>>32193609
Why the duck isn't someone pruning and banning this shit?
Weea-moot, why have you forsaken us so?
No.
Zumwalts better.
If only it had a little armor.
OBSOLETE
>>32193637
Are you some sort of faggot or something?
>>32193609
Someone played too much Kancolle
>>32193673
No, I just question why you'd wanna see ships that you clearly love savagely spitroasted by gigantic ducking cruise missiles.
>>32193805
>what is CWIS
>what are screeners
>>32193831
CIWS is the last-ditch defense, it can't protect you alone.
The word you're looking for is escort, and they're generally busy defending carriers, the more useful capital ship. To get a BB to pull it's weight, you end up turning it into an arsenal ship; we learned this in the 80s, the last time anyone ever used a genuine battleship. The whole back half of the ship was repurposed into missile launchers and a flight deck.
Not entirely unlike a bigger, more expensive, less capable Zumwalt, with inferior radar, less missiles, less variety of missiles, hardly any air defense to speak of, inferior aviation facilities and aircraft, a monumentally larger radar signature...
KANCOLLE HIJACK LOL
>>32193673
This stupid shit is spammed every fucking day. It's like if we had a "WHY NOT HORSES AND BAYONETS??" thread two or three times a day, every fucking day.
>>32194199
I was waiting for this.
>>32193609
BBfags just won't stop being fags and spamming the board with their shitty BBfag shitposting threads. Sage and hide.
>>32194185
>pushes up glasses
>The word you're looking for is escort
that's what civilians call them, yes
>and they're generally busy defending carriers
what has happened to /k/?
i hope you know there is a lot more to the navy than carriers... believe it or not the majority of surface groups don't contain a carrier... especially seeing as obongo had us down to only 4 at sea not too long ago and only 6 currently (a record for him)
>less expensive
the program has cost 22.5 billion so far, genius, and the single ship produced is a dud
go back to call of duty before mom tells you it's bedtime
>>32194324
Did a BB touch you in a bad way?
>>32194456
I want Saratoga to touch me in a bad way
>>32193609
How about no.
Instead can we have an equally heavily armored arsenal ship coming in at 50k tons, nuclear powered, with a swarm of 24/7 on-rotation drones performing the duties of radar, fire control, ecm, etc so those capabilities can't be removed by direct hits to the ship? Give it a fleet for added protection and call it done. Control the waves at the fraction of a carrier's cost with better survivability and built in surface to air capability.
>>32193609
I am honestly beginning to worry about the mental well-being of OP. I also found these topics to be somewhat entertaining at first. But this is like the 30th time this year that something along "Bring back BB/Modernize Iowa/What if we???" has been posted here. Some are probably trolls. And that is understandable, because these topics end up as shit-posting fests quicker than the middle eastern treads. But I refuse to believe that more than one or two people actually makes the genuine treads, and that shows a level of repettative mental problems that should lead someone to seek help.
>>32195263
Depends on your knowledge.
We went from the Wright Bros to moon landing in a few decades. We went from V1 rockets to ICBMs in no time flat.
Artillery and ship design remained virtually unchanged. Its been neglected.
We had the technology to give the Iowa's 16 inch scramjet nuclear shells decades ago, giving them like 700 miles of range and more power than any ship ever designed.
At stock format, an Iowa could drop 50 B1 bombers worth of ordinance every hour. That's a pretty significant thing for a 70 year old ship that wasn't even a true battleship.
When people say they want a modern battleship, the implications are a complete overhaul of everything from navy ship design, armor concepts, artillery, etc.
It would revolutionize multiple fields and improve the entire military across the board.
Sell them to China
It is the only logical answer
China will not scrap them
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yl9CAZEXwP0
>>32193805
>>32194185
If BBs are so big and fat and defenseless, why did no one bother to blow them up when they were used in Desert Storm?
>>32196433
>Artillery and ship design remained virtually unchanged. Its been neglected.
>>32196873
because you were fighting a literally fifth-rate military
the chinks for example, who are half-competent, are churning out so many anti ship missiles that they are literally able to sink carriers now
If you launch enough missiles no point defence system will save you and it only needs to be one or two hits
>>32196863
That's what happens when you use 50 year old equipment. Large caliber naval gunnery needs additional funding in RDTE.
>>32196433
>At stock format, an Iowa could drop 50 B1 bombers worth of ordinance every hour
and that's a capability that will handicap us in a huge way if an actual war pops off
large scale beach landings still need BBs, there i snot nearly enough air power nor is that practical anyway
>>32196899
a literal one off dud
>>32196907
there will never be another large scale beach landing
>>32196910
Three off. And a better ROI even with only three built than LCS will ever be.
>>32193637
There's two of these threads a day now, it's the same shit over and over again.
>>32196910
Not if trump wants to MAGA.
http://www.cnbc.com/2016/12/01/navys-costly--and-controversial--zumwalt-ship-may-get-second-look-by-trump.html
>>32196917
>there will never be a second world war
>man will never fly
>man will never fly faster than the speed of sound
etc
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2piJQYJdYCQ
I SAY GODDAMN
>>32196917
That's a retarded statement to make.
>>32194199
>>32197051
>>32196910
no, three. so not literal
>>32197051
slut
>>32193609
>>32193703
Bring back the frigates. Make Navy great again.
>>32195263
>30th time this year
more like this week