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What is the harder job? Physically and mentally

Who would win in a battle?
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SWAT only have to kill niggers or lone gunmen.

Infantry actually have to fight against competent enemies.
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>>32183957
This would be easier to assess if you named which units are fighting each other.
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>>32183979
Just your average SWAT team vs your average 11B team
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>>32183957
>Infantry actually have to fight against competent enemies.
Uh, not since WW2 has that actually happened.
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SWAT is basically LARPing infantry.

They desperately wish they could be soldiers, but flashbanging stoners is enough to dull the pain.
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>>32183990
Vietnam was definitely up there tho
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>>32183997

mad stoner detected
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>>32183986
If they got access to everything that would normally be available to the, I'd say swat. They both use level 3 plates, but swat guys cover much more of their body. (face, legs, shoulders) Plus if you had a few guys with ballistic shields, infantrymen would get fucked pretty hard.
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>>32184042
Depends where theyre fighting too.

CQC House Id give it to SWAT but outdoors infantry wins everytime
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>>32184042
Are you retarded? I could tell you why you're wrong but that would take the fun away from others watching you try to figure it out
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>>32184042

Infantry would aim for legs below shield removing shield. Follow up shots to individuals stacked behind breacher.
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>>32184022
Deaf* stoner probably
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>>32184072
Cops also don't run armor piercing or high explosive 40mm/Willie pete
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>>32184084

Waht u say?
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You're very uninformed for even asking that question. I recommend reading this book to know more.
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>>32184099
whats it about?
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>>32184101
Infantrymen in Iraq.
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>>32184068
So if you had to choose between being in a shootout with some fuck with a vest and an M4, and a modern day knight with an MP5 and a fucking shield, you'd pick the latter?
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>>32184072
Do you see this nigga's legs?
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>>32184042
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>>32183986
SWAT has a hilariously large range of competency. There isn't much in the way of "average". Some are deputies that wanted to play badass, some are legit hardass HRT types.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkWJ3wUd5u8
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>>32184121


>implying that shitty 9mm mp5 could penetrate the vest
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>>32183966
>fight against competent enemies.
Last time they fought against competentent enemies was Vietnam
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>>32184176
and drugged up niggers that swat fight are more competent than terrorists?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQvDn9MEtNo
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>>32184181
Niggers kill more americans than the terrorists do.
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>>32184150
>that humvee faceplant

fuckin lol
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>>32184065
Well ya. This is one of those questions that doesn't REALLY have an answer. But granted it's fun to talk about.
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>>32183957
If you look in the picture they have a STRIKER, probably with a GPMG or a HMG on it. They also have proper machine guns and fragmentation grenades and launchers.
Leven Bang Bangs take it.
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>>32184158
>Its ok bro, my arms and legs are shredded beyond recognition, but at least my chest is fine.
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>>32184188
Meanwhile Infantry do this all the time.

See Fallujah and all that shit
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>>32184207
>Fallujah
>all the time
get learned, scrub.
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>>32184181
Harassing minorities isn't fighting.
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>>32184144

Fine, I'll play. Sustained suppressive fire center-mass, hold-point at clavicle . Follow up shots to individuals stacked behind breacher.
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>>32184188
Christ, how can a bunch of "professionals" be so wrong? are they that used to there being no resistance that they grew complacent?
I mean there's no good way to breach a room like that, but don't shout and give him plenty of time to get into position, let him know exactly where you're coming from, then hang out in the ol' funnel of death waiting to get lit up
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>>32184158
>implying 5.56 or even 7.62 could.
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>>32184215
literally any urban battle
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>>32184234
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>>32184219
>and while you're dicking around magdumping to your heart's content, you get a hot load of M84 to the face.
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>>32184181

You do fucking realize those ahmeds and mohammeds barely have any training and also do fuckton of drugs right?
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>>32184217
>Harassing minorities
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>>32184233
It's very rare that anyone tries to shoot back or put up any resistance. Most people will just surrender immediately because they're caught off guard, which is why raids happen at night. It's shocking and embarrassing how they reacted. They've definitely never experienced people shooting at them.
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>>32184207
Can you show me a video?
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>>32184217
>smashes phone to avoid getting video taped
>gets taped anyways
kek
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>>32184288
you can hear the AKBARS from downstairs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kV_J4xbj2s8
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>>32184255

You do realize if your comparing a swat team to an infantry squad or even a infantry fire team, that the 11bs or marine equivalent are going to be shooting also right?

M249 , M203
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>>32184305
You obviously did not watch the video I posted.
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>>32184144
>shoot ballistic shield with AT-4
>everybody behind shield gets wrecked

That was easy
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>>32184311
i did and you think infantry dont get sprayed at with aks?

get real dude cmon
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>>32184334
kek
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>>32184307
Well I suppose if you want to throw in the big guns, then the big shields are fair game too.
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>>32184389
That's a big target for an AT-4
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>>32184335
.Repeat after me: Really big fucking shields
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>>32184343
How they react is the difference. The SWAT team immediately ran away after being shot at. The marines in that video were shot at all day and continued fighting. The drug dealer surrendered. The terrorists found to the death. The marines will probably have the do the same thing the next day. That SWAT team will probably never be fired upon again. I think it's obvious who has a harder job.
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>>32184431
Im supporting infantry here. no shit swat is easier
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>>32184426
>implying that would stop a heat warhead

And before you go ahead and post it. An AT4 would fuck up any APC used by any police force in the US as well
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>>32184389
>>32184426

Battle drill 1A

Repeat after me. M203
Repeat after me. M249
Repeat after me. 240B
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>>32184006
This. The vietcong were hard motherfuckers
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>>32184471

Should have said AT4 or RAWS after the 240.

Good call man.
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>>32184144
>Do you see this nigga's legs?
uh yeah
its on the lower left?
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>>32184144
Those helmets, goggles, and face masks aren't bullet proof.
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>>32184528
>ah but they can be.
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>>32184614
probably only up to 9mm. i doubt thats stopping 5.56
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>>32184621
>That one in particular is level IIIA
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>>32184639
yeah the helmet but not the face shield
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>>32184614
>>32184639

suuu sssu suppressive f ff fff fire?
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>>32184718
>Nope you can have level IIIA clear ballistic face plates, they'll hold up against two or three 5.56 rounds before they break.
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>>32184217
Jesus, what a shit
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>>32184755

m203
m67

How many rounds can they take before the wearer can no longer see. Or repeated impacts move the head exposing soft spots?
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>>32184639
>>32184755
who are you fucking quoting?
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>>32184426
those shield are rated for pistol calibers only. they are super lightweight
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>>32183957
Since we're doing what if's in this thread. How about 2 fictional Clanceyverse groups?

Team Rainbow Vs. Delta Company, 1st Battalion, 5th SFG (Ghosts)
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>>32184389
Throw grenade behind shield.
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ITT assmad 11bs and buttblasted cadets

SWAT teams drill pretty heavily, infantry who aren't deployed keep sharp.

There's usually a degree of overlap. A lot of SWAT are former 11bs or similar combat or Forve protection MOSs.

The roles they fill are different, there's a degree of overlap. You need to set up situations for them.
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>>32184042
An infantry unit would have a much larger selection of kit. Light machine guns, grenades, DMR and possibly heavier stuff such as at rockets. They would heavily outgun a similarly sized SWAT team.

It's important to take mentality into account too. SWAT are cops and are still primarily meant to arrest people if possible. Infantry are for killing. In a prolonged engagement SWAT would be more likely to break under the pressure.
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>>32183957
Lets put it this way.

One is a tryhard faggot team who thinks theyre Gods or soemthing,
And the other attends daily "pls no rape us" classes from the women, whose only job they could do was teach young, stupid soldiers how to. And fuck.

Neither would win. One would never get their because they cant fucking find the place, and the other would be to busy jerking off to their anti-rape pamplets to even care.

GG, America, we did good.
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>>32185620
They all die after a wrestling match in clp turns into an orgy where they fuck to death.
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Whole lotta stupid going on in here
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>>32184042
>ballistic shield will stop m885 or M995
>swat is trained to fight a conventional firefight and not clear rooms like the police trains them to do
yeah no
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>>32185977
Even so, an infantry squad has a massive firepower advantage.
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>>32184099
>when he beats that guy to death with his SAPI plate
>when he stabs a guy in the neck with a penknife
>when a whole street of insurgents get vaporized by a demolition charge
would recommend
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>>32183957
I don't know how the US infantry operates that well I have only worked with them twice now but I would say infantry would destroy them plain and simple.From what I have seen they like to carry around quite a few javelins.A infantry platoon also has shit like C9s C6s (m249 + m240b) as well as hand grenades and what ever replaced the m203.They can also push for more kit like claymore or a Carl G.
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>>32183957
SWAT gets to go home to their family and a warm bed every night
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>>32185977
Ok, here's a situation:

a house with 4 man 11b team inside, fully equipped (they have generic gear), aware and defending.

a 4 man SWAT team has to enter and clear. They're aware of the threat and pick gear accordingly (i.e. no 9 mm, no pistol grade ballistic shields).

everybody involved are the best/above avarage of their kind.
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>>32184259
You do realize that there are parts of Al-Qaeda/ISIS whatever that aren't uneducated goatherders with muskets?

In reality, anyone who isn't a Shi'te in Iraq at the moment is holding their thumbs for a government defeat, and former Saddam-officers forms the core of the ISIS' victories. We're talking well educated (often in western countries) tactical and strategical officers, as well as former intelligence officers and security experts. Look at the Naqshbandi for example.
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>>32186800
4 men is too small for a squad, but I'll bite

>put infantry on second floor
>use AT-4s on any APS swat my try to use
>use AT-4s/ 203s/ Frags on anybody using a ballistic shield
>SAWS for anything else unarmored
>claymore at base of stairs just in case

If it was the other way around
>flatten house with AT-4/203s/frags
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Army has grenades and other kinds of explosives.

Swat does not have grenades or any kind of actual combat explosives.

Just grenades will tear swat's ass all day long.

Fighting is not only about shooting bullets and moving.

Explosive hardware are a big thing in military fighting, and are responsible for most of the injured/dead.
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>>32185957
I doubt it will hold up against continuous 7.61 AP fire from m240s on the top floor of a building..
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>>32183957
Infantry is easier because the military would just hire PMCs to do infantry jobs.
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>>32183957
SWAT because there is a lot more red-tape tying their hands and bad press waiting for them to fuck up. Infantry can do whatever most of the time and only has to avoid the urge to throw a puppy off a cliff or something idiotic.
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>>32184068
>>32184247
this is you
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>>32186800

Infantry.
M203 or SAW end SWAT team during initial breach due to the fatal funnel.
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>>32184188
Is this the one where it turns out the guy only has like a $40 sack of weed and isn't even a dealer?
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>>32184150
There was a thread about breaching tools a few weeks ago.

I'd like to point out that this failure to breach is not the result of incompetence, but that those doors are literally the bane of SWAT's existence. The plasticity of the door actually just absorbs force and evenly distributes it and then snaps back, sending most of the energy into the breacher.

They just had bad luck, since if that were a standard door, it'd be over with in a few seconds.
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Minimal Physical Fitness Standards for a Marine Combat Infantryman:
Pullups: 3
Crunches in two min: 50
Three Mile Run: Under 28 mins

Minimal Physical Fitness Standards for an Army Ranger:
Pushups (in 2 Min): 49
Situps (in 2 Min): 59
Pullups: 6
Two Mile Run: Under 15:12
Five Mile Run: under 40:00

Average Minimum SWAT Physical Fitness Standards (Departments vary):
Situps (1 min): 50
Sit and Reach: 2.5 inches
Pushups (1 min): 49
Bench Press: 1.2x Body Weight
Pullups: 14
Two Mile Run: Under 12:00

SWAT Officers are selected from Patrol Officers with at least two, and more likely five years of street experience. These officers must also meet all state standards, including the educational requirements that exceed anything the military requires, and have a track record of exceptional service prior to being selected.

A more accurate comparison would be a SWAT team vs. a squad of Army Ranger NCO's with several years combat experience.
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So many fucking retard NEETs in /k/ who work worthless fucking jobs and then think they can comment on shit like this like experts or something when 100% of their experience on the topic is googling shit. Fuck /k/ you're all pussies. Go get real jobs you fucking wannabes.
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>>32187289
Those are the minimum requirements?
Fuck, I should've joined the army out of high school. Would've been way easier than going to college and working retail.
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>>32187395
(you)
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>>32187289
>Ranger
>scoring anywhere near the minimum and still being allowed in regiment

Even in a regular line Infantry unit scoring below a 250 on the PT test usually means you're doing remedial PT until the next PT test.
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>>32187289
WTF that's not hard at all. No wonder the American military is a fucking joke
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>>32187289
welp from the USMC side
the pull ups are bare mininium to go to boot camp
Most of the recruits i trained with could do at least 5.
crunches are on the mark, but not incouraged i think my highest was 80.
You do 1.5-2 mile runs in under 13 minutes then you work on the three mile run
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>>32187068
>leaves his M4 leaning against the garage door while everyone clusters around the front door
I'm p sure they're incompetent, too
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>>32183957
Infantry. Infantry is sent to shitty foreign lands where you don't know the language. SWAT is local police, so they know the area and get to go home at the end of day. And most of the time they're used for probation checkups or "suspicion actives" (aka false alarms).
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>>32184190
They kill each other, so nothing of value is lost.
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>>32187289
>Departments vary
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Only thing I can see SWAT really winning out on is LEO technique. Since obviously Infantry aren't trained on detaining people. Tell a SWAT team to clear a house, they have 3 individuals detained, 1 needing medical for resisted arrest. Tell infantry to clear a house, you have 3 hostiles downed, house secure.

Not really fair comparing two groups that are trained for two completely different things
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>>32190796
Yeah, it's a stupid question, but I guess that's /k/.
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>>32190796
>SWAT aren't trained to kill

Nice meme
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>>32187751
Weak bait
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SWAT would win in in any close quarters fight against any regular infantry.

But out in the open? Fighting over a vehicle column? Facing suppressive fire? Getting a grenade shot at them from an under barrel launcher from a 100 yards away? They'd be rekt.

SWAT focuses on CQC. Infantry focuses on...being infantry. Which means having a grasp on CQC but not being a specialist in it.

They merely adopted the CQC. SWAT is born in it. Molded by it. And usually have an entire police department outside.
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>>32184389
Bend the bullet
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>>32192161
dude last time i checked SWAT dont have M249s, M203s, claymores and shit and fight mostly drugged up nigger drugdealers.

it'd be a pretty close fight
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>>32183957
I cant speak for the US but here in Australia our Police Tactical Groups are trained to the same standard as the Army SF units and get the same weapons and equipment. They have selection courses that vary in length but they are modelled on the SASR cadre course selection. PTGs are harder to get into, have longer and harder training courses and the cops in them have more skill sets then an Grunt. However a grunts life out in the field is far tougher then a Police operator's.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Police_tactical_group#State.2C_territory_and_federal_units

>Police Tactical Group (PTG), formerly known as 'police assault group', is an Australian police unit part of the Federal government National Anti-Terrorism Plan[1] which, since 1978, has required each state and territory police to maintain a specialised counter-terrorist and hostage rescue unit jointly funded by the federal government and respective state/territory governments.[2]

>Each year as part of the ANZCTC Police Tactical Group Skills Enhancement Course, each state and territory sends several members of its PTG to participate in a concentrated three-week course with the Tactical Assault Group of the Special Air Service Regiment to strengthen standards of policing in urban counter-terrorist tactics and ensure all states are training consistently to the same codes and standards of counter-terrorism.[11][12] [13]

>3 weeks stomping over high range in October
vs
>Stand around in gucci ass gear waiting to kick a door a in an kill one man.

Pic related, NSW Police TOU. More gear then an a grunt could hope to get, even now with our new SCE roll outs. The Federal Police unit is overseas deployable also.
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>>32184150
Why the fuck wouldn't you just breach with a shotgun instead of playing whack-a-mole with the damn door?
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>>32184334
>ey alex, place your m4 over there, in case the guy opens his garage door!
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SWAT spends most of their time jacking off at the station. Infantry spends most of their time picking up cigarette butts.

So definitely Infantry.
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LAPD SWAT must get a lot of pussy
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>>32192836
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>>32192688
What about Commandos vs PTG
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>>32184150
>rainbow six siege in a nutshell
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>>32184150
If there were armed motherfuckers in that building who were worth anything that guy wailing on the door would have gotten fucking iced.
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>>32192836
The guy with the halligan... his fucking boot is undone.
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>>32192843
>All those patches

These guys really do think they're soldiers.
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>>32192905
He was in such a hurry he forgot to double lace! pic and link related
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3fp7mDN4B4
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>>32192855
I'de have to say Commandos. Like it says in the info I posted the course criteria is based off the Army TAG courses. Ultimately they do different things, Commandos and SASR TAG go in and kill. PTGs primary goal is to arrest however are completely capable of handling a terrorist incident as they did in Sydney at the Lindt cafe.
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>>32192161
>They merely adopted the CQC. SWAT is born in it. Molded by it. And usually have an entire police department outside.

And infantry have fucking tanks and ifv's outside
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>>32184101
Buying real estate in Detroit.
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>>32192941
Yeah true
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Infantry. They've got AT4's, 249's, real grenades, and WAY more training. What the fuck do you think grunts do when they're not deployed? Train, pick up cigarette butts, train, clean up the barracks, and train. Your average SWAT officer, however doesn't sit around and wait for SWAT things to do. They're regular cops most of the time. This puts them as a distinct disadvantage.

If it was an urban environment, SWAT was defending, and the infantry had really strict ROE's SWAT might end up with a Pyrrhic victory...maybe.
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>>32183957

>What is the harder job?
>Physically

Infantry

>Mentally

Infantry

>Who would win in a battle?

Infantry

Honestly SWAT operations have become so common at this point that (over 50,000 a year) that most of them are just serving warrants or subpoenas. Now most SWAT teams are just normal cops with fancier gear and a bit more training. They're trained to deal with outnumbered, generally unarmed suspects they'd get massacred by real soldiers.
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>>32184217
Friendly reminder most people on /k/ are okay with this.
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>>32193044
Haha holy shit. Literally beating on a cripple person.
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>>32193044

http://reason.com/archives/2014/07/23/over-policing-america
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>>32184217
It still amazes me that cops basically never get into trouble
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>>32193044
>Beating the shit out of a cripple

This kind of bullshit is why people don't like cops. If anyone else did this they would get locked up, but a cop does it and it's fine.
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>>32184042
The basic army fire team has at least one grenade launcher and one lmg. Each squad has two fire teams. Sometimes each fireteam has a rocket launcher as well
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>>32184639
So 5.56 would go right through yeah
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>>32193147
Talk shit get hit fucker. It would be fucked up if the cop treated the crippled any different.
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>>32193168
Agreed, I fully stand behind my police force being held to the same standard of politeness and civility as a drunk, deadbeat bouncer for a bar in a crummy neighborhood.

Good post fellow /k/unt
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>>32193168
The thing cops are not held the same standard a normal civilian is, even though they are civilians. Now if a cop walks up to you, talks shit to you, kills your dog, and smashes your phone you just have to stand there and watch or get a boot in the back of your head.

And even if it's all recorded nothing will happen to the cop. At worse paid leave. Cops are literally above the law in this country.
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>>32193168
Cops are fucking civilians. They have to follow the laws too. Granted they are allowed a certain level of leeway out of necessity, but you still can't beat the shit out of a guy in wheelchair or smash someone's phone like in the video from >>32184217. The first is felony assault and the second is felony destruction of property. Wearing a badge means you have duty to enforce the law, it doesn't mean that you are above it.
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>>32193282
>Wearing a badge means you have duty to enforce the law, it doesn't mean that you are above it.
Actually....it does. Pic very related.
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>>32192910
>all those patches
I literally just see a police patch the American flag and I think their name.
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>>32193248
If that specific situation happened it would be all over the goddamned news you dumbass motherfucker. People would be rioting, protesting, and killing random cops around the country for months. So stfu before you disrespect the people who will risk their lives to come to your side if your ever robbed or in danger.
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>>32193332
I'll disrespect some guy who beats on cripples in wheel chairs all I want you faggot
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>>32183957
Day to day, infantry. When actually in combat, SWAT hands down. Suppressing and moving at opfor ~300 meters away is not nearly as dangerous as breaching and clearing
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>>32193332
>>32193304
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>>32187976
Those were just the requirements for basic by the time I was in infantry school I was doing 24 pull ups and a 3 mile in 18 min
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>>32193408
I totally agree, maaaaan. Fucking boot licking scum.
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>>32193392
Yeah because a bunch of hobbyist wanna be soldiers with less fire power can go toe to toe with a group that's meant to actually kill, not arrest.
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>SWAT chooses to play indoors
Satchel the fucking house
Grenade the fucking hallways
Key hole and skyline every wall/ceiling

>Swat plastic outside
Get out maneuvered every time

Infantry hands down.
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>>32192957
That's worth a kek, boyo
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>>32184121
>a modern day knight with an MP5 and a fucking shield
Holy autism batman.
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>>32193332
You're a troll, there is a webm in this very thread of a cop smashing a ladies phone, in my state of Texas there is video of a cop shooting a woman's puppies so young their eyes aren't even open and killing them and his chief defended his actions and called the woman irresponsible.

You are a troll, a faggot, and probably 17.
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>>32193332
>People would be rioting, protesting, and killing random cops around the country for months.
I see what you did here.
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SWAT teams breech with a ram and flashbangs
Infantry use satchel charges and grenades
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Not all SWAT teams are equal just as not all soldiers are equal. There are thousands of police officers and thousands of "Veterans" that have never been in a firefight or shot another person. And there are thousands of veterans and thousands of police officers that have been in firefights.
A lot of your full time teams the average age will probably be in the 30s-40s and they are guys that have literally been honing their craft for 15-20 years. A large portion of them are likely combat veterans and they've received far more advanced CQB training and have far superior CQB skills to your average soldier.
I'm sure a lot of veterans did kick down doors and pulled the trigger. But I'd be willing to bet the majority of them never shot a single person or if they were in any kind of engagement it was at such a far range they weren't in any real danger. Based veterans I know/am related to/have worked with maybe 10% of them actually did anything in combat.
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>>32193392
i wish /v/ would stay in /v/
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>>32184188
Well the problem there is that infantry would have just iced the family.
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>>32186800
>They're aware of the threat and pick gear accordingly

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_shooting_of_Dallas_police_officers#Use_of_a_police_robot_to_kill_Johnson

Just get WALL-E to go full Daesh on them by promising 72 solar powered waifus in the after life.
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>>32183957
Me and my boys would fuck Swat. Kyle, Seth, Nick, and Zach. You'd get some 2/1 Marine Infantry up that bootyhole. Go back to whatever you were doing.
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>>32196923
Nah it's still on. Donkey Kong. How the fuck does Swat even think they are on the same field?
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>>32187289

kek SWAt running 6 minute miles. bs
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>>32196911

at4/m203

fuck your robot
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>>32197036
>use your only at4 for a tiny ass robot, they just decide to send in a second robot
what now?
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>>32193392
Are you trying to be cute or something?

What the fuck? No.
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>>32183957
SWAT isn't a full time job while you can't quit being an Infantry man.
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>>32192161
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qgii5JP4jVg

Yeah, swat easily wins...

Except that they would get their ass handed to them. In urban warfare, an infantry soldier is trained to kill and outmanouver the enemy, whereas the SWAT team is trained to do entries in buildings while minimizing collateral damage and wounded/dead.
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>>32193044
I read an article about overusing SWAT to do things like bust poker games at yacht clubs. Some security guard got lit up for holding a book
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>>32193111
That's because they quit their job before being fired, allowing them to get another job as a police officer.
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>>32197951
Are you Swedish by any chance? I was wondering if the machine gun in the door was an extra thing or if the squad gunner puts it there when he enters
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>>32198082
Oh someone bumped.

I'm >>32196923
Im Kyle. The other 3 homos are only my friends. Wtf man. Europe?
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>>32198082
I'm not mech infantry so i can't really answer your question. Since all other soldiers carry AK5s except for one who carries an m249, i'd imagine it's an extra so that the gunner can change if more firepower is needed. But again, im not sure.
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>>32197774
>there's 2 AT-4s per squad
>there's 40 203 grenades pers squad

Hope you have a lot of robots
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>>32198521
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4ZVheimQ-Y

Just try me, nigger.
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>>32184515
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>>32183957
In a battle?
Well, since this will never happen might as well have some fun
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>>32184150
First guy is like "yeah but I loosened it"
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>>32184426

These guys take their paintball pretty serious
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>>32183966
Infantry sit around in a sand Pitt all day.
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>>32184072
Someone plays way too much CoD
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>>32199090
Do those guys move slower in video games?
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>>32199904
yep
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>>32199471
actually no i dont. That was my thought on what to do after being a 11b for six years.

fun note. there are a lot of blood vessels in the groin area
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>>32183997
>flashbanging stoners is enough to dull the pain.
KEK
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>>32184307
An infantry squad gets laws, grenades, CS, phosphor etc
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>>32184389
hold on, Ima just sit right here while they get this up the stairs and they are ready to roll a wall on wheels, which just happens to have enough space for muh nades to roll under.

this will be over quickly, I promise.
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>>32200178
holy shit, why do I always see clips Latin American armored police with lightning quick reaction
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>>32197774
targets assplosives, no more robot.
target antennae array or track(if rubber)

but before all this, Jameson, the aspiring technonerd, jams all frequencies in 2.4--6mhz 100m range rendering robot commandless.
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>>32200178
Wow. Where is that cop from? I like the gear.
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>>32200442
Brazil I think.
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how about russian police spetnaz?
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>>32200556
But the text is in Spanish.
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>>32183957

Infantry spend their time shooting at people who shoot back while waiting for air strikes.

SWAT spend their time shooting unarmed two year old toddlers in raids on the wrong houses.

Infantry is harder in every regard. SWAT are just what happens when you give airshit warriors actual firearms.
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SWAT is way harder.

Infantry would get shit on
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>>32193304
Fucking kek
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How about foreign swat teams
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>>32186330

This.

Military is designed and intended to kill the enemy. Cops to arrest enemy.

Military go well in team battle because they do warfighting shit. Cops dont go well in battle because they usually do peace keeping shit.

Sometimes military struggle with peacekeeping shit, and cops do better at that. Example is Australian Federal Police deployment in Timor.
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>>32202229
Why is he holding the bottom of the magazine? What kind of stance is that?
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>>32202274
it's a stable one that doesn't induce muscle fatigue.
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>>32202274
its called the "im a complete fudd that will give my gun feed issues" stance
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>>32193304
Warren v. District of Columbia
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>>32202351
>a few bad apples
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>>32193044
>>32198035

>I read an article about overusing SWAT to do things like bust poker games at yacht clubs.

This article outlines it pretty well.

http://reason.com/archives/2014/07/23/over-policing-america

SWAT used to be something you called in for hostage situations and general SHTF and only large cities had them. Since 9/11 all the police departments started getting milsurp gear that they really have no use or justification for so whenever they have to serve a warrant or a subpeona they gear up half the department and use it as a pretext to play with all their expensive toys.

So for a job that they formerly would have just sent two guys in a squad car to handle they use a dozen men, a surplus APC, and generally spend a few hundred thousand dollars mobilizing all of it.
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>>32202351
>bunch of niggers getting what's coming to them
YLYL webm?
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>>32202460
That's a good civilian. Get my boots nice and clean, use your whole tounge.
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>>32204215
that's a small price to pay for more dead and butthurt niggers.
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>>32202460
>my boots
>my
>boots
Niggers only wear Jordans.
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>>32204314
Oops meant for this nigger. >>32204215
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>>32192910
What patches? The only patch that stands out is the American flag. All the others are kinda required.
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