9mm thread

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>>32232501
Have you considered the CZ P10 C?

Everyone I've seen had nothing but rave reviews so far.

Also what's your budget, that really determines a lot.

>>32232501

Go to a gun store and handle every gun you are thinking about. A lot of people will tell you "X" gun is so great but a lot of times the best gun is the one that feels best in your hands and has controls you are comfortable with.

That being said I dislike the CZ75. I find the M92FS or Glock 19 better.

you can get M9's kinda cheap now. from what i hear the marines r readopting the 1911 so there r a bunch of surplus M9's on the market now

>>32232530
>the marines are readopting the 1911

Really? Why?

>>32232530
There are no DOD surplus M9s on the market. With the exception of rare General models issued to brigadier generals.

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>>32232501
You won't be disappointed if you get a 92, they are smooth as fuck. Might want to try at least holding one first because they are pigfat though.

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>>32232501
I love my beretta m9a3

>>32232544

Probably because of the nearly guaranteed OHK, Subsonic ammo, and the fact they feel like sex in your hand.

>>32232559
How do you like the pocket .22

>>32232566
>OHK
Why is that? It fires the same ammunition as the beretta/glock? Why would there be a difference?

>>32232530
First of all, none of this is correct.
Secondly, you do NOT want surplus M9 pistols, they are all in abysmal condition, they are being replaced for good reason, these are not guns you want.

>>32232514
Not op but I'd wait til the polymer czs get some walking around time before considering it. I have a 2075 rami and love it. Learned to shoot on a 92 which is another fantastic pistol. It really comes down to size and capacity.

>>32232559
Jetfire or Minx?

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>>32232530
>you can get M9's kinda cheap now. from what i hear the marines r readopting the 1911 so there r a bunch of surplus M9's on the market now

And since FN got the contract to make both the Marines and the Army their M4's, brace yourself for surplus Colt M4's!

>>32232560
If it weren't for the safety on the slide, it would be a 10/10. With safety/decocker in current location it's a 6/10.

>>32232580
Not my picture just used it because it was the first image I found with a 92 in it.

I do have a 92S and have shot a Tomcat in .32 my dad owns though.
Can't comment on carrying it day to day but it shoots decent for a pocket pistol. The weight is substantial so it isn't as awful to shoot as a LCP for example but not so heavy that you would mind carrying it around.

It's decent enough as a pocket pistol that I plan buying it from him at some point.

>>32232559
m9a3 has a narrower grip.

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>>32232501
Have you considered the CZ-85 Combat?

>>32232566
.45ACP does not have significantly better performance than 9mm NATO.
In fact I'll argue that 9mm NATO is much better of a performer.
Also the Beretta feels good if you're not a manlet.

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Got this for $300 tax included, 15+1 2 mags and an 80s steel mag loader original box and papers too, has very little recoil, it's a bit large but if you were suggesting a Beretta it shouldn't be that big a deal for you.

>>32232501
try a bunch at the range and determine if you want SAO, DA/SA, or Striker first. Given your options (Beretta and CZ), you're looking at DA/SA.

In that segment I recommend the Sig P226, Jericho 941, CZ-75 or H&K USP. I don't particularly care for the 92, since I've seen iffy performance with them and painfully thin finishes. Of the four I listed I think the Jericho is the most accurate and the 226 is the most fun. I have most of them.

>>32232522
this nerd is correct.

>>32232544
No. They bought a handful of railed 1911s and almost immediately stopped using them. They are rack queens now.

>>32232678
The P80 and P90 series Ruger pistols are quite nice economy pistols.

I love my SP01, but it's all dependent on what you like. Handle and if possible, shoot the guns you are thinking about buying.

>>32232501

M9A3 would've been perfect if it didn't only come in roleplay-tan

>>32232514
>Everyone I've seen had nothing but rave reviews so far.
That's pretty much the same for every new gun until it one person has some bad luck or find a way to purposely fuck it up and then the majority of the gun reviewers and gun community drop it like a hot potato

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>>32232501
For whats it's worth I've never had any pistol loved as much as USP tactical. Yea the .45 is amazing but DAMN any1 that shoots my USP9T is in love.

Wife was a no guns untill she spent day blasting bullseyes with usp now she has her own and more.

Yea its cost os comparable to most of /k/'s house &car payment but you'll never regret it

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>>32233045
I'm thinking about trading my Legion P226 in for a USP9T after I finally picked up a P2000.

>>32232630
How? It's just an extension of the thumb to get it. May be a little less ergonomic than most, but not 6/10 worthy on that alone

>>32232501

A Beretta 92S can be really nice if you get one in good condition, and they're easily around $270. The only "bad" thing about them is the heel mag release.

>>32233148
He's obviously a bitch

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>>32233057
Niiiccceee !!

After the getting used to decocker safety of usp hk45ct is next on the get list. Had p2000sk in .40 @LGS but we decided was time to get edc in .45 given level of meffed up mfers in our area.

Got any plans for another h&k fullsize handgun?
P30L hk45 series all super nice

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So I am in Canada. Why would I ever get a 15/18 round pistol when it can only carry a 10 round magazine?
CZ 2075 RAMI BD it is

>>32233822
Mine came with a 14 and i added a +2baseplate to the ten. Im in forida though, so...

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Got a CZ P09 and love it.

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Posting 9 millis.

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I luv muh Berettas.

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>>32234022
>>32234006
>>32233976

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Get a Hi-Power

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>>32234079
Jack Ryan?

>>32233949
>Im in Florida though so...

We cant all live in freedom land anon.

My wife is getting me a nine millimeter handgun for Christmas cause we always get eachother gifts and from what I know it's a sign sauer ,a 9mm, and is modeled around the m92fs what do you /k/ommerades think it is

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Berettas are gay. Get a Sig or a Glock.

>>32232501
Those are both excellent choices. In the same price bracket, you might want to look at what HK has to offer in their USP and P30. The Sig P226 is nice, but I'd put Sigs in #4 position after HK > Beretta > CZ > Sig. The Browning Hi Power is also really nice, but there's such a huge price gap between new and used (due to all the police surplus) that if you don't like it, it may be difficult to sell.

In a lesser bracket of guns, you have things like the Walther PPQ, Glocks, and all of the other Glock knock-offs.

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>>32234149
Not with that attitude

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>>32232501
Hi Power is best steel frame 9mm

>>32234594
Substantiate your claim

>>32232559
That filename kek

>>32234079
They're pretty decent these days if you get MecGar 15rd mags and take out the magazine-disconnect.

>>32232501
glock
/thread

>>32233057
>Legion
>Not buying the MK25
I agree, get rid of that shit and get the HK. You bought the fancy dick 226 instead of the good one.

>>32235036
The Mk 25 doesn't have an upgraded trigger job from the factory.

>>32232522
i would do this .this is what i did . i had them pull a bunch of guns off and when i grasped the right one it was like some sort of magical connection, i felt instantly familiar with the pistol and all of it's controls

>>32232559

>dont carry me or my wifes son ever again

Smith&Weston Mp9 compact.

>>32233822

If youre in Canada that is a prohibited firearm

>>32235077
>Wifes son
>two berettas
>not this pic
>>32234725

Know your meme, kid.

>>32235152

In my defense the little one is a different shade than the big one


>fucking street signs 3 times

>>32233822
>>32235229

I believe all firearms with <4.2 inch barrels are banned.

>>32235229

would be prohib do to barrel length, sorry

If you want a gun whos mags can be unmolested by pins you could try a 1911 and you could even put extended mags in it for cool factor.

One upside of Canada is that you can get a 1911 for 300$

>>32235244
http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cfp-pcaf/fs-fd/prohibited-prohibe-eng.htm

Ya, you're right. The 2075 has a barrel length of 3.05 in

>>32232766
They make vertec 92s in standard black and inox, they're just not advertised well and you basically have to order from beretta.

>>32235206
Because Beretta is fucking up not blueing all their pistols anymore.

>>32232703
> economy
> dindu
They're the DA/SA gun of choice for drive bys and street corner shootings

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I've heard good things about the P7 M13, but I want to know if I'm walking into a trap here.

>>32235392
$150 magazines
Fat as fuck grip that makes the gun uncomfortable for people with large hands and gives it a long trigger reach for people with small hands
Otherwise, good.

>>32235502
I may have fallen victim to TFB TV. I just want something reasonably compact that actually has a modest punch to it.

>>32235357
Of course nogs are gonna use it, they don't have a lot of money, but it's objectively decent for it's price.

>>32235524
And something like the Sig P938 or Glock 43 is no good because....?

>>32235524
Bersa Thunder Plus with Extreme Penetrators

>>32235524
have you considered >>32233822

>>32235524
RAMI

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you should get a .45 .
don't waste your $$ on a useless 9.

>meme thread about meme round
You kids really need to go to bed

>>32235206
captcha issues?

>>32235392
you do realize that's like a 1500-2000 dollar pistol, right?

you need to narrow down your price range and desires.

>>32235712
>i wandered in here from /v/ and have finally mustered up the courage to try my hand at /k/-banter: the post

>>32232560
Is it really worth twice the price? Are there any reliability, performance, or accuracy improvements?

>>32235725
I've never quite understood off-boarders on /k/. It's as niche a board as like, /o/ or /an/ or something.

>>32235725
>>32235939
Not from v bitch
I'm from the real world
9mm is a fucking meme round.
45 is better
5.7 is better
40 is better
380 is better
357 is better
50 ae is better
Fucking 22 is better
Shut up kid or I'll verbally destroy you again

>>32235969
>Not from v bitch
>Shut up kid or I'll verbally destroy you again

4chan is a site for users aged eighteen and over.

>>32235984
>I have aids/10
I'm 36 bitch.
More over, not an argument

>>32236023
36 years old, and yet you type like a 14 year old with behavioral problems.

Off yourself.

>>32235969

contain the autism pls

>>32236040
>implying I care
If i could get my hands on a gun its the first thing I would do

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>>32236052
Rope, heights, bodies of water and train tracks work just as well in lieu of bullets.

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>>32235969
Low effort post tbhfam.

>>32235939
Guns are cool so people like them.
Also they're useful so people like them for that.

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>>32232501
Only one correct answer

>>32236075
True, though I like to think that cars and animals are cool as well.

>>32236071
Brother fell off a cliff and survived. Lost his arms and his ability to walk, not worth it.
Father tried to hang himself, did it wrong and basically fucked himself into a vegetable (something about oxygen starved brain)
Never tried drowning or train tracks though..

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>>32236052

>>32236090
Then perhaps instead of shitposting and acting tough on an Indonesian Basket Weaving Forum's board for Rooty Tooty Point and Shooties, you should be speaking to your doctor about your obvious depression.

>>32236086
Cars are def cool

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>>32236112
So are animals.

>>32236106
I'm high on paint thinner right now anyways.
I though I was on /b/
Whoops

>>32236123
Alot of them, yeah.

>>32232501
do what they sane people who arent trolling said, goto gun store, fondle, handle, and feel up every single handgun you can see, even if it isnt popular.

find one that makes you hand go AHHHHH SENPAI, YOU'RE FILLING ME UP!!! UGGUUUUUUU~~~~~~~

see if there is a range with that gun and try it out.

then buy the fucking thing and shitpost with it.

>>32233949
A FLORIDA MAN.

God I miss living there.

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star bm 1979

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>>32232501
I had an SP-01 for a while. Wish I still did. Awesome piece, super comfortable, 18 round mag.

I've toted an M9 in BDU's, ACU's and now OCP's, and I'll say M9's are a shit gun to have to use. I've seen too many locking blocks break and they're fuck ass huge for a 15 shot 9mm. I'm glad we picked up G19's.

Any good/fun 9mm carbines?

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>>32236244
Yes

>>32236231
92s that aren't beat to shit from years of government service are pretty great actually. The safety/decocker isn't an issue for real-world use because the gun is DA/SA. Really the only practical negatives are

>slide catch can't be operated easily with the shooting hand by folks with smaller hands
>15 rounds is meh capacity for a gun so big (they make higher capacity flush mags now tho)
>you're going to have a hard time if you want to conceal it on your person and aren't wearing a jacket

>>32236278
What's the gun second from the right? Looks sexy

>>32236278
make/model and price? Other non-pictured recommendations? Looking to add a carbine to my armory for cheap low recoil fun.

>>32236278
Is that a Calico I see. I've handled one before, so I've never gotten to fire 50+rounds of 9mm without having to reload, but you probably haven't either...

>>32233536
I have no idea honestly, It's really a tossup between a P30, HK45, or USP9T if I go full sized.

I really want a HK45CT though. I have a ton of .45 ammo but I sold my P220 a while ago and have nothing to put it through.

>>32235036
I'm sorry, I'm just not sexually attracted to boat anchors

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>>32235712
>meme round

go back to/v/ or /a/

>>32235969
oh no guys

>>32236162
Its worth taking shit from the entire planet. They'll never know how based it is living in Florida.

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>>32232501
Bump for also looking for a full size duty 9mm

Hammer fired is a requirement.
Large capacity is a requirement.
Rails are a requirement.
Factory suppressor ready with threaded barrel and raised night sights is a plus.
Available threaded barrels and raised night sights are requirements.

Budget is $800 for the entire pistol with threaded barrel and raised sights.

>>32233968
What other pistols have you shot? How is the trigger?


While we're on this topic:
CZ P-09 Suppressor ready vs P226 with threaded barrel and raised sights?

>>32236715
Not him, but the P-09's trigger is pretty damn good. Either that or the 226 would be a good choice. I'd get the CZ because I prefer the grip and it's a lot cheaper but handle both and see what you prefer.

>>32236715
hk usp tactical if you raise your budget a nip.

>>32236023
youre the dumbest 36 year old i've ever met

>>32236513
damn straight, they all live the salt life, knowing they dont live there.

>>32236913
By a nip you mean 25%?

Giddy from /arg/ has a God-tier FNS. Ask him to post it over there or in here.

I personally like the M&P better, but that's for the next "unpopular opinions" thread.

>>32236368
I am </3
>>32235043
>upgraded trigger job
What, have baby fingers and can't handle a 10 lb DA? You can always get the trigger job later and end up with a gun that has the same price as the Legion.

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>>32235969
>not from v bitch
>9mm is a meme round

>>32237058
shit, both are great, and even though people talk mad shit about them, the XD is a good handgun. my cousin has one, and he loves it. dude grew up a 1911 man, was nothing but steel frame hammer fired guns his whole life. turns 40, tried the XD, and he looked like the man that discovered how to get pussy. 45 minutes later bought a XD, 3 days later got it from the gunshop.

he still loves his 1911's and he has posted a few of his custom carry pieces in 1911 threads here.

he doesnt like the ergos on the glocks, but is thinking of getting an M&P during the oh shit christmas bills season, before tax season.

>>32236715
> full size "duty" 9mm
cuz bigger is better, except in bullet caliber....
> hi capacity magazines
OK
> rails
to slow your draw, hang up on your holster and attach buly useless gadgets youll never use?
> factory suppressor ready and threaded barrel
cuz you have a type 3 FFL of course, so a suppressor wouldnt be an NFA violation....
> budget of $800
ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
dream on.

a sig 226 is good but you wont get all those geegaws for less than a grand

if youre looking for a carry piece in 9mm, get a single stack mid size, of which there are many.
dong get rails, extended and threaded barrels or any of that other frippery. that just slows your draw. it may look tacticool, but it doesnt make your gun better, just slower

learn to shoot and do smooth efficient reloads and you wont need high capacity mags.
the ruger px4 is decent and wont break the bank.

>>32237182
>man that discovered how to get pussy
>3 days later got it from the gunshop

That's not the same man if you ask me.

>>32237219
3 day waiting period hoss.

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>>32237210
>cuz bigger is better, except in bullet caliber....
Gearqueer here looking for a secondary. Prepper here looking for the most common caliber.

>to slow your draw, hang up on your holster and attach buly useless gadgets youll never use?
I will use a light.

>cuz you have a type 3 FFL of course, so a suppressor wouldnt be an NFA violation....
Because I plan to buy a suppressor for it eventually.

>ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
dream on.
The CZ P-09 suppressor ready checks all of my boxes for $550.

>if youre looking for a carry piece in 9mm, get a single stack mid size, of which there are many.
I'm not, that is why I'm asking for a full size duty 9mm. I have a subcompact already.

>>32237240
Let me guess, he follows the "third date rule" too.

kek

>>32237312
his gun shop did. he goes there because his father and grandfather have been going there since the 50's, and they give him family rates on stuff.

>>32237365
What, do you fuck black men just because the women in your family have been?

>>32237483
no i fuck black men because the men in my family do. whats that go to do with the discussion?

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>>32235969

>>32237094
>What, have baby fingers and can't handle a 10 lb DA? You can always get the trigger job later and end up with a gun that has the same price as the Legion.

Don't be retarded. Swapping out the mainspring isn't the only element of a trigger job. If you don't know all the things you're paying for with a Legion Sig, then you have no right to badmouth them.

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I like my M9A3

>>32232501

Tanfoglio is worth a look too. they do some stuff that CZs don't.

>go looking on Gunbroker to buy some cheap 9mm ammo like Tula, Perfecta, Wolf, etc.
>people are bidding on said brands and pushing the prices easily over 25 cents a round
>you can just go to any random ammo seller and buy the same ammo for around 15 cents a round

I don't understand. What the fuck are these people doing?

thinking of buying the hi-point carbine for cheap plinking shit and because I should be able to grab one for christmas for under $300 anyway
good or bad idea? other carbines I should be looking into instead?

>>32238743
Everyone I talk to says they're ugly as fuck, embarrassing to have at the range, and a shitload of fun.

>>32238743

Hi-point in general are pretty durable and work fine, but >>32238756 is right about how fucking ugly they are. At least in my experience, they're a blight to your eyes and feel like they're made out of that Rubbermaid material, but they work.

so would it be better to get a cz-75bd for about $560 or a beretta 92 for 590? both are new.

>>32238810
That's my main gripe, ugly as sin and they look cheap as fuck. Like a dollar store toy some highschool autist engineered to feed real ammo.

>>32238869

I'm definitely biased since I have a fetish for wood like Mosins, Mausers, SKS's, and so on. Still, I've tried out a few Savages and Hi-points, and they all feel like utter shit to me due to the goofy rubber feeling their stocks have. I personally like to have a hefty weight to my guns (from solid wood or steel).

Still, a Hi-point WILL function perfectly fine, so it's better to own a Hi-point than own nothing.

>>32238856
Do you mind frame safeties? Do you not want a safety at all? This is the only thing separating these pistols.

>>32238910
I own several guns, I'm just looking for a 9mm carbine that's not super expensive I can use to throw some rounds down at the local indoor range from time to time.

I'd be looking for a shotgun, but there is nowhere locally I can make good use of it since I'm a single person and would also have to buy my own clay pigeon thrower which would need to also be remote controlled or something.

Sub2k is a cheap 9mm carbine, but good luck finding one.

>>32238934
oh, which do you mean then? I'm interested in a reliable and trustworthy first gun.

>>32238663
they're demonstrating why auctions exist.

Because people are stupid and will overbid on items to prove a point and to spite someone else out of getting what they want. And the auction seller makes a profit.

if people only ever paid wholesale/distributor prices and refused to buy anything on a margin, middlemen/sales people/auctions wouldn't exist.

But people are dumb.
Like me for example. I just bought a BA 16" barrel because it was on sale. I don't need a barrel. My AR works fine with the barrel it has. But the deal was too good, and my ego got the better of me, and now I have to learn how to install an AR barrel.

>>32238663
>>32238968

Shill bidding is a huge problem on Gunbroker.

SD9VE worth?

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>>32235969

>>32232514
Let's wait until it hits gun store shelves.

>Everyone I've seen had nothing but rave reviews so far.
That's because it has only been shown to a few paid reviewers so far. The Remington R51 "looked really good" before it was released too.

None, the round is for weaklings.

>>32232514
"improving on perfection"

Kek, well done CZ. Well done.

>>32238952
I mean its up to you to decide wether you want a safety/decocker on the slide or a decocker only on the frame. If the former, beretta. If the latter, cz

I bought a FNS-9 and later bought a FNS-9c. The compact is the perfect size. Both are well balanced and very easy to conceal

>>32239143
is it personal preference or a potential liability to have it on the slide as opposed to the frame?

>>32233976
>>32234006
>>32234046
Please post more Wilson beretta, I put my order in a week before Thanksgiving so hopefully I'll get mine in the next back order restock

>>32239165
In my opinion its a non issue. Then again i don't carry a beretta and don't know if it really impedes draw like people say(I dont see how it would). As far as being hard to manipulate? Ive never had a problem with it and I've been shooting my dad's fs for 11 years. At the same time i carry two frame mount non decocker pistols as a preference. So idk if my opinion matters.

For the record, i also am looking for a full size 9mm pistol and am between the same two pistols and the s&w model 59 which also has a slide mounted safety/decocker, and im leaning towards the smith based on price.

>>32239337
hmm. well I may just get the cz cause its a little less expensive.
whats the general consensus here on dudes that put guns on layaway?

>>32236294
Wilkinson Arms Linda carbine

>>32239393
Didn't know that was a thing

>>32233057
Is it like real life Csgo? One taps?

>>32236278
>calico
my buddy had a fat rubbery hardon for that gun in the 90's. he's dead now (dont drink and drive kids) but i know his fat ass would have gotten one.

Sig P226

>>32232647
Good luck actually getting your hands on one. It's either a waiting game until a retailer gets one in stock, or being ready to fight the bid war when one pops up on Gunbroker.

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So /k/ talk me out of going into my lgs tomorrow and paying $469 before tax on a new CZ75 Compact.

>>32240862
It's not a full size? Idk bretty good choice.

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>>32240870
Nope it's a compact, full size 75B is a little big for me to cc
Nothing like cocked and locked full steel at your side.

>>32240944
>Nothing like cocked and locked full steel at your side.

I take it you've never carried a gun before. The CZ 75 Compact is heavy as fuck. There are lots of full size guns that are significantly lighter than this thing. If you just like how compacts handle at the range, then that's a great pistol to buy. If you want a daily carry, though, do yourself a favor and pick up a P-01 or P-07 instead. There's a big difference in weight and you will notice it when carrying it.

>>32235732
I feel the action was improved, thinner grip makes it easier to manage recoil... the sights are an impovement.

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>>32240862
No. Do it

>>32240992
I've been found out.
But your right, just an overexcited 21 year old in a constitutional carry state.

Altough I am used to carrying a large load on my belt as I'm an industrial automation guy who carrys way more tools than he needs. Probably 5 pounds worth.

>>32240992
Not him but i carry a RAMI with a 12 round mag and thats less than 5 oz lighter and i carry it every day along with a pocket pistol. And I'm a manlet. Maybe don't be such a diva.

>>32241062
>and thats less than 5 oz lighter
It's too late at night for me to look up the numbers, but that can't be right. I would expect more like a 10 ounce weight difference or more. When I used to own a CZ 75 Compact, the thing was noticeably heavier than a full size USP45. Either the RAMI is way heavier than it has any business being, or the numbers are off.

>>32241081
Compact: 32.8 oz
CZ 2075 RAMI: 25.9 oz
CZ75 B: 35.2 oz
9mm USP: 26.4
Glock 17: 25.06

All measurements are unloaded

Whatta know plastic guns are lighter

>>32241119
USP 45: 27.8 oz

>>32241119
>Whatta know plastic guns are lighter
If I remember right, the Hi Power is also lighter than the CZ 75 Compact. It's a really, really heavy compact pistol.

>>32241146
They're the same weight, around 32 oz

>>32241172
I sold me CZ 75 Compact, but I remember weighing them and the Hi Power was lighter.

>>32241179
Hey I'll take your measurements over my internet search ones.

So you think I should just go full bore and cc a full size then?

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Anyone have any experience with the Bersa Thunder 9 Compact or Bersa in general? I was looking for a CC and it seems to have everything going for it. Full ambi is also nice bonus for me.

>>32241204
You're retarded.

FNX 9
Sphinx which is way over your budget BUT you can get night sights and a threaded barrel, plus a magnificent trigger and it uses CZ75 mags.Skele has one too.
226/229

>>32241203
No, I think >>32240992

>>32233045
Buying a used USP9 with the 18rd mag and magwell for $500 soon. Picked it up and fell in love.

>>32232514
Stop shilling for your stupid striker fired piece of shit that you don't even own, holy shit. Every fucking thread about handguns, "HEY DID YOU CONSIDER THE FUCKING CZ GLOCK?" It's absurd. Get off my board.

>>32235969
>hunter
>fucking hunter thread

>>32239007
/k/ doesn't like them but I love mine. Excellent Glock knockoff

>>32241625
>/k/ doesn't like them
I see lots of people here talk about how they're good as economy guns.

They're basically on the same tier as the Ruger P85, it's not great, but for what you pay for it, it's actually pretty nice all things considering.

>>32236331
All depends on what you are into. Most rifles beat the shit out of a pcc but I like them for ease of use and ammo. Ease of use...I can take someone who has never shot before and have them shooting a pcc really well.
No recoil not loud all around fun guns.
>>32236335
I have a 100 round drum too. So I've never fired 100 rounds either. Jk this one does really well. Mags are always the issue though. They have clutches that wear out over time. Learning your individual mags preferred number of cranks is the bitch
>>32239475
Actually the terry carbine. I have no fucking clue why my rifle is a terry when it's identical to the linda. Same maker but I guess he had a stroke the day he needed to engrave mine
>>32239948
I love 80s shit. Sorry about your friend.

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>>32239207
You're going to love it anon.

>dat recessed crown.

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>>32239207
>>32242226

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>>32242230
>>32242226
>>32239207
You might have trouble finding holsters, its not a Brig because of rail, its not a railed 92 because brig slide is wider... let alone if you put a light on it. But JM custom kydex did a sexy bang up job. I ordered another one without the light in case I wanted to run it a little lighter.

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>>32234079
They jam

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>>32242238
>>32242226
>>32242230
I have their OWB 2 w/ surefire x300u. Hugs muh body so tight the weapon feels weightless. Its an easy way to CC in cold Michigan winters.

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>>32242258
>>32242238
>>32242230
>>32242226
Final one, I won't wanna spam muh gun that much.

Anyone have experience with baby eagle 3's? I'd love to carry a full 941 but if it's too much for me one of these would be my next choice, minus that rail

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>>32242306
forgot pic

>>32242243
Stop limpwristing or stop using promags.

its a good looking gun.....

get something bigger

>>32242361
Didn't click the picture/10

>>32241454
Wuuut?!

That's a steal anon! Tread carefully no1 owns one h&k. before u know it youll be standing@FFL handing over obscene amounts of cash on next purchase.

If ya dont already have 1k rounds on hand order now. Youll be shooting more than ever it just feels soo right.

Congrates and post pics ya lucky /k/unt!

Dear Berretafags

How do you justify the safety also being a decocker(either safety stays off or your first round must be heavy trigger pull)?

For this reason alone I prefer the H&K USP9 in a landslide. The reduced recoil spriing tech also allows you to make it a .45 if you want OHK power if you prefer that over a no-recoil 9mm.

>>32242975
I mean how many different ways do you carry? If its on me it's cocked and locked. I don't carry a beretta 92 but I don't think a safety decocker is the end of the world or even a real inconvenience.

>>32242226
>>32242230
>>32242238
>>32242258
>>32242266
Thanks anon, I live in NJ so no CC for me, just a nice range toy

>>32243372

>I live in NJ

My condolences.

>>32243311
So you have to either DA your first shot or cock the hammer before firing?

That's essentially my complaint.

>>32236936
Unrelated, but try posting on arfcom sometime.

>>32243410
On a beretta yeah, but the da pull isnt bad. If you'reso worried about it then dont get one.

>>32243614
DA pull is always bad when compared to the SA pull

>>32235712
No, this thread isn't about .40 s&w.

>>32243392
It's not all bad here, I could be living in NYC for my job

>>32243670
True but its top tier among da pulls

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>>32232501
If striker-fired isn't a deal breaker, I've heard great things about the Canik TP9 SF. Personally I have a Norinco 213, a Chicom Tokarev clone chambered in 9mm for some reason. I like it a lot, especially for the 200 bucks I paid for it, but they're fairly uncommon and aren't anything special.

i put money down on a cz-75 sp01 today. think it was a good idea?

>>32244560
Don't see why not unless you put too much down.

>>32244716
its on layaway...put 100 down on it though. it was 629 for it+tax

>>32244731
Good price.

>>32240862
Do it, and put night sights on it.

>>32242258
>no retaining clip

Have fun getting shot with your own gun anon.

>>32245880
the cz75 sp01 I'm getting has night sights . breddy gud, no?

If you're looking at CZs definitely have a look at Jerichos, in Canada they're proper cheap and feel pretty good. If you can live with the slide safety, which I'm sure you can considering you're looking at berettas, it's a good buy

>>32241549
>only buys ww2 era 45s

>>32245986
Very good.

>>32246180
I like all sorts of handguns, I'm just sick of that faggot shilling for a gun that isn't even out yet in every fucking handgun thread.

60 days from today is feb 5. I could have it paid in between 3 and 4 payments of 150. would be close but I could do that I think.

are there any tips or anything to be mindful of with a new firearm?

>>32235392
what's so special about this gun besides rarity.

>>32234725
What kind of baseplate is that?

>>32232559
Pictured M9A3 isn't pigfat, has vertec grips. Fits most hands a whole lot better. I have 92FS already and the M9A3 on order.

>>32232630
Safety position doesn't bother me at all. I actually really like it. That said M9A3 has the safety levers angled up if you're one of those fags who think they'll accidentally engage the safety when racking the slide.

I've been shooting the 92FS for 10 years and have never done that. Also, even if your mongoloid hands somewhow did that, why would you ever carry the gun in a situation where you need it with an empty chamber?

All 92/M9 series guns have a SA/DA trigger that can be carried safety off, as well.

>>32235732
It's an M9 that's been finely tuned. If you wanted to turn a regular M9 or an M9A1 into a M9A3 you'd spend a bunch.

Threaded barrel, removable night sights, Vertec grip, beveled mag well, new coating on magazines that resist sand, repositioned safety levers, 3 slot rail, G series springs, plus a sick paint job.

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Anyone own/used an Arex Zero 1 yet? They look pretty cool, kinda like a Sig and CZ mixed together or something

>>32246672
one thing i didn't notice til I remembered about the model I have is that the might not be any kind of safety on the sp-01. its just a decocking lever, i guess.

>>32246709
more like Sig x M&P desu

>>32241242
FNX 9 doesn't readily have a threaded barrel option.

The Sphinx isn't full size.

I've already listed the P226.
Thank you though.

>>32241454
Hell of a deal.

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>>32236715


>>32246709
>Sig and a CZ mixed together.
I think you mean just a sig...

>>32246517
Compact and gas-delayed blowback.

What 9mm ammo should I use in a full size handgun? I was looking at either critical duty 135gr or gold dot 124gr. Any other suggestions would be great.

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>>32232559
>>32232560
Just shot my new 92FS for the first time today , loved it.

>>32246496
Be careful

>>32246588
Pearce Grip +2 magazine extension for Beretta/226/Hi-Power

>>32242975
???
You can thumbcock the hammer if you feel like it. If you're in a situation where you have to draw and shoot immediately with the DA trigger, you're probably within a distance that it doesn't matter much

>>32246984
heh yeah, other than that, I mean. like how you're supposed to baby a brand new engine for the first 5-10k miles

>>32247063
Oil it up and put 450+ of BRASS through it to get those tolerances smoothed out.

>>32247137
its coming with oil on the gun, and kinda soaked into the foam in the box. should I try and let that dry? where can I read up on like a 'so you finally got off your ass and purchased a weapon? here's how to take care of it so it will last, dipshit' kind of guide?

>>32247137
oh, but I won't get it til I finish paying for it and get done with the various background checks in the states. so, in a month or two.

>>32235152
Should be a ghost inox 92.

>>32247208
Its called a users manual and comes in the box.

>>32247396
oh, rad. I'll def read it when I get it.

>>32234747
He probably saw homosexuals using them.

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>>32240862
As someone who owns both a full size 75 and a compact, I agree completely with this guy>>32240992
Even though it's smallish, it's a hefty girl. To me, it's waaay less comfortable than a full size. For a nightstand/range gun I'd get a full size. For carry, CZs lighter polymer framed options would definitely be better.
But really, you can get pretty nice Pre-B's for around $350. I just picked up one the other week at the trigger is to die for. You should check those out if you're thirsty for CZs.

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>>32247813

>>32232530
>from what i hear the marines r readopting the 1911
Shut the fuck up and leave. This is an 18+ board, and retards are considered children.

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I have the Glock 19 right now as my concealed carry pistol. I love it to bits but the lack of a safety really does bother me more then I thought. To the point I don't carry with one in the pipe.

Was thinking about the Beretta Px4 Storm compact or subcompact. If I could shave off a bit of gun and only lose 2 rounds but have a manual safety and a healthy DA trigger pull I'd feel much more comfortable concealing around my family and friends.

Any one who owns them got some input between the compact and subcompact?

>>32248552
The problem is you.

>>32248666
My holster aims the barrel of the weapon directly across from the person I am sitting from. If it were to go off for some kind of 1/100000 reason and hurt someone I could never forgive myself. What is wrong with wanting an extra safety mechanism on a weapon that can end somebodies life? In all likelihood I will carry it for 50 years and never have to actually draw. Accidental discharge is much more important then having to thumb a lever during a draw.

>>32241939
he died as he lived, fat and in desperate search of a woman with as low a set of standards as him. At least he didnt go out like his dad did, like one of those diabetic walmart mobility scooter fatfucks.

>>32248715
Why would it go off in your holster? Get a grasp of mechanics/engineering/physics and chill the fuck out.

>>32248802
>Why would it go off in your holster?
Honestly? There is no good reason it ever would. Still why risk it for a 1/170th of a second faster trigger pull? Pull drawing from a holster in a stressful and dangerous situation doesn't always go perfectly. It is entirely possible to accidentally pull the cocked trigger of a glock if you fumble the draw.

This is a concealed carry piece. Not a duty pistol that will be in a rigid retention holster outside the waistband and easily manipulated.

>>32243372
my family that moved to florida all laugh at the rest still up there. just the costs of owning a business in NJ are retarded, and border on extortion.

bought a ton of old WW2 canuck 9mm not too long ago, what's the deal with this shit?

it's just in unmarked boxes full of the fucking things

is it worth anything?

>>32248829
If you're worried about your draw it's because you haven't practiced it sufficiently. Again, the problem is you and your lack of familiarity and training with your weapon.

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>>32248911
I have 3 nephews and sit across from people quite often throughout my day. I don't want to carry a weapon that will fire without some kind of additional action besides pulling the trigger.

Nigger what is so hard to get about this? Buying the Glock was a mistake. I am asking if anyone has some feedback on the Px4 compact and subcompact. I don't need a lesson on why I should just carry hot when my priorities are more about safety then dead killy perfection.

What's a good metal-framed 9mm with ambi controls?

Or at the very least an ambi/reversible mag release?

>>32247813
I'll keep my eye on the used market.
So did you pick up the pre-b private party or find it at a store.

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>>32248951
Please stop posting and just go do whatever makes you feel good man.

>I have 3 nephews
>I have 3 nephews
>I have 3 nephews

>>32248996
I am trying. Which is why I am asking questions about the two pistols I have my eye on. I mention the kids because they like to jump and grapple me when they visit. I become a living jungle gym so the discharge of a hot glock is on my mind.

>>32235712
>everything is a meme

Sometimes i wonder why I even come here.

The 9mm is my favorite round.
It is a tapered round. Shaped like a cone, it is nearly impossible to get a failure to eject in all guns except the SIG SAUER line of pistols.
The magazine of the mp5 is curved making it a banana clip. It is curved because the 9mm is cone shaped. If the 9mm weren't cone shaped, the mp5 would not have a banana clip. This is why the 9mm is so awesome.
The FBI recently switched back to 9mm because it is superior to the .40cal. The FBI used 10mm but it was too powerful so they switched to .40cal and now they are switching again to 9mm.
9mm parabellum means to prepare for war.
>Si vis pacem, para bellum
How cool is that?! I don't see any cool latin phrases after .45acp.

If I were going to get a 9mm Luger Parabellum designed in 1902 by a German accountant named George, then I'd want a gun designed by a German accountant named George. Unfortunately his descendants left the company and married into the American Busch beer family. The closest you're going to get is an HK. So that's what I'd do, is spend $1,000 to get a plastic gun made in Ulm by German Accountants that while technically aren't any better than Glocks, will at least be most true to the over 100 year old 9x19mm.

>>32249155
Don't ever come here with that weak bait again.

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>>32248552
I've got the full-size Px4 and really like it. I've never shot the compact or subcompact though. I'm thinking about getting the subcompact for carry myself. I'll carry the full size in cold weather like this, my only complaint is the batwing safety can really dig into your side sometimes if you don't have a shirt between you and the gun.

>>32249351
>SIG owner detected.
You can't dispute a single point made.

>>32248951
The compact has the rotating barrel, the subcompact uses a modified Browning lock up.

>>32249826
Does the rotating barrel really dampen recoil as much as it suggests or is it just a neat beretta feature?

>>32249847
Don't know, never shot one, but if the rotating barrel is important to you, then get the compact.

A full size Px4 is on my short list of future gun purchases.

>>32232501
Get the Beretta.
Feel great, look great, function great, fun to shoot.
Want to get one myself after putting a shit ton of rounds through a rented one.
>inb4 shill

>>32232627

I already bought my surplus M4 from my LGS they forgot to remove the auto sear and my FFL just winked and said to keep it on the DL.

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>>32248986
Found it at Gander Mountain, although CDI Sales normally has a ton of them on Gunbroker.
I overpaid a little for mine, but I had my heart set on a blued finish and at the time there weren't any online.
It's by far my favorite handgun to shoot.

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>>32250209
I'm not Australian I swear.

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>>32249984
Ill take things that never happened for 500

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>>32250209
Mfw looking through CDI sales stock

No reason any poor fag /k/ommando should be without a pistol.

>>32236715
Sorry for the late reply. This CZ is my duty weapon. The trigger pull is great and it's an overall very comfortable weapon. I've shot too many to name, but some recently have been Glock17,19,and a 43 and those all feel the same to me. I definitely am more comfortable with the cz

Beretta is great don't let anyone scare you away from them. But CZ is gonna be on my hip for a long time. Until I can use an FN 5.7

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>>32250209
How's this one look for $365?

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>>32251760

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>>32251769

>>32251760
shit, just noticed there isn't a buy now button for that one.

>>32251760

I'd look at these two first:
http://www.gunbroker.com/item/604090740
http://www.gunbroker.com/item/603183874

Or wait a week for them to put more stock up for sale. For some reason, the selection is a little sparse right now. They have more, just wait for them to add the auctions.

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>>32251760
Not too bad. The thing about these surplus pistols is that while the exterior might be a little rough, the bore is usually flawless.

The buy it now for this one is $350, it looks a little cleaner.

>>32249041
How much do you want a pistol with a manual safety as opposed to just a pistol that's a lot safer than the Glock is?

Because if you get a PX4 Compact Type-G, the gun is DA/SA with the safety/decocker converted to a decock-only. The long double action first shot is a surer bet against any of the kinds of accidents that you described than a manual safety. Additionally, the decock-only lever prevents you from accidentally putting the gun on safe when you rack the slide or from accidentally leaving the gun on safe when you go to decock it.

>>32248986
You could watch local sales as well, ie Armslist. Might find a good deal on something newer and cosmetically cleaner for not much more money. You can always disable the firing pin block on a B model.

>>32251927
Armslist in my state is garbage
It's full of overpriced shit and people that require you to have a ccw to buy from them. Not to mention that almost all the sellers are over two hours away.
I guess I'll do another round of the local stores and pawnshops then buy online if I can't find anything.

>>32251902
Oh godammit. The Beretta Storm's don't lock the slide when in safety or at lease disengage if it is racked? Why put in a feature that can easily mislead the user as to the fire readiness of the weapon?

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>>32233045
>>32233057
>>32241454
USP, well all you guys are in good company.

>>32252032
I think >>32251902 is talking about accidentally putting the gun on safe while racking, since the lever is on the slide. The decocker only model avoids this issue, since hitting the lever would just put you in DA.

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>>32233976
>>32242226
>>32242230
>>32242238
>>32242258
Mirin' never really was into Beretta's but that's very nice.

>>32234709
>In a lesser bracket of guns, you have things like the Walther PPQ, Glocks, and all of the other Glock knock-offs.

How big a difference is there between those brands and the ones mentioned initially?

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>>32232560
>>32238476
You two are really ruining the whole "me being the only person on /k/ who owns an M9A3" thing. Bastards.

Nice choice in handguns, though.

But >>32238476, you really fucked yours up with that fat fag grip. I don't care if it comes with the gun, it's not on the gun for a reason.

>>32236278
God I regret not getting a Suomi when Centerfire had em for $399. Wonder if getting a kit and building it/having it built would be worth it.

My buddy is pretty good at building Uzi's. It would be a neat SBR I think. Wood stock or the folding?

>tfw have a CZ-P09
>tfw regrets it

FUGGGG.

>>32249155
>hk
>not objectivity better than glock

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>>32232501
My 92A1 with walnut half-checkered grips

>>32232501
Everyone recommending any sort of M9 variant is a fucking tard that's never been in a gun fight. It's heavy, has a long trigger pull for the first shot, and has limited ammo capacity compared to non shit pistols. If you want to carry a gun for the aesthetics get a Hi Power or a 1911. If you want a tool for self-defense get a Glock.

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>>32253505
Thanks for your service. I'm sure your very familiar with this weapons system due to firing it in one of your many gunfights.

if you want the most functional 9mm handgun money can buy, get a glock 19. Everyone here knows it's the best, whether or not they'll admit it. If you care about a certain aesthetic, then go with whatever catches your eye.

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A nice P210 with Nill grips

>>32253505
>and has limited ammo capacity
They have 18rd flush mags you fucking cocksucker. Not that you aren't wrong on everything else.

>>32248893
Nope. And its corrosive so it's definitely worth less than new production.

Check to make sure it isnt steel jacketed or cored. That would also effect the value.

>>32253505
I agree with this. M9 is only popular because of Lethal Weapon and muh hollowed slide

>>32252506
The difference is that with HK, Beretta and CZ, you can be confident that your purchase won't be defective from the factory. With Sig, there are some clouds, but the build quality makes up for it. With the tupperware guns, you do occasionally run into problems with build quality, consistency of quality control, design flaws and so forth. That said, the PPQ is a luxury pistol, for a tupperware gun.

>>32255929
So you agree with the objectively retarded post?

>>32255992
Yes, I agree. If it wasn't for Mel Gibson this gun wouldn't be so popular

>>32255942
Tupperware is meme.

>>32256944
It's objectively a good pistol though, regardless of Lethal Weapon

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>>32255929
I guess John Woo had nothing to do with the popularity. When I was a kid growing up I could swear they were in every action movie, Woo's especially. Link and pic very related.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hW8Ik-U4T5g

>>32258056
I've never seen a woo. I don't know anyone who has either.

>>32255942
Thanks