.25 acp rifle?

What's wrong with 22?

>>32188545
it's rimmed

>>32188566
For you.

>>32188528
Do you reload? If not, you may want to reconsider. .25 acp is expensive

>>32188528
Cheapest .25ACP at regular price is about $.25-.35 per round. That's about the same as 55gr 5.56.

That aside, I don't know of anyone who makes a rifle in .25 but I'm sure you could design one around existing platforms and have it made. I can think of about 3 ways you could do this but all are hilariously stupid and would involve taking guns, spending lots of money on them and making them worthless.

>>32188595
*for your pleasure

>>32188732
>buy jetfire
>attach extendo barrel
>stock
>foregrip
>quad rail
how expensive would it be

Expensive, low availability, few options for type of piss poor ballistics, underpowered. I'm not sure that the one advantage over rimfire even begins to make up for its many, many disadvantages - especially as an attempted rifle round.

>>32188895
Probably fairly expensive, since you'll need to buy a new dog when the ATF shoots yours and the pay for the lawyer, plus tip, is probably also fairly substantial.

>>32188566
.25 ACP is semi-rimmed.

>>32188936
No no, pistol can go to a rifle but not the other way around. Glock carbines exist.

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Just do what I did...

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>>32189342
I like you.

>>32188566
Rimlock isn't even a thing in anything besides .303 Brit and 7.62x54R.

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>>32189387
I see somebody's never handled shitty .22 LR magazines.

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>>32189423
Doesn't even happen with this piece of shit.

>>32189018
You are literally this retarded?

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>>32188528
get a skorpion and SBR it.

Stock isn't the greatest; in fact it's pretty shit, but still workable. 32acp can be had for $11 a box if you're lucky. LAXammo sells the fiocci for that cheap but they're usually sold out.

I like mine.

Tim Mullen, a gunwriter, summed it up pretty well when he said that the problem with the .25 was that it was neither big nor fast. Although the idea of a .25 magnum going in the speed neighborhood of a 5.7 is kinda intriguing, there is no market for it nor is there likely to be.

Another point: good friend of mine once told me he thought that a Stevens Crackshot in .25 would be a great small game rifle(and I sorta agree) but we probably won't be seeing that either.

>>32189635
but he's right.

>>32188528

http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?229052-25-ACP-rifle-what-powder

http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?251146-25-acp-rifle&s=23728ce3b47386a3bd679cc58b13eac3

do what makes you happy, but it sounds stupid.

>>32189578
That's cause 10/22s are based

>>32188528
I've also looked for something similar. A manual action rifle in a common pistol caliber for subsonic rounds I couldn't find anything really. Closest I saw was a 22 tcm rifle converted to shoot 9mm.

>>32190124
the cheapest thing to do would probably be buy conversion cases for a gun you already own. .32acp and 7.62tok are available for 7.62x54r guns

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I'd love a super high capacity flush fit fullsize handgun in .25 acp.

I wonder if you could triple stack the mag. Imagine having 30-40 rounds of reliable .25 acp with a flush fit magazine as your CC.

>>32189635
Are you?

>>32188595
If I take that receiver off, will you die?

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>>32189653
>Stock isn't the greatest
you're probably using yours wrong

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>>32188528
What if I told you that such a thing is in development? 3D Printers are so much fun..
All the center fire reliability, reload-able ammo, cheap plastic cases, electric or center fire select. A metal chamber for strength.
A reliable magazine, and you can switch back to .22LR/.22WMR in about two minutes?

>>32188528
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.25_NAA

>a new design based on .32 ACP, but it is a rimless case necked down to accept .251" diameter (.25 ACP) bullets and case is longer than a standard .32 ACP.

Not very related, but I like it and think it's cool, but then I have a fetish for bottlenecked pistol rounds.

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>>32189635

>.25acp
>literally lower performance than .22lr, at 5x the cost.

I love mouse guns too, but I can't justify this shit. I wouldn't go smaller than .32acp.

conveniently, a lot of 7.62mm barrels are built for bullets .311-.312", same as .32acp, so you could re-chamber a barrel blank or cut a good section off a demilled rpk barrel or something.

>>32191686

>he believes the lower than .22lr meme

Velocity and ft/lb figures on .22lr boxes and websites are done from rifles.

Shoot good .25 ACP and good .22lr from the same length pistol barrels and .25 ACP matches or outclasses. The anemic mythos surrounding .25 ACP comes from folks using junk target ammo in SNS guns.

And I'm NOT a mousgun enthusiast.

>>32189018
>>32189796
>>32190774
>>32191669
Google "ATF 2011-4"

>>32191783

Nigga, he wants a .25acp RIFLE.

of course .25acp is as good as .22lr out of a tiny 2" mousegun barrel, that's literally exactly what it's made for.

>>32190876
If it were nothing but a cheekpiece, it wouldn't be called a stock and make a semiauto pistol into an SBR.

>>32191841

Now you're moving your goalposts. You *simply* stated that .25 ACP is outclassed by .22lr.

And since we don't have figures on very many .25 ACP longarms, who is to say that a .25 ACP sub-gun loading couldn't be derived.

I agree, useless concept and a sub-optimal round.

But to say ".22lr is better than .25 ACP" is not quite correct.

So...er... "nigga"

Come at me, bro.

>>32191948
>Now you're moving your goalposts. You *simply* stated that .25 ACP is outclassed by .22lr.

I was not specific enough, yes, but it is the topic, and title of the thread.

>And since we don't have figures on very many .25 ACP longarms, who is to say that a .25 ACP sub-gun loading couldn't be derived.

Maybe, but it'd be an awful lot of trouble to go through to not only develop a custom firearm, but also develop a custom loading specifically for it, for what, a joke?

>>32191803
pistol can go to rifle and back, rifles cannot go to pistol without paperwork. we'll chalk that up to your lack of reading comprehension.

>>32192038

We already agreed that it's not a great concept. The Italians tried it, actually.

But some people do shit just for kicks. Which is fine, there's only so much to do in the realm of fighting guns before you get the urge to branch out into silly shit.

>>32191851
>oh yeah the ATF totally makes sense
>NFA weapon definitions totally make sense too

>>32188566
For the extractor's pleasure

>>32191803
>Google "ATF 2011-4"
https://www.atf.gov/firearms/qa/can-i-lawfully-make-pistol-rifle-without-registering-firearm

Second link you dumb nigger.

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>>32188919
>I'm not sure that the one advantage over rimfire even begins to make up for its many, many disadvantages

The .25ACP was developed as an alternative to .22LR back in the day when firearm and ammo reliability weren’t what they are today.

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.25 ACP machine pistol.

>>32191218
What if I told you it's the complete opposite

>>32191218
Fuck dude, I've got a printer.
If it actually works then I'd love to make it.

>>32190876
You cheeky blighter!