Redpill me on the mini 14. Considering getting one

>worse than an AR-15
>more expensive
>less modular
The only reason to get one now is if you live in a cucked state.

+is a gun

--not an ar15

Would reconsider unless you live in a shithole where that is legal but other guns aren't, you want to cosplay as the A-Team, or you just really really want one.

>>32145832
They're alright, nothing too great about them. If you live in a cuck state like me then you won't have to worry about bans or salt rifles. I have a garand and an M1A that I love but the mini always feels like the runt. I'd rather just shoot .223/5.56 out of my AR or savage axis.

If you can find one for less than 600 go for it. The gun shop I work at has the 30, 14, and .300 and are at 800 bucks

>>32145853
Too bad ares scr are rare as fuck now.

>>32145832
The 300BLK model looks neat for durr
Not $850 neat though

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>>32145832
Confirmed effective against teenage communists.

>>32145853
This or if you just want a wood and metal "salt rifle".
They don't take AR mags.

>>32145832
If you like the m14 look but don't want to feed a 308 rifle

>>32145869
And so few stock conversions don't look pants on head retarded

>tfw too poor for a select-fire mini14

>>32145832
The price is what should make you think twice. I personally like how they look.

>>32145869
My local gun shop in NY has one for $700, I might get it.

>>32146012
Not too terrible. Capital area, southern tier, or westward?

>>32145992
They're only $6000-$8000

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>>32145832
On their own merits, the new ones are nice rifles and they look super-aesthetic.

The only con with them is that they're the same price as a quality AR. If they were 600 bucks and took AR mags, they'd be loved by /k/ to the point of being a meme.

good rifles, go bang most every time, reasonably accurate, fun to shoot, etc
only problem is that AR-15s are cheaper now

>>32146031
Southern area, a few shops have them but $700 is the lowest I found.

>>32146072
>>32146085
10 ring hits for heart of the topic

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>>32145832
There great defense guns unless you are being attacked by barns.

>>32146072
>>32146096
I hear the sights often come loose

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>>32145869
I can't even fathom what's going through the heads of Ares' higher ups. The market is there, people are actively demanding for them to make them. Instead they push they're gimmicky belt fed AR-15.

What the hell are they thinking?

>>32146093
Capital region and we more have the funky stock ars the chopped pistol grip ar and aks and some newish no pistol grip 308 that looked like some kind of FN product (not a lot of time to browse sadly) that said any lever 357 out your way?

>>32145832
Every bad thing about the Garand in a slightly smaller package.

>>32145832
Nick Houghton really likes the mini 14, so it's got that going for it I guess.

>>32146112
I am tempted to call/write customer service but if I had to guess they would be based in NY and had their business license threatened or other state sponsored harassment if supply met demand especially with current governor

>>32145832
They are the keltec of 308's dude.
But they are fun.
Get a 100 round drum on it to make it useful for something (as 2 out of every 3 rounds will jam/misfire) so you will have 33 shots or so.

>muh red pill

Even though it's November, I see that summer has not ended.

>>32146110
That's a 180 model. Early first production. It really isn't accurate at all. I know they beefed up the barrel and made some other mods to improve accuracy but that one is the only one I have and I'd grab my AR before it every time.

>>32146122
We've got plenty of the Thordsen stocks and chopped pistol grips too. Collector Rifle and Ammo in Hopewell has a lot of lever guns in stock, new and used.

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>>32145896
Why did he need those lights on it?

>>32146185
While the website is sparse with listed inventory that is typical of any store doing a lot of business. Thank you I will check it out next time I head south to visit family

>>32146164
Auto trip??
Also, you are wrong. Not 308 and not unreliable

>>32146262
I think he was just posing for the camera.

I don't think he had all that shit on his rifle when he actually went out and killed people.

He was weird (big shocker) like that, he wrote a blog about.... stuff... Basically just insane rantings.
But among the things I remember some news reporters talking about was how self obsessed and vain he was.
For example he had multiple blog posts about how important it is to have a lot of professional photographs taken, and despite "how gay it may sounds, professionally applied make-up makes a world of difference in portrait photos". Shit like that.

>>32146370
Yeah, I recall that and what you say makes sense. What's wrong with that bayonet though? It looks like a toy knife. Look how wide it is

>>32145832

I genuinely love mini-14's

To be fair, it comes from being older, and growing up, AR's were $1000 guns, and as a broke college grad, the mini-14 was a nice $400 (used) alternative.

On their own merits, they are good old school rifles. I think they are handsome, I prefer the basic blued steel and wood stock option with a 20 round magazine. With a good sling, it's a fun range gun, and if you want to daydream about SHTF, I think a mini-14 would get you through the night.

In all honesty, I have 1 mini-14, and 8 AR's. When I day dream about SHTF, I would certainly grab the AR first, but the Aimpoints, back up sights and better controls tip the scales.

I think they are overpriced these days. All the anons who say that an AR is better value are 100% right. However, on it's own merits, Mini's are good guns.

>>32146394
I think there's a plastic sheath on the blade.

>>32146414
yeah, looks like it

>>32146410
How are the sight attachments? I hear they get loose all the time

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>>32145896

>>32146072
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>>32146569
>$500+ stock

No.
I must resist my childhood A-team nostalgia!

>>32145832
>redpill

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>>32145832
Do not buy the target model.

The dampener sounds like a good idea but in reality the fucking thing constantly comes loose and then it starts shooting 10 MOA. I chopped mine off.

If only I lived in the land of the free. At least we have dirt cheap M1A knockoffs.

>>32146978
Should've used loctite on it you retard.

>>32145832
I have been too but can't justify the price. Eventually I'll get one as their fun to shoot and something different but for now I like building ar's for the same price.

When I do I'm going for the modular with the ati folding stock.

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>>32145832
Got mine at a gun show in AZ a couple years back for $500. Came out of an old fella's collection and looked like it had hardly been fired. I've taken it out a few times and never really had any issues with it, and it just feels comfortable to hold in my opinion. I'm pretty satisfied with it for what I paid.

>>32146110
These were the old ones, like the first generations in the 70's. Everything is good to go on them these days.

If you live in a ban state they're a good option, but I'd rather a Kel-Tec if they weren't unobtainium.

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>>32145832
>No Stripperclip guide
>no bayonet lug
>expensive proprietary mags
>AR-15s are alot cheaper
>No 580 series version with a rear sight closer to the M1/M14

Its a good gun if you live in a ban state, but if you dont just get an M14 or an M1. If you really want a Mini get an older one that has an Accu Strut or buy one separately

>>32145832

They are garbage. I am 6'3" and built kinda big and i can not use the iron sights because of my high cheek bones make it impossible to get low enough to look down the sights. Magazines are very expensive they are much harder to mount optics.

And last time i went shooting my friend brought his out and the rear sight came loose and was flopping around. I think it took a Allan wrench to fix and we did not have one so he didnt get to shot it.

They are crap stay away unless it's your only option living in a ban state.

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>>32146394
>>32146414
It's a KABAR "pistol bayonet" Laserlyte used to sell.

>>32145832
Less modular than an ar15 so if you're one of those sort of queers then you obviously won't like it. But other than that it is a ffrear rifle, it has some nifty aftermarket parts, and it can do some things that an ar15 simply cannot. Don't let the ar15 mafia tell you otherwise

>>32145832
Ignore the faggots OP, a lot of AR fanbois.
I have a Mini-14 and it's a fine rifle right out of the box. They come complete and unlike a lower priced AR you don't have to buy a set of sights for them. This is part of the reason ARs are Barbie doll guns, people like to accessorize them and dress them up to look pretty.

The mini-14 uses the same operating function as the M-1 Garand, the rifle that won WWII. Which is also used by the M-14. Only mini-14 ammo costs a lot less.

It is accurate, with just iron sights I'm hitting targets at just over 100 yards. Just like any other .223 rifle. It is true they don't use AR mags, but there are good after market mags for them. To which I prefer steel mags as the cheap plastic ones don't feed right.

The best person to redpill you on a mini-14 is some one that owns one. ARs just have too much plastic on them.

>>32147666
>it can do some things that an ar15

I mean this is a not shitposting way, curious as to what. Tell me your secrets satan.

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>>32145832
I have the tacticool model. Just feels great to shoot, reasonable accurate, and a bit expensive for what it is. 10/10 would recommend.

>>32145874
Why not just get the Mini-30 instead?
You can't use AR parts already, and that's every advantage 300 Blackout has gone

>>32145832
Had one. Put 5k rounds through it. Placed and showed in a few tactical rifle matches with it. Reasonably accurate to 250 yds, past that it was no headshots. Ultra reliable IF you make sure all of your ammo is seated against the rear of the mag. Stock sights are crap. Vibratite anything you mount to it.

>>32148161
Mini-30 can't eat steel-cased ammo, which kinda defeats the whole purpose of having a x39 rifle.

>>32145832
DONT. I fell for the mini14 meme and hated it

>>32146152
The company is based out of Florida

>>32148356
>>32148161
Mini-14s are kinda cool
Mini-30 is garb
even harder to find mags, can't shoot steel cased, can't ignite hard military primers, and it has the wrong bore diameter (.308 instead of .311)
Ruger really dropped the ball

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>>32145896
>sperg shoots fish in a barrel
>woah it worked
An INSAS or RAS47 would do the same thing and those are shit, they were unarmed teen punks.

Look at Michael Platt for a real opetator who murdered and injured a bunch of FBI Agents with some adrenaline and a Mini-14GB

>>32146072
Basically this.

An AR15 is objectively better, buuut, if this is a rifle you want, and you can justify the expense to yourself, it's not a bad rifle to actually have by any means.

>>32146096
Yeah the old 180 series civvie rifles had flimsy barrels which heated up fast and would whip, anything other than slow shooting and you'll find yourself shooting +5MOA pretty soon. Whipping can be fixed with a Strut, so that'll make it a little more acceptable, but it's still mediocre.

The old police and military models were a lot better on that (thicker barrels), and the later 580+ series civilian rifles were redisgned to not be abysmal like before (thicker barrels, new tooling, changed the piston) and can comfortably shoot 3MOA (or less, with good ammo) and heats up a lot slower.
Struts won't readily fit on these but they're not necessary.

>>32148598
Mini-30 can shoot steelcase with a Wolf hammerspring.

The bore being the wrong diameter is an unsubstantiated rumor from decades ago, I promise you that any Mini-30 you'll find will be the proper .311 caliber

>>32150304
i know everyone hates on the old mini barrels but that barrel profile was great. removed the right amount of mass to make it a naturally pointing and fast handling gun. it would string when hot but all pencil barrels will do that. sure you couldnt call your hits but even with the 3-5 moa you could hit somewhere on a target with irons. shame about the optics mounting and magazine things.

>>32146370
>"how gay it may sounds, professionally applied make-up makes a world of difference in portrait photos"

just cuz it sound gay dont mean its not true
t. my friend is a photo fag and told me the same shit a while back

>>32147986
They can have adjustable gas block added making them ideal for suppressor and better than ars for 300blk. That gas block can be closed off to allow you to cycle the gun as a bolt action with its right sided charging handle. Conversely the rifle can be safely and easily fired while pressing the bolt catch, locking the bolt to the rear after each shot and letting you fire load rounds one at a time into the top. They can be modified for stripper clips. Cannot suffer a brass over bolt malfunction. Rifle points VERY well; feels like a carbine but has an 18inch barrel in the 5.56 version

>>32145832
do not buy one.
-guy who payed 700 bucks for one

>>32145832
Just buy an AR

>>32145832
Got one after Sandy Hook for 500. Excellent rifle! I had oem mags (20 & 30 rounders) that worked great, and Tapco 30 rounders that worked well also. Loved the paper clip trick as well. I was an idiot and sold it last Christmas and have been kicking myself in the ass ever since.

>>32145862
>cosplay as the A-team
Sounds fun

>>32145896

And FBI

>>32145853

FPBP, and threadly reminder that Bill Ruger supported "assault weapon" bans specifically because he knew the Mini-14 would be exempt.

>>32145832
bottom line not accurate

>>32145853
>>32145862
/arg/ pls stay in your containment thread kthx
This board is for people who love freedom.

>>32145853
>Brother owns Mini-14 in California
>It's got a folding stock, flash suppressor, and removable 30 round magazines
>he doesn't even own a short mag for it
I always laugh at him for buying the fuddiest of fuddguns knowing he can never take it out of his storage shed without going to prison.

>And now the ATF is knocking down anon's brother's door to shoot his dog

>>32145832
I have 3 I Love them, I live in /K/anada we have stupid laws I have Ar's too but can only take them to the range and back. The Mini's I can take to the bush and have less restrictions.
I have mini ranch, mini 30 and mini 14 Target with the Laminated stock All Stainless. I carried a Stainless mini14 folder with 40 and 30 round magazines and iron sights in Southern Africa during the 80's and it was my truck gun, it took allot of abuse and every type of conditions semi Arid/ Desert/Rain forest. It was my goto gun unless I was on Patrol or DM then had a R1 or R4. I have a soft spot for it but I can say it never let me down in real life.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WcfqZFWpk9s

I think AR15s are for queers but even then there's no reason to get one over an AR15 outside of laws.

>>32151981
wtf I hate ruger now

>>32152580
Jeezuz nou wil Jy Kak Praat! I invoke The Youtube Meister NutnFancy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Fk84KLiaa4

>>32146112
They also changed their name from something that sounded macho and cool...to "Fite Lite"

Gaaaaaaaaaaaay.

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>>32152629
>Jeezuz nou wil Jy Kak Praat!


For real though NutnFancy gave the RAS47 a positive review so his opinion means jack shit to me now,

>>32145832
Basically it's an M1 Carbine in 5.56 view it as such.

>>32146138
Why everyone hate the garand all of a sudden?

>>32152659
ARfaggots have been getting more and more obnoxious lately
I've been browsing /k/ a bit less than usual in the last months so I don't know what happened exactly.

>>32152580
Listening to this guy, I can tell you 100% hes autistic. Failure to reason, take that rifle out in real world conditions not your bench dust storm on a wet lubed gun.

>>32152203
You did it, you killed him!

>>32145832
People keep saying "they can't take AR mags" like it's something they can fix. They can never take ar mags because of the action it uses

>>32152640
Everyone's allowed 1 mistake. There are guys reviewing guns on Youtube who tell you I just received the gun and piles of ammo from Blah Blah Blah and they are the greatest people to deal with and this gun ammo combination is the best this week, join us next week when Blah Blah Blah gives us a New gun and Free Ammo to test.

At least Nutn owns or has used the guns he reviews on a regular basis.

How autistic am I for liking the thought that if I bash someone with the butt of the mini 14 with the wood stock it will be ok but with an AR it will break

>>32152737

Bretty autistic. Jab them with the muzzle if you're gonna hit someone with your gun

Which is more accurate?

>pre-580 + accustrut
>580+ unmodified

Question to those who have or have had mini-14s, do they suffer from the same prolonged use accuracy issues the m14 does? I don't think it matters too much, but it'd be neat if it didn't.

>>32152428
Tell us about your stint in South Africa, was it a mercenary gig?

>>32152659
The Garand isn't strictly bad (it was very good for WW2 and Korea), but in hindsight the action has this drawback of being very open to the elements, which, when compared to the AR (an action that is very well enclosed and protected from the elements, with a dustcover and all), it becomes a pretty noticeable drawback. You drop a Garand in the mud and that thing will have serious difficulties cycling until you can disassemble it and clean it, there's points all over where grit and grains of sand can get in the way of the action cycling. I think it's also worth considering that in the rifle trials, it handled mud and other bullshit better than competing designs, in fact it likely was the most reliable battlerifle of it's day in that regard.

Comparing the AR to the M1 I think is unfair as they're different types of weapons from different eras, but comparing it to the M14 is fair in that they were looking to fill the same role and it replaced it, and comparing it to the Mini-14 is fair in that they're competing on the marketplace.

However, for civilian life, this isn't actually a detail that really matters, very few people are going to get in a situation where their rifle will be caked in mud.

>>32153671
580 unmodified, it heats up way slower and the machining is nicer.

Bill Ruger treated the Mini pretty poorly, supposedly he cheated some people out of payment and didn't replace worn out tooling.

When he died and Michael O'Fiefer became CEO, the company really turned around, the Mini being completely overhauled in both design and production is an example of that.

>>32154209
You also probably won't be blasted with sand unless you live in the midwest, which even then is unlikely. I would hope most people would realize having a giant fucking opening looking down into every important bit of the gun is a design flaw.

They're still AESTHETIC and fun though.

>>32154239
Yeah, dirt and mud is a pretty rare concern for most rifles in civilian employ, trusting your life to a Mini-14 or M1 is reasonable for most people.

What can you hunt with this rifle? It's the most "fun" rifle I can get legally, but you need to use it for hunting.

>>32154599
What kind of animals live in your area?

>>32154599
Yes. Just use the 5 round mags instead of thirty

>>32154642
>>what can you hunt with this rifle?
>yes

>>32154624
Deer, fox, hare, grouse

>>32154678
Definitely fox, it's overkill for hare, might not be enough for deer depending how big they get in your area, and use the grouse as an excuse to get a shotgun.

>>32145832
inferior to the AR-15 in every conceivable way

that said, it's still pretty nice

>>32154717
I suppose I could get it for fox hunting. Thanks, lad

He ranch rifle is like $1000 in Maryland but it's my only 5.56 non HBAR option. I can't order the tactical model online because it comes with 30 mags :(

>>32152203
Damn why cuck yourself with a Mini 14 when you are gonna put all that shit on it that makes it illegal anyway.

Makes no sense.

>>32154599
Deer, pig, hog, coyote, wolf, fox.

A .300BLK one can be more suited for deer in general.

>>32154849
The GB models look badass is why

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>>32146457

On the newer models, I have not experienced that.

On my first mini, which was an older skinny barrel model, I actually replaced the rear sight anyway. I think I used a williams sight. I felt that it was secure, and I actually unscrewed the diopter and it had a nice big sight picture.

>>32151133
Can you get all these mod-parts in Canada? I've been hankering over a Mini-14 for a while but they're fucking pricey as fuck, but if I can make it take strippers and/or have it also be a bolt-action then it's on same ground as the SKS when SHTF, but can you get the parts as you described in Canada?

If the EU decides to really push for a ban on AK and AR style weapons. I'd probably buy a mini 14

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>>32154849
Because he likes the mall ninja aesthetic, I guess. It looks like this but without the scope.

>>32155844
They look so cool with folders.

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>>32159020
>"Hey anon, what kind of MOA does that get?"

>"EIGHT. WITH MATCH AMMO."

>>32159051
The GB and AC556 models had thicker barrels, it could probably score 4 consistently.

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>>32147957
>the M-1 Garand, the rifle that won WWII

>>32146012
$700 is a fucking steal. leap on that shit.

>>32159094
>abloo bloo bloo muh russia

>>32146170
>muh summer

This is a board about guns you stupid fag, i doubt many high school kids are buying mini 14's

>>32145832

I own one. I like it. It's a nice rifle.

>>32155844
dear god what an ugly POS. looks like it's been cobbled together in bumfuckistan from 6 different guns

>>32152203

Hello I am interested in also making a firearm like your brother. Can you provide me with his contact details and current known residence?

>>32163123

Sure. It's 99 New York Avenue NE Washington, DC 20226. Be sure to watch out for his dogs.

>>32145832
In every sense possible, it's not worth the money. You can buy better for less.

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>>32146093
regardless of what /pol/ says i want a folding stock one

>>32146410
>and 8 ARs
For what possible fucking reason would you need 8 ARs? I thought a selling point of ARs is how modular they are.

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>>32165295
Shit, it wasn't even a GB model and Platt let loose lead like the maniac he was, I guess that speaks somewhat for it's potential.

>>32145853
Like Canada, but I like the mini30

>>32165369

>I have a business acquaintance
>he has a engineering/manufacturing business
>I've done a couple of million in business with him over the last decade
>He gets hired by gun companies to make parts.
>He makes a lot of parts for a lot of different companies (his parts are all over /k/, but with his clients name on them)
>I would go by to talk about my business with him
>he knows I'm a gun nut
>I would walk out with boxes of barrels, gas blocks, uppers, and samples companies would send him (stocks, sights, fore-ends, etc)
>he then got a few distributor accounts
>would let me order things at dealer cost on his account

I'm not saying it makes sense, it just kinda happened. If you could build an AR for less than $100 (lowers, lpk, and tubes), wouldn't you?

>>32166414
I guess, as long as they're all different lengths and chambered for different calibers and shit. I mean, even if you get them for $5 apiece there's no point in owning a hundred 5.56 rifles.

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>>32147631
>He sized it for his target audience.

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>>32147957
>>32159094
The actual gun that won WW2, on the American fronts anyway.

>>32145832
>"red pill"
how about a bleach pill?

>>32166446
...unless you need to arm more than one person.

>>32146093
What shops? In the same area and that is a steal.

>>32166446

No, sadly they are all 16" carbines. He literally handed me a bunch of barrels one day.

Don't get me wrong, I often look at them and kinda cringe, and wish some were pistols or sbr length, but again, when I only had to buy some lowers (PSA used to do 2 lowers for $100 during christmas), and the rest was at dealer cost, it was to hard to not make another rifle.

Also, 2 of my AR's were from my employer. One was after Obama got elected, the other was after Sandyhook.

It certainly is an unusual situation, but I'm not about to start complaining about AR's raining on me.

>>32155844

Ew