>10mm is a decent enough pistol cartriage
>foam at the mouth for a carbine despite the ballistics being shit and not much better while completely negating the benefits of a concealable weapon in the 10mm caliber
Is there a more pointless and useless concept?
>>32162793
>Concealing a sub gun that isn't a "machine pistol"
>>32162793
>Is there a more pointless and useless concept?
(You)
>>32162793
I would actually pay 40000 for a 10mm Mp5 with collapsible stock and hydrodipped multicam. Buy specific ammo for punching through 3A with 2400- 2600 FPS liberty defense ammo and you're all set.
A 50.AE submachine gun would be cool.
>>32162793
people just want a shoulderable 10mm configuration. Why do so many flip their tits over it?
Yeah sure a pump action 44 would be better but people want a semi, and magazine/cartridges that wont get rim locked
Why does that piss you off?
>>32162793
Sometimes people want something...
Because it's cool...
>>32162793
>despite the ballistics being shit
Compared to what?
>>32162793
UMP 10mm could be pretty cool
I'd still prefer the UMP 45 though.. I like subsonics
Shouldn't be hard to make a bolt gun in such.
Short Mauser with 10-20 round mags would be a handy rifle if you have a 10mm pistol (otherwise, a .44 Mag is better).
10mm would be too powerful for a basic blowback, which would be why there's no cheap semi-auto rifle for it.
>10mm is cool
>mp5 is cool
>10mm mp5 is double cool
How hard is this to understand?
>>32164365
Mech tech makes a blowback 10mm glock upper that people don't seem to have complaints with
>>32162793
>Is there a more pointless and useless concept?
The scout rifle. Oddly enough, both were conceptualized by Jeff Cooper. Seriously, 10mmfags are retarded. They unironically believe that 10mm is stronger than .223 thus they cheese at the thought of owning a pointless gun like a 10mm mp5 or ar.
What makes it worse is that they unironically suggest a Glock 29 for conceal carry or even fucking worse, a 20 for bear defense. Just ignore 10mmfags. They're those people that crunch numbers and stare at ballistic charts instead of actually shooting to proficiency with 9mm. 10mmfags hide behind 10mm and blind faith in hopes of it being able to supplement their poor shooting skills.
Take someone that thinks .40 can knock someone down in one shot, give them some insecurity and you'll have someone who pretends to like 10mm because he thinks he's a man because he can somehow "handle" 10mm because he isn't a bitch.
>>32166306
(You)
Sorry 10mm is too expensive for your taste. It is undeniably a superior automatic pistol cartridge though.
>>32167363
>10mm fans are too focused on ballistics charts
>posts ballistics chart as counter argument
for fucks sake man
>>32167399
Well, I mean they show the truth though.
>>32167399
>unsubstantiated shitposting
>scientific evidence
for fucks sake man
>>32164365
Lots of companies make 10MM blowbacks... I think BB is the most predominant action type for the caliber, actually...
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Are you 'tarded? It's ok if you are, I'm just curious is all.
>>32162793
>>foam at the mouth for a carbine despite the ballistics being shit and not much better while completely negating the benefits of a concealable weapon in the 10mm caliber
A KelTec Sub2000 in 10mm would be both concealable and spacegun as hell.
>>32164049
That shoulder pain though.
>>32162793
The only reason why the MP5/10 and MP5/40 failed was because if you wanted to shoot high pressure ammo out of the guns then you needed a 'high impulse' locking piece to safely use the ammo without damaging the gun.
However, all the LEOs that bought them either didn't care or were too retarded to read the manual the guns started to break down, they channeled their retard rage at H&K and stopped buying them, causing H&K to discontinue them.
>>32162793
I want a 10mm P90. Theoretically it should be possible since 10mm is straight walled so it can fit in the horizontal magazine
>40-50rd of 10mm in a compact, select-fire package
>>32164049
.50AE? Why not just go .500 S&W.