Have they unfucked the accuracy on the X95 yet. Also bullpup thread.

>>32232860
still shit son sorry

get an AUG

accuracy has always been whatever

but its a nice meme

>>32236468
>muh AUG
lol

>>32236501
Still the best after 40 years.

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>>32236501
>>32236516
Love my AUG
Has anyone tried one of pic related?
I want to get one in 308, but theyre so unobtanium that theres barely any reviews

RDB availability when?
That survival one that nutn showcased looked hella fucking rad. Never got an actual number on how much it weighs.

>>32232860
Rdb is where it's at apparently. Even for a bullup it is extremely compact and relatively cheap.

>>32236934
Don't know. That video though got me clamouring. Great innawoods gun for us Canucks.

>>32236934
If you mean the one that's meant to look like slavshit, it's vaporware. It was never meant to be released, it was a one-off

>>32236995
Sauce?

>tfw no civilian famas
>You will never get to pretend to be a Next Gen Foxhound solider at the range with your Mark 23 and famas

>>32237036
>Famas
why, cod babby?
its the worst one
you just want it because you cant have it

>>32232860
honestly the x95 was designed to vet people with more more or sense. The Sar tavor properly tuned with the all aftermarket parts and super bow trigger gets 1.5 MOA. It doesn't have the aesthetic of a SAR tavor either. it really is the black sheep of IWI in my honest opinion.

>>32236581
Made to order meaning ffls do not buy them you buy one hand made just for yourself. Owner of the company seemed very knowledgable when I talked with him over the phone.

>>32237107
meant to say more money then sense. 87 proof stuff is finally getting to me.

>>32236995
No, not that one. It's basically an RDB-C (with the Monte Carlo style grip) and weight shaved off everywhere they could ie pencil barrel and... stuff. Supposedly super lightweight and incredibly stowable though nutn never gave an actual poundage in his vid.

>>32237098
>why, cod babby?
>COD
>Foxhound

Nyet

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>>32237098
>>32237098

>>32232860
What did they do to make it as inaccurate as people say?

>>32237278
I have no idea. Barrels are essentially free floated, so it's probably just shit quality barrels to begin with.

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WHEN THE FUCK IS IT COMING OUT
NEXT QUARTER RIGHT?
FOREVER

>>32238101
That gun is reserved for the elite or its still over complicated shit vaporware. Buy a K&M .308 or a SAR tavor /RFB.

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Get a RDB, even they are better than Jewish Rifle.

>>32236934
Fingerfucked one at gun store. They were only selling it to LE at the moment. Something about special pricing.

It felt like a good gun. The hex head screws and lack of cover on the ejection port have me worried though.

>>32237036
I know those feels, comrade.

>>32237036
With the frogs switching soon expect imports.

>>32238101
I don't know but I want on in .308

>>32238834
nope.

all the FAMAS are going to get turned into rebar or end up in the hands of "freedom fighters" around the world.

>>32238842
Unfortunately true.

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>>32237098

>>32238101
Is that the desert tech one?

>>32237036
The first civilian famas released in the US had serious issues which is why it tanked and they stopped making one

>>32240285
>Is that the desert tech one?
Yup.

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Motherfucking best pup
bow down, shitters

>>32240311
That's not an FS2000.

>>32237098
>you just want it because you cant have it
you just figured this out? thats how humans work...

>>32240316
How is the accuracy on the FS2000

>>32240316
>no LRBHO
>can only take GI mags
>not supported by manufacturer, limited parts availability
>unconventional chamber location, difficult to inspect on the fly

>>32238842
>or end up in the hands of "freedom fighters" around the world.
That's a funny way of saying "niggers in Mali", which is neither anywhere close to "around the world" nor anywhere close to "freedom fighters" or terrorists.

>>32240344
good job you decoded his implication

>>32240337
About 2MOA, same as any other decent bullpup.
>>32240340
>granted
>GI mags are great and it only takes them for a good reason, sealing the entire system.
>yes they are
>lifting up a cover is hard

>>32240376
Is anyone ever going to make an accurized 1moa bullpup like they do with ARs?

>>32240376
lifting up a cover takes a hand you may not be able to spare. most other rifles can just be tilted.

>>32240340
>only takes GI mags
Or Emags, or gen3 Pmags, or Lancer mags, or HK high-reliability mags, or HK 416 mags, or Troy Battlemags,or a dozen others. In fact, the only rounds I've tried in mine that DIDNT work are gen2 pmags and hexmags.
>difficult to inspect (the chamber) on the fly
Not in the slightest. There's a little flip cap at the back of the pic rail that you flip up and directly observe the entirety of the chamber through. Actually quite a bit faster than a press check. But the thing likes to punch you in the nose and pull your mustache.

>>32240337
Pretty fucking mediocre considering it's a 20" CHF barrel. I think the best I've been able to manage with mine consistently was 2.5 MOA, and that was with a magnified optic and FGMM 69gr match ammo.

Part of the issue is there's literally no way to get a stable and comfortable rest with it, be it prone bench or bipod.

>>32240387
MDR is SUPPOSEDLY 1MOA or subMOA. But it has to actually exist first.

>>32240393
what twist rate is it?

>>32240387
No, because it's literally impossible to make a non-shit trigger for them.

>>32240404
1:9 for some dumb reason. At least the FS2000 is. Hence why I was shooting 69gr instead of 77gr.

>>32240393
>he actually cucked his gun by gutting the magazine gasket
You disgust me.

>>32240417
FS2000 has no gasket in the magwell. Solid hard plastic all the way up.

>>32240416
Grab some ADI 55 grain. That is 1:9's favorite. The AUG is also 1:9, probably a euro thing.

>>32236934
Whenever you want one...? There's always around a dozen on Gunbroker.

>>32240427
then you can't brag about the "sealed system"

>>32240435
Tried it. It's pretty good but the FGMM was slightly better.

Black Hills' reman 68gr "heavy match" load is right there too.

>>32240444
I didn't though.

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>>32240427
No.

>>32240406
>Thinking trigger affects the mechanical accuracy of a rifle
Seriously?
>>32240416
Nope, FS2000 is 1:7.
>>32240393
>20in barrel
17.5 chief.

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>>32240340
1.Flip up toilet bowl.
2.Remove rubber stoppers.
3. Noted.
4. See 1.

>>32240467
>>Thinking trigger affects the mechanical accuracy of a rifle
Beat me to it

...do most FS2000 owners know this little about their own guns? I can only trust you kapt.

>>32240467
>thinking the inability of the average user to achieve anywhere close to the mechanical accuracy of the gun somehow doesn't change what the gun shoots when shot by the average user
>thinking anybody gives even a quarter of a shit what a professional competition shooter can do with a rifle, or that anybody believes a manufacturer's claim on accuracy until they warrant it as such for the average user

Mine is 20" and 1:9.

>>32240459
Mine no has that.

Starting to think I got a cucked gun from the factory. It was bought factory new through a reputable brick and mortar store too.

Then again mine's also 12 years old. Have they updated it?

>>32240483
1. Rifle doesn't lock the bolt back automatically on an empty mag. This is AK tier.

>>32240494
They've always been designed from the ground up to be a sealed system far as I know, but maybe there were early models with different specs. I'm no FN historian. Neat if true though.

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>>32240494
What country are you in? Because there were only 2 versions released in America and the only difference is the optic (or lack thereof).

>>32240494
When you talk about a rifle's accuracy you don't talk about how it does with the lowest common denominator. You talk about what it as a mechanism independent from the shooter can do. Post your boatgun.

>>32240512
>unfired_guns.jpg

>>32240512
America.

I purchased the rifle new off the rack at Jim's Gun Shop in Fayetteville NC in October of 2004.

Which, according to the internet, is 2 years before the FS2000 existed. But I still have the original box and dated receipt.

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>>32240534
Post your fired guns anon

>>32240541
Post a pic

>>32240534
Only one is unfired. And I'm changing that next Thursday or Friday. The other two have thousands of rounds through them.

>>32240569
Sure they do, champ. Sure they do.

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>>32240575
Glad you agree chief.

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>>32237022
haven't heard anything about it since it was shown off in 2014

>>32240590
On another note, have you tried any polymer mags with the RFB? Heavy FAL mags seem like its only shortcoming, apart from serviceable but unimpressive accuracy.

>>32240600
Yeah, never happening, deal with it tactifudds.

>>32240612
>serviceable but unimpressive accuracy
Just like the FAL

>>32240612
Yeah, borrowed a couple thermold mags. They worked just fine, I just don't like them enough to invest in them myself. But if you're interested in saving a little weight, they should be fine.

>>32237098
>Foxhound solider
>Mark 23
>famas
>>>>>cod baby

>>32240406
incorrect, you just need to move the sear near the trigger like the RFB. Most designs don't do this though

>>32240844
Funny enough, this is how the KSG is and it's one of the worst bullpup triggers out there.

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>>32237107
A E S T H E T I C

>>32240406
>lol i dont know how guns work lol parrot memes lol

>>32241603
Fucking wew lad

I know it's made by (((IWI))) but goddamn that is a good-looking rifle. I need it in my life.

>>32232860
it cant be unfucked its a bullpup 5.56 AK

>>32240387
What's the MOA on a FAMAS? I saw the Forgotten Weapons episode on it the other day and it has a free-floating barrel.

>>32240590
wish the RFB came in w 24 inch heavy barrel.

i'm going to be shooting .308win. I want a 1moa rifle.

>>32243233
They did have a 24 in version, dunno how thick the barrel is though.

>>32240629
>thermold mags

Thermold FAL mags have the cheapest shittiest feel to them possible. I'm surprised they actually worked.

Moses mags would look breddy gud in a RFB.

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Best pup coming through.

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hows this thing coming along?

>>32243287
Well, I put about 120 rounds through them. So they worked that long. That's the extent of my use of them. I prefer metal mags whenever possible.

>>32243596
The RDB I had was flawless, but the RFB I shot seemed to have some issues. How has yours held up?

>>32241000
Comparing a shotgun to a 556 in term of precision, since it is what >>32240406
was talking about.

>>32243487
Vaporware.

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>>32243744
My RFB has about 9500 rounds through it. No complaints, nothing has broke. When it was new it didn't like fully loaded 20rnd surplus mags, but now it doesn't have any issues with them.

Haven't shot my RDB yet, changing that next week. I have a few guns I need to test.

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>all these people have rdbs
I'm drowning.

>go buy one, faggot!
I'm poor for a while, blame my c96.

>>32246413
>he can't afford 1k at the drop of a hat
Ask your mom to bump up your allowance.

>>32246442
I'm the one giving out allowance and paying for private education is killing me.

>>32246503
>I'm the one giving out allowance
cuck detected

>>32246508
>giving one's biological child money in return for them performing household chores is "cuck"
The word has lost all meaning.

>>32246550
KEK KEK KEK KEK

>>32246567
Damn you, nipmoot.

So the Tavor is shit, I know that much.

What is the best bullpups.

Are any of them significantly shorter than a 16" AR? I noticed some of them with their stocks end up being similar to a 16" AR in overall length.

>>32246642
they aren't similar if you aren't looking at fully collapsed stocks.

>>32246642
Tavor is okay.
AUG is pretty great.
FS2000 is pretty great.
RDB is pretty great.
X95 a SHIT.
K&M is okay.
RFB is okay.
PS90 is niche great, okay otherwise.
KSG is nice great, okay otherwise.
MDR will never exist.
MSBS will also never exist.

All bullpups flirt with the 26" OAL requirement.

>>32246642
Someone put the X95 and a DDM4 16" together and the OAL of both was maybe 2" apart at best.

Then again, I know that's a Tavor and the Tavor is shit.

So can someone convince me that polymer internals isn't a pants on head retarded idea?

I'd like an AUG, but that has always bugged me about them.

>>32246859
They work just fine, and on the off chance they do break they're stupid easy to replace what with being polymer and all.

>>32246859

The only actual problem is the friction the polymer sear has as its rubbing against more polymer, which makes the trigger pull really unpleasant. There are aftermarket fixes for that, though.

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I have an RDB, shoots like a dream, but the original extractor pin was to small and walked out and slammed into the BCG, bending it. Keltec is sending me a new one, but just want people to be aware.

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>>32243313
Is that a 1.5x or 3x? I have a 3x white myself. Also, what's with all the 20" AUGs on /k/? I have a 16" and really enjoy the SBR feel, but I also have a railed 20" coming to round out the collection.