and Billy-Bob Jr. will give up those guns willingly or you will be forced to comply. Resist and you will be killed. Then who will watch over old man Billy-Bob's homestead?

>>32243646
not even the Jews in congress are that fucking crazy, it would tear this nation apart.

not to mention bankrupt it, congress would be scraping pennies together to try to pay their own fucking paychecks.

>>32243630
>asians
>not liking asians as much as white wimin
You make our chinese overlord sad

>>32239351
>buying complete AR's
>the current year

>>32243669
Don't get me wrong I'm all about that yellow pussy. They're not real Americans though.

>>32239136
Don't listen to this fucking idiot, Earlier versions of EOTechs were having extreme temp drift (as in 40 below or 110), but anything .a63 series or newer has been fixed. Most of what you would buy off the shelf now is .A65 and is perfect. They're also excellent optics and really rugged shit

>>32243646
Yea right

No cop will willingly do this.

>>32243395
>Trump is a joke candidate
>Trump will never break 35%
>Trump will never win a state
>Trump won't win South Carolina
>Trump won't win Super Tuesday
>Trump won't break 50%
>Trump won't win the primary
>Trump will never be nominated at the convention
>Trump will lose all three debates
>Trump will lose after Pussygate
>Trump will never win the presidency
>The US will go into civil war if Trump wins
YOU ARE HERE
>Trump will never win the Electoral College vote
>Trump will never become president
>Trump will never Make America Great Again

>>32241529
>hey dumbass it's literally a buttplug that slides in and out of my asshole. that's it. that's ALL i have to do

>>32243777
He already using his position to advance his personal interests. His property in Scotland, to advance the approval of a hotel and Taiwan, and to sabotage Boeing so he can buy stock cheaper. He's a con man.

>>32241529
Or just not comply

Fug da bolice :DDDD

What does /k/ recommend then? My M&P sportsman 2 5.56 is my bugout and home defense gun. I'd rather register it than take a chance with that featureless bs

>>32244111
you're so right. i should have voted hillary, she wouldn't do anything of the sort

>>32244111
I heard he wants to destabilize Russia so he can set up businesses in ukrine and eastern europe... wait.

>>32241257
>When they come to take your guns (and they will)
(no they won't)
>they'll have a registry of who and where they live.
what the fuck kind of half-assed gun grabbers are going to rely on a registry?

>>32244211
>They won't take your guns

Then why do they need to register them? Registration always leads to confiscation.

>>32238956
>private sale
Anon new to the thread here, yeah no private sales not a thing in California, you gotta go through an FFL and I'm sure there's paperwork

>>32238570
so how do you hold it and pull the trigger then? if it was designed differently you could hold it from above but gun is too thick and it has a scope on it
do you just remove it before you fire it? does that make it suddenly illegal?

>>32238279

Driving is not a right.

Captcha: cars.

>>32238449
As an European gun owner, I wish we had a few of these...

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>>32238557
>Planning to convert my ARs to use this Hera Arms stock when it gets released in a few weeks.
They'll ban those next referendum

>>32244378
This

Its California

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hahahaha look at this

>>32241405
>>32241489
>>32241630
>>32241784

Stop fighting amongst yourselves, that kind of weakness only makes those assholes that pass this bullshit stronger.

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>>32234678
>complying with illegal edicts

>>32243395
>>Blue trans Muslim 'woman' removes gun rights permanently

Are you aware of how the Constitution actually works, or are you just a shitposting leaf?

>>32234678
>get rid of my bullet button
>bullet button
WTF is that?

>>32241596

>>32241623
Pretty much nailed it. Future retail rifle sales will either have to be featureless, or if the legal status of the new ARMaglock that pops open the action is confirmed, will probably be sold with those just like with the old bullet button.

>>32241653
That's probably what I'll do for my Sig716 honestly. I can't find any stock I like that fits an AR config and I don't want to get rid of my PRS stock after paying 200 bucks for it.

>>32241798
Pretty much if you bought an AR since 2001, they know about it. You either have to register it as an assault weapon or make it featureless or use the new ARMaglock once people confirm it's ok to use.

>>32241849
>>32241798
>>32242827
Here's my understanding of the Ammo Law

Staring in 2018, you'll need a Ammo Purchase ID card to buy ammo, renewed every 4 years. In addition at time of purchase, you'll need to pass a background check.

Next by january 2018 only licensed ammunition vendors can sell ammo. IE no more private party ammo sales more than 50 rounds per month.

By January 2019, any ammo purchases made out of state MUST BE DELIVERED TO AN FFL dealer. no more prviate delivery of ammo purchases.

Yeah we fucked if this doesn't get challenged.

>>32244274
From what I've heard it's tricky to get used to, (i've practiced with my ARs and it definitely is weird hand position) but it is doable. You just have to be a bit more careful with your trigger finger since more pressure is riding on it without your thumb wrapping around it.

>>32244378
Well we got 16 years out of the bullet button, I can only hope they'll remain at least as incompetent for the foreseeable future.

>>32245407
>we got 16 years out of the bullet button
that doesnt sound right its more like 6-7
bullet buttoned ars became widespread in 2010 maybe 9

the bullet button sure as hell wasnt a thing in the 2000s

>>32237521
It is, but there's a fuckton of them and they're well protected.
Sure as fuck isn't going to be the Californians going to fight them though.

HELP. WHAT THE FUCK IS THE BULLET BUTTON???????????

>>32243579
It's a little more complicated than just "muh hobbies". The state of California ACTIVELY infringes on the second amendment rights of it's citizens, rights that 240 years of fighting SHOULD have guaranteed. Unfortunately, the cunts in charge there see the second amendment as an obstacle to """progress""", and if they see one amendment as an obstacle, what's stopping them from seeing the whole bill of rights as such?

>>32245539
its was a 20-30$ piece of crap bolted to your gun that kept your gun from being illegal and let you buy what you want

now its magical power to keep things legal has vanished thanks to new laws

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>>32245572
They already see the Constitution as something to be ignored

>>32245587
So, are we talking about a mechanical modification to an existing weapon system or what? The word button implies it had to be pressed or something...

>>32245652
Correct, basically it made your mag release "recessed" The OP has a pic of it. >>32234678 and the only way to drop the mag was to use a "tool" to insert into the hole to drop the mag. The hole was a perfect size of a bullet tip which could be used to engage it. Hence "Bullet Button".

>>32245726
I did see the OP pic and I figured out that the 'button' part of the name implies some action (pressing it) but I wanted to know what the fucking function was (other than making liberals a bit less on the edge). Thanks.

>>32237409
I didn't know such things existed either anon don't feel bad. I only found out about them through K.

So how's Oregon? Is it nice?

>>32245949
only if you vote red down the whole ticket
if you're going to vote blue fuck right off

I have some guns that are being registered and others that aren't. I have bought multiples solely for registration purposes. They will be stored in different locations.

Yeah, I'm fucking nuts.

>>32245969
I vote for freedom, full stop. I'm not letting Christfags determine laws based on their backwards ass religious texts.

>>32246184
here's the problem: voting any blue gets them a foothold and we have all seen what happens with that (cough guns). if you want guns and vote blue you're working against your guns.

>>32246205
I'm not saying vote blues into positions of power, but the Jesus freaks wanted to make condoms mandatory for porn down here. No big issue really but why the fuck should such a law be passed? It's moronic.

Support

For Adult Industry Responsibility (FAIR), also known as Yes on 60, led the campaign in support of Proposition 60.

Michael Weinstein, president of the AIDS Healthcare Foundation, was the chief proponent of Proposition 60.

Supporters
Parties
California Peace and Freedom Party
Santa Monica Democratic Club
Organizations
AIDS Healthcare Foundation
American Sexual Health Association
California State Association of Occupational Health Nurses
California Communities United Institute
Beyond AIDS
California Academy of Preventive Medicine
Southern California Coalition of Occupational Healthy and Safety
AltaMed Action Fund State PAC

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>Been hunting for a Cx4 for months now
>Literally nobody has them
>With less than a month to go, finally find a store that stocks them
>In San Diego
>I'm in Fresno
>Fuck
>Email them asking if they have any in stock (their website says to email them for availability)
>They just got a shipment in, but they cant ship it
>Fuck. Tell them I'll make the six hour drive on Thursday if they hold onto it
>They email me back saying they can ship it after all if I am willing to pay extra for shipping and find a FFL in town who will take it
>Okay
>Call my favorite store
>"We aren't doing any more transfers until next year"
>Call local dive gunstore
>"Ya we'll take it"
>Email San Diego back telling them I found a store and I will pay for premium shipping
>That was on Tuesday
>Haven't heard back
>Just emailed them again

Getting really sick of this bullshit tbph famalam. I'm probably going to end up paying $1200 for a $750 carbine, IF I get it at all.

Worst case scenario is they ship it to the FFL and the FFL changes his mind/runs out of time to do to the transfer (dont forget the 10 day waiting period) and I pay over a grand for absolutely nothing.

>>32246435
Here's the kicker:

As of November 15, 2016, the largest and only donor in support of this initiative was:

Donor Amount
AIDS Healthcare Foundation $4,997,809.19

There's no Jesus freaks to be seen.

>>32246450
C A L L T H E M

>>32246450
Fucking millenials.
>I-I emailed them a lot.
Only fags and tween girls check their email more than twice a week.

>>32246500
I don't wanna be "that guy" but if thats what it comes down to I will. I'll give him a few hours to email me back.

Honestly I'm not going to drive for a total of 24 hours (six hours going, six coming back, then do it again to pick it up after 10 days) just for a 9mm carbine. At that point I'll find some shmuck in Arizona, drive over there, and have him straw purchase it for me since they still have private transfers (thanks Nevada for banning private transfers).

>>32246535
>Only fags and tween girls check their email more than twice a week.

Or people with a job that actually makes decent money (that isn't engineering or trades).

>>32234678
>70% mexican
>retarded and arbitrary gun restrictions
>drying up faster than Hilldawg's snatch
>socialist bullshit

God, why on earth would anyone live in Cali

>>32246581
So... fags?

>>32246535
>I'm too lazy to check my email when I stand to make a thousand dollar sale

Talk about lazy millennials.

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>>32246605
>Anybody that isn't me is a faggot

>>32246594
>born there
>have to go to college there, pay out the ass for out of state tuition, or go to a shit school in the WUE program
>most end up taking any job they can land right out of college (I hope to avoid this mistake)
>end up trapped because they start a family/stationary career

>>32246562
They are for sure just swamped with people. I picked up my vepr yesterday from my lgs since my 10 days came up. They had a shit load of boxes everywhere and were talking about how they were super busy because of all the panic buying going on. You got until Dec 21st anyway, and it's not like it'll take more than a day or two to ship to your lgs.

>>32243590
I'd wager a decent chunk of gun owners (ballpark it around 35-45%) would surrender most/all of their guns in the event a buyback/confiscation was enacted. When faced with the options of maintaining most of your rights or getting into a shootout with the authorities, most people are going to choose the option that doesn't aerate their chest cavity. All those molon labe/pls no steppy stickers don't mean dick and we all know it

>>32246763
Why would they give their guns up?

Most guns are totally unregistered and untraceable.

Unless they go door to door of every house they will never find shit.

>>32246740
Ya, I know all the gun shops are busy as hell right now, which is why I'm trying to resist the urge to spam them with emails and phonecalls.

>>32246763
>I'm cuck, so everyone else is too!
lol

>>32246450
I can get you that PX4 for $800 if you have a dealer I can send it to. [email protected]

>>32246784
>why did any CAfag register their 'saltgunz?
>>32246825
sick burn, broh

>>32246858
Thats a good question

I bet most didn't comply.

>>32246874
Can't even comply yet. Doesn't go into affect until Jan 1st 2017 and even then god knows how they're going to implement it. What a disaster.

>>32246887
There has already been one AWB in CA

What were the compliance stats on that?

>>32246828
No dice, I already have a Px4. I'm looking for a Cx4 to go with it.

>>32244111
>cutting out fat and useless spending, like a CEO is hardwired to do, is corporate sabotage
Wew lad.

>>32247022
I made typo thats what i can get. email me if you want. Takes Beretta 92 mags

>>32247059
Sent.

They make adaptors for the different magazines, so as long as its 9mm and is CA legally modified we are in business.

>>32239351

What's weird is that rimfire rifles are specifically not covered by any of this, so your M&P 15-22s will still be perfectly legal with a detachable mag, pistol grip, and everything.

That might be the way to go for some people.

>>32239845
Go featureless fuck not having a normal mag release

>>32247083
California law is so obtuse that even gun stores sometimes get the laws wrong. I've been to places that won't sell anything with a pistol grip to people under 21.

Even I'm not sure if rimfire is affected by the existing AWB.

>>32241405
Ok mr. Gungrabber shill.
We'll commit terrorist acts in the name of gunowners and it'll not affect everyone even more. The media and general public will suddenly start heralding us as saviors and gun laws will be erased within the next day.

Post guns or Fuck off.

>>32239351
There are laws on the books (you can find it on the FAW for the CA DOJ) that say you can convert an AW into a non-AW and de-register it. If the gun IS NOT an AW there is no reason to register it, so if your gun is already featureless, don't register.

If for someone reason you registered a non-AW or you have an AW you want to de-register, you can totally do that. You can just never go back.

Ak guy here... Sorry but what's a bullet button?

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Or, just buy a fixed-magazine SKS.

Seriously, it's almost like Sergei Simonov designed the thing with sidestepping California's stupid assault rifle laws in mind.

>>32247128
California has an assault weapon ban.

Part of that ban involves counting detachable magazines as a feature of an assault weapon.

A "bullet button" is a catch all term for a modification that fits over or around your magazine release, which forces you to use a tool (tip of a bullet, screwdriver, hex wrench, etc.) to detach the magazine.

This allows you to keep a pistol grip, while at the same time making your rifle have a fixed magazine, negating the assault weapon ban.

A law going into effect on the first of next year changes the AWB so that bullet buttons are no longer legal.

>>32244260
>Inplying the police are at every corner

>>32239470
>If you want full evil features you have to have your 80% serialized and registered with the state
IIRC you can/could register an 80% without putting a serial number on it

>>32246905
Does it matter? They'll keep stacking on laws cause it just feels so good!

>>32247170
There is a registry. A quick check of your weapons serial number will determine its registered owner.

If you do not use an FFL to transfer your firearm, your name and the registered name will not match.

>>32247197
It does because it would disprove that one guy who thinks that 35% to 45% of gun owners will give up their guns.

>>32247114
Fixed stock
Comp or brake
Kydex pistol wrap

Bam, featureless.

>>32247212
Not all guns in CA are registered

Most arent actually

>>32247164
So then ars and such are just illegal then.
That's actually a really clever way to ban """"scary"""" weapons.

>>32239351
>This is interesting, especially for the people who purchased AR's around 2014 when they implemented the DROS of all long guns to be sent to the doj. So they pretty much know what model, and what ar you purchased and if it came with a BB. If it came with a BB, you might have to register it even converting.


Califag here, I hope that California vigorously goes after people who don't register their guns. Remember how people were fearing mass inspections and confiscation from the SAFE Act? They should do that, check all the semi-auto models in the system and mandate inspections.

It's a fight CA would lose. The mandate to register de-featured BB guns as assault weapons would be shot down by SCOTUS and probably take the assault weapons ban with it. 9th Circuit might be smart enough to quietly strike down that mandate and stop it from snowballing.

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>>32234870
I dunno, you see those threads on Calguns and people sweat their asses off trying to make things comply, the fear culture is insane. You see people on there literally getting scared of 922r and thinking they're gonna get v& if they use anything but 300% compliance parts in their fucking WASRs

>>32247298

So what's the plan? Get a judge to sign 30 million search warrants? Good luck with that. And if a cop comes to my door to check for assault weapons and doesn't have a warrant, he can go kick rocks.

>>32247296
No, because the gun needs to have two "assault features".

ARs usually have two: pistol grips and detachable mags. As of next year, bullet buttons will be illegal, so instead of making our magazines fixed, we are just going to take the pistol grips off.

That's exactly what I'm doing for my AK.

>>32237353
That's fucked up. I'm fucking Canadian and laughing at you.

>>32237409
An act of cuckoldry

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>>32247362
Oh and inb4 "How do you take the pistol grip off an AR and still have it usable?"

Like this.

>>32247362
>No, because the gun needs to have two "assault features".
>ARs usually have two: pistol grips and detachable mags
You're misrepresenting the AW law, detachable mags aren't a feature. It's a detachable magazine AND one of the features. Fixed-mag guns can have telescoping stock, pistol grip, flash hider, and whatever else.

>>32247394
>Like this
You can shit into a toilet without sitting down on it but do you actually want to?

>>32247459
No, but would you prefer not having a toilet?

I can't wait to go to the range in 2017. I'll go with just my bolt action to see how many people are actually complying. I doubt I'll see very many. The range I go to is very popular so who knows. Last time I went there was a guy wearing his badge on the line. So there are definitely people there that are more than aware of the new laws.

>>32247394
That's actually kind of aesthetically pleasing desu senpai

>>32237906
you're gonna be just as fucked as us in a few generations m8. Once Whites are a minority in America, say goodbye to gun rights.
Every non white group in America votes majority Democrat.

Magazine release (parts kit) cost about $8, If it were me it would sit in the safe with the bullet button and I would have the parts ready to go in my bug out bag. If the threads are red lock tight drill it out and then buy a bullet button and a regular Mag Release. $16

>>32238662
>born in raised in LA
>going to England for Uni next year

glad I'm a fudd who only likes bolt and shotguns. Otherwise I'd probably kill myself to death.

So happy my local sheriff has already come out and said he won't be enforcing any of this new shit...

>>32247194
you might run into the problem of the serial field when submitting registration

How does the state know whether or not 30 rounders are grandfathered, or did the new shit kill grandfathering?

>>32247468
No, but if they banned sitting down on ceramic toilets I'd rather get a wooden one and use it normally.

>>32247618
Killed it... turn em in or DIE

>>32247618
even grandfathered mags will be illegal to possess

>>32247571
"none" or "N/A"

>>32247646
i'm sure the DOJ is going to love that
they actually check those things

>FFL marks gun as picked up
>freezes
>restarts stupid program, marks picked up again
>gets call from DOJ about it

>>32247523
t. non-Calibro
Please, the ranges I go to are diverse as fuck. Take your propaganda elsewhere, /pol/cuck.

>>32247695
>facts
"muh /pol/"

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>>32247508
Then boy do I have a stock for you senpai

>>32247724
>only whites are pro gun
>facts
Pick one, cuck.

>>32247523
>Once Whites are a minority in America
Also just because we are a minority doesn't mean our population has changed. It just appears that way because minorities are growing exponentially on coastal cities and factors like immigration help contribute as well. Really the white population has not changed much, just more bullshit being spread around to fear monger.

>thinks super red states will ever become blue
Absolutely delusional. If anything is going to die out it will be the blues.

>>32247672
IIRC a guy tried it on Calguns and they assigned him a serial number, but there's nothing in the PC that would require you to affix it (as of then at least, I think the new 80% law exempts homebuilds that are volreg'd before a certain date)

>>32247748
god that's retarded

>>32247695
Non-whites vote Democrat and are anti-gun at much higher rates than whites, it's just a fact. Sorry if this breaks your fake moral compass.

>>32247748
How do you even maintain a grip on that thing?

>>32244131
featureless aint hard buddy.
>no adjustable stock
>no pistol grip. as in you can't wrap you thumb around the grip. so get that plastic thing in the pics above or a stock/grip combination
>no flash suppressor
those are the main things

>>32247752
Non-whites vote democrats much more than whites.

Let that sink in.
>>32247695
>shilling for other races
>calling other cucks
Yep.

>>32237521
Well I mean we aren't homicidal maniac like they believe we are. Also soon as you do that it pushes more people into the anti gunner's hands, if it was that simple it would have happened already.

>>32247821
No, it means your white population just becomes a minority in your own country, dumfuck.
>Absolutely delusional. If anything is going to die out it will be the blues.
There are more blue voters than red voters, dumbfuck.

Red voters are growing old.

>>32247897
>moving goal posts

>>32247929
Also no black paint

>>32247897
>>32247938
>>32247949
I forgot I was in a Cali thread. I'll bet you're all with her :^)..

Hard being red in a cuck state.

>>32247962
Seriously?

>>32247949
>There are more blue voters than red voters, dumbfuck
[citation needed]

That's why Trump lost, amirite? Oh wait.. :^)

>>32241257
How can they take my guns if I lost them all in a boating accident?

>>32247362
So instead of all these dumb-ass grip stuck to stock AR products why not just make what is technically a thumb hole stock because it's not a pistol grip it's a thumbhole stock by all technicalities

>>32247981
Nah he's just fuckin with you.
>>32247929
Covers the key points.
Fixed stock, a comp or brake or any muzzle device that specifically doesn't offer any flash suppression capabilities, and no pistol grip. You're good to go then.

>>32248076
Thumbhole stocks are specifically banned by name. You can't have a thumbhole stock on a non-aw, counts as a pistol grip.

If you want one, you'll have to register it as an AW before the end of 2017.

>>32238424
>tfw the nicest AR I've seen in a while is in California.

State of Jefferson now please. Fuck those LA/SF cunts. Can't we just send Sacramento a friendly little letter saying they can eat shit or get shot?