Guns you love that /k/ loves to hate: More then 6 replies edition

>>32212476

Does /k/ really hate M14s? I thought they only hated M1As

I fucking love M14s Aimpoints

>>32212476
This and the Auto-5

>hurr hurr ure a fudd xd

>>32213600
No, who on earth would hate the M14?

>>32213671
The hordes of ARmanlets bitching about the weight.

>>32213663
You have got to be fucking kidding me. How the fuck can you hate the Auto 5?

>>32213685
>People bitch about the weight
Its not even that heavy lmao

>>32213600
the only reason why /k/ hates M1As is because of my cast receiver and price point

I love PSLs but hate every single fucker out there who tries to sell it as a true dragunov with a price point of $2k+

>>32213695
>How the fuck can you hate the Auto 5?
If you're one of those day/k/are codkiddies, which there are a lot of.

>>32213719
What's wrong with the price point? Are they charging too much for a cast receiver?

>>32213695
>how the fuck can you hate the Auto 5?
By never going goose hunting? I don't understand it either, I've had no issues with mine.

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>>32213719
Yeah I have to admit SAI overcharges for the M1A. I would rather spend the money and get a Fulton or a JRA/Rock-Ola. Or explore a cave in Vietnam and get a Winchester

>tfw no Winchester M14
>tfw no Taiwanese T57

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>>32213771
Why doesn't Winchester sell M-14s?

>>32213739
its a user problem with them, they leave the brass ring in the heavy load position and complain when it jams on skeet rounds

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>>32213794
>Winchester
>relevant
I want to go back

>>32213685
Bull dingus. Read reviews from actual military that had to use M14s. They are a huge maintenance pain in the ass from what a lot of people say. Yes I'm sure someone has their grandpa's M14 that's been running perfectly forever. Welcome to statistics 101.

>>32213977
Its literally a more reliable and easier to service Garand.
The AR is superior as a service rifle in most regards but the M14 isn't obnoxiously heavy or unreliable. Also it looks way cooler.

I actually like the Sig 226.

>>32213794
No demand

>>32213977
>Bull dingus. Read reviews from actual military that had to use M14s
tbqh every Vietnam Vet I have ever talked to preferred the M14 to the M16.
>inb4 Soldiers opinion about their weapon doesnt matter
>>32214019
The AR is superior as a service rifle in most regards but the M14 isn't obnoxiously heavy or unreliable.
This

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M14 is a sweetie. I need to find a non shit receiver for mine

>>32214123
Is that the Winchester M14 that was posted in a thread a few days ago? If its I envy you so fucking much.

>>32214123
I just plan on shooting my Springfield to death, then salvaging the match trigger pack and getting a Fulton

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>>32214159

The rifle itself is Springfield. The receiver was just a Winchester.

>>32214302
You could go all gucci with the LRB M14s. They're actually forged.

>>32214320
>LRB M14s
>$859 fucking dollaridoos for a goddamn actual forged M14 receiver
Jesus christ, I thought CNC machines were supposed to help out with this shit.

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>>32214320
Re-Weld that fucking receiver god damn it

>>32214358
I'm trying. Finding a nose section is fucking impossible.

>>32214341
Their normal rifles are around 2500 clams. They're probably the boutique Ar15 dealer of the M14s.

>>32214062
My father trained with an M14 but once he arrived in Nam he was given an Ithaca M37 (it was ancient, it sucked, and it almost killed him on one occasion) and later a CAR-15.

He said the M14 was an alright rifle, but it was too heavy for him when you took a full combat load of ammo into account, plus he couldn't hit shit with its full auto setting.

In the field, the people who did prefer them could use them to good effect. Evidently, they were useful for cutting down banana trees for lunch since their 7.62 real fucking NATO ammo would make short work of soft banana wood.

His favorite gun was his CAR, followed by his M79, then the M14 and the M60, then the M37 (or at least his shitty one). Since he was in the war early on, he also saw a few M1 Carbines and one staff sergeant he knew insisted on carrying an M3 Grease Gun.

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>>32214453
I had a family friend who almost had the exact opposite reaction. He trained on an M14 and was given an M16. He said he had it for about a year before he was able to get an M14 off of someone. He said he didnt hate the M16 but that the M14 worked better for him and most of the people in his Platoon. The one thing he did appreciate about the M16 is how much ammo you could lug around in the Jungle. He was always saying he carried way more ammo for his M14 then he did for his M16 tho.

The M14 just never got a chance to shine until it was too late. At 10-12lbs loaded and 3 feet in length, it's probably one of the worst weapons to be used in a dense jungle environment like most of the US combat operations took place in during that time frame.

>>32214453
>carrying an M3 Grease Gun.
What's the deal with this, can soldiers(in the USM) just carry around whatever shit they owe or find? I would think a government department would be obsessed with standardization

>>32212476
I like the FiveseveN.

It's an innovative design and fulfills the demands it was designed to meet extremely well. Those who hate it can't wrap their heads around the idea of a gun not designed for the civilian carry market, or can't afford one.

>>32214758
The Muhrines used grease guns until Gulf War.

>>32214758
Typically a unit's armory will be authorized X amount of weapons of different types.

My last unit before i lickety split had:

about 150 M16A2s (Some with m203s), 2 .50 M2, 1 Mk19, 1 M9, 20ish M2492, 4 240B.

After that its supposed to be issues as per the unit roster, but when its just the LTs and the commanders who can say otherwise odd things happen.

Deployed you just have to request different weapons and you'll usually get them if you'll reasonably need them. We had a few shotguns we gained while over and whatever the Remington rifles are called.

Of course it was different around NAM era.

>>32214510
My father was light infantry, so they had to hump all their gear everywhere they went with absolutely no kind of vehicles aside from helicopters to drop them off here and there. Weight meant a lot to him, since he had to carry all his gear, plus his weapon, plus his ammo, plus everyone carried a belt for the M60s. Ammo weight was a deal breaker for him.

>>32214758
My dad was Army, and things worked a little different in Vietnam than they do now. From what I gather, your superiors would ensure that there were the mandatory amount of M60s and M79s sprinkled around, but aside from that as long as you outranked the armorer you could take what you want. Of course usually they just had M16s, M60s, M79s and maybe a few M14s and M37s sprinkled here and there, but sometimes you'd see older stuff like M1 Carbines or Grease Guns, or even rarer still were guns brought in from private owners from the US. Usually the people who carried the older weapons were either fobbits or Korean War vets who couldn't break old habits.

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>>32214957
I talked to a vet who was in Korea and Vietnam. Mother fucker carried around an M1 Garand until 1972 when he got out.

Given how miserable the QC was at every armory making M-14s, I wonder how well the FAL's design would have fared under the drunken mitts of 1960s manufacturing.

>>32214791
The 5-7 is a cool gun, def want to get one

>>32214850
There is a picture of DEVGRU with an M3 in Afghanistan

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>>32212476
Think I want one for xmas

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>>32216583
I fucking love my 92F.

>>32213671
Anyone who has ever had to carry one and it's ammo farther than from their parked car onto the range.

>>32216638
You are just mad because you cant make good puns

>>32216638

Guy who never figured out how to snag an edge of his rifle onto his LBE belt to take the load off detected.

>>32213600
we dont hate the m14 or m1a, its just expensive and objectively the worst of the popular battle rifles on the market.

>>32216680

lol
I bet you copied your opinion off of Ian from forgotten weapons.

>>32216732
see, this is why people shit on the m1a. mad m1a fags just cant accept the obvious and documented truth. i dont even watch forgotten weapons.

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>>32216638
Pic related.

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>>32214758
Some folk even carried Thompsons in 'Nam

>>32216767

I don't own an M14, nor do I plan to, nor do I want one.
Though I can tell from your post that you know jack shit about it, and just got your opinion from someone else.

>>32216827
ive got a garand in .308, which is pretty close. that said, i dont need to own a ras47 to know its garbage. ive just got to read the reviews and watch the videos that tell me it shits itself in under 1000 rounds to know ill never buy one. and ive just got to look at the price tag of an m1a and compare it to its contemporaries to know id rather have an ar-10, fal, or even ptr.

>>32216906

I must have missed all the reviews from GIs in early Vietnam saying their M14s are garbage then.

>>32216925
yes, you must have

https://looserounds.com/2015/01/30/the-m14-not-much-for-fighting-a-case-against-the-m14-legend/

>>32216968

>no source other than "the hitch report", a document that doesn't seem to exist on the internet
Even if it did, the statistics presented are obviously retarded.
You also failed to address my point.

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>>32216968
>tfw people talk shit about your raifu

>>32216999
> the statistics presented are obviously retarded.
pottery

>You also failed to address my point.
you missed the quotes from the usmc marksman.

>>32217070

Remind me again why I should take information with no source posted on a gun blog seriously?

>>32217090
because its much easier to just accept that you bought an outdated gun thats easy to jam, inaccurate, hard to accurize, extremely hard to keep accurized, and expensive compared to its contemporaries than it is to have this argument every time someone says something you dont like about a gun you supposedly dont have any interest in.

>>32217142

lol alright.
Guess I'll go sell the M14 I don't own so I don't have to argue with autists on 4chan.

>>32217151
i didnt say it wasnt worth owning, just that its objectively a worse design than comparable battle rifles

>>32215120
That's hardcore.

>>32216638
I will take a battle rifle or a semi auto shotgun for a five mile hike in the woods with a few mags of ammo no problem. Maybe you're just a spaghetti armed manlet?

My Glock 20.
10mm is a man's caliber and Glocks are fine.

>>32214019
As someone who has an M14, M16 and M4 I can tell you hands down I'd take the m4 over the rest in about any engagement.

If I knew I'd have to use it as a club I'd take them m14, maybe if I was doing overwatch id take a scoped m14 but. Then if that's the role an M107 would be my pick.

>>32213727
Or protecting your insecurities, people love anything crafted by the hands and mind of John Moses Browning, peace be upon him, only gripe people have is that they are a little involved in terms of cleaning and take down.

>>32217234
why M4 over M16?

>>32217351
Lighter and shorter.

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>>32212476
KSG

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>>32214320
ayyyyy

>>32217355
What about muzzle velocity? I understand why you would a short carbine in an urban environment, but inna woods?

>>32218389
>Be innawoods
>Can't see more than 100 yards in front of me before winter
>Still can't see that far ahead because so thick
Maybe if you're operating innafield

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>>32217419
I know this feel all too well.

>>32212476
>The M14 is cute.
The M14 was a mistake. But sometimes mistakes can be cute (pic related)

>>32213671
Anyone who's mindset isn't stuck in WWII. Don't get me wrong, the M14 was hands down the best service rifle for WWII. The only problem is that it came about 20 years late.

>>32213695
>Its not even that heavy lmao
It's not the weight of the rifle so much as the weight of the ammunition. But there's no reason why the rifle shouldn't have been lighter, except
>muh wood n steel
>muh .30 cal
>muh traditional stock
The M14 is the Fuddiest service rifle ever

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>>32219850
>(pic related)
fuck me

>>32217181
This argument is retarded and so are you for making it.

If you can hump a battle rifle and ammo just fine, then you can hump EVEN MORE ammo for an assault rifle. It's like tards who try to excuse giant swords by saying the swordsman is super strong. If he really was that superhuman, he could use a normal sword and be waaaaay faster and more offensive.

>>32219888
Uppote is shit.

>>32220011
So's your spelling, dicklock

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VP70z.

I think it's cool looking and, while the trigger is undeniably shit, it's fun to shoot.

/k/ hates it, though. :'(

>>32217201
Saying that your gun or in this case, caliber is "manly" is fucking cringeworthy.
Your gun and/or choice of caliber has nothing to do with manhood.

>>32220326
>getting this triggered over somebody talking about manliness
sup tumblr

>>32220354
>implying that actually manly people feel the need to talk about how manly they are
sup insecure faggot

>>32216801

I thought the Stocks were non-removeable after the M1?

>>32220377
I'm not him.
I fucking hate glawks.

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They're pretty sweet if you can get them cheap.

>>32220399
>Fudd defends insecure wannabe alpha behavior
In other news, water is wet and the Russian Navy sucks.

>>32220458
There is no need to be upset, friend.

>>32220484
>I couldn't think of something clever so I'll just repeat a meme lol xDDD

>>32220503
>I'll keep replying because I take things on an anonymous anime imageboard seriously

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>>32219888
>>32220011
>>32220044
>trips
>double trips dub dubs
Damn son

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>>32219888
>>32220888
>two 888 in one thread
161616
WHAT DOES THIS MEAN KEK?

>>32213794
>Why doesn't Winchester sell M-14s?

Because FN owns Winchester (and Browning, and Miroku) and they have no interest whatsoever to bring back old relics while they could be selling new SCARs instead?

>>32214871
We had some dead McHaj ak47s in the armory during my tenure in the land of sand. trades with turk commandos kept some 7.62x39 in stock.

>>32220934
You know the MPX interests me a lot as PCC guy, but, at the end of the day it's really just a more high priced AR9. It doesn't have the boner popping like a UMP/MP5, isn't cheap like an entry level AR9, doesn't have well established mags, and the price tag is up there with an MP5. I really do want to like her.

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>>32221050

The selling point is that it's a piston driven SMG, and with that you'd think it'd suppress nicely. However, it seems that the MPX kicks back A LOT of gas at the shooter when suppressed.

That's just weird...

Damn shame.

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>>32221069
What a shame.

>>32221092

I'm told some suppressors have less gas blowback, but still. There's been plenty of issues with the MPX, enough to make me want to pass.

>>32217419
Kel-tec is the king of good ideas executed less than perfectly. If they can ever get the kinks out of their QC worked out they'll be a popular brand, because they've got some amazing ideas and a lot of cool, novel concepts. I didn't even know how badly I wanted a bullpup until I tried the RFB.

>>32221241

Nothing they do is actually novel. They borrow ideas from older designs and then turn it into a new concept.
That said, they travel off the beaten path, by bringing out things that are unconventional.

>>32216906
I have an M1A and a friend has an AR10 and a PTR, I've shot all three and the M1A is objectively the better shooting of them. Am I jealous he got two funs for the price of my one? Sure, but I'm about to buy a Galil ACE once my store gets one.

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>>32218347
How about a gore warning next time shitlord

#triggered

>>32214384
They are. I have one and it's the fucking tits. It'll outshoot any Springfield any day

>>32221764
what did he mean by this?

>>32216680
>>32216732
I own 3 military pattern autoloaders (sks,ar15,m14) and the m14 is my least favorite.
It's too fucking heavy to be running around innawoods with.

>>32224527

What's it like being weaker than a 1940's manlet conscript?

>>32224564
>Hurr durr
Booth blasted m1a faggot plz delete yourself.
I can say with absolute confidence that I've carried my m14 for longer and further than most anons in this thread.

>>32224641

You're visibly mad.
That's all the evidence I need to know that I'm right.

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>>32224641
I've carried a 240 over mountains. Doesn't mean I fucking enjoy it.