California bans hand guns possibly by 2018.

>>32142890
>legally

The Constitution says otherwise.

California is lost. Anyone with any sense left a long time ago.

>>32142890
isn't this exactly what heller was about?

>>32142924
Yep. OP is full of shit.

>>32142924
Not exactly. California is making it near impossible for companies to legally sell in the state. Of course, if no companies sell, then no guns can be bought.

>>32142935
Check the source, faggot.

Nearly every revolver is also going to be banned in like a month too.

Trump and the republican Supreme Court won't stand for that shit

>>32142945
Why?

And this does seem similar to Heller except that its a de facto ban rather than explicit. If the supreme Court continues to believe that the second amendment is an individual right this should be struck down.

Cali would be UK-tier if it banned handguns

>>32142989
I thought the UK is completely no guns though

>>32143065
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firearms_policy_in_the_United_Kingdom

>>32143065
It is pretty much. I think they can have break action shotguns after multiple background checks, interviews with intelligence officials and a 5 year wait from purchase.

>>32142982
Because the expiration date is next month.

>>32142890
someone kick California out of the union

>>32143551

All the republicans should move to swing states first.

If you're gonna being your democrat-voting families then don't bother though

>>32142890
Ha. Cucks.

>>32142890

The dates just aren't updated yet.

>>32142924
>He thinks CA gives a single shit about the constitution

You know there's no right to carry here right? A large portion of the state is no-issue.

Also it's not technically a "ban," they've just set the requirements for selling pistols such that no guns meet them. There's no confiscation involved, and legally speaking it's technically possible to import and sell handguns.

>>32142890

Good, the pussy gun owners who live there should get the message

Move or mobilize

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>>32143573
they are gonna give a shit when they have to recognize my out of state CCL

IT WILL BE GLORIOUS

fucking calicucks

>>32143562
They could also move to Arizona to reinforce that state

>>32142890
That's just the way the roster works. Manufacturers have to pay to renew annually and most haven't gotten around to it by now. We'll probably lose around 50-100 models this year but the most popular shit will still be around.

We had a lawsuit challenging the roster that got dismissed. The liberal activist judge's opinion was that as long as one handgun could be sold, there was no infringement. Honestly wish the companies would band together and let their products expire.

Dude.
I'm Canadian and this is bullshit.

I can't carry, which is bullshit, but at least I can buy any gun I want and fire it on my own property.

Cali is going full Australia or something. Soon it will be break and lever action shotguns only.
Republican Californians should move up here and guarantee us a Conservative win next election. The Conservatives are promising to add 2A rights to the Charter of Rights and Freedoms.

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>>32142890
I'm ordering my first makarov right now.
>pic related

>>32142910
This

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>>32143721
question: is it ILLEGAL to possess weapons not on the roster?

would out of state CHL holders have to obey the cuck rules?

>>32143749
>question: is it ILLEGAL to possess weapons not on the roster?
No, not illegal for private citizens to bring them in when moving or sell them in state.
>would out of state CHL holders have to obey the cuck rules?
CA doesn't recognize any out of state permits

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>>32143778
>CA doesn't recognize any out of state permits

yet

>>32143733
>lever action shotguns
>Australia
Pick one

>>32143687
>give a shit
not a shit. but they will give you a bullet.

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>>32143806
perfect, im gonna need 30 of them for my standard mag

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>>32143805
Really???
I thought that was their line in the sand.
Semiauto banned
Pump banned
But I thought because the retarded lawmakers forgot lever, ausfags were trying to get leverguns imported.
Now lever is gone? Poor Aussies. They should send their conservatives here too.
That faggot sonofacuckold Justin Castro wants to import 300k immigrants a year? Let them be entirely conservative californians, ausfags and euros. See how he likes that next election.

>>32143796
Can't wait to mail order my NH fruit loop permit and be able to legally CCW here with it.

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>>32143843
fucking Justin Castro

>>32143843
Wait, they actually banned lever action shotguns? What is Australia left with, break action?

>>32142890
Nope. We played our Trump card, remember? We're gonna wipe out that retardation and make America great again.

>>32144655
California will resist Drumpf at every turn.

>>32144655
Pls America.
Get Trump to order Justin Castro to import 0 rapefugees.
Tell him it's a matter of national security. Do you WANT to share a colossal permeable border with Sweden 2.0?
Halp us, please. This faggot is literally rigging the next election by importing a liberal majority vote.

>>32144704
A wall can be built on the northern border as easily as the southern leaf.

Don't worry though, if you start fighting we might supply you with some freedoms.

>>32144757
It'd have to be at least twice the length of the mexifence though. And better guarded (mapleniggers aren't lazy)

If we come up with a nationalist candidate, can you at least help us get him elected?

>>32142890
Trump will overturn it and the US Supreme court ill rule it a violation of the second amendment, not a goddamn thing to worry about.

>>32144811
I would be honored to fight at the side of a canuk in the next meme war.

That said, it'd be really nice if you could hook me up with a qt.

>>32144811
>mapleniggers aren't lazy

of course cucks are lazy

>>32142989
That's the whole idea, coming up next is any semi-automatic long firearm (rifles and shotguns).

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>>32144831
Absolutely, buddy. Most folks will point you at the Quebecois chicks, because they're easy, but I recommend East Coasters and prairie chicks. They're wife material.

>>32144859
Come on anon, stop being retarded.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Canadian_inventions
>modern camo
>clean nuclear power
>sonar
>pacemakers
>gas masks
>a shitload of robotics
>snowblower (fckin lol, of course)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Mexican_inventions_and_discoveries
>nachos
>kahlua
>Three Card Monte
CAN THESE EVEN BE CALLED INVENTIONS? Wtf Mexico, are you even trying?

California will never give into the US government!

State's rights!

>>32144813
The president can't overturn state laws you utter cunt.

>>32144813
Trump is just going to extend the wall around California.

>>32144996

State laws that are unconstitutional and violate the Bill of Rights can be, should be, and will be overturned.

>>32142917

All that's left is to glass it.

>>32143573
This. They allow CC, but it's up to the Sheriff's discretion.
And most Sheriffs won't issue unless you conveniently donate a large enough sum of money to their 're-election campaign' so pretty much only the rich movie stars can.

>>32142979
Yeah I think the Cuckfornians are in for a rude awakening when someone takes all this bullshit to the SC. Get fucked commies

>>32144996
Equal Protection Clause. Congress did it with the Civil Rights Act and could easily use it to fuck with California.

>>32143733
It's a pain in the ass to move into canada though. Honestly that's the limiting factor.. I'd move up there and help set things up for a conservative win, but I don't have the quid, and I can't guarantee my work would last because I specialize in rangeland management.

>>32142890
Washington DC tried to ban handguns and it was blocked by the supreme Court in 2008.

There is already a president, so Cali can't ban handguns

They can however make the selection super limited

>>32145115
Hi anon from california

>>32143699
New York is an incredibly cucked state.

None of you can stop progress.

California controls this country, and we will win in the end.

>Trump takes office in January
>Appoints pro-gun supreme court judges
>Appoints pro-gun AG
>House is red
>senate is red


They will just rule the laws as unconstitutional and strike them down. Have faith.

>>32142910
The Constitution says "arms", not "handguns", so California is technically right. The same way an asshole cop is right when they ticket you for +1 when everyone around you drives +10.

>>32145285
State's rights.

>>32145223
>how dare you besmirch my proud legacy of shilling and shitposting

>>32145306
State's rights can't supercede the fed, which is why libshits have gotten away with this horseshit for so long. As soon as the feds under Trump start bringing out the ban hammer you're going to see a lot of Cali butthurt.

>>32143703
Fuck that. So far, only democrats attracted by lower real estate prices move.

California is toxic, people tilt left the more the longer they stay there.

>>32145306
The second amendment has been applied to the states via McDonald. Banning AR15s and handguns should very easily be unconstitutional under the "common use" stipulation set in McDonald, it's just that no case has gotten before the SC that would challenge it.

>>32145251

CA can't even enforce the laws in its own borders. Every time I go to the range, I see more people with "eh fuck it" builds than legal builds. LEO have made it clear that they don't care about AWs or even SBRs or suppressors so long as A) it's not full auto, and B) you're not committing an actual big people crime with it.

>>32145300
You could try reading DC v. Heller again and see that this argument didn't work for DC and it won't work for California.

>>32145371
Pretty much this.

>>32142890
>California bans hand guns possibly by 2018
Did you mean: California gets cock slapped by the Supreme Court?

>>32145438
The Supreme Court can't do shit, California is the biggest and the best.

We own this country, we are the law.

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>>32145371

>>32145371
This.. I go to BLM land and a ton of people don't have bullet buttons or use magnets plus most people use standard capacity magazines

>>32142890
Do you work for Turner's?

>>32145223
Hey, stop stealing my name!

>>32145470
Is this a Rand Paul hit piece by some lefty propaganda site? Because it mostly speaks to the incompetence of the police officer, and by extension, the criminal justice system of California as a whole.

>>32145371
this desu

>>32145371
>LEO have made it clear that they don't care about AWs or even SBRs or suppressors

I really want this to be true. Anything to back this up besides personal experiences?

>>32145434
>>32145470
>>32145484
>>32145541

Assuming you guys are CA folk...

I've been wondering if LEO have moved to "don't give a shit" on account of the rapidly moving target that is CA gun laws. If it's onerous to keep up with as a firearm user, it's got to be a pain for LEOs too.

>>32144635
>>32143843
Australian here.
Lever action shotguns aren't gone. They're just banning the import of the 7 round tube version of the Adler and leaving us the 5 round version. Makes 0 sense but that's cucked governments for you.
There's still talk in government about repealing the ban, but I doubt it'll happen

>>32145590

You're setting the bar pretty high for supporting the notion of LEO *technically* not performing their official duties. What I mean is that you're not going to find unofficial

My stance comes from three sources, in descending order of personal importance:

1) A Sheriff telling me that he didn't care about anything so long as it wasn't FA.

2) The fact that I never see reports of or hear of anyone being charged with JUST the AW charge... it's always used as a tack-on charge to keep the shitters where they belong. I have actively looked for reports of people being charged with just AW violations, but it's also been awhile.

3) Friends and associates that have had similar conversations with LEO; it's not uncommon for Sheriffs to come out to an unofficial shooting spot to make sure it's not gangs. If not gang-y, chitchat, joke, and bullshit time.

Limitations: Yeah, it's all still anecdotal. Also, I live in Chico, so pretty far to the north. I imagine it's different in the deep south. I haven't talked to city police about their stances, although one retired one told me to take my bullet button off, for whatever that's worth. Finally, being non-compliant may be fine 99% of the time, but what about the 1% of the time where you rub the officer the wrong way or they're in a bad mood? Theoretically they don't give a fuck, but theoretically they could fuck your life up. I prefer to avoid the whole thing and just take my stuff to places where LEO don't show up for spot checks.

>>32145707
>What I mean is that you're not going to find unofficial

I derped.

What I mean is that you're not going to find unofficial policy posted on their websites.

>>32145596
Californian Expat, but yeah.

I'm about 90% sure the leo's stopped giving a shit on the majority of the superfluous stuff because it pretty much changes on a monthly basis. It doesn't help that no one actually gets a brief from CalDOJ on the specifics of the laws so it comes down to interpretation and discretion, and they're a littler scared.

No one wants to be "that guy" who arrests someone based off a wrong interpretation of the law, especially over trivial bullshit like mag caps or a bullet button, and then get's the department's ass reamed in court. At times it seems like the NRA and GOA have more or less abandoned california to the wolves, but they will on occasion go to bat for a gun owner who've been unlawfully arrested and had property siezed. I forget the case but IIRC it was guy who was in the process of moving and got more or less reamed by the state police in the north east, and the NRA brought in their lawyers for the case.

>>32145707
exactly this, it's like you never hear about someone being charged just under just 922r... actually has anyone even been charged with that along with other stuff ever?

>>32144986
does not apply to constitutional issues

>We aren't trying to ban your guns!

>>32144954
I live on the east coast and the chicks hear in NY are not wife material..
All they want is money and status and you will be a cuck.

>>32144954
>Metallic silhouette shooting
At least mexico got one thing right.

>>32145052
How?

We launch one lawsuit, it languishes for years, you spend money hand over fist and pray it gets to the SC while your enemies laugh at you -- for this costs them nothing. Meanwhile they pass more laws every year. They seem to have cracked the totalitarian code.

>>32145300
statist cuck detected

>>32145871
We need a constitutional amendment that makes knowingly passing unconstitutional laws grounds for treason charges.

>>32142890
You don't live in CA do you?
Wilson Combat renewed their thing, most companies don't until December.

This places sucks though, don't get me wrong.

>>32145707
That makes a lot of sense, thanks.


2) The fact that I never see reports of or hear of anyone being charged with JUST the AW charge

Yeah but would you? Not sure that would necessarily make the papers.

Is there a way to search state criminal databases by felony committed? That might be interesting.

>>32145411
>Implying he read it in the first place

>>32144986
There's plenty of case law showing that the constitution extends to the states.

>>32145737
>>32146104
The Constitution is racist. The people of California reject it!

>>32145995

I don't know if there is. This conversation did jog my memory though:

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/nov/12/dan-bilzerian-los-angeles-cops-took-guns-without-w/

Now he's rich, so that's a point in his favor. But it's the LAPD, who I would assume are the most likely to charge him. Not only did they not charge him, they just left the AWs there and took the handguns(probs not on the roster) but eventually returned them.

>>32146123
fucking BASED DAN

>>32142979
>>32143687
>>32143739
>>32145104
>>32145109
>>32145438
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGuhZvO1DKg

REAL AMERICAN POSTERS

>>32146123
That is bullshit. How did he not sue the fuck out of the department? That's completely unconstitutional seizure of property without due process.

>>32144687
It'll be fun when their already bankrupt sanctuary cities get defunded.

>>32146175
>implying the federal government has the power to defund cities

>>32144687
>muh states rights
like they ever gave a shit before now.

>>32145604
>no one NEEDS two extra shells in their tube!

I feel so sorry for you guys. How are bolt action shotguns under your laws? Are those okay?

>>32146123
The more I read the madder I got

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>>32146189

Ehhhhhhhh......that's actually been the case for cities that threatened to refuse syrian refugees that the cities would lose all federal funding they were receiving.

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>>32142890

All manufacturers have to do is renew every year.

I've emailed CZ and their customer service dude told me "we'll never add anything to the roster, but we don't plan on letting anything fall off."

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>california 2018

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOHMwo7wzGg

>>32142917
1/3 of us voted trump. We are a considerable force and we hate coast dwellers

>>32146257
Yeah as far as I know bolt action shotguns are ok.
A mate of mine just lodged his permit for one of those .303 to .410 conversion abominations

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>>32145604
Move to Canada, aussies! We love you guys! We got so much in common! Only the only dangerous wildlife here is fuggen bears. Practically nothing is poisonous!

>>32145861
Canadian east coast is VERY different from US east coast.
US east coasters are like Canadian Ontarians.
Canadian east coasters are like newfs. I married a newfie. She's great! Bit crazy but she's an amazing cook, plays the guitar and hunts rabbit.
I don't know if Americans have a version of these, but they're great people.
https://youtu.be/MHB32ll7Ce8

I guess they're kind of like a whole race of oceangoing rednecks.

>>32146867
Auslad here, if you guys get rid of Justin "if you kill your enemies they win" Tredeau then we can talk.

>>32145300
arms include handguns

also this is covered in DC v Heller.

Simply put kill the california government and everyone in the lib parts of the state

>>32146819
>you now realize more californians voted for Trump than there are total citizens in half of US states

>>32147738
Not half, but close

Still a drop in the water compared to the number that voted for Hillary

>>32145707

>>32145707

Hey anon, fellow chico person here. If you're still in the thread, can you give me a hint at where these secluded shooting areas are? I've been here all of my life but just recently got into shooting. I found some spots up 32 but they are on sierra Pacific land and I don't know if LEO care about that or not.

>>32142917
I am in Washington now and while it isn't as bad as Commiefornia it is still pretty fucking bad. I just hope trump's court strike this shit down so I can go back home because if not I have to go east the next state over to flee from these fucking lib cucks.

Sorry washington state bros. I at least vote Republican and I am trying to red pill my native washington room mates into being pro gun.

>>32146867
>implying moose are harmless
https://youtu.be/cxIJZmmYUTM

Stop lying leaf.

>>32142910
the 9th circuit already ruled that the rooster doesn't go against the constitution if an arm is still available to purchase. the whole reason they're trying to push smart guns because that'll be the states choice in firearms

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>>32145088
Just going to keep posting this.

>>32147788
California gerrymandering is the sacrifice necessary to save the country.

If all the new incoming hispanics didn't isolate themselves in liberal strongholds they wouldn't throw away their votes

>>32148036
>SP land

Thems the places. The deeper in(during off-season, ofc) the better.

>>32146123
I thought movie productions/industry were able to have any gun they want? Which is kind of funny since there is a lot of mental people in that industry.

>>32145466
Californian here
Get fucked beach bum we will drive you gender queers into the fucking sea

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>>32148450

You know what has to happen

>>32146312
Except whenever there is an update to the gun CA considers it a new model \, and it needs to be resubmitted. Last I know CA is still selling 3rd gen Glocks because they won't approve the 4th gen. This applies even for shit like different colors. And most gun companies are not going to continue to produce an old model alongside the updated stuff.

>>32142924

It was addressed in Heller v DC. Leftist states can play the "regulate out of existence" game all day long, but Scalia's opinion made it so their success is defacto unconstitutional. I see it as a good thing that California is going off the rails and victimizing gun owners; someone has to bear that cross. Without these unhinged lunatics going way over the line, we'd stop getting good case law.

Remember that pre-Heller the anti argument was that there was no individual right to bear arms; it was a popular belief that all arms could be banned, 2A was treated much like 10A is now. The best example I can think of that mirrors this is the "driving is a privilege" crowd. SCOTUS has already ruled that travel is a right and that popular means of utilizing a right cannot be banned, so clearly you have a right to use the highway to travel via automobile. However, the government does have a clear interest in public safety, and they're more than reasonable about licensing/enforcement. So we never get that case law, and dipshits can keep going around declaring that driving is a privilege.

> 3. The handgun ban and the trigger-lock requirement (as applied to self-defense) violate the Second Amendment . The District’s total ban on handgun possession in the home amounts to a prohibition on an entire class of “arms” that Americans overwhelmingly choose for the lawful purpose of self-defense. Under any of the standards of scrutiny the Court has applied to enumerated constitutional rights, this prohibition—in the place where the importance of the lawful defense of self, family, and property is most acute—would fail constitutional muster. Similarly, the requirement that any lawful firearm in the home be disassembled or bound by a trigger lock makes it impossible for citizens to use arms for the core lawful purpose of self-defense and is hence unconstitutional.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/07-290.ZS.html

>>32143573
>>32145088

Only about 8 counties are no-issue. The other 50 are shall-issue.

>>32146281
>Zero Punctuation pic
>post yfw Yahtzee moved to California just in time for President Trump

>>32155183
Yahtzee lives in the US now?

>>32154833
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>>32154607
this.

>>32142941
Gun companies that are worth a shit need to stop selling to LEO in California like Barrett

>>32143733
Is it going to be a exact copy of the 2A?
That would be based as fuck

>>32154833
>Shall-Issue

After a 6 month process that involves an interview of you and your neighbors, sure. Shit's dicked up here.

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The new Commiefornia laws are so fucked. Just remember that the shitlibs use CA. and NY. and testing grounds for new gun laws. Unless you resist the commies, these laws will spread to your state.

>Be kommiefornian
>want Taurus Raging Bull in .44 with 8.375 in barrel
>pay online and wait
>gun arrives and get a call from the store
>"btw the same gun with the 8.375 in barrel is not on the roster but the 6 inch one is and we are out of stock on that one"
I hope Jerry "the cuck" Brown dies from a stroke along with all the dumb cucks who made this roster

>>32156521
So you want Schwarzenegger to get a stroke?

>>32156521
I get why you are frustrated but they did save you from getting a shit revolver

>>32143733
That would be amazing.

>>32156521
Did you enjoy paying the restock fee?

>>32146378
ty for this

>>32156828
The raging bull line is decent, just a bit overpriced. For the same money you could likely find a used S&W 29.

>>32156828
Yea they're like buying a Toyota, but I instead got hooked up with a Ruger Super Redhawk in .454 and .45 LC, it was used but previous owner was FBI so it was in great condition

>>32158458
Nope I'm guessing the mistake was on their part. I got a Ruger Super Redhawk in .454 and .45 LC and 100 rounds of .45 LC

>>32145300
When are Leftists going to say the founding fathers intended "arms" as our fucking limbs, and they meant we could expose our arms and shoulders freely

It's getting to that point

>>32148450
Oregon is worse off than Washington. They have a democrat dominated legislature. Here in Washington Republicans control the Senate so gun control won't pass.

>>32142941
>then no guns can be bought

Merry Christmas from your uncle in Kentucky.

>>32143778
>CA doesn't recognize any out of state permits

We let you CA clowns drive in WA state. Let's put a stop to that.

>>32142890
i'm hoping this does happen so california can get legally raped by the supreme court bringing up DC vs Heller again.

>>32143573
if there are no handguns that meet their criteria then it's a defacto ban and could be easily argued in court as such.

>>32153508
Nah

Theres a TON of red-tape that you have to go through in getting weapons permissions for a set. Even in a MURRICAN state like FL.
The insurance and union jews make it their lifes goals to slow you down to make cool movies.

t. 1st assistant director on major films

>>32148036
if your a sacfag here is the sweet spot: county road 30, east of davis, up on the levee that runs with the amtrack/ i80, sweet local shooting spot never been bothered at, bumpfiring 30 rnd AR mags, whatever